Wonderful! Thank you. I agree with you about her compassion. The Eve Arnold estate is following her instructions to keep photography affordable, so they sell her prints/posters for ~£30. I have two framed, one of Marilyn and one from the Civil Rights era. So inspiring!
Thanks for the video, Alex. Very enlightening. I have never heard of Eve Arnold before, but I love the way she captures the humanity of her subjects and not the facade. Clearly a photographer that means a lot to you too👍👍👍
I'm from Arizona, USA. I've been discovering your videos lately. I'm enjoying how you open my mind to ways of capturing photos that I've never thought of before. It's amazing how preconceived ideas can block creativity. I had never heard of Eve Arnold and her awesome captures of Norma Jean. It's a real pleasure to look at the works of many different photographers.
Thanks for exposing me to yet another impactful photographer. I just looked up one of her photography books to learn more. I resonated with her desire for compassion towards the people in front of the lens.
Omg I love these, as a photography enthusiast that is interested in the history and not just making great images. These fulfill me so much and can't thank you enough for these videos. Plz plz keep them up.
So appreciative of this video. You have me pulling out my old Eve Arnold books and remembering how much I adore her. I know which doc I will be watching tonight.
Thank you for your excellent work. As a photographer of people I found this profoundly enlightening. I have heard of Eve Arnold but I had not seen that BBC doco. I loved it! And someone else mentioned this line, “it is the photographer, not the camera, that is the instrument.” So very, very true. We must connect with our subjects in order to get their truest essence. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your wonderful work and for sharing your knowledge. I am most grateful for your videos. I’ve learned so much. 🙏🙏🙏📸
Thank you for this beautiful tribute. And thank you for discussing Eve Arnold in a way that I’ve never heard before. It’s hit me like a lightning bolt! I’ve never been drawn to her until now! The way you understand her photography has lit a fire in me and I can’t wait to discover more! Thank you!
Thanks Alex for this new video and your work on this channel. Definitely pushes me to rediscover Eve Arnold body of work and her approach to photography
Passion is the word which best describes how you present any, and every, topic you upload. Thank you; from a dedicated consumer of all that you share. Namaste.
Wonderful stuff. I knew Arnold’s Marilyn pictures but great to have them put into the overall context of her life and work. Arnold is surely one of the greatest people photographers of the last century.
compassion and empathy....2 key words for any social doc photographer, your so on the mark.."your heart tells there's" Will watch the eve arnold doc now.. ..
just found your channel...thanks so much, enjoying it...watching all the vids and learning more about photogs I thought I knew. Watching your vids, learning more about the photographers and most importantly seeing the photos will inspire me to create more this coming Thai trip...thanks again.
New subscriber here. Thanks for this. I really enjoy dives into the work of photographers, especially ones I haven't heard of before (and I heard of many)
Well this is really the photography that must be teach, not about gear. It is about working with people, about vision. All by all photography is about anything you want, but is not about pixels. Great content
Wow, thank you so much for the introduction to Eve Arnold. Truly inspiring, we have a picture of Marilyn Monroe at home from Eve Arnold. I didn't realise it was taken from her until now. Now I also see why I originally liked it. It's interesting, Annie Leibowitz says in her master class that it is not the photographer's job to make the model feel comfortable. Depending on the goal of the photo, that may be true, but what becomes clear: The image always expresses the relationship of the photographer to the model.
Everyone is unique, the thing is unique too. When the thinker who is photographer from different angles to see the things, the world is completely different, so that is the reason why the world keeps changing and moving forward. Thank you for sharing the idea, really love your channel.
I need to study this woman's work. Never heard of her before this but it strikes a chord about how I like to take portraits, especially when she talks about someone lending their face it's our obligation to make them look as good as they can. Thank you for this video.
I always felt that Andre De Dienes caught the real Marilyn Monroe, she had rung him up late to come over, the shots he took were heartbreaking and full of despair, the real Marilyn. I believe they were the last shots done of her, this was a photographer she trusted!
