Ciaron Smith Kimi may have fans but in terms of skill he's long past his best days. He lucked out on a championship which he otherwise would have never had and is just basically in F1 for the money now. There is no fire or hunger or challenge in him left. He's like Ferrari's placeholder. Someone they can put in the seat until someone better comes along. Sacked when Alonso joined and then sacked again when Leclerc joined
@@rumblefish9 Alonso brought santander to Ferrari And that was the real reason why kimi left Ferrari, And kimi was fighting championship with mclaren few times so he Is talented driver not just lucky:D Your wrong about the hunger, just look him now racing In midfield beating younger drivers And stuff. The problem never was with kimi, massa or Alonso it was always Ferrari Who fucked up things.
Alonso is. He made both Raikkonen and Massa look rubbish at Ferrari and is handily outperforming Vandoorne who won the GP2 championship before coming into f1. The only single seater championships Piquet Jnr won were a couple F3 titles - the SA and Brittish competitions.
ΣΔΜ that's why I can't understand why people can say Alonso isn't that good. He dominated Raikkonen, (Only in Spa Kimi was faster) average speed difference was way more compared to Vettel as team-mates. Alonso is and has been the best driver since 2005. Hamilton is the quickest but makes mistakes and still has a few races per year where hes off the pace. That never happens with Alonso. All this means is that Trulli might have been the most underrated driver of all time! As he beat Alonso on many occasions lol
Basically Renault took the title away from Ferrari, which is really a shame because Massa deserved the 2008 title. Had he won that race, as he was comfortably ahead, the title would've been his.
+AppetiteForAwesome Whether or not that incident had happened at the Ferrari pit box, had the race been invalidated as it arguably should have been considering the cheating and the fraud that was committed and the effect they had on the results, Massa would (and should) have been 2008 champion. It's not like Renault's actions just affected Renault. The whole race was 'contaminated' as a result.
Massa also had a shocker at Silverstone that year too. Plus was handed a victory by the FIA in Belgium. Did feel sorry for him in Germany in 2010 though, exactly 12 months after his accident in Budapest and it was a dick move from Ferrari making him give up a race victory that day, he was never quite the same after that.
eh - I disagree. there had been three teams at singapore in 2008 that had to perform double pitstops on lap 17 - McLaren, Toro Rosso and Ferrari. two teams got it going flawlessly, one team screwed it up. the risk to fall victim to a desastrous pit stop had been exactly the same for McLaren and Lewis Hamilton, but they handled it.
+AKATube True, and Im enjoying every moment to see Alonso in a car/team that is unlikely to be anywhere in championship in near future atleast xP Dont get me wrong, he is great driver, but there is so much of this crap behind him, and most of it he doesnt even feel any shame of, that I just feel utter disgust for this guy.
***** I disliked Alonso way before that....all what happend in 2007, this Crashgate, Germany 2010.... Also I have no difficulties to admit that Alonso did beat Kimi by clear margin in 2014, he could take much more out of that crappy car that Kimi could, and Vettel did the same with better car last year. But the fact remains that Kimi is still Ferrari's latest champion, Alonso got two shots with Ferrari and failed both times, and now he is stuck with team that he is unlikely to achieve anything, until his career is over...and Im gonna enjoy very much watching that :D
Balnazzardi Alonso may be a better driver, but he still has the dirtiest record out of all the current champions in the field. His current fate is most deserved.
@@Turigemo massa had to retire in 2 consecutive grand prix, hamilton got closer to him at the end of the championship and it was down to brazil, the rain came in the last laps hamilton and massa changed to wet tires but glock didnt so in the last corner hamilton overtook glock and he won it, massa deserved it more tbh
Hold on a minute here. I’m not familiar with this story... But a driver threw himself into the wall to give his team mate a leg up? Risking injury to himself/potentially others - is quite simply fucking mad.
This race made me think of Massa. If only Massa did not have that pit stop accident, he would have been world champion. I so wish he was world champion. I think he really deserved it and since his accident, he has never been the same. Now, as of 1 week before the 2014 Melbourne F1 GP, Williams are looking good in testing and are reliable thus far. I hope and feel as though this season with all the changes will be very exciting and we'll see other drivers making podiums this year. Red Bull are unreliable in the testing so far. We will see. I'll come back in December and see how the year panned out.
What would you want him to say? he did say he still count it because he performed well and did no mistakes. If your boss is a fucking cheater you don't have to assume his fault, don't you?
"I think that's an interpretation" It was probably Alonso's idea. He's had every team boss he's ever raced for by the neck except at McLaren, where he suffered.
When I was little I was a huge Alonso fan. I'm from Spain, and part of my passion for racing comes from seeing Alonso win that two world champions. The reality is Spanish TV hid that this victory was fair. They just explained what it happened, but for example I dont remember seeing that interview to Alonso. Maybe to keep the audience they didnt want to destroy Alonso's image here.
+NyW Gaming I'm prepared to give Alonso the benefit of the doubt on whether or not he knew. He didn't need to know what his team had planned for the strategy to work. I don't like him but I do respect him.
+PassiveSmoking Either way whether he did or didnt know (and I seriously doubt how he could have not been informed), the fact that he didnt show any shame about that victory even year later when the truth had came out.....ye, Im willing to say that he is one of the best drivers out there, but I dont like him one bit and certainly dont feel sorry for him, when he lost the championship 2 times with Ferrari or that he is now struggling to win anymore races with Mclaren-Honda.
@@PassiveSmoking he would have known considering the fuel load he was given starting from 15th at a new street circuit which didn’t have many overtaking opportunities.
Alonso en ningun momento sabia lo que iba a pasar, de verdad piensas que Alonso iba a permitir eso? Si es uno de los conductores mas limpio y respetuoso de la parrilla?
I don’t understand why he was the one to get banned for life though, since he only knew about the plan but didn’t take part in it, unlike that engineer.
It's funny, because Briatore had been wanted on fraud charges in Italy in the 1980s, and for scams and schemes which involved rigging card games. How they allowed this man to participate in Formula One racing at any level, knowing that he had such a history in the first place, is beyond appalling, and would never have happened in any other part of the 'real' world.
For the entirety of his career briatore has been a cheat, first at Benetton in 1994-95, and then at Renault. I'm not surprised to hear that he cheated before f1 too
Props to Piquet. He was the one that came forward about it. Renault acted like assholes to him, so he just came out with his evidence. Takes balls to do that.
"No fine for them". "The penalty for Renault is disqualification but suspended for two years". Translation: We'd be forced to sanction them and invalidate the race because the Championship was affected and its integrity was affected, but, since a British driver, Hamilton, in a British team, McLaren, would lose, we'll just let it go.
