Is Shanks STRONGER Than Mihawk? Explain.
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- We discuss in episode 27, the latest SBS to hit the airwaves and what Oda meant when he said to someone's fanart that included swordsman, "Look at the full lineup of swordsman. When they cut, it hurts." We breakdown how interpretation can be easily skewed. What are your thought?
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"Both using swords... Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world.... but Shanks is stronger cuz I like him more"
Logic at it's finest
Roger uses a sword is Mihawk stronger than roger
@@shakmarriott4820 yes
@@splev8111 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@splev8111 your funny shanks is stronger for sure
@@shakmarriott4820 Head Canon mihawk slams
But Zoro has a no sword style. He does punch people… So is Zoro not a swordsman?
Exactly
Will end of series zoro be stronger than Yonko?
@@imtiazsultan9138 Zoro, especially in terms of physical strength, would be top 2 . It seems that Oda is going down the path of having Zoro surpass Ryuma god of the blade the same way as Luffy surpassing Joyboy . So I think at the EOS would be :
1. Luffy as JoyBoy
2. Zoro as God of the Blade
Etc.
I think in terms of physical strength, he would be second only to Luffy .
@@Damian_Howlagreed
No sword style is a sword style tho bro. 😂😂😂 he’s using his body like a sword at the point just like lucci uses his finger like a pistol. 🤦♂️
Its never stated they fought to a draw lol thats just coping
They are just stated to have fought, and since we know who has the title now its quite easy to speculate who won.
They have been and treat each other even in present time as worthy rivals so AT LEAST they are equals.
There are also a bunch of hints saying Mihawk is stronger.
Arguments like Mihawk vs Vista are not valid, we know for a fact Mihawk does not go all out with weaker opponents like he said in his battle against Zoro "im not a fool who hunts a rabbit with a canon"
This is consistent.
It is stated Mihawk IS LOOKING FOR someone stronger than Shanks, wich will be Zoro btw
Add that to the title and having a black blade.
The majority of actual hints are saying Mihawk is stronger but we can say they are equals.
Theres no chance Mihawk is weaker tho.
"More of a pirate than a swordsman" bro these arguments are such cope
1:00 It was "Usopp Gallery" not SBS, which is a section at the end of a volume where fanarts are submitted and Oda would write a caption underneath it. Here Oda clearly confirmed Shanks as a swordsman.
Being a pirate and being a swordsman aren't mutually exclusive. I don't really get this "being more of a pirate" than a swordsman. If you are a swordsman, you are a swordsman which means you are automatically inferior to Mihawk.
2:38 Mihawk's title is not "World Most skilled swordsman" or "World strongest when only with a sword" or "world strongest swordsman to the teeth".
All the way back in Orange Town arc, Oda already established what is a swordsman. Cabaji breathes fire, throws his circus tricks and throw kicks but still labels himself as a swordsman. Zoro himself uses "no sword style", does that mean he is now "more of a swordsman"?
Whitebeard title was the world strongest man but does that mean he is only strongest when using physical strength? No, his devil fruit (which has the power to destroy the world) and his conqueror coating on his bisento is involved.
Mihawk isn't stronger than Roger but Mihawk wasn't the World Strongest Swordsman at the time since they are from two different era.
4:35 WB fought Roger to a draw too, yet he was still the World Strongest Man. Fighting to a draw just means they are very close in power and would require a long time in order to win (extreme diff).
The Vivre card (approved by Oda) confirmed than there are no secret swordsmen stronger than Mihawk and his title is in actuality. And it has to be otherwise Zoro has been chasing a lie and meaningless title this whole time.
If Shanks is indeed stronger than Mihawk then that means when Zoro actually defeats Mihawk, his dream doesn't mean anything because there is another swordsman stronger than him.
Facts, these guys keep saying that Shanks is more than a swordsman but there's no evidence or implication that supports that premise at all, everytime Shanks has challenged a powerful foe it's always been with a sword, he challenged Whitebeard with his sword, he stopped Akainu with his sword, he challenged the entireity of MarineFord with his sword, in databooks Oda himself states Shanks swordsmanship sits among the highest tier and in SBS 98 I think it was Oda drew all Yonkou utilizing the best weapons they have at their disposal when they're going all out and in this presentation Shanks is drawn with his sword gryphon in hand whilst massive amounts of conquerors haki coating is leaking from it, this proves that in order for Shanks to go all out and fully display what he's truely capable of as a fighter he has to have his sword gryphon to utilize in combat and that without it he won't be at his best ultimately proving that Shanks' primary means of combat is swordsmanship and if swordsmanship is the field Shanks uses primarily it automatically means he is inferior to Mihawk, if Mihawk is stronger than Shanks in swordsmanship then he's stronger than Shanks overall beacuse overall Shanks is mainly a sword fighter its the field he's the best at.
