Is a Kite Fleet OP?! - Starsector

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2022
  • They all said it was crazy, they said only a FOOL would try... They said it couldn't be done... Well we will show them! The KITE! The smallest and most brutal of ships; we show how it can overpower and dominate ALL other foes on the battle field! It is cheap, it is fast and boy is it deadly.
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Komentáře • 158

  • @PapaCheddar
    @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +29

    I hope you cats enjoy our kite "domination"
    So little, so cute, so fierce.
    Love you bye!

  • @ratzfatz6880
    @ratzfatz6880 Před rokem +195

    The unarmed Kite is rather interessting because you can slap an 'Operations Center' on it. +250% Command point generation for only 2 DP is awesome.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +42

      Well, well, well. Meow that's a sneaky little maneuver right there. Doesn't that need to be the players ship though?
      If you more prefer giving tactical commands and not so much piloting i can see some solid merit.
      If it can be on an AI ship then I'm about to add one to my fleet 😂

    • @topleybird2443
      @topleybird2443 Před rokem +42

      Not just that, if the battle ends up completely backfiring on you, you can run away very quickly with your tiny flagship.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +22

      True that, post it up at the border and just flee. Sounds very viable.

    • @ratzfatz6880
      @ratzfatz6880 Před rokem +30

      @@PapaCheddar Unfortunately you have to be in the ship with the Operations Center to use its effect. Given the fact that my own flying skills with smaller ships are nearly the same as a lobotomized brick I often use the autopilot or far bigger ships.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +4

      Haha fair enough 😂 in that case it sounds like a perfect solution.

  • @EveryTimeV2
    @EveryTimeV2 Před rokem +59

    When I saw that Kites had 2 missile slots and you could give them salamanders, I knew that someone, somewhere, was going to abuse that.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +5

      The zerg was always coming for us. It was only a matter of time.

    • @lordfuzzle9282
      @lordfuzzle9282 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Fun fact the ai loves to do that to its extra fun when your a safety override CQC build and you spend the whole battle flamed out.

  • @Justacheese
    @Justacheese Před rokem +97

    1:57 I like to imagine that all the crew you left behind at the station had a grand old time playing card games like poker and go fish with the Alpha A.I core you left at the station.
    And everyone had a good laugh at the gamma core when it tried to use complex math solutions to win a game of go fish, because it wasn't built to understand the concept of "Luck" :P

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +22

      🤣 that's a much happier ending than the probable bleak reality...
      A.I. core put those cats to work! No rest in the Persean Sector

    • @Justacheese
      @Justacheese Před rokem +8

      @@PapaCheddar Well you see.. I typed that out and came up with that whole situation before I watched the rest of the vid. So I didn't know what your poor kite fleet was heading into. Now that I know how the final assault against the station went. Id say the crew you dropped off at the station would be the lucky ones who had to pick up the pieces.
      After they learned that Captain Cheddar went and tried to ram a space station with a kite.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +3

      Definitely the lucky ones. Rumor has it that after they got the news they went on a kite destruction spree across the galaxy. They say it still continues to this day.
      When in doubt, ram it out? Lol

  • @wrathofainz
    @wrathofainz Před 9 měsíci +14

    "Before you can pilot a destroyer you must first learn to fly a kite."
    For several minutes around 16:30 I was like "command your goddamn fleet."
    They won't swarm unless you tell them to, instead they'll spread out and get picked off.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 9 měsíci +4

      Haha 😂 fair. I could have definitely done better. Getting close to that station was a death sentence.

    • @BobfromSydney
      @BobfromSydney Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@PapaCheddar Yep, whenever I attack a station with a fleet, I always make rally points far out from the sides of the station which allows my fleet to divide into two groups and fight the escort fleet first. After I kill all the escorting ships, I then order my fleet in to destroy the station. It helps that by then, the fleet is in perfect position to surround the station from every side.