You can hear in his voice that his honest opinion is something completely different. Whether he was involved in it or not, it's despicable that he won't just say it was wrong and walk away. Piquet may have agreed to doing it because he believed it might help save his career. But Alonso, a double world champion, could've gotten a drive in basicly any other team if he had walked away from Renault right when he found out.
For sure he knew. In 2008, as far as i remember the fuel that you qualified, you had to start the race. Fernando qualified with a small quantity of fuel witch meant that he had to stop very early on the race, fill up his petrol tank and go to the end with a set of tires. In the end, to make that strategy works, something had to happen and alonso isn't a dumb, he knew that something had to happen in order to make the strategy works.
Rodrigo Luiz Do you really believe what you say?Just wondering... Though he has learnt from these tough states like spy gate, crash gate, germany 2010. F1 would not had this spirit and passion of never giving up without Alonso's presence. Great driver, even greater and kind man. I don't want to believe he did it, but if, it's pretty shame for then.
Emma Andreou , if he is as smart as he claims, he would be at least suspicious of a very agressive strategy without a very competetive car. Don't ve folled with the thought "kind" of a driver that you see. I mean, there isn´t a kind driver. All the greatest had to be very agressive and take a lot of questionable acts. If a driver has to basically destroy his team mate to win or to looking good to fans and media, you can bet, they will.
Rodrigo Luiz I didn't call him a kind driver. I only said he is a kind man as a whole in his life especially the recent years. It makes me an impression that Piquet said Alonso was innocent. He would say sth if he knew, but I wonder why to "protect" Fernando... What happend has happend, he remains this maverick and passionate driver, if you think about his age and his state in the last years. I really like him as lots of people do and i will do it for a long time. Thanks for your time!
In recent years he knew the car he had and he had no chance to win. I mean, there are a lot of perspective we can see this, and now he is trying to get some PR over him, and i don´t see anything wrong with that.
i love how piquet got away with it he was able to restart his career in nascar and now is looking more and more likely to be in the cup series full time
renault is a part of formula 1. any bad action on their part reflects the sport as a whole. this was clear race fixing and it should've been completely annulled. alonso should not keep his victory and no driver who participated should keep their points (write the race off the season completely) but since doing so would have meant stripping hamilton of the title it wasn't done.
+Vitor Atomik Mota - yes, one year later, stripping hamilton of the title would be completely unfair. that's why shit like this needs to be investigated. hamilton basically won the title largely thanks to the results of a scripted race.
Imagine, if Piquet hadn't say anything about Renault's deceive, Singapore gp 2008 would have been still considered as a clear race with a set of unbelievable situations but based on pure strategy, without frauds. People and fans would have been deceived up to now!
@@russian5470 Hamilton is always the first to jump on the radio and complain about "dangerous driving" every time someone comes within 100 feet of his car.
I never understood why the Renault team went through such great lengths to fix the race for Alonso, I mean he wasn't exactly fighting for a World Championship at the time, was he?
What you guys all forget is that most of the top teams did team orders stuff similar to this and sometimes drivers did it on their own too. So stop saying Renault is a cheating team because less than 5 people were involved in that kind of cheating and not the team in itself. Yes i'm quite sure Alonso knew about that but you guys all forget that most of the top drivers did some very nasty moves to get a win or a championship: i am french and i love Prost but i admit he deliberately took himself out with Senna (i love him too) for the 1989 WC in the chicane, the following year Senna took Prost and himself out in the first corner in order to win the 1990 WC and he admitted it, in 1994 Schumi (i love him aswell) deliberately turned early to hit Hill causing them to retire and Schumi got the 1994 WC as a result, he tried to do the same in 1997 to Villeneuve but failed and Villeneuve won the 1997 WC and those are championship material stuff not only a race win even if it changed a lot of things... We all know that team orders to fix a win or a championship already happened and it will sadly remain, some are just very easy to see like Singapore 08 or Germany 10 but remember Austria 01 and 02 for example, or there is Jordan in Belgium 98 and a lot of other known or unknown shit like this that happen every year, due to team orders or deliberate actions by drivers....
It should be pointed out though that although Fernando won that race through Piquet's crash there are other factors that need to be considered 1) The race still needed winning. Fernando could easily have done a 'Kimi' and thrown it in the wall 2) Mark Webber could have won if he didn't have a technical problem with his Red Bul
We must remember that the year before Senna did that, there was the incident where Prost and him crashed at Suzuka, in 1989. At that time, they were on the same team, Mclaren. And in Senna's defense, it looked obvious that Prost caused the accident in 1989, so he felt like he needed to get back at him. But, you're right about the fact that people do all sorts of crap in their favor - Prost and somewhat Senna.
Here's what i don't understand. We all know what happened now that it's been 6 years of that story, but anyway, Alonso has kept that victory. It's rubbish, i don't think it matters if he had knowledge of the whole ploy or not.. the team manufactured the win,
You are quite right on your comment. However, Senna had a strong reason to do what he did then, in Suzuka. What had happened a year before that incident was probably a strong one. Secondly, after starting on pole, they had put him out on the dirty part of the track when every pilot knew it wasn't a fair decision. That could also be the reason people don't call Senna a bad sportsman.
i lost half my respect for Alonso after hungary 2007 i lost the other half for Alonso after Crashgate. Thank god that Vettel stoped Alonso in 2010 and 2012
@@noobednatherium4082 but Alonso is the one that made it public with his frustrations in being beaten by a rookie with how he acted in USA and then with Hungary
I love how this is specifically made by the BBC to make look Alonso bad even though it's been proved multiple times that Fernando had nothing to do with anything. Pathetic.
@SearchRodge I think the same. Although Alonso was a bit angry on Lewis in 2008 because how he was treated in Mclaren in 2007. But Alonso didn't really have any major conflicts with Hamilton. There is the talks about how Alonso and Hamilton didn't get along in 2007 but it was more like how Alonso and Ron Dennis didn't get along. The conflict was between them, not Alonso and Hamilton.
+Erluismawy and what "amazing" win that was, rigged by his team-boss and manager....and he surely knew about the plan himself as well.....well luckily karma bite him back, first in Ferrari (no championships and now in Mclaren (the team is not able to fight for even wins in near future)...and Im enjoying every bit of it, deserves him right xD
In Turkey RedBull tried to make Teamorder, so what are you talking about? Where Alonso asks for Team order in Hockenheim? "This is redicilous" Alonso said after the team make him clear, that he not should attack Massa.
Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crashed his car in an attempt to fix the result of the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, per the orders of someone within the team. This crash helped team mate Fernando Alonso win the race and an argument could be made that it cost Felipe Massa the World Championship
I still can't believe someone would order or suggest a driver crash cos Nelson could had really hurt himself and other. I think he had pressure from the top man and as team boss u r fully responsible. Yeah was ironic that crash for Romain
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You should know that by being a racing driver, you are under risk all the time. and if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you no longer a racing driver because we are competing, we are competing to win, and the main motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, its not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th, I race to Win, as long as I feel its possible - Ayrton Senna
These days, they wouldn't even need a crash to bring out a safety car. All they would need is a driver to fart on the main straight and they would red flag it.