@@thatguynamedzeus5091 pffft shanks beats mihawk if they fought again, he became a yonko after he lost an arm…. So until we SEE something I’m going with shanks all day.
@@smarty1268 There's no evidence to suggest that Shanks would win in altercation with Mihawk currently
To say Mihawk isn't stronger than Roger when there are no such statements, you'd have to be fair by also saying Roger isn't stronger than Mihawk.
Being in a different period of time doesn't mean you can't reach a level above the other.
@@smarty1268 but you’re acting like his RIVAL mihawk stopped training or didn’t get stronger either. After shanks lost his arm. Did mihawk not get stronger after shanks lost his arm.
I hate the shanks is not a swordsman. If Shanks is not a swordsman then who is a swordsman after Mihawk the only other swordsman is vista which means Zoro is already a swordsman.
As for Roger he died before Mihawk became WSS.
Shanks lost his arm. He cannot be a sword man anymore. Mihawk basically confirmed this when he said he didn’t want to fight shanks. Mihawk is interested in swordsmanship and following the sword code. It’s not hard to understand
@@travisealy3512 how does losing an arm stop you from being a swordsman if you still use a sword like always? a one armed yassop isnt a gunman? if tyson is boxing someone and loses an arm but keeps fighting hes not a boxer? he still jabs, crosses, hooks, uppercuts its just 1 armed now, thats still the armament of a boxer just like being a sword only fighter makes you a swordsman even if you switch to 1 handed variations
@@BadKarma1608 my point is shanks lost his arm. He won’t have the same sword skill he used to but oda said shanks didn’t lose strength so he makes that strength up in other ways that don’t relate to the sword. That’s why I’m saying he’s not a swordsman.
@@travisealy3512 Oda said he didn’t lose power in terms of being feared, which is why the sentence after that adds on him being feared by other pirates. Also Oda still called him a swordsman with his film red data book
Shanks has never used another weapon other then a sword he is going to use his one arm to use a sword💀
The copium is real.
Guys, Oda has confirmed they are all swordsmen.
Mihawk bears the title of STRONGEST swordsman, not most SKILLED or most PROFICIENT swordsman, its the STRONGEST. Not to mention we have never seen Shanks fight , so how are you measuring Shanks's ability to fight without a sword.
Zoro literally has no sword style .
Fact
Shanks isn’t luffy goal u can try ur hardest to. Say he is but he isn’t so that point ur making about “narrative sense “ doesn’t even make sense second of all to try and use the performance of Mihawk and shanks is hilarious to me because if we use big mom and kaido for a great example rn kaido is fighting characters that struggle to make the top 15 yet Mihawk who was barely paying attention to vista is criticised yet kaido who got injured fighting the 9 red scabbards isn’t thirdly ur swordman arguement doesn’t even make sense every indication of shanks he uses a sword every single one every encounter he uses a sword not like king who uses kicks etc. the only reason why u can argue shanks is stronger is ur own headcanon there’s an overwhelming amount of evidence that Mihawk is stronger or bare minimum equal it’s laughable
Don’t treat it as a fact
Agree bro TBH Mihawk is better in pure sword skills for ex if Mihawk skills are 10 shanks gets 9 and in this Mihawk has an edge and in haki ( which u obviously need to become top tier) shanks has an edge that's how it it 🙏
Luffy uses Punches and kicks to win, King uses punches kicks and a sword to win, so King is stronger because he has more stuff?
Wait for the new episode to drop tomorrow to hear why you’re right and this is a huge L for the show.
Shanks has always been a swordsman to me. Even when he was a kid, he always used a sword. I know people like to claim that Shanks primary means of fighting is haki, but that goes the same for swordsmen. Haki is key for swordsmen as well. That's why its always been either Mihawk > Shanks, or they're equal.
Shanks gon have gun that would end this head cannon
@@ifritThe8thwdym head cannon he has had a sword in every frame we have seen him
People like to say shanks could punch and kick mihawk however:
1. Shanks used his SWORD to clash with whitebeard
2. Shanks used his SWORD to block akainus attack
3. When Shanks stops the war he pulls out his SWORD and challenges everybody
4. Shanks used his SWORD to direct his haki at greenbull in wano
5. Shanks used his sword to one shot Kid with devine departure
6. In Film Red Shanks attacks Kizaru and deflects his light attack with his SWORD and also pointa his SWORD at Kizaru
Every single MAJOR feat that Shanks has shown us in the story he has used his SWORD!!!!!!!