  • @comeslammer9455
    @comeslammer9455 Před rokem +55

    This is also known as the 120 reapers or 240 hammer torpedo build

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +7

      😂 nice haha. Should have increased fleet size and really went to town

  • @Impericalevidence
    @Impericalevidence Před rokem +27

    I was literally facepalming when you bought the s class kite... then you showed the clip! lol

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +2

      😅 mistakes were made. I got carried away in kite purchasing spam lol

  • @BobfromSydney
    @BobfromSydney Před 3 měsíci +2

    It's so funny hearing you use the same voice as the guy who walks around neighbourhoods petting cats while you are going around picking up Kites.
    Btw I am actually a big fan of Kite (A)s in early game because of the additional OPs. Kite's with expanded missile racks are nice at distracting larger ships but also great at taking down escaping ships in pursuits. Additionally, they cost negligible supplies to either field or recover.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Kites can do work haha. Late/mid game tho...
      And bubba i am that guy walking around petting cats 😎

  • @benb1422
    @benb1422 Před rokem +10

    this works well sure. but wolf frigates are WAY better, especially with the perk that makes deployment cost 20% cheaper. not only do they have strong shields but also teleport away from the missiles that "could" kill them.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +3

      Wolf's would be far more effective 😅 probably any other ship would be

    • @daanstrik4293
      @daanstrik4293 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I’m still not sure if the “wolfpack tactics” skill was names after the wolf class corvette. Or if its the other way around

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 8 měsíci

      Either way they have a symbiotic relationship haha

  • @Marianojoey
    @Marianojoey Před 11 měsíci +3

    Against small fleets and d-modded ships your kite swarm proved to have some bite, but there was no chance for them to fight the station, even if it was alone. Kites don't have enough punch to take the shields, much less the armor of the station (which by the way, was a level 3 midline station, that means enough shields and armor to give problems to a fleet of destroyers), and the station can (as proven) one-shot them 1 every 5 seconds. That, and the CR timer for the kites is ridiculously low (it's the most basic military grade frigate, almost an oversized fighter). They couldn't be in the fight long enough to do something against that station. :)

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 11 měsíci +2

      Very true 😅. It was pretty fun to try though! I tried again in another video with 200 kites... It went about as you'd expect lol

  • @bronzelizardx
    @bronzelizardx Před rokem +16

    The hive of kites has been released

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +2

      There isn't a large enough warning beacon in the galaxy to warn others of our presence!!!

    • @kenis555derp6
      @kenis555derp6 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar the whole galaxy is a warning beacon at that point.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      😂 no where is safe!!! Time to find a new sector boys, the kites have taken over.

  • @allocus9542
    @allocus9542 Před rokem +12

    Great video I hope to see a lot more starsector from you. Keep up the good work

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Thank you 😁 i really appreciate that!
      I've got a few more starsector videos in the works

  • @Voitan
    @Voitan Před rokem +9

    Your flag should be a kite, no not the ship, the little paper thingy that floats on wind.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Call the modders, we got a new job for em 🤪

  • @Jebu911
    @Jebu911 Před 11 měsíci +4

    30 wolf frigates with the right abilities can actually defeat most enemys.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 11 měsíci +1

      I could see that. Hell they were named for the wolf tactics 😂

  • @michalo.gregorius1313
    @michalo.gregorius1313 Před rokem +4

    Hey mate, I wanted to share the knowledge that you can quickly transfer items from your inventory holding the Alt button while simply passing over the cargo with your mouse. Cheers!

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +2

      I appreciate the tip! I've tried that multiple times but it doesn't work lol. Figured it musta been from a mod or something.

  • @Kisanorame
    @Kisanorame Před rokem +5

    I wanna see it with drone tenders instead lol, also I love using a bunch of wolf frigates with all suppression guns and then torpedoes to screen for my capital ships which makes for a pretty formidable frontline

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      All drone tenders is on my list 😂 the swarm of bees! It'll be a little while until I can make i though unfortunately.
      Wolf's are pretty sweet. A strong starter though midgame ship. Even late game lioe you're saying it can work for sure.

