The Bizarre Answer To Aim Assist
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- čas přidán 24. 08. 2023
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Yeaahh will buy some now, if the price is right 😌
When US shipping happens ill ship some. 20$ AUD extra for shipping is crazy at the moment.
You still whining about aim assistance please 😅
there any way I can invest in your business?
bought it
I just watched an ad
Was it worth
I just watched an ad too
a very cool add tho
For a few bits of rubber coating $25 absolute joke
Even if I don’t buy what he’s selling it’s still nice to just see informative content like he’s saying shit from a professional perspective who deals video games idk I just feel like that’s stuff I’d like to take into whatever I play with whether it be console keyboard or weird little rubber thingies
Fantastic.
Dont forget to send them to reviewers
And you are going to need a lot more stock I suspect...
Thanks! I've got some more materials on the way :)
If you have a 3d printer, then you can print them yourself.
@@awsome14619 It'd probably be easier to 3d print the parts to make molds and pour the silicone himself to make the actual products. Then you can use the same 3d printed parts to make multiple mold sheets and scale up indefinitely with little overhead. Silicone is very easy to mass produce with with proper molds unless the silicone he's using requires a heat treatment, which can be done but adds another step. You never want to sell a 3d printed part, you use it to make a perfect part for molds so people see your product as a manufactured part and not something they can 3d print at home.
@@StruthGamingthis seem something that dave2d would love to review! And you woukd get some really interesting leverage if he does it
Bro you crazy, $17 for these and then $14 shipping, that's laughable.
As a palm grip gamer, with a palm-friendly mouse, gravity does most of the work for me. However I can sympathise with Claw grippers and this seems like a really fantastic idea to take some of the strain off that many users might not even realise is occurring. Nice work. :)
Ha, my hands are so big that if I palm grip my fingers will hang off the front of my g502 and rub on the table. Claw gang.
I've never found a palm-grip mouse that really _fit_ for me.
The Mionix Naos 7000 was _really_ close (I mean, with grip tape applied, because the lack of texture on it was terrible), but the forward/back buttons were just way too far forward for where my thumb falls.
I'd hoped the rerelease "pro" version would have fixed that, but unfortunately it was strictly internal components changed, and the overall shape was exactly the same.
@chonkychookie6949 i prefer palm but i have huge hands so i ran into that issue alot. i feel the razer basilisk works really nively for me though, super palm friendly
What mouse do you use?
when u play apex legends u wanna be fast at aiming, palm gripping wont do it if the mouse isn't very light
Fcuk yeah dude. These have massive potential to go worldwide. Make sure you get the patent on the concept.
You don't want Razer jumping in and mass producing before you have a chance to sell them the idea.
Good luck getting a patent on a piece of rubber. 😅
@@Neomadra He can absolutely patent this design.
@@CamelSmokes23 not the concept, i've already made these lol. you can 3d print them in 2 minutes. He's not going to get a patent on triangle prisms.
@@thenry3600 on a mouse yeah he can
This is very cool and innovative!
Love how you’re actively trying to learn more about aiming mechanics and how to keep improving.
Ive been doing exactly this for a year using layers of BT.L grip tape to provide angled contact points. I 100% agree that this is much better than the standard way mice are used at the moment. Great idea!
For whatever reason, I tried the grip tape, did not like it, had more luck holding onto the mouse without em. But that could be my personal preference.
Congratulations mate!!
Keep up the awesome work!
Thanks mate, you're a legend.
SoSpacer watching this be like : A new foe has appeared
Literally just ordered from SoSpacer hahaha
Which ones do you think are better tho? SoSpacers seem a little to small to achieve biomechanic benefit.
Any experience so far ?
@@phronesis1642 Didn't tried Struth Grips but in think they will be better than SoSpacer.
I have SoSpacer Grips on 4 mice (4 each) and it add a bit of stability, i have 2 on each main click.
Personally i REALLY didn't liked them on both side of any of my mice. But it's personal preference and you can't know if u will like them or hate them without trying every placement possible (the adhesif is really great u can replace them a huge amount of time without loosing one).
Struth grips seems promising if they are enough grippy, i will try them if one day he release them on black and white (and if that happen i hope they will be available on Maxgaming ^^).
