The Ego Doesn't Die, It Never Existed
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- čas přidán 3. 09. 2022
- A man wishes to understand the death of the ego. He asks how the dissolution of the ego works, how the gifts we each bring the world change as the ego dies, and how do we experience those gifts as we change.
Rupert replies that the ego never really lived so there’s no question of it dying. The ego is not an entity. It is a belief and a feeling. It is an imaginary limitation of the only one that truly is - infinite consciousness, or self-aware being.
The attempt to bring the ego to an end is one of the subtler ways the ego perpetuates itself on the spiritual circuit. So don’t think about the death of the ego, think about who you truly are. Just emphasis that and the apparent ego - that is, the activity of thinking and feeling that I am something other than infinite consciousness - will gradually leave you.
As the sense of being a separate self dissolves, this will then affect not only your thoughts and feelings, but also your activities and relationships in the world.
This clip comes from one of Rupert's In-Person Retreats in the US in March, 2022.
Timestamps:
00:40 Understanding The Death of The Ego
01:47 What is Infinite Consciousness?
03:10 Understanding Our Gifts
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The ego is like a mirage...the mirage is simply seen through and recognized not to be water. The water never existed and so it is not destroyed. However, the mirage also does not disappear once recognized...it is just that the belief in the water is dispelled. Once a mirage is seen to be a mirage (what it really is) and not water (what it is not)...it no longer causes confusion or suffering.
Lovely words Eric. Thanks 🙏
Nicely explained 👌
Very well said, both by you and Rupert Spira :). Thank you so much!!
Yes🤔
@SIMPLY HUMAN Yes but you have to take it even further. There is no such thing as disturbance if you understand who- and why we are. Love.
Best answer ever, especially for those who are still waiting for an 'event' to happen, an event like awakening, enlightenment or the death of the ego
"The ego" is just a concept that actually limits our understanding and progress rather than helps. It also has a negative value.
I say forget about the ego concept word and just talk about the mind and its personality instead.
We need the mind. We also need the personality, but both those can and do change.
The expansion of experience-consciousness happens is non-dependant on the conceptualisations of the mind, but in the progress/change process the mind goes through changes of neurological connections and conceptualisations. The mind wants to stay busy and get mindfood. This is ok.
At a point the mind-personality is not the master anymore, but the best servant of consciousness. But it also never was something negative in and of itself, though it took some incoherent and flow resisting patterns that causes suffering.
Rupert in just one word, Sage. He is a source of subtle light in this dense and dark forest of life, inhabited by sleeping souls lost on paths of self-oblivion. He is worthy of being followed.
Thank you my friend, brother and master Rupert.
That dense and dark forest is all distortion. GLORY!
Why label at all
Good morning everyone.Take care🙏
Thank you. You take care aswell
It's afternoon here 😉 but good morning to you 💚 Hope you have a lovely day 🔥💜
Words of wisdom : ego is a belief in a separated self
Live has the striving to live and experience itself as diverse as possible, no matter if as matter, never mind if as mind or whatever.
True, but as far as it is believed in, it is experienced reality.
This might be the most enlightened man on the planet. Thanks for posting
My respect to Rupert for his wisdom which is in line with spiritual insights of introspective masters.For me ,the turning point is looking or awareness of ourselves, the body and the mind.We are conditioned to look outside but there is a inner world of thoughts ,feelings ,sensations and awareness which we are not aware of.This turning inwards is the key.If we keep looking outside for truths,we will only find relative truth,not ultimate truths of ourselves.
Absolutely
"Don’t fight with the ego, otherwise the ego will eat you! The very fight will destroy you. Fighting with anything non-existent is the most dangerous thing in the world. It is like fighting with darkness; if you start fighting with darkness, wrestling, even if you are a Mohammed Ali you are not going to win. Soon you will be tired, exhausted, and you will fall flat on the ground, thinking that darkness seems to be very powerful. Darkness is not powerful, darkness is not weak, because darkness does not exist at all. All that you need is just a small candle and the darkness will be gone.
I call that small candle meditation, and out of that small light thousands of flowers blossom within your heart: love blossoms, freedom blossoms, truth blossoms, godliness blossoms, and so on and so forth. There is no end to it - it is an eternal garden. Flowers and flowers… your whole being becomes fragrant.
Don’t fight with the ego. See where it is, what it is, otherwise it will come in some other form. You will push it away on this side, it will come from another side. You will repress one aspect, it will come through another aspect."
Pure, Perfect, Precise, Precious Truth !
Great talk, beliefs are what needs to be put aside.
