Scottish Guy Tries Pizza in Chicago For the First Time
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- čas přidán 28. 01. 2023
- I'm trying pizza in Chicago for the first time!
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In today's video, I'm in Chicago, we do a boat tour of the Chicago River to learn about the architecture of the Chicago skyline and skyscrapers, and then go to Gino's East Pizza for a slice of Chicago Pizza - Zábava
Most Chicagoans eat deep dish pizza as an occasional treat and when out-of-town company comes to visit. Our "everyday" pizza has a thin crust with a cracker-like consistency, sliced into squares instead of wedges. The square cut is called "tavern cut" or "party cut," ostensibly because it makes it easier to eat a piece of pizza with one hand, with your beer in the other!
I love the Deep Dish but I like the Tavern Style a little better
That's how I did it when I lived in the city. Deep dish is my favorite, but it was usually on my birthday, to celebrate or when friends came for a visit.
I love it in winter, hot and filling.
Speak for yourself! Go deep dish or go home!
Not true in the slightest. Deep dish all day, every day!
The quality and variety of the food in Chicago is mind blowing.
Gino's was one of my favorites growing up, along with Aurelio’s. Hope you made it up in to the Sears (sorry, won't ever be Willis for me!) tower on your trip!
I agree. It will always be Sears Tower for me, too!
+1. Sears Tower.
Always Sears Tower
The White Sox will always play at comiskey or simply Sox Park
Even though it's Metra The Rock Island will always be the Rock Island to the south suburbs
AND WE WILL NEVER EVER PUT KETCHUP ON A HOT DOG IF YOU'RE OVER 13 YEARS OLD
I love Aurelio's, too! Best thin crust pizza around. It's the sauce!
It will always be Sears Tower for me too. I live in a suburb in the metro area of Milwaukee
and when I was a kid and teenager in the 80's and 90's my dad drove though Chicago several
times a year with me to visit my aunt in Indianapolis and my grandparents in Michigan. I saw
the Sears Tower a lot back then from the back seat.
Those shots of the city shrouded in fog as the sun was setting behind it are stunning!
thanks :)
Gino's has a corn meal based crust - UNO's is the 'normal' flour based crust. UNO's is my favorite type of crust. Yes it takes about 45 mins to a hour to bake that crust right. Crust / cheese / toppings and sauce on top. Nothing like a real Chicago Pan Pizza Pie. UNO's original is also down town. There is a Gino's west out toward the large mall in the suburbs.
Don't let anyone give you grief about using a knife and fork with DD pizza. The point is to eat it not wear it.
Loved the mini tour before the pizza. The river tour is one of those rare tourist things that is well worth doing.
The best Chicago pizza is thin crust, tavern cut.
I went on that tour when I was a teen. Chicago is a cool city.
So very glad you got to see the beautiful city of Chicago. I think it’s the most architecturally beautiful city anywhere. So much more I’d like to comment on but I’ll save it for now.
Chi-Raq is a Schiff Hole
@@Zzus321 I’ll agree to some extent. The crime rate in Chicago is abysmal. I don’t even go into the city anymore. Used to live there. The architecture is beautiful nonetheless. So sad.
I'm from Chicago and I'm glad you enjoyed your visit to the city, Shaun. I agree with you that is a beautiful city. I'm not a big deep dish pizza fan, either. Try Chicago thin crust (I'd recommend Aurelio's).
Thank you for coming to our great city
Never been a big fan of authentic Chicago deep dish pizza, but there's so much amazing food in Chicago. I live a couple hours away and we used to drive up there every year for the Taste of Chicago festival to try all the food.
Portillos everything is amazing at Portillo‘s
They finally got a Giordano’s down here in Ohio and it’s amazing
The Taste of Chicago is amazing. I lived there for two years, and it was the best going to the Taste every year!
I went one year with my roommate and my sister. It was awesome. Except for the fried saganaki. It was so bad I grabbed my sister's beer to wash out the taste.
@@CortexNewsService that's too bad. The Parthenon used to do a great saganaki right at the table. OPA! It's probably something that doesn't work well in a festival situation...
you should read the Chicago Poem by Carl Sandberg. its the ode to the city he adopted as his home and also called it the city of big Shoulders often intercepted as Chicago being a work based city that has to burden itself with getting something done.
And read at least the introduction to the book "Augie March" by Saul Bellow, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature. "I am Chicago born ...."
