Brandin Podziemski or Moses Moody - who should start for the Golden State Warriors?
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- The Golden State Warriors front office is reportedly looking to bring in some new pieces in the 2024 offseason, but some familiar faces could also be stepping into bigger roles. With Klay Thompson's future with the organization uncertain as free agency approaches, who could start at the 2 spot next season? Brandin Podziemski started in that role for portions of the 2023-24 season, but many believe Moses Moody is ready for a starting role. Kylen Mills and Santa Cruz Warriors broadcaster and 95.7 The Game host Kevin Danna evaluate Moody vs Podziemski, and what their best roles might be with the team moving forward.
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Start Moody, and Bring Podz off the bench as a back up pg to steph and a combo gaird woth steph when the resting moody.
Podz was drafted into the league as a shooting guard not point guard lol. He a SG/PG. Stop with the back up point guard narrative.
@@Kdfamilyman71he plays more like a pg then a sg. He is like Divinciezo but with better passing and ball handling but less athleticism. He makes great decisions when on ball. The only thing he lacks is 3 point shooting and free throw percentage to be a great back up point. And I think he can develop that this of season.
Podz even said he’s like Draymond and it showed in his play when he starts. If Draymond starts you don’t need a second one starting.
No, he was draft as a combo guard. Moody was draft as a shooting guard. And Moody is way better than Podz.
Podz is not that good. He is good rebounder and sometimes he can shoot but dude isn’t as good as Vin or moody stop that cap. He passing is alright and he can’t do any lay ups with his right hand.. did ya forget that easy as lay up he smoked with his right. Dude is a decent roll player that’s it.
Moody is a better floor spacer, point of attack defender. These 2 abilities were Klay’s best skills. So it is easy for me to start Moody if we are talking about someone taking Klay’s starting role.
+if Moody starts. Pods can keep the same role and won't need to change a thing
Klay's starting role?
That ship has sailed. 😉
Can't forget how Moody was clutch in a lot of close games we ended up losing last season after they took him out, he deserves a larger role on this team...Moses Moody is solid.
Moody starts... podz can take the CP role
.... Kylen, love the way you have grown to guide the shows lately. Never feel like I have to agree or disagree with the content, but it's presented in a mannerism that I find enjoyable to listen to. Keep up the work and best of luck growing as a sports media entertainer!
Moody definetely would be way better if kerr gives Moody, the Podz and Klay minutes.
Moody is a victim of kerr’s love of small guys. We look at his stats, a lot of which were tanked cause of consistent garbage time 2 minute nights and say he can’t be this or that. The best indicator is to look compare each player when they’ve started. In which, Podz looks like Draymond (in all facets except defense) and moody looks like he can be a pre-injury Klay type of player for the team. It’s an obvious choice but the glamour of charges hypnotizing people into thinking a team defender is better than POA defense that the fans have been complaining about all season. Also, it’s not like moody hasn’t all gotten a good amount of charges this year, but yes now down to the charge king🙇🏾♂️
No he’s not. Moody was the victim of better players being ahead of him. Klay, Wiggins, and GP2 all were better than him and contributed majorly towards a championship .
Moody has never looked like pre injury klay at any point. He’s a solid role player. It seems like you’re trying to down play podz even though he’s better at everything other than POA defense
@@ninerempire3398 1. I said he can be a pre-injury Klay not that he already is.
2. When you go back and watch these games, how many of these guys can you actively played better than moody to keep their time over him this season.
That championship is 2 seasons old now if we’re awarding minutes based on the past then neither Kuminga, moody, Podz, or TJD should have seen the floor this season.
@@ninerempire3398 I couldn't disagree more. Remember the Kings game at the start of the season? Moody was on fire, but Kerr yanked him to play Klay and CP3, then had to apologize for it. Since then, Moody has been riding the bench.
Ironically, the same thing happened in the last game of the season against the Kings. Moody played 15 minutes and scored 16 points, but didn't finish the game. Klay played 35 minutes and scored 0. Moody's issue isn't his skillset; it's Kerr's decisions.