@@phronesis1642honestly have tried so spacers but been using these mouse grips n i regret spending $30 in them... feels like a waste i was looking for consistency n comfort but all it has done is provide discomfort cramps my hand and made my aim feel worse.
way cheaper tho🤔
This looks like a pretty sick idea for claw users, I might like them but probably only at the shallowest slope. I think I like to roll my mouse on my fingers to move it up and down, right now it works just fine with grips but who knows what grip security I'm missing out on.
You do what?
I always thinking about ideas similar to yours to lessen the gripping issue. Glad that you have this idea that is much more simple than mine and able to make it into reality.
but what is your solution? seems complex and interesting
great idea and just bought one. there are so many possibilities with such a simple mod. as someone that loves consistency like never changing sens or resolution, having a consistent locked in grip sounds so appealing
Sooooo
How is it
I also like consistency. Huge part of it is posture, it’s 24% of result for me.
any updates?
@@ZaphaPlays I do feel more locked in but I think they would have more of an impact with an ambi mouse. I'm using a dav3 and put only one of these pieces on the ring finger area and the amount of grip that I gain is just barely significant which is a testament to how good my mouse fit my hand. If I was still using the superlight I think I would've loved this product. I don't regret the purchase at all tho
Placebo cause you spent money on it@@bonkersbruv
This is awesome! Thanks for coming up with it!
I used to stick finger holds made of a malleable adhesives like Sugru on my mice. Nice to know my idea wasn't that bad.
I used the little rubber bumpers that stop your kitchen drawers slamming when you close them! xD
i used the sticky squares people used to make 3d cards lol
I've been looking for something like this for years and it's sick to see someone who has such a high amount of passion and motivation towards doing what they love in the aim community! keep up the great work and I'll definitely be following along with whatever you do next :)
oh hi arent u in sky discord :o
@@mayo0006 haha yes I'm one of her mods :3
Thank you so much for the kind words!
@@TurboZarya @mayo0006 LOL HEY GUYS
OMG I KNOW YOU FROM SKY'S STREAM
seems pretty cool! I might order it in the future if I feel like I need to try it.
such a simple but useful idea. surprised no one thought of this sooner. buying this soon!
This is GENIUS! I wish I had this during my peak gaming time! I don't even game anymore, but THIS is so interesting. I WISH I had this. I think this is the thing that would've taken my aim towards the next level and I was already pretty good (I was the nr1. bf4 player on the global leaderboards xd).
I think this solves the problems that I have with mice. Grips help but as I get older my pinky has started to hurt. I think this can add enough thickness and get my pinky bank into a normal position.
Glad & thankful your channel came in recommended; Bought 1 looking forward to trying it out
very nice mod! I've done this to a couple of my mice with putty so its cool to see a dedicated product for it, but I've since swapped back to palm grip. me from 1 year ago needed this tho lol!
Why switch back?
@BobRoss-hl8cm I ended up preferring and playing better with Palm grip. This only works with claw it fingertip
I noticed this recently when trying a foam grip tape its comfortable but it falls short because its following the shape of the mouse. I'm definitely making this mod to my mouse
That's actually how I first started playing around with this idea.
What if the movement of the mouse will be fully duplicated on the monitor, with the same speed, and with a correctly configured field of view relative to the person (that is, the monitor would act as a window into the game world, and not as usual, with a fisheye effect)?
i was doubtful at first. when these arrived, i let it sit on my desk for couple days. But man these things significantly improved my aim to the point it feels natural.
i have to commend you coming up with this brilliant idea. No change in mouse shape can ever replicate the feel i get from this mod. Genius
That is so great to hear.
How long did shipping take? Ive been contemplating buying but if it takes too long i would have to order it later down the line
@@PoojHoon Took 2 days to ship and 12 days to arrive here. Ordered from Canada
@@user-do6rr5fo6w thank you!!
Funnily enough I use to stack grip tape to do what your product does. I'm glad you actually created something specifically for this problem. Kudos
I have been doing something similar, just thick double sided tape, the one used to stick things to walls and such. Maybe not as comfortable as your triangular design, but I do like my finger on the edges.
Im sure the grip direction helps, but im so much more interested in the fact that it gives me a consistent grip location. Just bought one to test it out myself.
any update?