So when people argue that shanks has another means of fighting like kicking and punching that argument is not valid.
So if Shanks' strongest and greatest feats has him using his sword and mihawk is the worlds strongest swordsman it is not logical to claim that shanks destroys mihawk in a 1v1.
Based on the narrative and what we know of the two characters, the observation haki of both characters is probably equal, mihawk has much greater armament haki (probably the best in the entire series) but shanks definitely has the strongest conqueror's haki in the entire series.
So in terms of pure power they are evenly matched at best.
But in a 1v1 shanks ain't beating mihawk. Mahn is one of the fastest, smartest and the most skilled fighter in the entire show. To claim that shanks would win based purely on his conqueror's haki is a non valid argument.
Let's be honest, shanks' conqueror's haki probably wouldn't even effect mihawk that much, the man is scared of no one.
The truth is either mihawk=shanks or mihawk>shanks
Share this argument with all the mihawk haters👌🏻
Mental gymnastics
If mihawk was weaker than shanks he’d be a red hair pirate
Huh??????
Its like people are forgetting Shanks used Soru on Whitebeards ship😅😄
And Mihawk used gepo in Marineford, and he karate chopped Zoro at Baratie
So I wanna get your attention on a theory I have #1 I think law is apart of sword x drake let him out of jail his ties to corazon and the fact he is always telling Luffy that he doesn’t act like a normal pirate like doffy and when ever marines are involved he doesn’t seem to care all that much maybes that’s just cuz he’s a bad ass or maybe he’s apart of sword and harp and smoker told him that Luffy isn’t a regular pirate and that’s why he teamed up with Luffy and his Betrayal it’s us finding out he’s a part of sword and Luffy not really caring about it
Can Shanks do Divine Departure without his sword? If yes, then would it hit even as half as hard with sword? I don't know. No proof is out. But yet that sounds stupid.
Why that bald guy is holding Marinford....oda did Nerf him in that and didn't use any named attack....if he would go all out...the Marinford war ended there amd there.... settling score doesn't mean his was at loosing..like Kakashi and might guy
Mihawk > shanks.Ill Debate you
Go debate in the show goofy ahh. Why you're not pulling up pussay? Cringelord fraudhawktard
When Mihawk came to Shanks; Shanks asked him "did you come here to settle the score?". This clearly implies that Shanks a just a bit stronger than Shanks. If they fought it would be like Akainu vs Aokiji, an EXTREME diff fight with shanks just BARELY winning.
Mihawk is better at using swords that anyone on the planet. Thats it. Thats what the title means. And honestly thats a lot. But It doesn't mean he automatically beats everyone who uses a sword. It doesn't mean he is stronger then Rodger because Rodger uses a sword. That'd be like saying the best gunman in the world is stronger then Blackbeard, because blackbeard always carries guns. Or the best polearm expert in the world beats Whitebeard.
Mihawk regarded himself as being below whitebeard (please, please don't try to argue he meant the physical distance between him and that man. You don't introduce a Yanko for the first time, and then have the strongest person the Straw Hats have interacted with so far launch an attack only for it to be blocked by the Yonko's subordinate to establish distance. This is a story, Oda is a story teller. That was meant to establish stakes)
And, to top it all off, One Piece is a world of imperfect information. Its power scaling is done with bounties, which are not objective. Robin's was way higher then her power level because of her knowledge for a long time. Cracker's was lower then it should be, because the government thought one biscuit solider was his. The titles are the same way. Whitebeard was not the strongest man in the world at marineford, still held the title. Feats and characters and match ups dictate who wins fights. Not what flashes below someones name when they get an introductory panel.
If you know a top tier swordsman who doesn't use haki let me know.
Meh. We know literally nothing about these characters full abilities and power levels. One thing I can say tho is that Zoro’s endgame is Mihawk (probably if Shiryu doesn’t kill him for plot) and that we don’t know anything about Shanks’ power but that he is a swordsman and he has the most influence over the world after whitebeard died. But from all we know there’s only one thing you can say, in terms of strength, we only know Mihawk is the strongest of swordsman and Shanks most likely has the strongest conquers haki in the series atm. We only know his conquerers level being insane and not other types.
Cope is remarkable 😂.
Mihawk is the better swordsman but Shanks probably is a better overall fighter … end of debate 😆🔥I love y’all channel !!!