And let's not forget the FIBA Cup 2022, where Kerr made Reaves the focal point over Haliburton and Ant. Just saying.
@@Iguessitsme I don’t think he can be that . I see him as a higher scoring danny green which is a good player. He’s not that type of shooter , klay is the second best shooter ever. I see moody as a solid shooter . And U just think all those players are better than moody, that’s all it is. We needed podz ball handling and we were just a better team with him playing, we needing JK’s athleticism and scoring, and we needed TJD because we don’t have a big like him with his athleticism/rim protecting ability. I just don’t think moody is better than the people that were ahead of him. I think he can be a championship rotation player tho
@@yolomondo what if the coaching staff just doesn’t think he is good enough to beat out those players ? He has flashes here and there but I see him as just a valuable role player on a good team. He can play good defense , hustles hard, and can knock down jumpers at a solid rate . I just don’t see the upside with him
First of all Podz in not really a 6'4" guy, if see him with Stephen Curry they almost the same height. Stephen Curry is more like a 6'2.75" height and Podz is more like a 6'3.75" height. Podz is just 6'5.5 wingspan and a 8'05" standing reach, that is to small for a shooting guard in a contention team in today nba, he was a combo guard but that was in college. In the NBA that us to small, you wonder why teams were killing the warriors in the perimeter. On the other hand Moody Moody is an authentic 6'5" with with a 7'1" wingspan and a 8'9" standing reach. Moses Moody is a authentic Shooting Guard that have a wingspan like a forward. On the other hand people have not do their homework. If we are going to compare who should start between Moody and Podz, here is some stats. Podz thanks to Kerr have start in 28 games their record was 17 and 11 in those games that 60.71 % winning record. On the other hand with Moses moody as a starter he play 9 games with a record of 6 and 3 that is a 66% win record. Then you go to the stats as starters per 36 minutes to be fair. Podz score 11.4 points per game with a 42.9 FG% and a 33.6 3 point%. On the other hand Moody as a starter score 18.3 points per game with 51.9 FG% and a 39.5 3 point%. The 3 point percentage is 4 of the team as a starter. Curry is 40.8 and Klay is 37.7 percentage. Moody have better all around scoring FG and 3 Point % better than podz and klay. In Defense Moody is a better on bal defender than Podz and klay. Podz is more like Klay a spot shooter, and in similar to klay, both can't create their own shot. On the other hand if you se Moody play, he is a spot 3 point shooter and a on ball shooter, even has a step back 3 point shot like steph and luka. Just wath the games. Moody is more athletic and explosive than klay and podz, he can drive to the basket and dunk or get foul. Stats and eye test don't lie. You can not compare Moody to podz or klay if you give Moody the klay or podz minutes he can deliver. Do you remember how good Moody defend Brunson or Luka? Do you remember the fiasco that Kerr did to Moody against portland or the last game of the season against sacramento? Moody was the best player in that game. If the warriors want to be better next season they need to Start Moody, kuminga and TJD with steph and draymond.
If Klay leaves and nobody comes in, the warriors are done. Steph would have no room to breathe and the job would be that much harder at 36. People need to get real. Neither of these guys left on the roster would provide what Klay brings just being on the floor. People don't understand basketball and understand Steph's game. It would be the beginning of the end for the warriors and people can then come back to reality on what the core has brought to the warriors for 10+ years.
Spot on man, without Klay its even more hard for Steph. The Warriors need a threat down low to offset what klay brings on the court. No one ever can replace except maybe Kuminga when he plays consistently and improved his perimeter offense or outside shoting close to 50% or over 50%
Y'all talking about keeping a team together that placed 10th and no playoffs, the year before were just as bad, so unless one of the younger players have a breakout double double player, feel lucky to make the play-in again...
They are done already - or did you miss the last season. Time to move on.
Klay didn't do much to prove your point. Why do you think he was benched?
I guess you didn't see how good they looked when Poole started in the beginning of the year when Klay was out. They had a better record. Curry looked like he was having more fun and had pressure taken off him. They 100% need a guy that takes ball pressure off Curry now.