@@gmaynard yeah! Really dig them. Super consistent grip. My fingers lay in the same spot every time now.
Doesn't work well with my pinky but I have a much more natural tendency to a relaxed palm grip over a claw grip. But my ring finger loves it.
8/10 not necessary by any means, but can make your grip more consistent and comfortable. If you already have a comfortable grip with your mouse then there's no need.
@@nicholasgibson awesome thx for update (:
I am a radiant ranked player on valorant and I am going to try this, I have very odd cramping in my hands due to mice being not shaped properly for me. Thanks!
How did you like them?
So I use a g-pro superlight, and just installed my set of ClawMate mouse mod grips. I installed mine like the XM1R with a gentle slope based on where my hand naturally sits. I trimmed the top of the thumb grip with a razer blade to allow for easier thumb to rear side button actuation for in game key binds in Call of duty. First match went 40-22 on shipment, which is slightly better than my normal KD winning the match easily for my team at 200 - 44. It will take some getting used to, but my experience so far is profound. I feel like I can loosen my death grip on the mouse, and having these in place ensures my hand is in exactly the same position over and over for muscle memory purposes. 5 Stars. Love it. The kit came with extra everything. I think im going to really love this mod.
That's great to hear mate, how are you going with them now?
Great idea and clever implementation! Can't wait for a black or white colour choise.
Variation of claw and fingertip user here with a Superlight. 1 with concave angle for pinkie on the right side, and this thing is brilliant. So much more stability, used to play at about 40-50 cm/360, have the same stability at about 30 cm/360 and tracking has improved instantly, Granted I have thousands of hours in fps games and aim trainers and have always min/maxed my sensitivity settings per game, this has been a game changer. I put one on the work mouse as well as I just can't use a mouse without one now. Only complaint I have is why did I not have this sooner? It's hard to get used to as I'm actively thinking about it being there, so until it becomes second nature it's a learning curve, but every benefit you can imagine it would have, it has, simple as that, can't argue with physics end of the day! 10/10
Thank you so much for the comment, it's so great to hear you're having a great time with them.
Great! Dirt, grease and dead skin has been my go to grip till now.
I just received mine a couple of days ago....... these mods are absolute game changers! It takes a bit of experimentation and moving some of the mods around, but you get plenty of tape to try and perfect the positioning. Once you get the right spot, holding your mouse feels so good. 10/10
Just purchased mine- can’t wait to try it out!
no criticism, great mod, but the price is a bit over for something i can find around my house and use double sided tape to adhere. really good innovation however 👍
This looks like an interesting product. I might have to try them out. Would be interested to hear some reviewer's thoughts like Rocket Jump Ninja, or Boardzy.
Agreed
Can you explain your technique of aiming slightly to the side of an enemy then flicking to them last second before you shoot? Never seen this playstyle before.
This feels like the solution that i never knew existed. I cant say that holding my mouse in claw is difficult but theres definately times where i search on elo shapes forever thinking maybe a certain side angle or width is the right solution. this makes so much sense, i hope these become a standard in the future when selling claw mice, sort of how grip tape and extra feet are now becoming a standard.
I loved the Razer Naga's shape (especially the pre 2014 version) for exactly this reason. It has a slope that allows your ring finger to somewhat grip the mouse how the finger would normally close, and not force you to pinch the mouse sideways. This is especially helpful when you are claw gripping.
This seems really damn cool. I love the thought process, I like the implementation, I need to try a set. I think this could really be a hidden gem
Thanks for releasing these! Looks like one of those WHY NOT YEARS AGO PRODUCTS!
So your revolutionary product is... an angled piece of plastic
this is the future iam sure
Just ordered this. I agree w/ the points in this video, and I'm really looking forward to your product! :)
Just came across this from Logpile's video with you and the other creators. I broke my pinky finger over a year ago and have been obsessive about finding a mouse with the right grip to accommodate my pinky not being able to bend in anymore, I recently had decided nothing existed and decided to pad out my EGG XM2we with stacked layers of grip tape to create a similar product to these wedges you made, though your solution looks better :)
you are seriously underrated, hope you get big some day, btw the mod would also make the mouse slightly more ergonomic
Amazing vid❤️
Such a rad concept. I can't wait to try these out.
