ROG NUC Hands On, The Ultimate Mini Gaming PC! A Performance Edge Over The Rest
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- In this video we take look at the all New ASUS ROG NUC 970 mini gaming PC! This mini PC is awesome and at the time of testingg it my favorite mini gaming pc to date! Powered by an Intel Ultra 9 185H and backed by an RTX 4070 the ROG NUC can play any PC game 1440P or above! We do an unboxing, a Quick tear down, go over the specs, run some benchmarks and test some AAA PC games like cyberpunk 2077, Horizon forbidden West, Halldivers 2, Skyrim and More!
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00:00 Introduction
00:17 Unboxing the ASUS ROG NUC 970
01:26 Overview ASUS ROG NUC 970
02:38 Specs ASUS ROG NUC 970
04:03 Cyberpunk 2077 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
04:38 Overall performance and TDP ASUS ROG NUC 970
07:10 Benchmarks ASUS ROG NUC 970
07:55 Helldivers 2 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
08:26 Skyrim 4K ASUS ROG NUC 970
08:43 Forza Horizon 5 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
09:13 Spiderman 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
09:32 Red Dead 2 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
10:01 Horizon Forbidden West 1440P ASUS ROG NUC 970
10:42 Power Consumption and Temps ASUS ROG NUC 970
11:52 First Impressions - Hry
It's too expensive.
I'm going to answer like a zoomer ready!
What are you poor or something?
@@Asfanboy1 It is still a valid point though... you can get the Thunderobot Mix, which is almost a like for like copy of this NUC, only using a 13900H CPU (same performance as the Ultra 185H, maybe even marginally beter), only costs half the price. It's quite an upsell for the brand name.
But I like watching these techpron videos of things I can’t afford.
can build a better pc with that type of cash...this will obvious won't go well in sales. Wait till Dec, they will either slash price or simply stop its prodcution
@@Asfanboy1 Don't call people poor bro, this day and age times are tough for people. I mean it's not "expensive" but if someone bought it that's tight on budget it could definitely be inconvenient for them
ASUS Warranty: Your claim was denied because you added additional storage.
Nah that warranty left with the peel😂
And charged $500 to fix because it's got a tiny scratch!
ASUS warranty issues were almost entirely in communication and upsells. They're not credibly accused of actually denying valid warranty work. The communication makes it sound like you have to agree to the upsell to get the legitimate work. But if you declined they still did the required work.
Still shady. But not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be. The far bigger problem is turn around times longer than a month. So most people would have to buy a second computer anyway.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Did you not see Steve's video where ASUS threatened to return his game in pieces if he didn't pay the several hundred dollars to "fix" the slight blemish on the exterior plastic? When he sent it in for a bad joystick that they didn't even mention?
@fred_derf Yes, I did. And I've read many other accounts as well. In none of them was the console returned in pieces. And in all of them the required warranty work was done correctly. The problem is 100% with communication and 0% with actually performing warranty work.
Customer: hi, sd card slot is not working
Asus: pay us $100 and ship at your cost and we will tell you the same thing
You forgot if you don’t pay up, they send it back in parts lol
Pay more than the PC to fix a microscopic dent on the side
Absolutely crazy price for the hardware inside.
....that said, how much is it in UK?
You guys get fucked in the UK... They just take the USD price and throw your money symbol on it 😆 would literally be cheaper for you guys to just import from America with shipping than buying it in the UK
@@paulgilmartin5675
I didn't catch any pricing conveniently in the video.
From what I can see, it's about £1740 (prices will vary by site).
But it is basically just a 4070 laptop with the screen, keyboard and trackpad removed.
You can buy an RTX 4070 laptop for about £600 less. So you're paying a 50% premium for them to give you less stuff.
Right! The Ultra 7 sku is priced crazy, but the $570 increase for the Ultra 9 with otherwise identical specs is insane.
what's the price ? says out of stock for me
That looks awesome! Let me see the Canadian price!
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$2200 for the base 4060 model, $2999 for the 4070...
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Le sigh.
i hear you. The price of these things, inspite of their awesome size and form factor, always humbles back down to reality when I realize what you could be getting for the same price in a mini itx desktop
Hmm let me look at the Australian price $3499, $4299... strewth!!
RNUC 14SRKU 7168 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $1,629.00
RNUC 14SRKU 9189 AUI : ASUS (estore) price $2,199.00
Ouch ...
@@markrotondella4689 Yikes, and the AUD is worth almost the same as the CAD 😬
Hmm let me look at vietnam price !
41.000.000 vnd for the base 4060 .... wait what the f ? Why this shit is so expensive ?