The City of Big Shoulders.
River tour is spectacular. Highly recommend... but during spring through fall... highly recommend!💙🙂
I'm so glad you took the Architechtural Boat Tour, as it really explains a lot, and shows the city at its best. That you went to Gino's East surprised me, good as it is, it's not the usual tourist destination.
Chicago is the GOAT! Love that City of Broad Shoulders! ❤️
One of the places you need to go in Chicago is the Shedd Aquarium, place is just awesome
That pizza looks delicious.
I'm a North suburban Chicago girl about 30 minutes from downtown and I love getting summer jobs downtown and getting a jury summons where I have to take the day off of work to go downtown. For jury duty, I spend most of the day in a court room waiting to be interviewed, but I love walking around and it's great when I can work there over the summer.
I love to take the boat tours. I do one every few years. It never gets old. I grew up in the suburbs & had no clue about the rich architectural history in Chicago. I took an Art History class at Northern Ilinois U & was enlightened! I love living here. As Frank Sinatra sang, "My kind of town, Chicago is".
It’s been a while but the last deep dish I had looked like a pie with all sorts of goodness inside it.
+a freshly made 'Caesar salad' followed by copious amounts of 'cheap' red wine, to follow.. 🥺😓. 👍🏼
@@rjmwilliams1659 Chicago it's probably because deep dish pizza is not really Chicago style not even sure where they came up with that. Tavern style thin crust pizza is real Chicago style & way better then deep dish and NY style
Thanks for the small history of the city. Some of it I didn't know & I live in the USA. The pizza looked so delicious. I like cheese & sauce. You always have to eat it with a fork. Thanks for sharing. 😋✌️👍
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@@dannymiller4404 Iowa, USA
You've had a Chicago hot dog and Chicago pizza. All you need is an Italian beef sandwich to complete the triad.
Did you go to a blues club while you were in the city?
Yes, the Italian Beef sandwich is the biggest thing in Chicago food. Each is customized by how the customer wants it. Cheese is never put on these, the hot dogs, or the Maxwell Street polish. You don't put ketchup on any sausage in the Midwest either.
So, Shaun was around town this summer. If it was now he'd be screaming, "Get me back to sunny Scotland!" lol
I *love* Gino’s East. The crust is very distinctive. I love the cornmeal. So far, I’ve tried a couple different places (I’ve visited Chicago several times) and this one’s my favorite.
Gotta love the Chicago deep dish pizza man. It's absolutely amazing.
Thanks for all the info about the buildings, I have heard of them but not why some had the the names they do. It looks like a city worth visiting.
It's definitely worth visiting very cool city
Shaun taste of the town is a great segment. Appreciate the content 🙏
I think the fog made the town look amazing, like a fever dream. Very otherworldly. But lord you don't want to drive downtown in Chicago if you can avoid it, a freaking nightmare. I had to stay overnight once when my train got delayed. The cab driver almost got us killed repeatedly...
Glad you enjoyed Chicago. I grew up there,and when I go back to Chicago pizza is the first stop. If you enjoy a great gin &tonic or martini the place to go is the 360 bar right on the river at the Wedtin hotel. So many geat places tp see in Chicago .
Its a toss up for me whether it is pizza or Italian Beef when I return.
With Chicago-style pizza, it's possible to have a bite in your stomach with the cheese stretching so much that it's still attached to the piece sitting on the plate.
A shame it was still coldish when you came, it's nice and much warmer now in June. Gino's East, good choice.
Wow, thanks for sharing. Chicago looks gorgeous. My daughter visited several years ago and loved it.
It's such a cool city the winter's are rough though lol! But it is fantastic in the Spring!
@@shakarussanders9911 You know, I hope one day to be able to visit as well. I'll probably wait until spring.
@@mmc51660 Awesome! I'm sure you will have a great time 😊
Great video. I like the choice of music, fits nice. Be proud of being a ginger my friend. I was a ginger as a lad, but now I am grey and actually miss it.
Well done! As a Chicago area resident, I wish I could have pointed out some BETTER pizzas, AND OTHER foods that are distinctively CHICAGO to try! Long time follower... keep up the great work!
How to say you don't like Chicago style pizza without saying you don't like Chicago style pizza. 🤣
lol exactly.
I live in Chicago and don’t like it, and I’m not the only one. It’s not good.