But he wouldn’t have been in that position to win without piquet crashing. Before alonso made his stop he’d just past Trulli who was lapping incredibly slowly which meant Alonso might not have even scored points if the crash didn’t happen
@@tombardsley3081 Alonso had real pace that day and pulled away after he took the lead by miles. He deserved to get onto the podium if the scandal didn't happen, as he started 15th.
@@noobednatherium4082 he only got that far up the field cos of the safety car and not having to pit (since back then the pitlane was closed when it was initially deployed and only after the field bunched was when it was opened so drivers that hadn't pitted lost out massively whilst those that had pitted before gained hugely). It's also why Rosberg who was leading at the restart and kubica got stop go penalties as they pitted when it was closed as they were pretty much out of fuel. Without Renault fixing , Alonso would have been nowhere near the podium (he was miles behind after passing trulli)
@@noobednatherium4082 he only got to the front because of the safety car! Did you actually watch the race? Alonso was 51 seconds behind the leader (more than that after making the pit stop) after just 10 laps of the race. That’s almost 2 pit stops behind with refuelling. There’s no way he would have caught that up and past that many cars under normal circumstances unless there was a safety car. It’s also hard to overtake in Singapore. Plus Massa had the pitstop issue, Hamilton and raikkonen got stuck in traffic plus Massa pit stop issue screwed raikkonen behind both red bulls and as I mentioned before Kubica had the penalty. Before Rosberg served his penalty, Rosberg was over 20 seconds clear of Alonso, and Alonso was stuck behind fisichella in the slowest car on the grid (force India) and couldn’t get past him until the force India made his first pit stop. Alonso was put in the position to win because of Renault’s cheating
Massa would be an World Champion if wasn't for that... He was not only leading that race before the SC (and then we all know what happened, the pit stop problem), as if this race were bannished, he would also be the World Champion for that year... And the funny thing is that everybody praises Alonso, when he actually knew about it all and just didn't get penalized. Alonso is the kind of guy that have to praise himself to be above the others, always talking bad things about the other drivers and good things about himself.
As we all know, Renault are entering Formula 1 as a works team in 2016 for the first time since 2008. As an F1 fan through-and-through, the 'Crashgate' cheat is still fresh in the sport. People are going to say, 'Renault F1 team, this is their first season as a works team since 2008, their highlight of that year was a cheat.' No team wants to have that on their card. I still have no sympathy for them, when they put lives at risk in order to win a race, it's unforgivable.
+Jackal Fox They were still in the sport in 2010 your talking out of your ass mate, at the end of 2009 they sold most the company but kept a share and then sold it completely at the end of 2010
about team orders, I really don't care how many team orders examples you could give me, in 2010 it was against the rules, and there is actually a few a VERY few times where the driver ASK the team to move the other driver out of the way. thank you for your time
I love the fact that a scheme between Piquet and Simmons/Briatore ends up with comments on how much people hate Alonso. It's like Spygate, a deal between a McLaren engineer and a Ferrari engineer ends up with 'God I hate Alonso' when all he did was threaten to come clean about it, I love how some peoples minds work.
He lied about his involvement with spy gate . Hence why he got the stick for it. Plus he would have been involved in this scheme given that it was planned to benefit him in the race
Quite ironic that nico said you will always find people that do things Rubbish, look at him today in Germany with verstappen and Austria with Hamilton!
Or with Verstappen at Germany. "I was in full lock, I could not steer anymore" when it was clear from the video he did not even start to steer until he was almost off the damn track. Hilarious.
Nothing wrong with Germany, even anti-Rosberg Brundle said as much, Verstappen left himself on the outside for a gap that was never going to exist instead of braking and cutting under Rosberg so he could claim he got pushed off the track. Weird how every decision started going Verstappen's way after Heinekken started sponsoring F1 as well... Austria was Nico's corner to dictate the line as well but Hamilton decided he wasn't going to let Nico push him out as he had done to Nico so often and turned in.
Whether Alonso knew or not about that, it deeply saddens me. Alonso was my favourite driver when I was only a boy. I was genuinely happy to see him win not once, but twice the driver championship. I even had tears in my eyes when I saw him for real in the 2007 Belgium Grand Prix at Spa Francorchamps (I was 8 at the time) and I cried when he didn't win the race (he finished 3rd). In 2008, I started to loose hope when I saw him not winning any race... and then I heard there would be a race at night, in Singapore. For me it was awesome and truly special at the time so I was very excited at the idea of seeing such a race. I can't tell you how much I was happy when Alonso won this race. Everything was perfect... and then, this scandal appeared. I don't know whether Fernando knew or was involved in that scandal and I want to believe he wasn't. After his 1st year at Ferrari, I stopped watching F1 because it wasn't broadcasted for free anymore in my country, but I only started to watch it again until very recently. I learned about all the shit he's been through with his last teams and I hope that things will get better for him. What I want to say to you all, is that I don't think we will ever know the truth about the fact that he was aware of that fix unless maybe if he decide to reveal what he knew for real at the time back then. So please, let's not spread more hatred, more curse and more "I enjoy seeing him losing more than other drivers winning" kind of bullshit because that is just childish. I totally understand that you guys can believe him as guilty (and I wouldn't be surprised if he was, considering the magnitude of the scandal) but as I said, we should all move on because it was 10 years ago and focus on the future of Formula 1.
Alonso had real pace that day and pulled away after he took the lead by miles. He deserved to get onto the podium if the scandal didn't happen, as he started 15th.
That's true, it was the team, for what WE know but the famous "this is Ridiculous" make me rethink a lot indeed. Alonso had shown his cheater face so many times I wouldn't be surprise he had something to do with this
Flavio Briatore was also suspected of being involved in the illegal use of software to control active suspension systems at Benetton. But it could not be proved. Senna knew Benetton were cheating but Williams did not raise the issue with the FiA. Verstappen confirmed this later with Briatore .... :(
Wow. Utterly disgusted by Alonso's response on the legitimacy of his victory. Hate to see a great team like McLaren struggle but the silver lining is that they're bringing Alonso down with them!
Alonso does not deserve this situation in McLaren. Get over it. It was 10 years ago. If Alonso had anything to pay for, he did it with the lost titles in Ferrari. He became more mature with time...