Thanks for the hint on the ergonomics of gripping, I'll try this out on my 3D printed gaming mouse!
This is the first time I have been able to use my natural grip comfortably like this. Truly a game changer. My aim has never been so steady. Knocked it out of the park.
I have some feedback for an updated product. I aggressive claw with a X2-H mini so the grips are in the center of the mouse. Because my pinky is smaller I sit a little higher on the back grip and I get a less even contact. Additionally my thumb is at quite flat to the left side of the mouse because of my grip, so the grips are too high and get in the way. Because of these reasons I could use some half sized grips. Ill cut them myself so Ill figure it out but I suspect others could have similar use cases.
Oh and was there any stronger tape that you found so I can get some myself. I do not mind the color.
Thanks a bunch!
So glad to hear it! The thumb is already in a great position to grip the mouse so that one is entirely optional. There are 8 wedges so you could indeed cut some to size if you are careful. I think providing half or even third size wedges could be a great addition in the future to fine tune setups.
I have tried so many tapes at this point and these two were the most effective. If you are having troubles with them not staying put, you may need to give them more time before being gripped into. Both have bonds that improve over 72 hours, so while you should be able to use them immediately in the majority of situations, if you do have trouble you may need to wait a little longer.
If you have a wedge placed on a precarious position, you can use some extra thick tape to help buffer it. It's not pretty but it helps - gyazo.com/77d077a8849e054e342593abe0a53fea
@@StruthGaming
Yeah The thumb defiantly isnt necessary but I think Im liking the position it puts my hand in with my grip. Still need some time to be sure.
Yeah I know that leaving them longer will help so once I quadruple confirm the positions ill try give them a long time to help them bond better. Ive started using grip tape(Supergrips) from infront and up them and I think this is enough to keep them in place but I might give the thick tape behind a go also, good idea.
Hope you are able to keep up with demand!
Thanks,
Hayden.
Ive been having so many problems finding a comfortable fingertip grip while maintaining control
I hope these will allow me to do thay 😊
such a great idea, i like how robust it makes the mice look its funky
I absolutely love this idea and congratulations for the completion of the product! I’m sad that the shipping fee is more expensive than the ClawMate itself since I live in Japan 😭
I wonder what RJN would say about this? 😆
Fingertip grip a mouse made of air while you wear a sleeve, probably.
So the "5 minutes of Apex tracking asmr" is with the grips? I honestly started thinking there was something going on there 😮 If so, you should use some of the clips as a promo. Its fucking insane
It was! Just about everything from March onwards was using the grips in one way or another.
I thought about this many years ago. There was actually one mouse that felt the best to me in all my years gaming because it allowed for a more precise natural grip of the mouse like this, and it was Razers original Copperhead mouse. It had rubber side rails on each side that I could essentially hold with my thumb and ring finger for perfect movements. I've begged Razer many times to bring it back but they never have. I guess too many people couldn't adjust to this style of mouse or aiming back in the day.
I get a similar effect with the G502 as a lefty. my ring finger can "grab" onto the aim button and my pinky can kinda grab the edge of the mouse allowing for a very secure grip
This is the solution to the same problem I always thought all gaming mice have. When trying to grip air with my hand, I always knew that positioning fingers curving inwards would be the most natural and comfortable fit for stable aim, so good job for putting in the time to develop this product and putting it out there, that's genuinely 400IQ.
this is a bad solution, what's needed is totally custom-shaped mice, and curling the fingers like that also becomes unnecessary
good job!
Thanks!
I made a mod similar to this like 7 years ago with sticky tac, I'm glad someone is bringing it into full production and with a better material haha
I just heard your introduction for the video and I was like, this is the right channel for me. Great content! New sub here.
Bro over 15€??? You need to get that price down.
The price isn't really there for the materials (although they are surprisingly expensive), it's for the labor that goes into creating each pack and the years of aiming experience/testing that culminated in their development.
Will hopefully have some resellers set up in the new year to make shipping easier.
How do I set them up, can you make a video about how to put them on correctly?
Which stuff to use etc.
I am switch between palm and claw types. Using a Logitech G Pro Superlight, and due to my hands being far smaller than yours I find my claw grip to be a bit different where my pinky and ring finger are both touching the the mouse as if I am gripping onto a bottle, meaning the fingers have direct contact with the plastic and not lay sideways like in your case (Most mice I used were like that for me).