You are the weakest link. Goodbye
I made it to this channel because of USA Kilts. It would be cool if you made your way through the Black Hills of South Dakota in my neck of the woods. Great vid.
You can seldom go wrong with a sunset cruise
Most people who live in Chicagoland eat tavern style pizza. Deep dish is a tourist thing.
I wouldn't call deep dish a tourist thing; back in the 60s when I lived on the West Side I often took dates down to the Loop for a movie and then over to Uno's or LaPiazza for deep dish. I called it date pizza. Most often back them I ate thin crust from Sorrento's on Madison St., Mike's on Harrison and my Dad often drove over to Lawndale to get a pizza from the Home Run Inn, which was just a little joint then.
Trust me, as a local, the Fog made your skyline images even better, and amazing. thank you for visiting Chicago.
Hey Sean 😁 when y'all get home watch "The Blues Brothers" you'll recognize many sights there in "the second city" 😂🤣😂 funny movie!
Chicago deep dish pizza is a great style of pizza. Been a while since I actually had pizza in Chicago though. Went to Pizzaria Duo - good place, great pizza but a really long line!
Chicago is so clean
Chicago deep dish pizza...yum, yum. Really good. Yummy for the tummy.
If you're still there, try another Chicago classic. The Italian Beef Sandwich.
The John Hancock Building was, when you mentioned it, in the background...the tall building with the two long antennas, for those who don't know. The Wrigley Building, Wrigley gum, and Wrigley Field (where the Chicago Cubs play) is all named after the same guy. The John Hancock building was (is) home to comedian/actor (was) Chris Farley and is (as far as I know, still) home to Oprah Winfrey and Jerry Springer. Enjoy the Pizza! Giordano's and Gino's East are my faves! Gino's is where my friends and I went after our prom, and we carved our names into our table, lol!
Gino's changed a lot since I last went there!
Oprah had or has a condo in Water Tower Place. She is guarded about very known home base of Montecito, completely private Hawaii and any other residences.
So glad you enjoyed my hometown. I had a friend in high school that lived in the Marina Towers. The 2 round buildings on the river! They had fantastic views!
I was thinking too bad it's foggy for your visit so you can't see as well. I've been to Chicago about a dozen times and I've never seen it like that so maybe you were lucky to see it in such a unique way.
My first time having CHI pizza was late evening going with a fraternity brother in 'fall 1973 - at UN0's. I knew nothing of it and had a great surprise in this place that looked like an old neighborhood bar-restaurant. Wish we had seen the owner, Ike Sewell.
My go-to place for several years back then was actually their nearby Pizzeria Due. But that Gino's East was also great. Last CHI pizza there I had was at Lou Malnatti's several years ago pre-C-V and pre Chi crime meltdown. How I miss it all/
that cloud/fog over the skyline was unusual - love taking the tours or just being in the city (i live here in Chicago) - Lou Malnati's or uno's/duo's
is where you want to get pizza for deep dish - the thin crust is also good but sometimes you just have to do pizza research! theres a great place on da sout side called Vito & Nick's- but pizza research takes a lot of time to do properly and theres a plethora of places so next time you come back here keep exploring - thanks for the video hope you enjoyed yourselves- it IS a terrific place - my kinda town!
I love seeing Scottish in Orlando at the theme parks. They are the brightest things on earth just before they burst into flames 🔥!!!!!
So glad you got to visit my beautiful city Chicago. Born and raised. You got my sub.
Gino's East is an excellent choice for deep dish.
The Chicago River connection is the transit betwern the Mississippi River system and the Great Lakes/St. Lawrence River system which makes water transportation over North America east of the continental divide easy and economically vital. I could embark on a small boat on Clark Fork near Yellowstone National Park and sail on water down to the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of St. Lawrence and Nova Scotia. Thousands of miles. That, along with the railroads and highway system makes America an economic powerhouse. The air transportation system is the icing on the cake for physical movement of goods and people. Chicago is at the core of this system. The rivers, railroads, highways and air hubs are all there.
It’s ok to love both New York and Chicago pizzas. Just about any region has its own special kind of pizza and they are all delish. Shaun, does Scotland have a pizza? ❤
Windy City came about other established city’s on the East (NY, Philly, Boston, Baltimore) thought the Chicago civic leaders were “blowing hot air” and boosting the city. Chicago was coming of age and letting the entire US know about it at that time.