I bet 99% ppl who are commenting against alonso dont even know what's the actual story and who's the culprit......I guess Alonso haters are inevitably from one country..and this hate is endemic to this place..only one country....John bull you got me right..Grow up guys
hi there. in 90 pole position was not moved, it was on the same side since 87, when Suzuka returned to the F1 calendar. there´s footage of the 88 and 89 races in the Senna movie as well, where Senna was on pole on the same side and failed both starts to Prost. the return of a favor part i agree
NaujFormula1 Obviosuly Kimi has problems with car, atleast he can race a good car to wins, Alonso can only seem good in shit cars that he can't develop because he hasn't got any developing skills or intelligence like true champions have.
NaujFormula1 2006 was a good season, 2005 too but to be honest Kimi would have won the championship if the damn McLaren hadn't been so unreliable, and the racer in him made him make the wrong decision in Nurburgring, but that showed to me atleast he has the passion that guys like Senna, Prost and Fangio had, not just cold and calculative.
Victory was not handed to Alonso. The crash probably made it more accessible, but still he had to drive more than 35 laps and stay ahead without crashing on a fast street circuit. Sorry for the haters but that does not take anything away for the driver skills. If you hate him that much why comment on videos related to his career?
No, but I can say that the pitstop wouldn't have been made under such stressful conditions, thus referencing to the safety car phase which made ALL the cars enter the pit. Ferrari had no other choice but to make a storming pit-stop - firstly, because they wanted to keep Massa ahead and secondly, because Raikkonen entered the pit at the same time and was losing a lot of places by waiting (and therefore losing a lot of time) directly behind Massa.
The Romain Grosjean crash was hilarious lol
Grosjean's driving in general is hilarious
When Grosjean started his crash fest
Now he's a crashing meme god
It was Ericsson hit him.
I was nearly like that it so out of order till saw you posted 6 years ago 😂😂
Sums up why Kimi has so many fans. The only non-controversial super star in the 2000s.
Ciaron Smith he does what many finns do, drink a lot and drive like hell
He pushed a cameraman once 😂😂
Ciaron Smith Kimi may have fans but in terms of skill he's long past his best days. He lucked out on a championship which he otherwise would have never had and is just basically in F1 for the money now. There is no fire or hunger or challenge in him left. He's like Ferrari's placeholder. Someone they can put in the seat until someone better comes along. Sacked when Alonso joined and then sacked again when Leclerc joined
He took a shit during the post race interviews 😂 was way more important to him and that's why we love him
@@rumblefish9 Alonso brought santander to Ferrari And that was the real reason why kimi left Ferrari, And kimi was fighting championship with mclaren few times so he Is talented driver not just lucky:D
Your wrong about the hunger, just look him now racing In midfield beating younger drivers And stuff.
The problem never was with kimi, massa or Alonso it was always Ferrari Who fucked up things.
Love how Nelson got his revenge for exposing how much of a dirty crook his former boss was
sadly Nelson is now a footnote in F1's history while ALO is hailed as a great champion!
Alonso is paying for it now, in his own words "KARMA". He will never win a race again, will probably retire at the end of this year.
Alonso is. He made both Raikkonen and Massa look rubbish at Ferrari and is handily outperforming Vandoorne who won the GP2 championship before coming into f1. The only single seater championships Piquet Jnr won were a couple F3 titles - the SA and Brittish competitions.
ΣΔΜ that's why I can't understand why people can say Alonso isn't that good. He dominated Raikkonen, (Only in Spa Kimi was faster) average speed difference was way more compared to Vettel as team-mates. Alonso is and has been the best driver since 2005. Hamilton is the quickest but makes mistakes and still has a few races per year where hes off the pace. That never happens with Alonso. All this means is that Trulli might have been the most underrated driver of all time! As he beat Alonso on many occasions lol
Monsta Lova Alonso is just brain-dead. I don't get it when he moans about joining an uncompetitive team and then moans about them being uncompetitive.
Basically Renault took the title away from Ferrari, which is really a shame because Massa deserved the 2008 title. Had he won that race, as he was comfortably ahead, the title would've been his.
+Alex Bors He had that incident with the fuel hose that cost him literally minutes in the pit lane though.
+AppetiteForAwesome Whether or not that incident had happened at the Ferrari pit box, had the race been invalidated as it arguably should have been considering the cheating and the fraud that was committed and the effect they had on the results, Massa would (and should) have been 2008 champion. It's not like Renault's actions just affected Renault. The whole race was 'contaminated' as a result.
And then Alonso practically knew it in China that year saying he would help Massa when he effectively caused the pit stop that cost Massa the title
Eh? Wasn't this 09
It was 08 but it only came to light in 09 after Renault got rid of Piquet when he revealed it in revenge
That nonsense has cost Felipe Massa's title that season. A pity for the sport.
and two years later he stole Massa's win in Germany
Massa could still be a champion if he hadn't make a stupid mistake in Malaysia.
Massa also had a shocker at Silverstone that year too. Plus was handed a victory by the FIA in Belgium. Did feel sorry for him in Germany in 2010 though, exactly 12 months after his accident in Budapest and it was a dick move from Ferrari making him give up a race victory that day, he was never quite the same after that.
Renault didn't make Ferrari cock up his pit stop, though.
eh - I disagree. there had been three teams at singapore in 2008 that had to perform double pitstops on lap 17 - McLaren, Toro Rosso and Ferrari. two teams got it going flawlessly, one team screwed it up. the risk to fall victim to a desastrous pit stop had been exactly the same for McLaren and Lewis Hamilton, but they handled it.
I'm back after Briatore's Team Enstone return in an advisory role became official.
1:37 I FOUND A *BWOAH*
MAYBE KIMI PICKED IT FROM ALONSO WHEN THEY WERE TEAMMATES IN FERRARI
Kimi started to BWOAH in his times with Lotus :D
Well Alonso is paying the price now lol
+Themayseffect YOU ARE RIGHT!
Karma is a bitch 😂
+AKATube True, and Im enjoying every moment to see Alonso in a car/team that is unlikely to be anywhere in championship in near future atleast xP
Dont get me wrong, he is great driver, but there is so much of this crap behind him, and most of it he doesnt even feel any shame of, that I just feel utter disgust for this guy.
***** I disliked Alonso way before that....all what happend in 2007, this Crashgate, Germany 2010....
Also I have no difficulties to admit that Alonso did beat Kimi by clear margin in 2014, he could take much more out of that crappy car that Kimi could, and Vettel did the same with better car last year.
But the fact remains that Kimi is still Ferrari's latest champion, Alonso got two shots with Ferrari and failed both times, and now he is stuck with team that he is unlikely to achieve anything, until his career is over...and Im gonna enjoy very much watching that :D
Balnazzardi Alonso may be a better driver, but he still has the dirtiest record out of all the current champions in the field. His current fate is most deserved.
That fixing cost Massa's championship..
So u are saying basically that if that didnt happen, the thing that happened to him that race with the oil thing wouldnt happen?