Once again, You might as well get a regular gaming desktop. For the same price You'll get double the RAM & SSD space with the same graphics and performance. Mini-PCs are SUPPOSED to be cheaper, but the ones being reviewed on here never are.
Eta prime has been doing this for years it's his thing.
@Runescope i'm fine paying more for a more compact computer with higher density parts and lower power consumption. But I draw the line at laptops. There is no reason this should be more expensive than already overpriced laptops.
This thing might have better cooling capabilities. So yes, a comparable laptop might be same performance, but will sound like a turbine.
@@Bajicoy if it had a laptop 4090 would've considered the price but even then it still seems to expensive especially when it doesn't have a keyboard, monitor or mouse lol
Who told you that Mini-PCs are "SUPPOSED" to be cheaper?
This crap has 1k worth of hardware and costs 2.5k. ASUS once again proving how bad they are as a company.
Asus : open laptop design proposal, remove the screen,keyboard and battery, now we can charge more 😂
Yeah wtf like you can find comparable notebooks for 1600-1700 and this costs 50% more while having less components? Lmao
This sh*t is a scam 😂😂😂
Well what you expect a $500 mini PC that could game?
@@frankwong9486 it's sad cause I would love something like this behind my tv to play on my couch
Performance and form factor is awesome but the price is garbage.
Can't wait to get this 5 years from now!
very true lol. way too expensive right now
Some of these mini pcs are so expensive you're better off buying a laptop to set next to your monitor.
It's more a home console to play on the couch. A normal desktop is too big in a living room. But yeah it's expensive.
@@Thesavagesouls So put a laptop next to your TV. I wasn’t just thinking about this particular product, but mid-to-high performance mini-PCs in general. Most are at least as expensive as a comparably equipped laptop.
Its like laptop without display n keyboard, but price like g16 strix, damn intel
It's actually the only device that lets 1 series processor to run at 100+W TDP continuously(so far). Might be interesting for someone, but pointless for the most people
Blame the ROG tax, NOT Intel.
@@LucienneGainsborough bcuz who is gonna pay 1700 for a 4060 16gb ram and 512 ssd
Asus purchased the nuc division from Intel, the price is all on Asus here...
I dont care, intel and asus same shit greedy
ASUS: Did you just download Armory Crate? AND change our fan curves when we had them set to a automatic setting? Warranty voided because you pressed the power button.
Did you open the box at all? Warranty. voided.
Armoury Crate is the bane of my existence.
The day when this channel reviews something I find affordable :D
Yeah. Not the same ETAPrime I signed up for all those years ago...
Spoken like someone that randomly landed on the video and doesn't watch most of ETA's videos
@@mechanicalmonk2020 ok you might have $1000 to buy a handheld that give you PS3 graphics, but I do not.
@@mechanicalmonk2020 One things for sure. Even when it's ASUS, when you look at their web site for the 4060 + 4070 versions, they aren't available. That rarely changes.
@@ghostfreckle I remember the raspberry PI videos.
Pretty solid. Price is a bit high considering it's basically one of their laptops without a screen.
Just a bit high? More like ridiculously high 😂
This thing should be $1500 at best
Omg 😮
At best it should be $800
At worst $1200
This is always my feeling on small form factor gaming based on laptop tech. Why not just get a laptop?
Yeah, this thing is so confusing. You can get the 2024 4070 G14 with an awesome OLED, great speakers, good form factor, 32GB RAM for $1999 new through BestBuy in the US. That laptop also being an ASUS product, portable, with a battery, keyboard, screen, what in the world is the point of this computer, barring the Intel Ultra 9?
try the AtomMan X7 Ti... half that price.
300W NUC, from ASUS. Nice :))) firefighter's dream.
I don't know what they're doing with that. This thing is far too expensive. The graphics seemed underwhelming, and my understanding is that the laptop graphics chips from Nvidia use model numbers on laptops that correspond to the next lower desktop card, so that this 4070 performs as a 4060 desktop does (putting form factor and cooling aside). And this i9 laptop is more like a i5 desktop.
Close, the 4060 ti is the tier below the mobile 4070 and is close in performance. Nvidia's naming scheme is very dumb and intentionally misleading
Close. 4070 laptop is a 3070 equivalent
Hey atleast the 4060 performs very close to its desktop counter part. Like 5% differences.
Would've justified the price of thy slapped a full power mobile 4090 in their and more storage
It's finally here, that took forever since it was initially shown off.
Nice Video! Pair with some camping battery pack and an external display and your are good to go!!
Misspelled Helldivers as Halldivers in the description.
Love the video though!
They're different games. One is about being a middle schooler trying to sneak around during class to smoke cigarettes in the bathroom and avoiding Hall Monitors.