    • @kenis555derp6
      @kenis555derp6 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar the swarm of bees with their queens, buzz buzz you pirate scum!

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Got them hopped up on royal jelly and ready to go!

  • @uileam161
    @uileam161 Před 6 měsíci +1

    “Tell these [mild expletive deleted] to go fly a kite.”
    😂

  • @vonkug
    @vonkug Před rokem +6

    Ya might have gotten away with 100% torpedos

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      While I was editing it i thought that maybe i should have gone full reapers 😂
      Take advantage of that flanking speed lol

  • @isaacgraff8288
    @isaacgraff8288 Před rokem +2

    I actually attempted something like this with Medusas. It was actually fairly effective, up to a point. And that is with me playing and I struggle with combat.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      I hear that haha. I'm definitely not the best pilot myself. I want to try it with a few other ship types just to see what would happen lol.

  • @mathdarven5634
    @mathdarven5634 Před rokem +13

    I prefer the mule. A full fleet of Mule (A). With makeshift fighter bays. It just works. Somehow.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +4

      Mules a solid ship. Its underrated for sure. And, AND! It looks cool 😎

  • @tiberius23
    @tiberius23 Před rokem +1

    haha, first time in a while I've heard someone use "Hoser". love it! Thanks!

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      It's a classic insult haha. Not used nearly enough!

    • @tiberius23
      @tiberius23 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar true story, and glad to see some starsectgor content. Cheers!

  • @momom6197
    @momom6197 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Next step: a full fleet of Mudskipper Mk.2 armed with Gauss cannons! Show Karra who's the biggest fly!

  • @ranadaine
    @ranadaine Před rokem +5

    Ahh, death from a thousand kites

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Such a brutal way to go... And then your friends will all make fun of you for losing to kites 😅 it's just a bad way to go

  • @isopod_gaming-real-
    @isopod_gaming-real- Před rokem +4

    Kite (s) meta

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Can try just ramming into enemy ships over and over 😂

  • @mattparker9726
    @mattparker9726 Před rokem +1

    yeah I did this challenge, it was boring to me, cause my kites even with fighter clamps couldn't catch a lot of the other ships. And, after the initial alpha strike from said fighters, well *THEY'RE KITES*

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      😂 they are kites haha. Only so much they can accomplish really

  • @TheArchitect-yy9pl
    @TheArchitect-yy9pl Před 5 měsíci +2

    "Another little gorgeous kite boy here as well nm nm nm nm nm nm"
    the forbidden sentence

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 5 měsíci +1

      We were all thinking it! I just said it out loud 😅

  • @fredericklib4368
    @fredericklib4368 Před rokem +3

    NOT THE BEES, uuh i mean NOT THE KITES AAAAAAH :P

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      All fear the mighty swarm!!! Mwahahaha!
      Though unlike bees we don't die after we sting! ...well sometimes 😂

  • @zeparthe16thspiritofarsgoe15

    Damn, I am new to Starsector and I am finding a way to decimate enemy fleets with EZ. And when I see you leading the horde of kites like that my reaction is like: WHAT!? lol.
    This is one of the best videos of Starsector in history!
    I will definitely sub this channel right now! 🤣👍

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      If you do the kites just throw reapers or hammerheads on each of them 😂 may have gone a little better lol.
      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video 😀

  • @lucasgabrielgonsalves9626

    Hey, what is your config?
    It seems I can't run Starsector that well...
    I bought a 3060 TI, but no luck, I have constant FPS drops ;-;

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +2

      Gpu radeon rx 5700
      Cpu ryzen 7 3700x 8 core
      32gb 3000mhz ddr4 ram
      Vram radeon rx 5700
      Thats weire, shouldn't take much to run it. Unless you got a ton of mods lol. Try searching reddit, you can make sure you're allocating enough ram to the game. People have a lot of tips to make it work better. Updating java too i think was one. Reddit should hopefully help.

  • @randomnoobfan2542
    @randomnoobfan2542 Před rokem +1

    Powering up with dragonballs, he says. Damn, that flashbang hurt my eyes.