You should try Chicago thin crust pizza tooo… if you’re ever in Clearwater Florida I’ll take you to my Favorite… Paul’s Chicago Pizza🥰
I've always thought that Chicago has one of the most beautiful skylines in the world.
That lighthouse you passed on the boat tour is completely automated. Not too many years ago, someone bought the lower section and renovated it into a home. He had to boat out to his home and back. Eventually, it became too much of a hassle and he sometimes was stuck in the house or on the shore due to weather. He ended up selling it and moving to someplace more accessible.
I adore Chicago, so glad you got to see it.
Shaun, have you ever heard that Chicago is where the world's first skyscraper was built? It was back in 1884. I finally took this tour about 1.5 years ago, even though I only live about 1.5 hours away.
Gotta come to Chicago in the summer! Best summer city in the country.
Holy crud I didn’t even see you posted this till now!! Damn!! I’m so glad you came! Great video my man. Much love from Chicago. Don’t ever come here during lollapalooza haha traffic gets nuts. Unless you obviously plan to attend it. If you are back, give a shout. I’ll gladly tell you spots to visit. Not just in downtown it’s self. There’s more to here. Also literally that shot of you by the Chicago theater and Walgreens is great since I walk there from up the station and to that alley between those buildings for work daily!! Great video my guy 🔥 also gotta try giordanos and pequods! Great pizza. Legen…dary!
Thank you going to my favorite place in my home city as well ❣
Chicago pizza is great, but I have to confess a preference for NY style pizza. It's just so amazing. Just to say, I grew up in Houston, so I'm unbiased.
Deep dish pizza is not the only Chicago style pizza. In fact on a general regular basis most Chicagoans don’t eat deep dish we eat Tavern style Pizza which is a thin crust pizza just like New York pizza. I’ve had both but I prefer the Chicago version. That being said I am biased because I was born in Chicago and lived in the Chicago area my most of life. It’s just that the with Chicago tavern pizza The crust seems crisper while the New York pizza crust is all floppy and you have to fold the pizza up; it’s messy and a bit greasier too. But in the end it’s not the city you get the pizza from it’s the pizzeria you get the pizza from.
@@pjschmid2251 👏
Detroit style Pizza beats them all hands down.
@@pjschmid2251 but that's the whats make nyc pizza iconic. Is holding and folding the pizza traditionally thats how you eat of pizza. The crust can be crustier and it still can be fold. It's meant to finger food and oily only fancy folks want change things make all proper way to eat it.
@@wakeupstopsleeping6300 oh you still pick up Chicago thin crust pizza you just don’t have to fold it in half for it not to flop down and drip grease all over; you just pick it up and eat it
Oh.. it can get pretty weather windy there too.
Did you like the pizza? I personally lean more towards NY Style pizza. The only Chicago Style Deep Dish Pizza that I have liked is Pizzeria Uno's Classic Cheese & Tomato.
I’m from metropolitan New York and I love Pizzeria Uno which I had for the first time at university in upstate New York.
Geno's East! I have been there my friend! Very good pizza!!
Chicago looks beautiful. The pizza looks delicious. But it's to cold and windy.
I loved the river architecture tour! Did you go through the lock? First time I ate at Gino's East was in the late 70's !
When you come back to Chicago, you must try Chicago Pizza & Oven Grinders Co. They do the best pizza pot pie - their take on Chicago Deep Dish. 🍕❤
Giordano's is my go-to anytime I'm in Chicago
We have a Pizza Emporium here in Alabama 😎 called Mater's......the Better Boy....and Better Girl....are a thick and loaded Pie That is memorable.....😎 We had a Giovanni in Virginia where I grew up in the hills of Virginia.... also memorable....
I’m so glad you liked my hometown. I wish I would’ve known you were here I live downtown. I could’ve tried to meet up with you.
Haha! Enjoy my Scottish friens! Thanks for the Entertainment!
The real best food from Chicago is the Italian Beef sandwich. I love Chicago Deep Dish, but Italian Beef is just at another level. It makes Phily Cheesesteak seem tame in comparison.
I love deep dish pizza!