Hopefully this is more reliable than some of their other stuff. Had fans and all sorts crap out on me, with asus gear.
i have a 12 year old asus laptop that was submerged in a flood then thrown at a wall. it still works. Asus has been a beast for me
The price is going to kill this, it's $1000 more than it should be.
rog nuc w/ core ultra 9 185H + mobile rtx 4070 8gb + 32gb ram + 512gb ssd: $2199
literally the exact same specs but with only 16gb ram in the zephyrus g16 laptop with battery+16" 240hz OLED+keyboard built-in: $1999
..yeah you're getting ripped off, this thing needs to be $400 cheaper at minimum
What going everybody it's ETA PRIME back you again... I miss this intro. I remember old videos
Again the price doesn't align with the specs. You can get a similarly configured gaming laptop for under $1500, and you get a screen, battery, keyboard, and speakers thrown in for good measure.
Why would you compare it to a laptop when it's clearly a desktop
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Because it's using a laptop CPU, GPU, RAM, and power supply? It's literally a laptop in a different form factor with less stuff.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 bro watch the vidéo again. It uses freaking laptop components 😂
Intel Core Ultra 9, RTX 4070 Mobile, ... etc
But I don't understand why this cost more than a similar spec'd laptop while having less stuff ( screen, keyboard and trackpad, battery,...)
Nice! I'm hoping as we get more traditional manufacturers making these gaming Mini PCs it will help get us more options. I'm still leaning towards a Mini PC future when it's time to replace my current desktop, the space savings and power savings have become tempting enough for the trade off in power
Nah at this price I could get a steam deck oled and a dock for near the same performance.
@@brandonrobinson3829 same performance vs a dedicated GPU?
Hey ETA did you forget to do a walk through of the ports on this mini pc
Fantastic... until we got to the 8gb of vram instead of 12gb. Hard pass.
For someone who is clueless with PCs, can you explain why?
Hey ETA PRIME, great video like always.
I have a question, which mini-PC do you think is better the ROG NUC 970 or the Mix Mini Game Box?
Looking at your videos on both, I would realy appreciate your input on which you consider the best for gaming.
Actually, pretty cool! ❤
Kinda jealous with my 3060 laptop now. lol
Seeing some emulation might be neat.
Hoping for a PC physical media comeback in SD format with these card readers. Like inserting a SD card in stream deck and games appearing in the library.
Impressive for the size. Wonder how those low power cores and the iGPU perform for older stuff using less energy.
Amazing what a beast
They need to make a mass market $199 TV box. If all these companies can make a $500 handheld with an expensive battery and touch screen, and all the other extra components like buttons, speakers, mics, gyros, etc, I am sure someone can put out a decent AMD APU box for $199 and still make a profit.
Helldivers 2 does not support DLSS.
It's not DLSS, it's their own scaling, but has nothing to do with artificial upscaling.......
Could we see some emulation performance with this? I'm curious how it compares to some of the other NUCs you've reviewed.
With a gaming system that small, I don't mind it being a lil thicker for better cooling.
So many good machines, not enough good games
I've been waiting so long for this one! The worthy enthusiast NUC successor
I’ve subscribed to this channel not too long ago because I’m working on a cyberdeck. I feel consumed by capitalism just by looking at your videos.
Oh hey same
@@Gore_Whvre Great! Do you mind sharing what you use? I guess a raspberry Pi 5?
Would Be perfect for a person like me who lives in a tiny studio, but not for no freaking 2K
The Ultimate Mini PC until his next video tops it off.
want this
Can you show off Retrobat and Batocera Emulation on this little guy? Thanks ETA :)
A little lag in your audio bro. Great review.
Form factor and branding are the real reasons for the cost. Most of us can build a similar spec machine but not with a similar size. It looks good to me, and just like I did with to get my steamdeck, when the handhelds PC came out, I'll wait for another OEM to produce a competitive product and lower the costs.
I would love to see proper support (including vendor' software) for Linux on this kind of device. For me it's might me a new gen of Steam Machines when Valve will realese SteamOS for every device.
my homemade budget mini pc with 3d printed case using desktop hardware uses bearly 100 watts during gaming
how did you get your 3d printed case though
@@bluetech2809 i designed my own and printed it
Great mini pc. One thing I don't understand way this ultra mini pc makers don't just add a dedicated infrared and Bluetooth fly mouse remote control. At this point i just wanna replace my streaming device and just have a all in one device for gaming, streaming and computer on my tv.
If you consider the size, especially with the external power supply, you're better off building a mini ITX system with, for example, the Velka 3 case and you'll end up with about the same size and a better cooling system. Plus, it's easily half the price.