Look up the work of both Jim Marshall and William Gedney. I just got a copy of Marshall's book on the Haight and saw some of Gedney's Eastern Kentucky photos. There's a lot of love in their work. Also, People who are comfortable in their own skin generally photograph better than people who are trying too hard-I live in Santa Fake, land of turquoise overload, Georgia O'Keefe imitators, and botox-, and perhaps, in the case of celebrities, one must develop the trust and respect necessary to find the human inside the public persona. Very inspiring presentation.
I appreciate your viewpoint about compassion...a very important quality in a human. I believe in my own heart that you can add Dorothea Lange, another compassionate photographer. Cheers from Victoria, British Columbia. PS I always believed that Eve captured the essence of a person better than most of her peers. She could see the soul of that individual.
What a photographer..! That portrait of the Queen, the Mongolian (?) girl with horse, the Marilyn portraits... wow. For me, so much more impressive than Leibowitz. She captures the soul, so hard in portraits.
I used to own Bert Stern's "The Last Sitting." I lost it in the divorce. I do remember the book was written only from Stern's point of view. He talks about how wounded he was when he saw what she did to the chromes he sent her for review and regretted not sending her contact sheets instead. She might have hated these photos but he was deeply wounded by someone damaging his work. He saw these as a personal attack. She was dead six weeks later and there was no way for him to find out why she defaced them.Should he have published them? I guess there are at least two arguments here. One side says he was documenting the event. They have value for the historic record they created together. The other point of view is, as she was the subject of the photos it was her only way to exercise some control of what people saw. Please do a bio of Bert Stern. He's an interesting character who created the notion of the playboy fashion photographer.
In an example of perfect synchronicity, right after watching this I went to a local discount book shop with a small but well curated photography section. I found "All About Eve," new for $20. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks for putting another great photographer into my "must find out more" brain, my next item to watch is the BBC documentary. Its fascinating how photographers are allowed to get know their subjects to enable them to capture the real person so we the general public can witness the true self.
FANTASIC . . . remember learning about her in 'History of Photography' when i studied in the mid 90's. Can you pleeease cover larger-than-life David Bailey too ?
Once again you introduced me to a photographer. This time one whose name and some photos I recognized and enjoyed. However, I really did not appreciate her. I can see the respect she had for her subjects; it is evident in the photos. I just don’t know how she got that into the photo. It is an amazing talent to be able to do that.
Certainly Eve is a great photographer. Thanks for your video. Definitely worth following for me as I am drawn to documentary photography. Better than Robert Frank? Not for me, but I am heavily inspired by Robert Frank. I am also inspired by others such as Mary Ellen Mark, Steve McCurry, Annie Liebovitz.
To me, the best photos of a person somehow illuminate the 'inner being' of that person. This takes trust between the person and the photographer that photographer will be patient, respectful, and observant but never malicious. The relationship can be brief or a life-long friendship but the trust has to be there. The trust means the 'photo shoot' is much more collaborative from start to finish. I can understand why celebrities cannot stand paparazzi and many news photographers who act like vultures picking over a carcass. There is no attempt to understand or respect the person only grab a photo for the next edition.
And if you treat the average man or woman with the same respect, you can get the same true image of a person. As a documentary photographer myself for 40+ years including a 10-year stint as a small weekly newspaper, I got to know local residents and they got to know me even before I took their photos. It is 10 years I will never forget. Today, I shoot mostly street and talk with my subjects after a photo and offer to send them the digital file for their own use. But I always treat the subject/s with respect.
BINGO!! at 5:00 minutes You explained how Eve wasn't aware of the rules of photography.... I think alot of new photographers catch on that there's rules and they try not to break them. Probably the only profession where on can break some rules (or all of them!!) and not get incarcerated over! Seriously though, I think being oblivious to the "rights and wrongs" sometimes is a good thing... I truly believe that squeezing between the two can set oneself towards thier own jonra style of the art.