I agree with the following: "The attempt to bring the ego to an end is one of the subtler ways the ego perpetuates itself on the spiritual circuit. So don’t think about the death of the ego, think about who you truly are. Just emphasis that and the apparent ego - that is, the activity of thinking and feeling that I am something other than infinite consciousness - will gradually leave you. "
However, he should have acknowledged that there have been very important exceptions, some if only by "accident." It is simply not possible to read the life of Ramana Maharshi or Adi Da (or even Steve Ford and perhaps Eckart Tolle), without seeing the very dramatic moments (all accompanied by tremendous fear) where in fact the ego did die, and these beings were entirely transformed as the true Self was revealed to them and as them.
And too, at least in the life of Adi Da, he did intuit, and then consciously pursue, the death of the ego. This is very clearly described in his biography, culminating in the Chapter THE DEATH OF NARCISSUS.
Rupert you’re the best!!! Your wisdom deepens. You always find new ways to express This every year!!! I can’t thank you enough!!!! I hope to visit you one day!!!!❤️❤️
You teachings are amazingly transparent.
Happy Teacher's Day from this part of Cosmos dear Rupert✌️
Ego death feels like a realization that you never existed.
To whom?
@@dbog5214 To your real self?
The "you" that dies is that which was just a belief that you are the body + the emotions and thoughts.
Never exist as a separate self
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Simply brilliant 🙏💖
So beautiful rupert. We are all finite consciousness having a human experience 👽
I guess you meant infinite unmanifested Consciousness manifesting or projecting itself in countless finite human experiences.
simple as that. got it. thank you.
Wonderful, thank you :-)
Awesome clarification of the nature of the so-called ego. This is a vintage Rupert teaching👍🏾🙏🏾❤️
Great
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The ego is a veil and the purpose of the veil is love (genesis 2:18).
the Ego DOESN'T DIE, IT NEVER EXISTED
Ego can still operate after enlightenment. Taking out ego is not required, it does however give freedom.
In other words who we are, which we identified with in our entire life is just a belief, an imaginary self that never really exist.
Who am I then?
Not necessarily. Everything is the self. Even if u have concepts about the self, there would have to be a self in order to have that concept.
Non existent is when u take yourself to be something else other than Beingness
Who you are is (being )beyond wakefulness , sleep and emptiness
That's what we're here to discover 💚 Watching Rupert's video Being Aware of Being Aware might help 💜
Who you are is consciousness itself, consciousness is identified with the dream of form
So perfectly put 😊😊
Isn't the ego just a name for a way of thinking that is the opposite of love? It's self centeredness rather than selflessness etc.
Unfortunately, not at all. The ego can be just as selfless as it is as selfish in action. Often the ego uses selfless acts and beliefs that propagate its continuance. In a very rough sense, ego might be thought of as the opposite of love, but love is not a thought. Thoughts appear out of the Source that is love.
Everything Spira says here is on target. However, there are other subtleties involved. The point is that people have acted egotistically for SO LONG. Egotistical habits are persistent and ancient. Meaning: it's possible to say "The ego doesn't exist" PREMATURELY. In other words: You can say it without it having much effect in your daily life. You continue to act egotistically. So in some sense, although it doesn't exist (strictly speaking), your current lifestyle is testimony enough of its existence. Through consistent and dedicated practice only does Spira's statement acquire real life and validity. Spira is correct when he says that "The death of the ego" talk can perpetuate egotistic activity, but it's also true, unfortunately, that saying "The ego doesn't exist" prematurely can be a subtle and self-snug way of the ego as well (as if to say: "Oh, now I've got it!"). Spira's statement can all too easily become a conceptual garb behind which egotistical habits conceal themselves.
I love this. So helpful!
Thank you🤗
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ACIM is so similiar
I am nothing but thought. There's nothing else there. The only awareness would be the awareness my thought creates.
This incredibly easily debunked. You can stop thoughts. Awareness exists. Thoughts stop. Awareness exists. Thoughts change. Awareness exists.
Even more dramatically we see many cases where the body ceases. Awareness exists. But this might be a step too far for this discussion.
Either way, clearly Awareness is prior to thoughts.
Jesus is in Nunawading
If the ultimate nature of reality is oneness, no matter what happens, then why do “teachers” feel the need to “teach” about any of this. Isn’t any attempt to do this playing into duality? Just a question, no disrespect meant to Rupert or any of the other “teachers”. I’m just genuinely curious about this aspect.
It's not really teaching so much as pointing. I think Rupert would respond that he is not a guru nor a teacher.
It has to be taught trough relative truths, there's no other way.
There is no one teaching to no one and nothing is being taught.teaching is just happening within consciousness without me without you.it is happening out of love.at night dream as killing is happening within dream but no one is being killed in reality so in this live dream teaching is happening within dream but no one is teaching and no one is being taught.it is all dream it is all imagination.we all are living within a live dream of infinite consciousness(alive nothingness or alive knowing)
Why does anyone feel the need to do anything- why does a dancer feel the need to dance?
Conciousness is communicating to itself through the ‘appearance’ of duality 🙏❤️
This is a great video, World Ego Awareness Day is on May 11th. Less ego, more awareness.