  • @nathanjensen3928
    @nathanjensen3928 Před rokem +2

    The unarmed kite is good for improvised flight decks

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Ooo thats a good idea. Only other thing cats were saying was command center or whatever its called. For flag ship.

  • @BLITZ1809
    @BLITZ1809 Před rokem +1

    love your video👍

  • @squirrellordsgaming2772
    @squirrellordsgaming2772 Před rokem +1

    Got to wipe out the biggest and scary ships with this swarm. Hilarious.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Glad you enjoyed it! I tried taking the dragon reborn with 200 kites and... Well... It was rough lol

  • @gustavolemos5913
    @gustavolemos5913 Před rokem +1

    wow. this is SO OP!

  • @richardp2267
    @richardp2267 Před rokem +1

    I know I focused on that monitor hoping you would use that as the 1 tank.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Probably would have gone better 😅. But then it wouldn't be a pure kite fleet!

  • @tapurate638
    @tapurate638 Před rokem +3

    S in Kite(S) stands for SUCK

  • @CatMandiano
    @CatMandiano Před rokem +2

    More d-mods = more kites

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Could increase DP max and fleet size. Really make a swarm 😂 haha

  • @radio5637
    @radio5637 Před rokem +2

    Bees, they sting and then die . That's what the kites are

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Perfect single use reaper delivery system 😂

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons Před rokem +2

    Changing the settings to make fleet caps 100-200 makes your pc sweat harder than a old bishop in a pre-school...

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Imagine changing it to 1000 and doing a bigger max fleet size. That old bishop would pass out with a nose bleed.
      I'm going to try one of these days haha

    • @Sherudons
      @Sherudons Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar It can be done but the AI is the only one who can sustain fleet sizes past 300 without changing the consumption rates too, and yes the AI does max out fleets making fights last a long ass time.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Makes sense. I want to eventually try and change some stuff so that myself and ai are forced to only use smaller ships. Take capitals out of the equation lol. Would be fast paced and could be fun. Just don't rightly know how station fights would go lol

    • @Sherudons
      @Sherudons Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar You can win those fairly easy, the stations themselves don't spawn a billion defence ships just the patrols, you take losses but the ships tend to dodge most of the damage, the only real issue is deploying so many ships in such a small area makes them all ram each other and do almost as much damage of not more to each other than getting shot does.
      I think there are some mods that make some small ships no longer have a collision box, so you can do flood tactics, I can't remember it off my head but I vaguely remember some that let you pilot gundams or fighters too instead of a ship.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Oh that's cool. Kinda gives you the Z axis of space lol. Til they're all on top of each other and a few reapers come flying at the blob 😂

  • @jbskyfall9271
    @jbskyfall9271 Před rokem +1

    Take the dp fleet mod, take 30 kites, and 20 tempest and a cruiser or 2, and you have the most meta fleet in the game.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Tempest can mess some cats up for sure 😂

    • @jbskyfall9271
      @jbskyfall9271 Před rokem +1

      Hell yeah brother, and you give the captains energy specialist, and battle ships are a joke.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      I like that haha. May need to give it a shot. Or atleast something similar

  • @frankyshtein9535
    @frankyshtein9535 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Kite power!

  • @FunkThompson
    @FunkThompson Před rokem +2

    You spent so much time wondering if you could, you never stopped to consider if you should... ;)

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      😂 the age old folly of men... Definitely shouldn't have lol

  • @tedarcher9120
    @tedarcher9120 Před rokem +2

    *Kite-man, hell-yeah!*

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Fear the swarm!

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar you should try brawler swarm, op as heck. Also, Kite-man is an official Batman villain

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      That'd be a fun one. I could see it smashing lol.
      Kite-man, the most dangerous villian on a windy day. Kind of a push over though with a calm weather pattern

    • @tedarcher9120
      @tedarcher9120 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar i mean, there are comics about him, pretty good ones too

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      I just looked it up 😂 I thought you were joking lol. Nice

  • @andyandarius
    @andyandarius Před 9 měsíci +1

    There are way too many kites as it is. I would have left 25 combat ones and leave 5 of the S model with extra cargo space, etc. 😂

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 9 měsíci

      lol fair, extra cargo space on a kite is 1 more unit hahaha

  • @leerman22
    @leerman22 Před měsícem +1

    "I AM KITE MAN!"