Moody. Podz is a pass first guard and is better to lead the bench.
Podz is absolutely not a pass first guard. He's a shot hunter, the ball sticks with him, he runs the clock out very often.
Moody should be starting at the 2 and podz should be coming off the bench backing up steph
Moooooooooody!!!! I think its more apples and oranges... Moody is more a 2... Podz is a 1 and probably best coming in off bench behind curry
Having more charges doesnt make a player a better defender
I am really happy that Kylen is doing Locked On Warriors. Such refreshing professionalism and clarity. I did like the previous host for his passion and intensity-but it got in the way sometimes as his delivery would be full of mistakes, technical problems like talking for 10 minutes with no sound, constant hate for Kerr. Now I understand that passion-and I think he knows his basketball-but I’m happy with how even keel Kylen delivers this podcast. Lots of sports knowledge from a former athlete.
So pleasantly surprised that Kylen is the main host now. Cyrus was fine but he was a little hard to listen to. Gonna watch this show more consistently now.
Start Moses! Podz can be our 6th man off the bench!
Kylen has made warriors our daily part of lives in offseason🎉
I predict that Moses Moody will make a bigger jump than JK did last year……..Moses will lead is team to the Promise Land! Let’s go Warriors!!!!
Podz is a defensive liability, showman. Don’t get tricked by his blocks. Give him a bag then you can see his true self.
Moody is the man. He is our Derrick White 💪
Podz off the bench to boost them up!!!
Hear me out as I think out of the box a bit. If Klay moves on (or even if he doesn’t), consider Wiggins at the 2. This gives you a starting five of Steph, JK at 3 Dray at 4 and TJD at 5. Podz backs up Steph and Moses backs up Wigs at the 2. You instantly get bigger and more athletic. Your bench is stronger and more flexible too. Everyone is ready to move on from Wigs but I think not so fast. Can you get the value for him? I don’t think so. Still need another big or two and who backs up Draymond? Any of the young guys? IDK. Thoughts?
I like this, especially if we can get a starting stretch five with a trade.
I don’t hate the idea, I just question the spacing. No real shooting outside of Steph
I would flip it. Wigs on the second unit and Moody to the start. Otherwise, pretty solid proposal.
@@bogusphone8000 I'd happily try that out. The point is that we have options - good ones. Kerr needs to think out of the box and give these other buys some burn. Let's see if they're as good as we think they are.
It's very easy to me. Moses is the bigger, more impactful defender. He's also just as good a shooter and maybe more adept at getting his own shot. Podz is best suited as a backup combo gaurd. Sometimes with Steph, but mostly subbing for Steph.
That's not true because Steph played better with Brandin Podziemski on the floor. The numbers show that.
@@Kdfamilyman71Steph plays better but the team has to be better to win games. Moody does more of what is needed in the potential 2 guard.
Podz is able to get his shot a lot better than moody
@@Kdfamilyman71 numbers also showed everything I said. Shooting was about the same. Moody scored about the same ppg with way fewer minutes, and Moses was by far the better defender.
@@ninerempire3398 I think this is similar to the argument of Kyrie vs Steph. Kyrie(Podz) has more moves but Steph(moody) is more effective in his moves. Moody is a closer comparison to what Klay was and shown the ability to shoot well in tighter windows than Podz but Podz can create space off the bounce better. The aggression as a scorer and spacer is Podz issue which is why Klay came back to a starting role after less than 15 games.
Start Moody over BP.
Cyrus Saatsaz has now moved over to The Golden Daze podcast. Give the channel a sub and watch for daily warriors content. 2 daily warriors podcast with great content, what's not to love.
Kylen, I think you are right on the money in your analysis.
Really appreciate you reaching out and finding contrary points of view and having a good faith back and forth.
Start Moody. Podz is the energizer coiming off the bench. We need that energy.