Lol. What about that ridiculous penalty given to Hamilton in Spa? Lewis deserved the title in the end...
@@Turigemo massa had to retire in 2 consecutive grand prix, hamilton got closer to him at the end of the championship and it was down to brazil, the rain came in the last laps hamilton and massa changed to wet tires but glock didnt so in the last corner hamilton overtook glock and he won it, massa deserved it more tbh
Massa´s horrible race at silverstone did, not this.
Hold on a minute here. I’m not familiar with this story...
But a driver threw himself into the wall to give his team mate a leg up? Risking injury to himself/potentially others - is quite simply fucking mad.
It was to keep his seat i think
Almost sounds like it'd be too unbelievable to be believed,
It was true though.
Saying it put people at risk of injury is a big stretch. The real problem was the manipulation of the race
Saying it put people at risk of injury is a big stretch. The real problem was the manipulation of the race
Last year, Piquet has found the team and won Formula E championchip.
And now he is fired.
he didn't score a podium after the title lol
Now he's out because he stinks
He is trash
The song is DJ Shadow - Stem/Long Stem for anyone wondering
This race made me think of Massa.
If only Massa did not have that pit stop accident, he would have been world champion.
I so wish he was world champion. I think he really deserved it and since his accident, he has never been the same.
Now, as of 1 week before the 2014 Melbourne F1 GP, Williams are looking good in testing and are reliable thus far.
I hope and feel as though this season with all the changes will be very exciting and we'll see other drivers making podiums this year.
Red Bull are unreliable in the testing so far. We will see.
I'll come back in December and see how the year panned out.
i dont think you came back
He killed himself after watching Mercedes dominate the last 3 years. (Arguably 4)
@@MaffooowMC I did
miles2057 lol look where Williams is now, back row lock outs every race!
miles2057 rip🙏🙏
Sounds pretty cocky for Alonso to say he legitimately won when it was fixed. Just lost some respect for him
What would you want him to say? he did say he still count it because he performed well and did no mistakes. If your boss is a fucking cheater you don't have to assume his fault, don't you?
Well, Alonso said it himself "Karma". He never managed to win another WDC that he so wanted even though he was the superior driver most of the time.
I never had respect for him anyway.
Ham says it's legit when he knocked max out in Silverstone and also bottas crashing redbull out in Hungary
You do realise that he was able to keep the lead after another SC right?
"I think that's an interpretation" It was probably Alonso's idea. He's had every team boss he's ever raced for by the neck except at McLaren, where he suffered.
Well its been proven otherwise
@@noobednatherium4082 how could he not at least have known about it?
@@hoverbike Ask the FIA, not me.
@@noobednatherium4082 we’re asking you not the fia
@@russian5470 Well I read the news articles covering the FIA investigations, which said Alonso wasn't in on the plan.
2:21 I love the tone of the question and that Mr. Bell tries to see the funny side of it.
When I was little I was a huge Alonso fan. I'm from Spain, and part of my passion for racing comes from seeing Alonso win that two world champions. The reality is Spanish TV hid that this victory was fair. They just explained what it happened, but for example I dont remember seeing that interview to Alonso. Maybe to keep the audience they didnt want to destroy Alonso's image here.
+NyW Gaming I'm prepared to give Alonso the benefit of the doubt on whether or not he knew. He didn't need to know what his team had planned for the strategy to work. I don't like him but I do respect him.
+PassiveSmoking Either way whether he did or didnt know (and I seriously doubt how he could have not been informed), the fact that he didnt show any shame about that victory even year later when the truth had came out.....ye, Im willing to say that he is one of the best drivers out there, but I dont like him one bit and certainly dont feel sorry for him, when he lost the championship 2 times with Ferrari or that he is now struggling to win anymore races with Mclaren-Honda.
@@PassiveSmoking he would have known considering the fuel load he was given starting from 15th at a new street circuit which didn’t have many overtaking opportunities.
Alonso en ningun momento sabia lo que iba a pasar, de verdad piensas que Alonso iba a permitir eso? Si es uno de los conductores mas limpio y respetuoso de la parrilla?
My Interpretation is you did not win alonso
flavio did not get away with it this time
Yeah he's a dick head !
I don’t understand why he was the one to get banned for life though, since he only knew about the plan but didn’t take part in it, unlike that engineer.
He's a looser
I find it amazing that Pat Simmons is back in F1 at Williams.
Fast forward to the present, and he’s Chief Technical Officer of Formula 1!
It's funny, because Briatore had been wanted on fraud charges in Italy in the 1980s, and for scams and schemes which involved rigging card games. How they allowed this man to participate in Formula One racing at any level, knowing that he had such a history in the first place, is beyond appalling, and would never have happened in any other part of the 'real' world.
For the entirety of his career briatore has been a cheat, first at Benetton in 1994-95, and then at Renault. I'm not surprised to hear that he cheated before f1 too
+Aidan Johnson only F1 it would seem doesn't discriminate against a questionable background.
Props to Piquet. He was the one that came forward about it. Renault acted like assholes to him, so he just came out with his evidence. Takes balls to do that.
"No fine for them". "The penalty for Renault is disqualification but suspended for two years".
Translation:
We'd be forced to sanction them and invalidate the race because the Championship was affected and its integrity was affected, but, since a British driver, Hamilton, in a British team, McLaren, would lose, we'll just let it go.
Or "It's a year later. We can't alter a result after x amount of time."
the irony is, because if this, alonso's arch enemy won the title that year...
the crash happened on lap 14 or so, out of a 60 lap race so alonso still did well to lead the whole pack throughout the race
Track position. Street circuit. I’m hoping by now you understand racing in a circuit like Singapore better than you did 10 years ago
You can hear in his voice that his honest opinion is something completely different. Whether he was involved in it or not, it's despicable that he won't just say it was wrong and walk away. Piquet may have agreed to doing it because he believed it might help save his career. But Alonso, a double world champion, could've gotten a drive in basicly any other team if he had walked away from Renault right when he found out.
1:31 I can feel the guilt in Alonso's eyes... his body language tells all. He knew/was involved in the race fix incident.
For sure he knew. In 2008, as far as i remember the fuel that you qualified, you had to start the race. Fernando qualified with a small quantity of fuel witch meant that he had to stop very early on the race, fill up his petrol tank and go to the end with a set of tires.
In the end, to make that strategy works, something had to happen and alonso isn't a dumb, he knew that something had to happen in order to make the strategy works.
Rodrigo Luiz Do you really believe what you say?Just wondering... Though he has learnt from these tough states like spy gate, crash gate, germany 2010. F1 would not had this spirit and passion of never giving up without Alonso's presence. Great driver, even greater and kind man. I don't want to believe he did it, but if, it's pretty shame for then.