They need to release one of these using the new strix point apus.
Great review so far... Nice seeing this new release by rog
OG Skyrim, we're having mammoth steaks 🥩🤤
😂🤣
You can get 4070 laptops for $1500 so this feels like it's very poorly priced. Sure it's going to perform better because it doesn't have the same power restrictions and the cooling on this is probably better, but still I feel like this should maximum be $1500 because they've cut the screen, battery, camera, etc.
Hey, did you see the new GPD DUO? It is really crazy, I am waiting for a review on your chanel
Consider the recent track record of ASUS I would not buy anything from them until they proven to be trustworthy once again. I still have my rog ally with faulty sd card slot, I made wise decision didn't sent rma otherwise my ally might be one of those been hold hostage.
Hey ETA, do you have any rwcommendations for a usb-c dock for running two 144 hrtz monitors using a gaming laptop?
Doesn't seem like companies are making things like this wothout it costing the price of the laptop itself.
Dayummmm $2k,
Thats like 3 ROG Allys
4:50 What's happening with the CPU? What tasks are you running in the background?
Okay, listen to me: I recently bought the NUC 12 Enthusiasts (32Gb+1T) for $900 and compared to the ROG NUC:
- x0.8 CPU strength (12700H)
- x0.7 GPU strength at x1.33 VRAM (Arc A770M 16Gb)
- TWO USB4 ports. I was surprised to see only 1 port on this ROG NUC
- Same 330W power brick
What do you think? I think $3000 for this generation of NUC is batsh*t crazy!
How well does the Arc 770M generally do? I hear it's surprisingly good in some places, of course lacking in others. I don't have a good read on the general place where it stands.
@@SwordfighterRed Short answer:
- A770M is a full desktop A770, just running at lower TDP. This is the main reason when I bought the NUC.
- 1080p60 Ultra or 1440p60 High (except unoptimized AAA titles)
- Frame time: some stutters/1 hour of gaming.
- Bugs: I encountered some, can get annoying. Reinstall drivers to fix.
I will give a longer answer below. I felt the same ambiguity before buying intel ARC so I want to share too.
@@SwordfighterRed Long answer: potentially, the A770(M) is a sleeping beast, packed with raw hardware power. However, it depends on driver support of intel & developers into the future. For example: I recently finished Uncharted 4, a DX12 game, on my NUC at 1080p Ultra averaging around 70fps. Starfield, another DX12 game, runs at 20-30fps regardless of 2K or 4K resolution. You get the idea.
Outside gaming, it's also ridiculously good at video editing. I use CapCut to make vertical videos and 4K scrubbing is flawless, rendering is fast (1m30s video = 15s). Video editing is perfection with Arc cards because intel plays well with Adobe and DaVinci and such. On the other hand, it is hard to deploy AI models because there is little support, requiring even more workarounds than AMD cards. It's pretty power efficient though.
In conclusion, right now A770M = 3060, potentially it can sit between a 4060 ti and a 4070, and we are talking about a mobile card with desktop capabilities. Yet again it depends so much on the future of Alchemist/Battlemage support. Essentially I'm betting on the A770M based on the fact that intel is still making cards such as A580/A750. Hopefully it serves me for a long time.
Back in stock
Thank God! I'm going to buy five of them 👍🤥
@@dustinspencer9278 hahah they have 3 in microcenter lol but idk for how long
Much as I do like mini-PCs and this one really does have a nice aesthetic, but I think the manufacturers are really missing the mark with the pricing.
if it cost the same, if not more, than an equivalent high end laptop with the same specs, what is the point of buying the mini-PC?
It needs to be cheaper by at least the price of the keyboard, mouse, monitor and speakers/headphone you don't get.
It looks like a nighthawk wireless router 😂
These are pretty expensive, but it's nice to see a bunch of power in a small chassis.
If you settle for a slightly larger size, you could build a custom ITX PC with a 4070, maybe with a little weaker CPU for probably about $1k.
You could make an even smaller ITX rig with a 4060 low profile for around $700-ish.
I wished they made a model with the 4090 inside.
Love ya ETA but the 4060 ti desktop outperforms the 4070 mobile by 20% (at least) you can easily build a mini pc setup with 4060 ti for far less and better performance
The only reason I would have gone for a solution like this over a laptop would be the temps. And the temps are too damn high.
Can you test Ark Survival Ascended? I'm curious to see how it will perform
Hi, is it possible to see if it can run Steam OS with BAZZITE ? and see a speed comparaison with windows ?
Anything ROG is a big NO from me, I do not wish to see how my RMA doesn't pass because of ASUS...