Podz can get those charges off the bench. They need more offense in the starting lineup you do not need two non volume scorers starting in the lineup that’s not gonna cut it. If he can get his scoring up then yeah but his game is not sg at all. He’s more of floor general type than an electric, quick handle, scoring machine. Moses game kinda reminds me of klay in his younger years but not quite a knockdown defender like klay just yet. They’re missing a player like Jordan Poole someone that give 20-30 on a giving night to open the floor for Steph and other players. And a big that can play on the wing that shoot 3 and be somewhat of a defender. That is the recipe for the warriors success.
start moses he deserves it nd is the better backcourt option pairing for steph he js needs a lil belief frm his coach nd sum more confidence he will flourish
These numbers are averages from each players starts this past season and no one has to check it out but might as well have some kind of idea how they do when starting rather than only going off imperfect human memory and bias.
Podz(28 starts): 30 min, 9.5 pts, 6.3 rbd, 4 ast, 1 stl, 43% fg, 34% 3fg% on 3.7 attempts
Moody(9 starts): 25 minutes, 12.6 pts, 3.7 rbd, 1.4 ast, .8 stl, 52%fg, 40% 3fg% on 4.2 attempts
If you compare those stats by 36 minutes, Moody stats are way better than Podz Stats. And if you look at all the hustle stats and Defense Moody is also better. The people that wants Podz over Moody are Kerr fans and apologist.
@@EddieFast-mv8kk yea, I won’t look at per 36 cause that will start hypotheticals based on output and who knows how an actual game would be played out. I’d rather just use what these players already gave us to make their cases.
Its not hypothetical, remember Podz always play more minutes than Moody, so it would not be fair to compared averages. If Moody play the same minutes as Podz. Moody average would be way higher than Podz. That means hlw more impact player is Moody compare to Podz in the same condition. Per 36 minutes Moody scoring as a starter its 4 best in the team with 18.3 points per game. Steph score 29.1, Kuminga 21.3 Thompson 20.8 and Moody 18.3. And the hypothetical is important, because the hypothetical its more like a reality, how more points Kuminga and Moody could score if Kerr creates more plays for them and not so much to curry. Then kerr put Green as a starter so he can make all the passes to curry. And right now they just have one system, make all the passes to curry. In this new offensive NBA, they can't win if they din't create more offensive option for other players. Just watch the celtics and dallas and denver among a few.
If a hof pg like cp3 can come off the bench as backup pg, there is no reason podz should not. Pairing steph with another undersized player who is bad defensively should be a crime
I'll start moses
Moody > pods
Moody
BP had a great rookie year unexpectedly , now I want to see him perform well in Summer League and put together a better year 2 in the NBA and that will tell us a lot about what he will be in this league!
Moses moody is a real athlete and great defender and he is not going anywhere .period end of discussion
Moody better point of attack defender and Podz is a better team which when Draymond is in the game you already have a over rotating player in Dray, sometimes it looked like a mess of over rotating. Podz and Draymond they kind of do the same thing, connecter on the court. Free Moody or let him go. Kerr has talked up Moody for three years but still does give him a chance. It’s his 4th year, play him or trade him.. If I Moody, I don’t resign here. #FREEMOODY.
Dray needs to move back to PG Green
Also, at the end of the season, teams where picking on Podz on the perimeter in the Sac play in game he looked SLOW
Everyone knows there’s not a chance that Moody starts with Steve as the coach
Should be Moody no question, defense is way better too. Moody pretty much a 3 & D.
Brandon as backup PG and run the 2nd unit while Moody take over Klay as starting SG and backup SF for Wiggin
West is crazy! Even if Wiggins, Klay and Green plays like all stars they are likely not going past 2nd round. Best for them is to trade those 3 and sign some fresh BLOOD
It puzzles me how everyone dismissis Wiggins and I do understand but nobody stops to think how well he was playing and why that was🤔 he played a lot more on ball before klay came back from injury and was really good a legit second option he hasn't been so effective the way they have used him sense 🤷♂️
we need both but i think we need moses scoring and defense to start
Podz is a poor man Jordan Poole as far as the roll he has to play in Kerr system Moody should start if they keep him and let Klay roll on
He’s gonna be the winning version of poole lmao
He played better than poole did last season and with a better attitude
Great show!