Wow. Her take on Monroe's Burt Stern photoshoot is so different from what comes across in the documentary about Stern. Gives a much more gruesome perspective to the story behind the red X drawn on the pictures by Marilyn.
Hi I explore your channel about week ago. Your energy and the way you explain photography is amazing.I studying physics teacher and I into photography about 2 years and thats the channel i've looking for.(Can you look at Ara güler's photography in your channel too :))
I think it was on this channel that described a photographer who deliberately antagonised a royal couple to get a true couples portrait. Interesting how one can use different techniques to see the subject.
7:34 Best photo I have seen of Marilyn. Her natural beauty really comes out in it. Sad that some misused her. Some have often labeled her as the greates beauty, ever. Dont thought that of her as such. But I have seen the wrong pictures. I better understand now, after seen Eve Arnold pictures of her.
@Tbonyandsteak I read a story about Marilyn Monroe that I hope is true. If you search the Intarwebs there a few versions of it: "Marilyn Munroe was quietly shopping in a New York department store. The actress was at the height of her fame, and the journalist with her couldn’t understand why no one recognized her. ‘Because,’ was the reply, ‘I’m not being Marilyn. Watch what happens if I am.’ Having said that, she simply switched on her Marilyn persona and was soon being mobbed by fans. The journalist said it was like seeing a light bulb going on: the private Marilyn kept all her energy under wraps, while the public Marilyn let it shine into the world so that it attracted people like a beacon."
Thanks as always for watching.
Interested to know if you were familiar with Eve Arnolds photography before this video?
I wasn't but I so inspired by the warm hearted & candid feel of her work. Thanks for your content.
I wasn’t familiar with Eve. I’m very happy to have discovered her, thanks to you!
I was but only barely, this was a great introduction, thanks Alex.
Never heard of her.
I was not and I highly appreciate that you pointed her out.
“It is the photographer, not the camera, that is the instrument”. Profound
Always...a camera is an instrument for looking into the heart and mind of the photographer.
Sorry I can't be with you for the premier - I have to do the school run!
Wonderful! Thank you. I agree with you about her compassion. The Eve Arnold estate is following her instructions to keep photography affordable, so they sell her prints/posters for ~£30. I have two framed, one of Marilyn and one from the Civil Rights era. So inspiring!
Thanks for the video, Alex. Very enlightening. I have never heard of Eve Arnold before, but I love the way she captures the humanity of her subjects and not the facade. Clearly a photographer that means a lot to you too👍👍👍
I'm from Arizona, USA. I've been discovering your videos lately. I'm enjoying how you open my mind to ways of capturing photos that I've never thought of before. It's amazing how preconceived ideas can block creativity. I had never heard of Eve Arnold and her awesome captures of Norma Jean. It's a real pleasure to look at the works of many different photographers.
Thanks for exposing me to yet another impactful photographer. I just looked up one of her photography books to learn more. I resonated with her desire for compassion towards the people in front of the lens.
"All About Eve" is one of the greatest books of photography. I think I learned about her from your channel. Thanks for featuring her.
My pleasure!
Omg I love these, as a photography enthusiast that is interested in the history and not just making great images. These fulfill me so much and can't thank you enough for these videos. Plz plz keep them up.
So appreciative of this video. You have me pulling out my old Eve Arnold books and remembering how much I adore her. I know which doc I will be watching tonight.
Thoughtful and inspiring. Thank you for introducing us to Eve Arnold.
Thoughtful analysis of a great photographer and human being. I really enjoyed it and the message you convey, one of respect and compassion.
Thank you for your excellent work. As a photographer of people I found this profoundly enlightening. I have heard of Eve Arnold but I had not seen that BBC doco. I loved it! And someone else mentioned this line, “it is the photographer, not the camera, that is the instrument.” So very, very true. We must connect with our subjects in order to get their truest essence. Thank you, thank you, thank you for your wonderful work and for sharing your knowledge. I am most grateful for your videos. I’ve learned so much. 🙏🙏🙏📸
Loved it! Thanks for adding yet another photographer to my list of artists whose work i would like to see in print someday.