Emma Andreou , if he is as smart as he claims, he would be at least suspicious of a very agressive strategy without a very competetive car. Don't ve folled with the thought "kind" of a driver that you see. I mean, there isn´t a kind driver. All the greatest had to be very agressive and take a lot of questionable acts. If a driver has to basically destroy his team mate to win or to looking good to fans and media, you can bet, they will.
Rodrigo Luiz I didn't call him a kind driver. I only said he is a kind man as a whole in his life especially the recent years. It makes me an impression that Piquet said Alonso was innocent. He would say sth if he knew, but I wonder why to "protect" Fernando... What happend has happend, he remains this maverick and passionate driver, if you think about his age and his state in the last years. I really like him as lots of people do and i will do it for a long time. Thanks for your time!
In recent years he knew the car he had and he had no chance to win. I mean, there are a lot of perspective we can see this, and now he is trying to get some PR over him, and i don´t see anything wrong with that.
How many times do you hear cheating and in the next sentence flavio briatore?
briatores reaction to piquet jrs crash is so unconvincing lol
i love how piquet got away with it he was able to restart his career in nascar and now is looking more and more likely to be in the cup series full time
+Trey Campbell Are you kidding? Even when this comment was made he didn't have a ride. He was dropped at the end of 2013.
+Ernie Siciliano he won the formula E world championship
I think it was more a 'do as we say or we'll sack you kind of deal.'
"THAT'S EH.. INTERPRETATION". Nice job, Alonso, everyone thinks you are the good guy now
renault is a part of formula 1. any bad action on their part reflects the sport as a whole. this was clear race fixing and it should've been completely annulled. alonso should not keep his victory and no driver who participated should keep their points (write the race off the season completely) but since doing so would have meant stripping hamilton of the title it wasn't done.
+Mark FormulaRacer Thank you!
+Anthony Iuculano -for what ?
For saying it, as it needed to be said
+Mark FormulaRacer definetly it wasnt fair to do so but would be the better for the sport at the time...
+Vitor Atomik Mota - yes, one year later, stripping hamilton of the title would be completely unfair. that's why shit like this needs to be investigated. hamilton basically won the title largely thanks to the results of a scripted race.
Imagine, if Piquet hadn't say anything about Renault's deceive, Singapore gp 2008 would have been still considered as a clear race with a set of unbelievable situations but based on pure strategy, without frauds. People and fans would have been deceived up to now!
hamilton at that age said it ALL!!!
noticed how piquet nearly hit the wall in the warm up lap on purpose so you knew something fishy was going on
Hahaaa Hamilton saying that about racing battles, wheel to wheel is the funniest part of this.
How?..
@@russian5470 Hamilton is always the first to jump on the radio and complain about "dangerous driving" every time someone comes within 100 feet of his car.
I never understood why the Renault team went through such great lengths to fix the race for Alonso, I mean he wasn't exactly fighting for a World Championship at the time, was he?
Because Alonso was quick at Singapore and without the engine failure in qualifying, he would have been at least in the fight for the podium positions
"are you saying that Alonso did not question his suspicious early pit stop?"
Why would he question it if he knew about this plan?
Alonso's interpretation reminded me of alternative facts
I still feel suspicious about Pat, so I hope there's nothing underhand going on at Williams, as they are a genuinely great team
This didn't aged well
What you guys all forget is that most of the top teams did team orders stuff similar to this and sometimes drivers did it on their own too. So stop saying Renault is a cheating team because less than 5 people were involved in that kind of cheating and not the team in itself.
Yes i'm quite sure Alonso knew about that but you guys all forget that most of the top drivers did some very nasty moves to get a win or a championship: i am french and i love Prost but i admit he deliberately took himself out with Senna (i love him too) for the 1989 WC in the chicane, the following year Senna took Prost and himself out in the first corner in order to win the 1990 WC and he admitted it, in 1994 Schumi (i love him aswell) deliberately turned early to hit Hill causing them to retire and Schumi got the 1994 WC as a result, he tried to do the same in 1997 to Villeneuve but failed and Villeneuve won the 1997 WC and those are championship material stuff not only a race win even if it changed a lot of things...
We all know that team orders to fix a win or a championship already happened and it will sadly remain, some are just very easy to see like Singapore 08 or Germany 10 but remember Austria 01 and 02 for example, or there is Jordan in Belgium 98 and a lot of other known or unknown shit like this that happen every year, due to team orders or deliberate actions by drivers....
Fernando is faster than you...
It should be pointed out though that although Fernando won that race through Piquet's crash there are other factors that need to be considered
1) The race still needed winning. Fernando could easily have done a 'Kimi' and thrown it in the wall
2) Mark Webber could have won if he didn't have a technical problem with his Red Bul
We must remember that the year before Senna did that, there was the incident where Prost and him crashed at Suzuka, in 1989. At that time, they were on the same team, Mclaren. And in Senna's defense, it looked obvious that Prost caused the accident in 1989, so he felt like he needed to get back at him. But, you're right about the fact that people do all sorts of crap in their favor - Prost and somewhat Senna.
Here's what i don't understand. We all know what happened now that it's been 6 years of that story, but anyway, Alonso has kept that victory. It's rubbish, i don't think it matters if he had knowledge of the whole ploy or not.. the team manufactured the win,
dont you think it would be unair to take a victory from him, where he had no knowledge of what his team here doing and had no input on the plan?
Gamefan56 yeah it would be fair if they took that victory from Alonso and from Renault
take the points from renault i would be fine with, but not the victory from Alonso. He did nothing wrong here.
Yes, I think it would be fair... it was winning by cheating
Israel Núñez hardly the safety car helped a bit but he had to wi the rest of the race fair and squarely.
You are quite right on your comment. However, Senna had a strong reason to do what he did then, in Suzuka. What had happened a year before that incident was probably a strong one. Secondly, after starting on pole, they had put him out on the dirty part of the track when every pilot knew it wasn't a fair decision.
That could also be the reason people don't call Senna a bad sportsman.
Whos here after the dutch grand prix?
Hell yeah DJ Shadow!
i lost half my respect for Alonso after hungary 2007 i lost the other half for Alonso after Crashgate. Thank god that Vettel stoped Alonso in 2010 and 2012
senna1979212241512 What happened during the 2007 Hungarian GP?
Vylkeer Alonso held Hamilton up in the pit lane, denying Hamilton a chance to record a final lap time.
FanOf Seb05 Monaco 2006
@@jjsv0527 Hamilton was just as much at fault.
@@noobednatherium4082 but Alonso is the one that made it public with his frustrations in being beaten by a rookie with how he acted in USA and then with Hungary
Ive watched this and now alonso retirement isn't so sad...
Massa should have won the title because of this. The true 2008 world champion.
13 years later, the next closest thing to manipulation occurs. Who could've thought, LOL?