1:21 the ego is not an entity, it is a belief and a feeling,…it’s an imaginary limitation of (infinite consciousness)
So simple yet so amazing that it’s just a single shift in perspective
Why does Conscious Awareness create an Imaginary Limitation called the "EGO" at all; and what part does the SOUL play in this???
Awareness which is infinite is longing to experience something other than itself and localizes itself into a human being in order to experience the finite adventure of being human-therefore it inherits all the faculties and limitations that a human being is carrying ,ego being one of them.The role of the soul is a very subtle matter to be discussed on line !
@@bildencarlia6924 Are you then saying the EGO is an "Imaginary Limitation" of the BODY; and doesn't the SOUL create the specifics of the MIND (Ego and Subconscious), BODY (Organs and Sensations), and WORLD, with CONSCIOUS AWARENESS POWERING AND GAINING FROM THE ENERGY VIBRATIONS OF OUR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES (Good, Bad or Ugly)????
@@theresaroberts8818 The Ego is an imaginary limitation of the human entity which in turn is the finite localization of the infinite awareness...
@@bildencarlia6924 Awareness doesn't long to experience something other than itself. For one, there is only awareness. It cannot experience anything other than itself. More importantly, all these illusions point to Awareness desiring to know itself.
Just as we, as microcosm of All That Is desire to know who we are more and more, Awareness desires to know itself more and more.
@@theresaroberts8818 You assume too much and in this way you create unnecessary questions...
Wow very nice
Everything is real
What I don't understand is how if we're all consciousness having a human experience do we continue having individuality? Like different preferences, beliefs, opinions. Surely they'd all disappear when you stop living as an ego because consciousness is all one. Does all individuality and anything unique disappear when we die?
I think the ego still exists, so a person keeps their preferences and personality and uniqueness.
You stop living as one but you still need one to function through in the world. If that makes sense.
I know a free being who is the diametric opposite of Rupert, for example. 😂 But they both know what they are and what they’re not.
On an even higher level, it doesn’t matter if the ego is there or not, if you have no identification with it whatsoever.
No, life clearly _wants_ us to be ourselves as unique individuals - that is how it learns and grows and evolves. One can have one's own personal preferences, beliefs and opinions in life without necessarily having a strong ego. The ego is more about one's attitude towards one's own relationship with other people generally. In particular, how strongly you identify with being separate and different from others; whether it be 'better' or 'worse' than them etc.
As long as we have desire,preferences, thoughts of me n mine we will continue to live as individuals.This is part of the egoic mind.
This is also the beauty of life n being an individual but our Reality is we are Consciousness.
Just knowing this can help start one on the journey to move from the small i to the Real l.
As long as the ego mind exists the world exists for you.
Yes, all individuality disappears when the ego is seen through as an illusion.
You experienced that many times already. Awakening from any dream.
@@GeertMeertens This is absolutely not true. Just as each person's body remains infinitely unique after awakening, one's mind also remains infinitely unique as well. The difference after awakening is that the localized mind-body is now experiencing reality without the filter of beliefs that the mind is our true nature.
But something must be dying in order for the real to shine through. What clouds the I ?
After watching the video, I completely agree with Rupert.
Perhaps Mr Rupert Spira is making a mistake by ignoring or belittling Ego - the Divine Mother of the Cosmos. Without her blessing / approval an individual will struggle terribly to realise his/her true original self aka infinite blissful Consciousness.
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The whole mess is ego centric. Mind's representative.
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Heavy Wisdom- You cannot kill something that never was. That's why trying to shrink the Ego doesn't work because just by doing that you are giving the ego it's life. Also the ego is really tricky because it works in "real" time as you are living which gives you the impression that it's there but all that's there is the lack of true understanding of your higher nature. So he's right just stay focus on the true self and universal consciousness will be reveled. The Ego is false n cusses anger,FALSE happiness, disolution, n all the emotions that the Ego wants you to believe is who n what you are. This is all bullshit because it's generated by a nothingness. Your Higher self is more real then you can Imagine. It's connected to everything n everyone n is in straight contact w/GOD.
invite your ego to a divine dinner....🌃
It would probably misbehave hahaha
Only ego exists.
Go think about the etymology of the word exist. Educate yourself
Being and Nothingness: An Essay in Phenomenological Ontology by Jean-Paul Sartre is something that helped paint a clearer picture if anyone needs some resourceful material to ponder upon
Well ego means I in Greek, so you're right All is ego 😉
@@jumperontheline the Greeks use the story of the charioteer and the five horses, to teach little kids that they self is not the i
Nope. Everything is ego
Christ overcomes sin and death of human rule
In a very real sense there is nothing to overcome. I am always awareness. I, by definition, am unchanging and untouched awareness. Anything that is overcome is just arising in the eternal now of awareness.
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