Mice are very personal preference thing same as DPI and Sensitivity in each game for each person, that's the beauty of PC gaming, you have much wider selection of adjustment when it comes to peripherals (this includes open or closed back headphones or in-ear buds). Your solution fits your fingers due to the size of the hand you have, not everyone has big hands.
None the less, AMAZING WORK!
but now my mouse is less aerodynamic and doesnt fit up my butt
meow 🙀🙀
^^^^^Truth
$17 + tax and shipping? Absurd
you’re paying for the R&D as well as the materials and time, feel free to model them yourself and get someone with a 3d printer to make them out of the right stuff and ship them to you
@@seanp2k617yuh its not that bad tbh, and ofc shipping from australia isnt free.
Cheapo
After having a delivery problem, he sent me a new one ! Very nice from him, thank you again.
Glad we could get it all sorted :) Hope you're having a good time with them.
@@StruthGaming Yes, thank you! At the start, it was weird, but now I'm getting used to it, and I can feel better control. It's funny that now I'm doing something I never did before - having fun by doing 360° with my mouse, ahah
Hope a retailier in the philippines picks this up, really want to try this out
$17 for this, and that doesn't include shipping cost? I get it, it's the first on the market. But... Let's be honest. This should honestly be priced for consumers at maybe $10...
Bro doesn’t have $7 💀
@@gixxerin1693Blud does not have a good economic sense.
Cool but I'm not paying 15€ for 3 little pieces of plastic
Fair, but just to clarify it's 8 wedges of silicone. The price isn't really there for the materials (although they are surprisingly expensive), it's for the labor that goes into creating each pack and the years of aiming experience/testing that culminated in their development.
Just ordered 2 , Love the idea!
Awesome, thank you!
Subbed at your intro, what a cool job!
Just ordered! Going to test with the G Pro Superlight, Viper V2 Pro, G303, and Deathadder. Excited to review!
How did you go? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
Looked interesting, saw you were an Aussie and immediately bought to support! Good stuff mate!
this looks so cool
Absolutely love this concept, and bookmarking so I'm ready for when I can splurge again. I'm sure you've already got a ton of requests for different colors but my preference is definitely blues and teals. 😜💙💚
Great idea! Just made this with some paper and tape
Omg I've done something similar to this when I placed some of the rubber feet I bought for my keyboards onto my mouse but gave up because they didn't feel like the right shape. I totally forgot about it until now and I'm really happy someone did something with this. Will for sure be buying this.
gonna try this tomorow with some double tape and foam.
Just purchased 2 packs. Can’t wait to try it out
I just ordered mine 👌 Also just wanted to say that you're one of my favorite youtubers and by far have the best informational content on the fps genre, I would've never improved as much and as fast if I hadn't seen your videos, I just wanted to say thanks
Just ordered one, Hopefully it won't take too long. Great idea. I always though that mice should be wider so you hand can be more open and relaxed. Most are designed so that you have to spend energy just holding on to the mouse. The more muscles engaged the more coordination needed.
Energy just holding the mouse? You’re probably doing something wrong or chose incompatible mouse for your hands. After reaching top 0.2% in floatclick in Aimlabs, my result is about wrist smoothness which is achieved by having consistent support of back of hand and wrist glide. Glide must be uninterrupted by mouse lifting and cover the whole aiming area with a single gliding action
@@IrrationalDelusion I agree, I'm by no means a top tier aimer however, I do know alot about hand ergonomics and coordination.
I've been a professional drummer for 34 years.
For me, my hands are 20 cm long by 10.5 cm wide. If I put my hand in a neutral position, my fingers curled, and place my hand on a ruler, the space between my thumb and pinky is 9cm.
Looking at Rocket Jumps list of top mice, the widest mouse is the Death Adder V2 at 6cm. Unfortunaetly that is a weighty mouse compared to a Death Adder V3. For me the widest feeling mous I've tried was a Cooler Master MM720, which feels great but is a garbage mouse button and sensor wise and a Razer Mamba, which is a boat anchor weight wise.
Now even with wide mice, for me I need to move my thumb or pinky in to cover the 3 cm gap between my neutral position and the sides of the mouse.