*The Sears Tower (Willis Tower) can still get you up higher than any other building in America thanks to its 103rd-floor observatory.* 😉
There's a website that lets you compare the size of two skyscrapers and Sears Tower is clearly taller than the new World Trade Center. I don't count antennas as "building" 😂
Ginos east i think is deep deep dish. It was started by cabbies. Locals like loumanatis. My personal favorite is peaquods (which incorporates Detroit style cheese crust) and its more pan then deep dish.
I don't know who claims ownership of thin crust Pizza...but that's my favorite style.
@@Botoburst Really thin, and kinda crispy is claimed by St. Louis, Missouri. The big triangle slices that are thin and floppy is New York style.
In Chicago, deep dish is known as tourist pizza. It's delicious, but make sure to try out the regular stuff at other places too. 😊
I agree...I grew up in Chicago--and never had the deep dish pizza. Didn't even know it existed. We preferred the regular thin crust types, from Palermo's, etc. My first job as a teenager was at Onesti's pizza. It was carry-out/delivery only--and SO good. It was family-owned and probably doesn't exist anymore--as this was decades ago.
No it's not. I won't order thin crust unless I'm outside Chicago because nobody else can make deep dish.
Ate deep dish all the time in high school. Not biased against eating other kinds of pizza, though😋
You're making me hungry!!
Use to live in chicago and it has amazing skyscrapers. and the Wrigley building isnt art deco , it's from the 20s art deco is 30's.
Hey buddy! Just a little, quick update on a city you visited recently. Surprisingly, San Antonio had some snow today, despite being unbelievably hot while y’all visited a little while back. I know it’s not exactly related to Chicago, but I thought I’d just share that info real quick. Cheers you two!! Stay awesome!!
Also… I’ve had a lot of fun in Chicago too! Don’t pass up the opportunities!
First of all this was beautifully shot and edited. And it still surprises me I can learn more from someone outside of United States then I did in school. Not living in Illinois I wonder what people from Chicago think is a great pizza since there are very different Frome each other
Gino's is among the best. So is Lou Malnati's.
Deep dish is great, but my favorite is the Chicago thin crust. Its chief characteristics are a slightly sweeter tomato sauce, a cracker-like crust with a delightful crunch, and it is cut party-style in two-inch squares. The traditional topping (and my favorite) is just sausage and cheese, but you can have just about anything put on top. However, load up too much, and it’ll slide off since there is a lot of sauce under the cheese and toppings. Most locals tend to order thin crust and keep the deep dish for when out with friends or family, especially those from out of town.
@@kathyastrom1315 I've always pictured people from Chicago ordering deep dishes most of the time rather then thin crust..
@@kathyastrom1315 Couldn't agree more!
@@lout3921 As stated, for most Chicagoans, deep dish is a special event type pizza. Chicago thin crust pizzas are the best, and can be bought at hundreds of little local pizzerias.
@🏴Shaun
Since my friend's birthday passed a few weeks ago and we ordered a Giordanos pizza 🍕 which we were nostalgic for
Ha, yeah, I was just thinking as I was watching, I wouldnt be ordering cheese sticks if I was ordering a chicago style pizza. 😂
The golden hour is not making me look ginger 😭
Maybe I should try the Scottish sunset 🥰
New York and Chicago were the 2 biggest cities of the US for a long time (from the 1890's to the 1950's). LA only took over as the second biggest city in the country in the 1960's. And even then, LA never felt like a big city like Chicago or NY, rather one giant suburban strip mall. So another nickname for Chicago is "Second City". There's quite the cultural rivalry between the two (NY and Chi). One of the big points of contention is pizza. New Yorkers call Chicago Pizza "Cheese Casserole" while Chicagoans call New York Pizza "Cheese on a cracker". John Stewart (a dyed in the wool New Yorker) has a famous rant about Chicago Pizza: czcams.com/video/pBLVjyTtkMc/video.html that touches on a lot of the rivaly.
I don't consider most of LA as a real city (I grew up in that area). In reality, it's a grouping of small cities and towns that had to join Los Angeles to get water rights from the LA water basin.
The only people who thinks there’s a rivalry between nyc and Chicago are people from Chicago. Stop it
Yo g when u talk about the willis tower you show a shot of the john hancock i mean i get it i mixed it up as a kid they do look alike
Cheese, cheese and more cheese 😍
At 5:18 you're just past where one of the Bacinos' Pizza locations used to be. Great stuffed pizza with a butter crust. Gino's East used to be great until they moved out of the old building on that site and moved to the tourist district. When they moved back to the old site, but into the newer building, it was never the same again.