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As an overall fighter Shanks is swordsman though lol, swordsmanship is clearly the field Shanks is the best at as proven when he challenged Whitebeard with his sword, he stopped Akainu with his sword, he challenged the entireity of MarineFord with a sword Oda in the databooks even states that Shanks' swordsmanhip sits among the highest tier....all these things clearly points to the conclusion that Shanks is at his best when he's utilizing his sword and that without it he won't be able to properly display what he's truely capable of as a fighter, if he's at his best when he's utilizing his sword it means Shank's is primarily a swordsman and if he's primarily a swordsman it means he is inferior to Mihawk overall because as I said overall Shanks is mainly a sword fighter, its the thing he's by far the most good at.
@@ThatOnePieceTalk Yalls next topic should be whether or not you guys think Mihawk has conquerors haki, I'd like to hear what you guys think about that idea
@@thatguynamedzeus5091 we discussed it when Zoro first displayed CoC vs Kaido and again during his first showing vs King.
We decided he has to have it in order to cut Kaido because Zoro is touching Oden’s tip of the iceberg power level and we know Mihawk has to be above Oden. Also, anyone that’s top 10 in the show is assumed to have it.
We all agreed upon that. He most definitely does. Zoro wouldn’t fight another swordsman for a title that’s endgame if he didn’t.
@@thatguynamedzeus5091 finally someone with sense
Doesn't make sense narratively for Mihawk to rival a character that doesn't place the same value on swordplay as he does. Also doesn't make sense for Shanks to pursue a rivalry with Mihawk strictly on the basis of swordsmanship if he didn't view it the same. It's more so incredulity on the community's part.
Shanks is not a swordman , how many swordmen out there Changed there style, i mean shanks had 2 swords when he was young and even before he loses his arm he had just one sword?? So he changed his fighting style! No because this doesn't make any sense at all , he is like Rayleigh he uses everything but he is not a 100% a swordman , if you take the sword from both mihwak and shanks shanks still has the strongest haki tell now in one piece
@@ahmedadel-tz2bj Zoro literally has 5 different styles including a hand to hand style... He's still considered a swordsman. So is Shanks. You take away the swords, and Mihawk still wins lol.
@@hushsilence8932 you just can't get it zoro does not have 3 different styles, zoro when he gets serious he uses only 3 swords , that's his main and true style, no one in OP has changed his entire style .he learned how to fight on Roger's ship and he did use 2 swords then wtf happened to change his the entire style ? Again take the sword from both and you will see that shanks is not useless like mihwak , an admiral was shitting himself just bec shank's conq haki no man in OP tell now did that not even mihwak , and don't forget something when the navy sent someone to capture mihwak they did send punch of no bodies and a vice admiral they literally have 0 fear of him while current shanks making them scared to death, i don't know why you people think shanks is weaker because you keep forgetting that they fought many times and not a single time mihwak won so going by your logic this makes shanks the strongest swordman too? How can be more than one !
@@ahmedadel-tz2bj he literally says one sword *Style,* two sword *style,* three sword *style,* no sword *style,* and nine sword *style,* for each of his respective styles... It's legitimately right there in the nomenclature.. also has iado styles or Sheath and Draw styles. He utilizes Foxfire Style from Kinemon as well.
We see Zoro in Shimotsuki village using only 2 swords until Kuina died.
I'm not sure what you mean. Kaku is also a swordsman that utilizes Rokushiki aside from swordsmanship..doesn't make Kaku a non swordsman. If their main attacks are always sword based, then they're swordsmen. Shanks has used Gryphon in every fight on screen. He grabbed it when using Haki on greenbull.
Take the swords away, Mihawk still wins.
Why did shanks lose his arm
To nameless sea king if he’s so strong and just because it was back then when he was weaker should’ve still never lost his arm
Bruh the mental gymnastics is amazing with these shanks fanboys! The author himself revealed that!
Roger,Shanks,Reylig all of them use a sword and haki,all of them are human.
King was a lunarian,with powers ecc.. he does not count.
R,S,R are without doubt swordman.
Maybe shanks if he has a sword who eat a devil fruit,could be exume,but roger and reylig are god them swordman.