I love how this is specifically made by the BBC to make look Alonso bad even though it's been proved multiple times that Fernando had nothing to do with anything. Pathetic.
exactly
Yeah of course... Alonso is always trustyworthy
typical whinging poms
It is a matter of interpretation. I don't think it made Alonso look bad.
Mikhail proved?
@SearchRodge I think the same. Although Alonso was a bit angry on Lewis in 2008 because how he was treated in Mclaren in 2007. But Alonso didn't really have any major conflicts with Hamilton. There is the talks about how Alonso and Hamilton didn't get along in 2007 but it was more like how Alonso and Ron Dennis didn't get along. The conflict was between them, not Alonso and Hamilton.
It would have given Felipe Massa the title.
A permanent mark on Alonso's career.
+Michael C Every world champion has been in the mist of some scandal one way or another. This is no better or worse.
First ever to win a grand prix in the night, I agree
+Erluismawy and what "amazing" win that was, rigged by his team-boss and manager....and he surely knew about the plan himself as well.....well luckily karma bite him back, first in Ferrari (no championships and now in Mclaren (the team is not able to fight for even wins in near future)...and Im enjoying every bit of it, deserves him right xD
Alonso didn't do anything wrong.
Balnazzardi LoL xD
1:38 BWOAH
In Turkey RedBull tried to make Teamorder, so what are you talking about?
Where Alonso asks for Team order in Hockenheim? "This is redicilous" Alonso said after the team make him clear, that he not should attack Massa.
Piquet did this to keep the drive for 2009, which he lost halfway through 2009 anyway.
Even after watching this video, I still didn't really get what the big deal was
Nelson Piquet Jr deliberately crashed his car in an attempt to fix the result of the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix, per the orders of someone within the team. This crash helped team mate Fernando Alonso win the race and an argument could be made that it cost Felipe Massa the World Championship
ALO THE BEST
I still can't believe someone would order or suggest a driver crash cos Nelson could had really hurt himself and other. I think he had pressure from the top man and as team boss u r fully responsible. Yeah was ironic that crash for Romain
You should know that by being a racing driver, you are under risk all the time. and if you no longer go for a gap that exists, you no longer a racing driver because we are competing, we are competing to win, and the main motivation to all of us is to compete for victory, its not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th, I race to Win, as long as I feel its possible - Ayrton Senna
These days, they wouldn't even need a crash to bring out a safety car. All they would need is a driver to fart on the main straight and they would red flag it.
Alonso just said to the effect " I had nothing to do with it , and drove a mistake free race . " You can't fault him for a team order.
But he wouldn’t have been in that position to win without piquet crashing. Before alonso made his stop he’d just past Trulli who was lapping incredibly slowly which meant Alonso might not have even scored points if the crash didn’t happen
@@tombardsley3081 Alonso had real pace that day and pulled away after he took the lead by miles. He deserved to get onto the podium if the scandal didn't happen, as he started 15th.
@@noobednatherium4082 he only got that far up the field cos of the safety car and not having to pit (since back then the pitlane was closed when it was initially deployed and only after the field bunched was when it was opened so drivers that hadn't pitted lost out massively whilst those that had pitted before gained hugely). It's also why Rosberg who was leading at the restart and kubica got stop go penalties as they pitted when it was closed as they were pretty much out of fuel. Without Renault fixing , Alonso would have been nowhere near the podium (he was miles behind after passing trulli)
@@tombardsley3081 yeah no, if he was able to not get passed by the best car in the field, then he could've recovered safety car or not no problem
@@noobednatherium4082 he only got to the front because of the safety car! Did you actually watch the race? Alonso was 51 seconds behind the leader (more than that after making the pit stop) after just 10 laps of the race. That’s almost 2 pit stops behind with refuelling. There’s no way he would have caught that up and past that many cars under normal circumstances unless there was a safety car. It’s also hard to overtake in Singapore. Plus Massa had the pitstop issue, Hamilton and raikkonen got stuck in traffic plus Massa pit stop issue screwed raikkonen behind both red bulls and as I mentioned before Kubica had the penalty. Before Rosberg served his penalty, Rosberg was over 20 seconds clear of Alonso, and Alonso was stuck behind fisichella in the slowest car on the grid (force India) and couldn’t get past him until the force India made his first pit stop. Alonso was put in the position to win because of Renault’s cheating
Massa the real F1 World Champion in 2008.
Not agan this bullshit
Who else is here after today's news lol
Me
I love how they ask a cheater about cheating at 3:30
yes, brits always ask stupid questions
You mean at 1:27
you also mean 3:48?
Exactly when have Hamilton and Alonso cheated?
Sasquatch Hamilton lying to stewards in australia 2009
Massa would be an World Champion if wasn't for that... He was not only leading that race before the SC (and then we all know what happened, the pit stop problem), as if this race were bannished, he would also be the World Champion for that year... And the funny thing is that everybody praises Alonso, when he actually knew about it all and just didn't get penalized. Alonso is the kind of guy that have to praise himself to be above the others, always talking bad things about the other drivers and good things about himself.
So, what you're saying is that if the incident didn't happen, the fuel rig issue wouldn't happen? Have you got any evidence proving so?
There was a debate back in the day whether it was Piquet or Simmons?
I know, hindsight is 20/20 but come on.
I doubt Alonso never knew this plan, his strategy used in that race would have been very stupid had Piquet not crashed and brought out the safety car.
As we all know, Renault are entering Formula 1 as a works team in 2016 for the first time since 2008. As an F1 fan through-and-through, the 'Crashgate' cheat is still fresh in the sport. People are going to say, 'Renault F1 team, this is their first season as a works team since 2008, their highlight of that year was a cheat.' No team wants to have that on their card. I still have no sympathy for them, when they put lives at risk in order to win a race, it's unforgivable.
+Jackal Fox They were still in the sport in 2010 your talking out of your ass mate, at the end of 2009 they sold most the company but kept a share and then sold it completely at the end of 2010
It's, 'you're', not 'your'. But hey, if I want to be pedantic I'd say Renault have been involved in the sport every since 2010.
+Jackal Fox, it was not the team that cheated. It was a couple of individuals. Get over it!
+Jackal Fox Pointing out your wrong facts isn't being pedantic you fucking idiot.
No. He's saying Renault F1 Team. They were a team until the end of 2010. Engine supplier does not count in that regard.
LOL- 2019 fixed the breaks. Once a cheater always a cheater.
about team orders, I really don't care how many team orders examples you could give me, in 2010 it was against the rules, and there is actually a few a VERY few times where the driver ASK the team to move the other driver out of the way. thank you for your time
I love the fact that a scheme between Piquet and Simmons/Briatore ends up with comments on how much people hate Alonso.