Thanks for teaching me about Eve Arnold. In a sense she reminds me of Vivian Maier. The humanity of her subjects shines through.
Thank you for this beautiful tribute. And thank you for discussing Eve Arnold in a way that I’ve never heard before. It’s hit me like a lightning bolt! I’ve never been drawn to her until now! The way you understand her photography has lit a fire in me and I can’t wait to discover more! Thank you!
True to form, your work is heartening and spot on. Proper job! Thank you for doing what you do how you do it. Kindly…
Photography is about TRUST. MM trusted Ms. Arnold. This video is excellent. Thanks
Thanks Alex for this new video and your work on this channel. Definitely pushes me to rediscover Eve Arnold body of work and her approach to photography
Awesome vídeo. I totally relate to what she says about caring about your subjects. Thanks for sharing.
I have heard of her. I haven't explored her work. That changes now. Thank you for the excellent video!
Beautiful storytelling.. Thank you! I'm going to watch that documentary. ❤️
Thank you so much for this excellent biography. Videos like this are reason I keep watching your channel since the very beginning.
Wonderful insights. Beautiful tribute. A well spent 12 minutes. Thanks!
Passion is the word which best describes how you present any, and every, topic you upload.
Thank you; from a dedicated consumer of all that you share. Namaste.
Unexpectedly touching.
thank you for introducing her work; I didn't know Eve Arnold before!
So touching and real. Thanks for this episode.
Wonderful stuff. I knew Arnold’s Marilyn pictures but great to have them put into the overall context of her life and work. Arnold is surely one of the greatest people photographers of the last century.
Enjoyed. Have heard of Eve. Gave you a thumbs up. Looking forward to the next film
Brilliant content, this one vid has totally inspired me and introduced me to the work of Eve Arnold. Thankyou
That was lovely! thank-you!
compassion and empathy....2 key words for any social doc photographer, your so on the mark.."your heart tells there's" Will watch the eve arnold doc now..
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For most people being photographed is embarrassing therefore my secret is distance for natural behavior so at least 135 mm bud better 200 mm
A very worthwhile video. Thanks for the insightful commentary.
Thanks for putting this together
What a gift you have! Thank you! The better we all see the better the world can be!
Another excellent video - keep them coming!
just found your channel...thanks so much, enjoying it...watching all the vids and learning more about photogs I thought I knew. Watching your vids, learning more about the photographers and most importantly seeing the photos will inspire me to create more this coming Thai trip...thanks again.
New subscriber here.
Thanks for this. I really enjoy dives into the work of photographers, especially ones I haven't heard of before (and I heard of many)
Well this is really the photography that must be teach, not about gear. It is about working with people, about vision. All by all photography is about anything you want, but is not about pixels. Great content
Thank you for this tremendous video.
Thank you Alex. Another excellent video. Nobody does it better than you.
Thank you once again. Enjoyed every moment. 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I learn so much from you with each video. Thank you!
This is the type of videos I love the most… thank you
It's a celabration to watch Your videos. Thanks a lot.
What a fascinating episode. Nice work.
Wow... that reaction, when showing her pictures... that would have hurt.
Great pictures!
Wow, thank you so much for the introduction to Eve Arnold. Truly inspiring, we have a picture of Marilyn Monroe at home from Eve Arnold. I didn't realise it was taken from her until now. Now I also see why I originally liked it.
It's interesting, Annie Leibowitz says in her master class that it is not the photographer's job to make the model feel comfortable. Depending on the goal of the photo, that may be true, but what becomes clear: The image always expresses the relationship of the photographer to the model.
Your videos are just wonderful. You speak so well
Thank you for this!
Fabulous photos & a lovely lady. I do love the playing pool & taxi/street style shot around the 5.15+ mark.