So zoro at the end > MW,R,S,R
Mihawk likes to play w his food just like he did zoro so when u said vista was in his way that was disrespectful
I’m seeing lots of cope. Luffy and zoro have always been relative to each other right. Luffy is going to surpass shanks by a lot. Zoro is going to surpass mihawk by a little. Mihawk>shanks
Y’all act as if it’s factual when it’s not, if you believe mihawk is stronger cool but don’t make it seem like it’s factual until we actually see something
@@smarty1268 It IS factual, Shankstards just refuse to lisiten to facts and instead choose to inhale massive amounts of copium
Mihawk=shanks end it
Mihawk > shanks
I just wanna say one thing Did Mihawk ever beat Shanks ? And I u guys say that Mihawk is WSS and so he automatically stronger than Shanks then thats just your speculations Oda never wrote that Mihawk is stronger than Shanks
They both fought and it was a draw
Narrative it makes no sense the world's strongest sword man to be weaker than other swordman if that's the case why doesn't zoro chase after shanks
@@kingflamedezun3469 that's because oda chose to Cut off Shanks arm so that Mihawk can be Made a stepping stone for Zoro Goal
@@mahirsharma7789 shanks still weaker tho
Vista could handle both of them.
Shanks is stronger than Mihawk end of discussion. Are we forgetting that Shanks is a YONKOU? 😂😂😂😂😂
The Yonko title isn't about individual strength, it's simply a title that reflects your political heirarchy amongst pirates, so if you're talking about individual capabilities Mihawk's title is higher than Shanks since his title is purely about individual power whilst Shanks' title is purely about Politics
Yonko status doesn't have to do with power. Obviously the yonkos are about the strongest pirates in the world, but the Yonko title is about crew, territory, influence, all the things mihawk doesn't give a damn about. He doesn't even have a crew and he doesn't care about territory or being a yonko.He just wants freedom and to find new challengers
All I know is Mihawk fought shaanks and couldn't beat him , and after this Shanks lost his Fav arm and the reason why Mihawk doesn't fight him now is because out of pride, Mihawk couldn't beat shanks at his best and When He lost his arm Mihawk sees no gain in fighting shanks who isn't at best
Even though Oda has already confirmed that Shanks strength haven't declined a bit even after losing his dominant arm. And its world greatest Swordsman not strongest Mihawk sword skills are greatest in OP world amd that doesn't mean he beats shanks cuc just with sword skills u cannot win its simple They Both fought And it was a draw and if u think that Now that Mihawk doesn't fight shanks is because he is now gotten weaker than Mihawk They u read The OP the wrong way
The title literally says strongest not greatest, plus Oda talked abt his power not declining not his fighting capabilities. Even his own film red databook calls him a swordsman which means he’s weaker than mihawk
@@danieljoseph3013 did he beat him ? When did he get his title ? Was it after shanks lost his arm cuz before this Mihawk never had so called strongest Swordsman title . Roger uses swords too Does that makr him Weaker than Mihawk?
@@mahirsharma7789 Roger is dead lmao. Mihawk got his title after rogers death. Mihawk didnt beat shanks but shanks also didnt beat mihawk so u cant prove shanks was stronger. Mihawk has 0 scars on him too.
@@tejasiyer1923 Zero Scars so what ?
Bro he rarely Fights people
On the other hand shanks is a pirate people come after them
@@mahirsharma7789 his whole thing before Shanks lost his arm was fighting people. He was known as marine hunter. He and Shanks dueled hella. His vivre card states that he is waiting to fight someone who surpasses his old rival shanks. Mihawk >= Shanks
Shanks is prime Roger level while Mihawk is around Vista.
You're being so disingenuous.
Shame on you simp you are shame mihawk is yonko levl waiting for someone to surpass him and shanks that's zoro simp
@@vokenando4160 mihawk is equal to shanks they both Yonko lvl why mihawk wait for some one who is stronger than him and shanks it's zoro
@@saidbachlil4264 I agree. There's a reason that Oda is saving Mihawk for endgame.
@@vokenando4160 of course
Luffy>shanks
Zoro>shanks
Oden>shanks
😂😂😂😂
All three have better feats and portrayal
Bro are you on drugs? The only person on that list You could argue is Oden 💀
Shanks barley has feats, and Luffy ain't yonko level, neither is Zoro.Zoro barley defeated king. He hasn't clashed with Whitebeard or stop a war just by showing up.Kaido even views shanks as a threat, gtfo.You troll
So I guess you think right now Zoro should be strong enough to fight mihawk? 💀 He barley beat king, and king would've killed him
Regardless if shanks is a swordsman or not armament haki can beat conquerors haki also when mihawk and shanks tied when shanks had both his arms also we haven’t seen mihawk really break a sweat so we don’t really know his full power he very well could be stronger than roger thats why this is all debatable no one wants to believe it