You could just repair it yourself or pay someone else that can.
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 you do understand you are paying "asus tax" and getting worse warranty coverage than you can with "cheaper" brands, right?
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 Well that is the issue, in EU there is a law for RMA and warranty, and Asus is not following the law, why should I pay and repair issues that ASUS created and doesn't want to fix...
Truthfully they used to be the top company, and I really loved them, but after the issue with my 3070 ROG and being unable to get a refund for a broken card (that was bought straight from Asus) I honestly can't trust them, and then after the GamerNexus video about the same thing the opinion of them just disappeared totally. They are as trustworthy as the politicians...
So this is just a laptop without the screen and keyboard but with better cooling for more money...
Don't forget you can't turn it on without being plugged.
@@threeequalsd4865 👍
For those of you who don't want little boys gaming aesthetics or crazy asus prices there's a case called the fractal design ridge that'll fit an ITX motherboard, psu, and a graphics card in what looks to be about the size of a PS5. You'd think assembling a PC is difficult but you save so much more than the effort tax will buy, and it gives you something fun to do and customize
I know NUC's are an Intel brand, but i would like to see more miniPC's like this with a Ryzen CPU and a dedicated GPU.
Well there is the Minisforum HX99G with Ryzen 9 6900HX + RX 6650M Xt 8GB of VRAM. Note that the RX6650M XT performs the same as its desktop counterpart. Waiting foe HX100G tho.
I can not speak of the quality but the thunderobot mix has basically the exact same specs for way cheaper i believe the 4070 version is only like 1200£
ASUS's employee of the month going for the yearly title too.
if You could test Baldur's gate 3, and ghost of tsushima thanks
Special use case, indeed. For me the size savings isn't worth forking out the $2100. Not even close. Especially not to a company like ASUS given their antics as of late. I think i'd rather just put something together in a Fractal Terra for a little bit larger of a footprint and have individual component upgradability to boot.
This looks cool and all but I would rather have a laptop with that hardware.
Hey m8! where can I find this Rog Neon animated wallpaper, the first one
Would be nice for a minimalist setup
Emulations test please 😁🥺
try out ghelper is awesome but i dont know if is gonna work with the new nucs but it works with rog laptop
$2200 for the 4070 version 😳
And you still only get 16gb RAM and 512gb SSD
I'm not the brokest broke boy, but this should be $1500 MAX and that's pushing it.
This is a cool small form factor mini gaming PC... And I get that it's a laptop variant GPU but I think it's so sad that it's a 4070 with only 8 gigabytes of RAM
Can you do an external GPU, with one of the snapdragon laptops
Can’t wait to get this at a big discount next year along with the ally x because no one bought them over warranty issues. 😂😂
4:12 100c degrees on the cpu, brand new looks dangerous. when you get some dust inside the throtlling will be inminent .
Is this more powerful than my ps5 and series x is the graphics on this way better than my series x and ps5?
I want to see a good price and warranty running on it.
I bet you could cook eggs on this thing, at full throttle 😂
Did you mean A price tag over the rest 😂?
Pls unboxing Mini Pc ice soul ryzen 7 8845hs + portable eGPU
Not only the price but only one USB-C port is very strange. Also this should be able to run out of that USB-C port in low-power mode
Probably just get a laptop at this point for less and spend what you saved towards the monitor.
You could, but most laptops hard limit the TDP on the CPU/GPU since the cooling and battery wouldn't be about to keep up. So you'd never get the most out of it
@ColorblindMonk it would be fine a 4090 laptop can keep up with most desktops today easily
This is exactly what I said for the price this is you can get a laptop with a great screen (like asus own g16) that will perform very similar and have a oled screen for the same price if not less.
@@ColorblindMonk Anyone looking into this sorta pre-built probably isn't going to be the getting-the-most-out-of-it "type" anyway, I reckon.
Maybe It's just me, But the practicality gains to reap by picking a laptop over this far outweigh the relatively miniscule performance difference (I reckon) you'd end up with.
Also, Depending on what machine we're talking about, I can't seem to convince myself to think this thing cools itself any better than a comparative laptop.
imma wait till it drops to $1500 lmao
I expect more videos of this ROG NUC ETA Prime!!!
helldivers 2 had dlss now? since when? i though the dev said they dont need those upscaling method
Where can i buy this its out of stock on the website
It's nice but just get a GPD winmax and desktop GPU, best of both worlds and you can carry it with you and use it when away from home
Hello, what's your Aura Wallpaper at 12:04?
Any news about the Atomman G7 Pt ?
Any updates about Tecno Mini Gaming PC?