Excellent video! No, I had not heard of Eve Arnolds (but have probably seen some of her photos).
Thank you, such strong photos!
Everyone is unique, the thing is unique too. When the thinker who is photographer from different angles to see the things, the world is completely different, so that is the reason why the world keeps changing and moving forward. Thank you for sharing the idea, really love your channel.
I need to study this woman's work. Never heard of her before this but it strikes a chord about how I like to take portraits, especially when she talks about someone lending their face it's our obligation to make them look as good as they can. Thank you for this video.
Excellent video. Great job. I never knew.
Great video. Thank you.
Thank you a superb subject to explore.
I always felt that Andre De Dienes caught the real Marilyn Monroe, she had rung him up late to come over, the shots he took were heartbreaking and full of despair, the real Marilyn. I believe they were the last shots done of her, this was a photographer she trusted!
Look up the work of both Jim Marshall and William Gedney. I just got a copy of Marshall's book on the Haight and saw some of Gedney's Eastern Kentucky photos. There's a lot of love in their work. Also, People who are comfortable in their own skin generally photograph better than people who are trying too hard-I live in Santa Fake, land of turquoise overload, Georgia O'Keefe imitators, and botox-, and perhaps, in the case of celebrities, one must develop the trust and respect necessary to find the human inside the public persona. Very inspiring presentation.
Really good. Thank you🌟
vivian maier ! as a street photographer myself I see her talent. Loving this content!
thank you, simply excellent.
Thankyou! Wonderful commentary!
Thanks for watching
I appreciate your viewpoint about compassion...a very important quality in a human. I believe in my own heart that you can add Dorothea Lange, another compassionate photographer. Cheers from Victoria, British Columbia.
PS I always believed that Eve captured the essence of a person better than most of her peers. She could see the soul of that individual.
Respect for who you photograph shows you _
respect yourself & your work. Thank you for this video. I too am trying to find the purpose.
Outstanding!
What a photographer..! That portrait of the Queen, the Mongolian (?) girl with horse, the Marilyn portraits... wow. For me, so much more impressive than Leibowitz. She captures the soul, so hard in portraits.
Great timing I just saw the Misfits for the first time a week ago.
I used to own Bert Stern's "The Last Sitting." I lost it in the divorce. I do remember the book was written only from Stern's point of view. He talks about how wounded he was when he saw what she did to the chromes he sent her for review and regretted not sending her contact sheets instead. She might have hated these photos but he was deeply wounded by someone damaging his work. He saw these as a personal attack. She was dead six weeks later and there was no way for him to find out why she defaced them.Should he have published them? I guess there are at least two arguments here. One side says he was documenting the event. They have value for the historic record they created together. The other point of view is, as she was the subject of the photos it was her only way to exercise some control of what people saw. Please do a bio of Bert Stern. He's an interesting character who created the notion of the playboy fashion photographer.
Interesting, thank you very much.
Love your videos
In an example of perfect synchronicity, right after watching this I went to a local discount book shop with a small but well curated photography section. I found "All About Eve," new for $20. Thanks for the inspiration.
Thanks for putting another great photographer into my "must find out more" brain, my next item to watch is the BBC documentary. Its fascinating how photographers are allowed to get know their subjects to enable them to capture the real person so we the general public can witness the true self.
Unique analysis of eve arnold. I was not familiar with her and her work. Thank you
Thank you. 👍📷😎
Pure education!!!!!! 💎💎💎💎
I found "In America" as a second hand book, published in the early eighties. Her photographs are truthful. A breath of fresh air.
Thanks, yet again.
Thanks as always, Alex. The ending saddens me, though. It's a shame that some photographers lack the ethics of Eve Arnold, never mind her sensibility.
Great video. Just great. Next stop(s) Elliot Erwitt and Phillipe Halsman (my 2 favourites so it's selfish!)
FANTASIC . . . remember learning about her in 'History of Photography' when i studied in the mid 90's.