It's like Spygate, a deal between a McLaren engineer and a Ferrari engineer ends up with 'God I hate Alonso' when all he did was threaten to come clean about it, I love how some peoples minds work.
He lied about his involvement with spy gate . Hence why he got the stick for it. Plus he would have been involved in this scheme given that it was planned to benefit him in the race
1:38 bwoah
Quite ironic that nico said you will always find people that do things Rubbish, look at him today in Germany with verstappen and Austria with Hamilton!
Or with Verstappen at Germany. "I was in full lock, I could not steer anymore" when it was clear from the video he did not even start to steer until he was almost off the damn track. Hilarious.
Exactly. I guess some people just see different levels of "rubbish-ness".
And how about what happend in Australia 2009 with McLaren or with BAR in 2005 hahaha
Nothing wrong with Germany, even anti-Rosberg Brundle said as much, Verstappen left himself on the outside for a gap that was never going to exist instead of braking and cutting under Rosberg so he could claim he got pushed off the track. Weird how every decision started going Verstappen's way after Heinekken started sponsoring F1 as well... Austria was Nico's corner to dictate the line as well but Hamilton decided he wasn't going to let Nico push him out as he had done to Nico so often and turned in.
MORGAN RACING Theres a big difference between Pushing someone wide and race fixing
Whether Alonso knew or not about that, it deeply saddens me. Alonso was my favourite driver when I was only a boy. I was genuinely happy to see him win not once, but twice the driver championship. I even had tears in my eyes when I saw him for real in the 2007 Belgium Grand Prix at Spa Francorchamps (I was 8 at the time) and I cried when he didn't win the race (he finished 3rd).
In 2008, I started to loose hope when I saw him not winning any race... and then I heard there would be a race at night, in Singapore. For me it was awesome and truly special at the time so I was very excited at the idea of seeing such a race. I can't tell you how much I was happy when Alonso won this race. Everything was perfect... and then, this scandal appeared.
I don't know whether Fernando knew or was involved in that scandal and I want to believe he wasn't. After his 1st year at Ferrari, I stopped watching F1 because it wasn't broadcasted for free anymore in my country, but I only started to watch it again until very recently. I learned about all the shit he's been through with his last teams and I hope that things will get better for him.
What I want to say to you all, is that I don't think we will ever know the truth about the fact that he was aware of that fix unless maybe if he decide to reveal what he knew for real at the time back then.
So please, let's not spread more hatred, more curse and more "I enjoy seeing him losing more than other drivers winning" kind of bullshit because that is just childish. I totally understand that you guys can believe him as guilty (and I wouldn't be surprised if he was, considering the magnitude of the scandal) but as I said, we should all move on because it was 10 years ago and focus on the future of Formula 1.
guys, if you actually knew the story you would know that Alonso had nothing to do with the decision for Piquet jnr to crash
hamiltons fault XD
Alonso had real pace that day and pulled away after he took the lead by miles. He deserved to get onto the podium if the scandal didn't happen, as he started 15th.
That's true, it was the team, for what WE know but the famous "this is Ridiculous" make me rethink a lot indeed. Alonso had shown his cheater face so many times I wouldn't be surprise he had something to do with this
Flavio Briatore was also suspected of being involved in the illegal use of software to control active suspension systems at Benetton. But it could not be proved. Senna knew Benetton were cheating but Williams did not raise the issue with the FiA.
Verstappen confirmed this later with Briatore .... :(
Wow. Utterly disgusted by Alonso's response on the legitimacy of his victory. Hate to see a great team like McLaren struggle but the silver lining is that they're bringing Alonso down with them!
Well said
Fernando is just going by the record books on that. He'll class it as a win because it's a win.
Alonso does not deserve this situation in McLaren. Get over it. It was 10 years ago. If Alonso had anything to pay for, he did it with the lost titles in Ferrari. He became more mature with time...
1:37 bwoah!
I bet 99% ppl who are commenting against alonso dont even know what's the actual story and who's the culprit......I guess Alonso haters are inevitably from one country..and this hate is endemic to this place..only one country....John bull you got me right..Grow up guys
hi there. in 90 pole position was not moved, it was on the same side since 87, when Suzuka returned to the F1 calendar. there´s footage of the 88 and 89 races in the Senna movie as well, where Senna was on pole on the same side and failed both starts to Prost. the return of a favor part i agree
Fernando's got nothing to do with it
3:33 Sorry Nick, what was that? *Cough* Monaco 2014 *Cough cough*
Keep beating that dead horse.
On a circuit where you cant overtake sure.... it was called Trulli-train for a reason.
how can alonso have the nerve to say that? makes me sick
Nothing against Rosberg but it cracked me up that he was the first to talk about cheating and individuals doing rubbish
When did Rosberg cheat?
cough* Monaco 2014 cough*
Alonso; once a cheater, always a cheater!
2007-mclaren, 2008-singapore, 2009-force raikkonen leave, 2010-this is ridiculous, 2011-idk, 2012-austin, 2013-cry baby, 2014-renault again lol
Briatore is like an Italian Mafioso lol. He is a sneaky bloke, no doubt earned his money by braking a few rules
3:31 Rosberg on cheating D:
1:27 Alonso on cheating is even worse D:
fernando alonso knew about that for sure this guy is so selfish i hope kimi push him this year to show us his real character!!!!
Alonso 3º in the championship, Kimi 12º, I think that alonso is getting boring of Kimi
NaujFormula1 Obviosuly Kimi has problems with car, atleast he can race a good car to wins, Alonso can only seem good in shit cars that he can't develop because he hasn't got any developing skills or intelligence like true champions have.
FinSituation you didn´t see the 2005 and 2006 championship right?
NaujFormula1 2006 was a good season, 2005 too but to be honest Kimi would have won the championship if the damn McLaren hadn't been so unreliable, and the racer in him made him make the wrong decision in Nurburgring, but that showed to me atleast he has the passion that guys like Senna, Prost and Fangio had, not just cold and calculative.
FinSituation The how come Alonso was the only one to challenge Vettel in 2012 and 13? where was Kimi? and how is Fernando cold and calculative?
Victory was not handed to Alonso. The crash probably made it more accessible, but still he had to drive more than 35 laps and stay ahead without crashing on a fast street circuit. Sorry for the haters but that does not take anything away for the driver skills. If you hate him that much why comment on videos related to his career?
No, but I can say that the pitstop wouldn't have been made under such stressful conditions, thus referencing to the safety car phase which made ALL the cars enter the pit. Ferrari had no other choice but to make a storming pit-stop - firstly, because they wanted to keep Massa ahead and secondly, because Raikkonen entered the pit at the same time and was losing a lot of places by waiting (and therefore losing a lot of time) directly behind Massa.
Hahahahahahahahah,poor alonso fanboy.
what does this mean ?