  • @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen
    @AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen Před rokem +1

    👏😁

  • @edsw1446
    @edsw1446 Před rokem +1

    Try this with Frontier Drone Herders*
    *Edit: I meant to say Shepherd class frigates

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Those from a mod?

    • @edsw1446
      @edsw1446 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar Sorry, I meant Shepherd class frigates

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Oh gotcha lol. That would be a fun one. Unleashing a real swarm 😂

  • @ulisesvidela9717
    @ulisesvidela9717 Před rokem +1

    You should try more kites the next time

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Haha could. Just a quick game file edit and i could have waaaay too many kites 😂. More reapers too... Much much more reapers...

    • @ulisesvidela9717
      @ulisesvidela9717 Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar then, destroy the hegemony's capital world

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      That sounds like a good challenge lol. I'd need ALOT of kites 😂

  • @Lunar137
    @Lunar137 Před rokem +1

    Ok this.
    But with Lashers!

  • @starwarrior125
    @starwarrior125 Před rokem +1

    I just tried this but used Minibreves from the UAF mod instead. Results were even better than I could have hoped for.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      I wonder why 😂 sounds fun though lol

    • @XUndergroundRap
      @XUndergroundRap Před 11 měsíci +1

      Minibrevs are so gamebreaking. UaF is just stupid

    • @cainprescott4937
      @cainprescott4937 Před 11 měsíci +1

      See, it could be worse, because Minibreves are the smaller version of Semibreves, but the big funny OP UAF missile being called a "Semi"breve implies the eventual existence of a much larger, much more overpowered... *Breve.*

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 11 měsíci

      The universe isn't ready for the megabreve...

  • @JuliusDofarios
    @JuliusDofarios Před 9 měsíci +1

    Luddic Path Brawlers are better, back then and now.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před 9 měsíci

      Luddic path everything is better haha. The power of Ludd is immeasurable

  • @Shaso1000
    @Shaso1000 Před 11 měsíci

    Why do they call it a "soap opera"? I've never seen anyone clean anything on those shows.

  • @vincefeld6442
    @vincefeld6442 Před 2 měsíci

    damn u didn't even tryhard properly. that station+its congregation can be easily taken down with 30 kites.
    1 kite can carry 12 hammers if officer with missile skill and 8 without it

  • @_Aidelweiss_
    @_Aidelweiss_ Před rokem

    how did you do this 1:55

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      Store the items?
      Around the galaxy you can find abandoned stations and store goods/ships in there. Works the same as storage on a planet but its free.

    • @_Aidelweiss_
      @_Aidelweiss_ Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar no no, i meant how did you drop at the exact number you need in one click ? With no scrolling whatsoever ?

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Oh its ctrl + click. It will drop off the exact amount needed to not be overloaded.
      Also when buying things you can ctrl + click to fill up without going over.

  • @pizzamechman8380
    @pizzamechman8380 Před rokem +1

    Challenge the dragon reborn

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      That's from a mod right?
      Could be a fun challenge 😂 well not so much a challenge as it would be an @$$ handing lol

    • @chintoki
      @chintoki Před rokem +1

      @@PapaCheddar It's from the Star Federation mod.

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      Nice, thank you!

  • @123HunterHead
    @123HunterHead Před rokem +1

    brawler gunships work better

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem

      Very true! Picked kites because its funnier aha

  • @nicerisu
    @nicerisu Před rokem +1

    Why do you sound like impersonating Spiff. Okay video tho

    • @PapaCheddar
      @PapaCheddar  Před rokem +1

      Didn't know that I was 😂 I can try a British accent... Feel like my accents are pretty on point lol