Start moody. Always been a fan of his and I see KCP ish potential, bigger guard that can play great defense and space the floor for Steph.
Jaylin Williams of the Thunder led the league in charge calls year before last as a rookie. Last year he seldom got a charge call. Basing Pods starting on charge calls might not pan out.
Moses should be the starter. Brandon off the bench!!!
Wait what does the chat think about Gui Santos being the backup Center/PF next season his stats when he played was very good and he would be in his 2nd year.
Moses is 6”6 better defender helps currys weakness
Podz of course..
MOODY SHOULD START
Moody is better as he shots 3 points well
Warriors have plenty with Steph, Moody, BP, GP2, CP3...let's go get Jarrett Allen for the Big man rotation with Green and TJD...for the 3 spot give Kuminga the majority of those minutes...we just need a Big man
Based on Kerr’s past bias for little people, my money is on him starting Pods though any other coach would likely choose Moody.
PODZ is a GOD at taking charges 😂
Shout out to Santa Cruz Warriors!! What's the deal with Jackson Rowe? If the Warriors are desperate for a stretch 4, why didn't they ever give Rowe a chance?
For anyone who doesn't know Rowe is taller than Draymond Green, super long arms, and only shot 36% on threes while shooting over 6 per game, but he could definitely shoot better with better players around him and better spacing. I think he has potential to fill a big need.
We need to move Wiggins to his natural position which is 2 guard. That would also allow kamanga to play his natural position which is the 3
wiggins has never been a 2, at kansas, t wolves or warriors
@@abprepboy33 you know there's this thing called google. He was listed as a 6'8" guard in college.
Moody reminds me of a danny green/KCP type later in his career. Good defender and solid shooter. I was more of a fan of trey murphy over moses moody
moody should start, they haven't given him time and space to grow yet. he is very good
Wrong question.
Podz is a 1, not a 2. He should be Steph's backup. Moody is the starting 2. GP is the backup 2.
Fitz says he wants to run it back, but if the warriors went out and got a brandon Ingram or a Dejaunte Murray.... Fitz would be praising them for a great off season
Kevin Danna said "no knock on moody" multiple times times. What is this man not seeing that we all see when moody plays great especially given his limited role
should start - 1 curry 2 wiggs/moody/buddy 3. kuminga 4.green 5. trayce
give him tht young klay role play defense nd u can get buckets
Can you bring Brandon off the bench? That way he can back up curry because he could be a good back at Fort Gordon obviously Moses Moody can’t.
Wiggins & GP 1st for Dejounte Murray Adrian Griffin Do it !!
Klay & Looney for Jarrett Allen
Curry Murray Kuminga Draymond Allen
Podz Moody Adrian
This guy don't know what he talking about...Moody starts...BP back up Steph
My thing is y klay wants all this money ..he shot hella brick and went 0 for 10 against sac ..has bad attitude like he entitled to something... this guy gotta go smdh
Where is Cy?
Would start Moody and bring Podz off the bench
What happened to cy?
Moses
With Clay the team didn't make the playoffs, so if one of the younger players don't emerge as a breakout double double player, just feel lucky to be in the play-in again.
because the team wont acquire any new talent this offseason
@@abprepboy33 they'll be short of a miracle to make the play-in................it's over...
@@bigred0079 LOL- so they might as well just fold as an organization because its impossible to ever build a competitive team again? because thats what over means. this current roster- they arent going to accomplish anything. but to not even try and make any moves until the end of time seems ridiculous
I'd actually trade both and Thompson,
I like moody podziemski Trey Jackson
Move Wiggen back to his natural 2 position. Kerr's favorites. 😂😂😂
Moody been wit the warriors longer so yes and bench Brandon
How about neither
Curry
Wiggins
Kuminga
Green
Davis
Off the bench
Brandon
Gp2
Moody
Id play Moody at the 3 and Kuminga at 2 guard.