Can you pleeease cover larger-than-life David Bailey too ?
Once again you introduced me to a photographer. This time one whose name and some photos I recognized and enjoyed. However, I really did not appreciate her. I can see the respect she had for her subjects; it is evident in the photos. I just don’t know how she got that into the photo. It is an amazing talent to be able to do that.
gorgeous lines!
Amazing unfashionable thoughts man…. like it a lot
Unfortunately the video is not available on CZcams regarding the BBC documentary on Eve Arnold/Marilyn Monroe.
You're best yet! And that's saying a lot.
Certainly Eve is a great photographer. Thanks for your video. Definitely worth following for me as I am drawn to documentary photography. Better than Robert Frank? Not for me, but I am heavily inspired by Robert Frank. I am also inspired by others such as Mary Ellen Mark, Steve McCurry, Annie Liebovitz.
To me, the best photos of a person somehow illuminate the 'inner being' of that person. This takes trust between the person and the photographer that photographer will be patient, respectful, and observant but never malicious. The relationship can be brief or a life-long friendship but the trust has to be there. The trust means the 'photo shoot' is much more collaborative from start to finish.
I can understand why celebrities cannot stand paparazzi and many news photographers who act like vultures picking over a carcass. There is no attempt to understand or respect the person only grab a photo for the next edition.
At the start you said "twenty twenty twelve" 😅 loved the video
And if you treat the average man or woman with the same respect, you can get the same true image of a person. As a documentary photographer myself for 40+ years including a 10-year stint as a small weekly newspaper, I got to know local residents and they got to know me even before I took their photos. It is 10 years I will never forget. Today, I shoot mostly street and talk with my subjects after a photo and offer to send them the digital file for their own use. But I always treat the subject/s with respect.
Nice pictures
BINGO!! at 5:00 minutes You explained how Eve wasn't aware of the rules of photography.... I think alot of new photographers catch on that there's rules and they try not to break them. Probably the only profession where on can break some rules (or all of them!!) and not get incarcerated over!
Seriously though, I think being oblivious to the "rights and wrongs" sometimes is a good thing... I truly believe that squeezing between the two can set oneself towards thier own jonra style of the art.
Wow. Her take on Monroe's Burt Stern photoshoot is so different from what comes across in the documentary about Stern. Gives a much more gruesome perspective to the story behind the red X drawn on the pictures by Marilyn.
I am ashamed I did not know Eve Arnold. Thank you so much for opening my eyes. Wonderful and very poignant portrait.
I just took a step to make up for my lack of knowledge by ordering Eve Arnold: Magnum Legacy. Thanks again, Alex.
Stunning! Meow 🐈⬛!
Hi I explore your channel about week ago. Your energy and the way you explain photography is amazing.I studying physics teacher and I into photography about 2 years and thats the channel i've looking for.(Can you look at Ara güler's photography in your channel too :))
I think it was on this channel that described a photographer who deliberately antagonised a royal couple to get a true couples portrait. Interesting how one can use different techniques to see the subject.
7:34 Best photo I have seen of Marilyn. Her natural beauty really comes out in it. Sad that some misused her.
Some have often labeled her as the greates beauty, ever. Dont thought that of her as such. But I have seen the wrong pictures.
I better understand now, after seen Eve Arnold pictures of her.
@Tbonyandsteak I read a story about Marilyn Monroe that I hope is true. If you search the Intarwebs there a few versions of it:
"Marilyn Munroe was quietly shopping in a New York department store. The actress was at the height of her fame, and the journalist with her couldn’t understand why no one recognized her. ‘Because,’ was the reply, ‘I’m not being Marilyn. Watch what happens if I am.’ Having said that, she simply switched on her Marilyn persona and was soon being mobbed by fans. The journalist said it was like seeing a light bulb going on: the private Marilyn kept all her energy under wraps, while the public Marilyn let it shine into the world so that it attracted people like a beacon."
@@veivoli Yeah I bet she could do that. Thx for the story.