To do that I have to expend some amount of energy to have control. That level of energy is constant and there is always a signal from the brain telling the fingers to grip 3cm tighter than neutral. Granted, it's not much energy but it's more than if your hand was in a neutral position.
Your brain has to always take that signal into account when it sends any other commands to you hands. This product by Struth could help me cover the 3 cm gap I need to cover to have my hands in a neutral position.
For most people it probably doesnt matter, I look forward to trying it.
I put a piece of Lizard tape on the hump of my mouse just behind the trigger buttons so I can control things with my hand more open, I primarily use wrist, hopefully these silicone things will help even more.
@@superangrysnowman5869 Interesting take, you might be rare having wide hands with no mouses fitting properly
I did something similar making a custom mold for my Viper Ultimate to make it more comfortable, as yes, it is uncomfortable on the pinky finger for sure. My mold didn't last to long, and was very customized, and so ended up having to remove it. I don't claw grip, and more of a palm gripper, but I may try these out in some different orientations, as my pinky gets sore having to squeeze underneath the third finger slightly. Only wish they came in black. lol
That indeed makes sense. I think the next step would be to create a body that flares out in the right for the pinky and the err (right ring finger?) to rest on. What's that finger called? Might have missed it in the video. I have a G502 hero that has that resting lip on the left hand side. That kinda acts as an anchor point. I'll be interested to see what out come up with next.
This is awesome. Thank you! Keep it up :)
Thanks! Much appreciated :)
Order placed! I'm excited to try them out, I'll be patiently waiting for shipping into the States :P @@StruthGaming
I've just bought it, as someone that has a similar (also shorter) trajectory in aiming as you, I have high expectations. Let's see how it goes and how long it takes to arrive
this is such a brilliant idea....this can even give people that have larger hands the option to move to smaller mice
Great idea! Would love to see something like this for palm grip. Might not work the same way though.
i imagine that for palm grip having the grips above the fingers to help lifting the mouse could give an awesome locked on feeling. At least thats my only problem when using palm, ime most palm mice require some force when lifting them up
Depending on how long you need it, might as well have something that goes on the hump.
great idea, gonna give it a try
Hi ! I had the exact same issue and turned to Madcatz's RAT 8+ hoping their customizable option would hep me find my optimal grip. Bar the thumb support you created, I found their add on plate on the right side (support for pinkie and fourth) acts as your addons and massively improve the grip I have. Not ideal but the closest I could get it without tinkrering with it. The tunable back is very useful as you can tune it so it fits tightly in the back of your palm while you grab the mouse in claw.
What are your views on the RAT 8+ ?
Great innovation anyways and I'm sure it would cost less than a madcatz mouse... Keep on the great work !
Funny, I've done the same thing with my furniture silicone stickers, they're little bumps that help.
ill be buying one of these for my pc setup when its completed
now i know why i have digged a hole with my fingernails into my razer viper but honestly it doesnt feel that bad gripping it that way
just bought some for my shroud G303. i was thinking about experimenting with putting them on mouse 1 & 2 for shooting and aiming so i'll have to push down and back at the same time but will prevent my fingers from slipping
Im gonna cry im so happy i found this video. I feel like this is an issue I've just accepted as fate for my hadns. Im tooo excted for my just purchased set to come to me. Love you
I wonder how well it might work on fingertip grip mice, such as the HSK Plus/Pros.
Amazing mod sir, will definetly pick a pack or two in future for everyone in my team. Also so you think that you will make alternative version with very little vertical line ladder like cutouts inside for even more grippy and tactile experience? For us whose hands get sweaty in a day long practice session.
Did you end up trying them out? If you'd like any help/advice on optimizing their placement just let me know.
I've found there are no problems with sweatiness so long as you have a desktop fan or pedestal fan going. It was something I considered, but I figured it would negatively impact more people than it would help overall.
Brother you solved my finger tip grip inconsistency. God bless your soul !
Just AWESOME!!!!
So refreshing to see someone inventing something that it new and seems logical, would love to try it. Just got done watching a video with someone that has way more subs than you and using parts from other mice to make the mouse lighter....Hoping that his audience buys into it.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Did you end up giving them a shot?
any plans to release different color options like black or white?