At the same time ? MM is more of 2 and JK of a 3 I think
Moody over Pods.
Podz has said in more than one interview that he considers himself a l point guard and I agree. If he ever becomes a starter its because can run the team. Although Moody was drafted as a two guard he plays more like a 3&D wing. Moody over Podz at 2 but neither one is really ideal IMO.
Lauri starts...
Overrated and not worth what we’d trade for him. He’s a lottery team numbers specialist
Podz too small and can’t shoot, and can’t create his own shot!!! If podz starts that would be a lack of spacing and Steph would get blitzed!!! We’ve seen this before! Moody is simply not capable of replacing Klay production as a threat from the 3 point line… and he doesn’t have a good feel for the game. Moody missed easy passes all the time. As a result he doesn’t see the floor as good! That probably explains why Steve Kerr doesn’t like playing him, especially with the motion offense. Warriors should bring Klay back on a 3 years 70, 23mil per and get out the tax apron and trade the youth and picks for better role players like we had in 2015. To maximize Steph window!! We need size and better talent… and spacing which the warriors lack!!! So getting rid of Klay shouldn’t be an option from a basketball standpoint!! Let’s just hope he can do a team friendly to get under the tax apron, so we can get a mid level exception players and also have more flexibility to make trades…. Let’s maximize the final 2 years of Steph curry with a real shot of winning, with proven players!!
This proves your statement to be false and invalid. Podz was top 10 in his draft class. He also shot 38.5% from 3.
The top 10 first year players in Self Created Shot Making (non assisted shots)
1. Brandon Miller
2. Chet Holmgren
3. Brandin Podziemski
4. Marcus Sasser
5. Dereck Lively II
6. Keyonte George
7. Jaime Jaquez Jr.
8. Duop Reath
9. Amen Thompson
10. Victor Wembanyama
VIA BBall Index
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@@Kdfamilyman71 Exactly. I know Podz is inconsistent but where did this “he can’t shoot” narrative come from.
He’s 39 percent from 3
Whoever plays better
where is cyrus????? you cool and pretty, but we need cys crude rude takes....makes better tv....
Cyrus has his own podcast with Golden Daze. He does a daily show like he did over here
So he left/fired?!?!?!?
Keep moody and get rid of brandin
Brandin reminds me of a kid
way toooooooooo early to talk about lineup.
nahhhh locked on lost....I'm switching to Golden daze....
Season starts tomorrow you’d be 0-1
Locked on warriors it’s not Brandon nor mosses big issues in this team is no 22 Wiggs !!!!!! It don’t matter as long as Wiggins get that much of minutes to play last year and before warriors not going to play off period! For you guys keep making this warriors CZcams off season I respect that however it’s not Klay no 1 Wiggs got to go! If you as so call locked on warriors not seeing I baffled simple baffled really??? U guys are dreaming ….. Boston won cause they have multiple consistent 3pts shooters, consistent players!!!! Get some solid consistency players in golden state is the answer!!!!!!!! Mosses and P not an issue !!! Issue here is to bring young growing hungry consistent players and big rim protecter! BP and mosses solid as a second unit
Moses true two
BRANDON can run th second unit with GP2 and lock down the second unit.
Moses sat and deserved to play and stepped up when called. When hym and hawen about the difference, his time is now.
We aint making the playoffs if we start either one of these guys.
Moody . He been ready kerr just stopped this young mans development
brandin podz is not a starter point blank , he is too small, average scorer, average three point shooter, very good rebounder, good playmaker, he should come out of bench , he is not ready.
Tbh they both should he on the bench
podz guard nobody😂
O and he a traffic cone on defense
the warriors have not made any moves its not looking good. in reality if they don't get another scorer, they are toast because those two aint it and even though klay is inconsistent we do know when he's on fire he's on fire.
Stef and Dre get out while you can you won’t be winning any championships with this lineup
no Cy, unsubscribed.....bland show....
If either are starting the season is cooked