This is very interesting, and news to me here in NYC. I only visited a few times since some CHI college time in the mid 70s and missed all that.
Is that any reason when I went to that Gino's East just a few years back, the truly amazing smell, nearly a turn-on, was gone! The pizza was flatter/ not as deep. In 1997 approx., I went to a small Gino's East outpost somewhere towards N and got the real, incredibly tall one, in a small size. Seems that is no more.
That is why one visit a couple of years later, i went to Lou Malnatti's.
@@stevenj2380 I asked people in the restaurant industry because I was worried I was being too subjective. They said that Gino's no longer has their blackened, seasoned pizza pans and they didn't move their old pizza ovens. That alone can make a significant difference. The thinner volume of pizza ingredients may be a cost-saving effort, but that's pure conjecture on my part.
"I'm not a cheese fan." I am asking you firmly to leave this country. Haha, kidding aside, this looked like such a fun trip. I actually prefer New York style over deep dish (for the opposite reason reason from you, I like adequate cheese, but little sauce). For a hilarious comparison of New York vs. Chicago style pizza, you should check out Jon Stewart (a popular US comedian/late night TV host from New York) absolutely rip into how deep dish is not real pizza. I'm still a fan of deep dish, but he goes hard. From Jewish to Italian 0.7 seconds, it's hysterical. Love these videos, cheers guys! EDIT: For the video in question, just search "Jon Stewart pizza rant" on CZcams if you wanna see it.
It needs to be said that the real Chicago pizza, that overwhelmingly eaten in the neighborhoods and burbs ( many burbs are stronger in old school Chicago folkways than much of the city now is) is thin crackerish crust cut in squares. Tourists should be encouraged to go to the South Side and south and western burbs for real Chicago pizza from places like Phil's, Aurelio's, Beggar's, Palermo's, Roberto's, Q's and such. Riccobene's does excellent pizza in several styles as well as South Side breaded steak sandwiches. Malnati's does an excellent old neighborhood thin crust as well as the deep dish; if you can hit only one pizza joint a Malnati's will let you enjoy both types.
I had family just on the other side of the Illinois-Indiana border back in the day. And by "just on the other side" I mean that the State Line was literally at the end of their neighborhood just a few hundred meters from their house. But my point is that we used to go downtown Chicago all the time when we'd visit them. I'm talking back in the 80s for the most part. We'd visit the museums the most. We never toured the River area, though. Don't really know why. We'd stick to the outskirts of the city along the lake shore. Lotta new buildings have been built there since I was there last it seems.
The river has enjoyed a big renaissance since the 1980s. It’s been cleaned up a lot since then, and new skyscrapers as well as converted older warehouses/condos line the banks, as does a wonderful river walk along the main branch downtown.
Yeah, the river was a cess pool back in the 80s. Now people are there in kayaks, lol.
If you're not a fan of too much cheese. Head to Detroit and look for Buddy's Pizza. Deep dish Detroit style pizza. It is crazy good!
I know Scots are known for their bravery but dipping your toes in the pizza wars was beyond brave, it's masochistic. Is pizza made in a pan still a pizza? Is pizza you have to fold into a sandwich still a pizza? White sauce, pineapple, stuffed, and all the other permutations, are they still pizza? LOL, people lose their minds defending their style of pizza as the best style, or the only style, of pizza. I can have favorites without saying the others don't count, I'm not that arrogant or myopic. Note: For the record, my favorite of all time is Gino's East deep dish pepperoni. Really glad you had a good time in Chicago (my home town).
I am surprised you didn't mention Catherine O'Leary
Shaun - I’d really like to meet you the next time you’re in Chicago! Any plans to return?
Tomatoes sauce isn’t really a “topping” as usually you have to pay extra for “toppings”. Also with Chicago style toppings are usually not layered on top but inside so if you order pepperoni or sausage or mushrooms, you don’t see them until you cut into it. There’s a pizza called a white pie that doesn’t have tomatoes but I feel that tomato sauce & cheese are essential to pizza like the dough not an extra that can be added on top after the pizza had been made.
Ginos East. That is the *correct* place to eat *correct* pizza. Not wafer thin, dorito-shaped spineless wimpy flaccid NY pizza, but real pizza.
My first trip was in 1979.