As an electrician one negative I have to say about the Lenox is the blade has too much play which makes it difficult when doing cut ins. I love how easy it is to change blades and that it folds up easily as well so it doesn't take up as much room in my bag
I found the same thing, to much play, I like the blade to not have any movement and so far I have not found a folding saw that doesn't have play, for that, you still need to use a fixed blade.
Great video, I have a Lenox, had it for 24 plus years, love it. my Milwaukee that I bought has been returned twice because of the locking failing. Staying with Lenox for now :)
Yay I just bought this after hearing someone mention a Stanley folding pocket saw. I saw the milwaukee one but something drew me to this. I know it would probably come in handy more for drywallers, but i am definitely adding this in my toolbelt, as there are still many times when im up on a ladder and there's a nail or small piece of metal i need to cut and have to go back down and get the reciprocating saw. Also cutting closet bolts on a toilet if you don't have a Dremel or some way to grind the ends off.
Not a sawzall blade, but Olfa makes a pull saw blade for their 25mm handles and it's one of my favorite lightweight saws. I haven't found anything so effective yet compact. HSWB-1. Great for PVC, trim, etc.
Hey Doc, did you know the LENOX can hold a Regular HackSaw Blade!? You slide it in the Slot in the Bottom of the Handle and tighten the Phillips Screw down on it. Check it out.
I like the Lenox. I'm going to have a go at making my own from scratch to hold the 12 inch blades. I made one that doesn't fold and a sheath but I'd like to make a folder with it's own sheath to take camping.
I have a tool bag dedicated to doing underground electrical work like PVC and this tool was one of the first things put in that bag a couple years back, super nice to put a blade in of any length and go to town cutting pvc pipe in hard to reach spurs you can’t typically get with a sawzall
I just bought a Fiskars Pro Power Tooth folding jab saw that accepts recip saw blades. Main reason was how compact the handle was for fitting in my Veto Tech LC.
I had that Lenox years ago and same design and I hated it because I had to tighten the aluminum wheel all the time and if it is super tight it will start to come loose! I switched to the Milwaukee folding and it works as I need it depending on the 6 inch blade.
These things piss me off. Years ago I started with, and had two Stanleys which are weak plastic POS, prone to break BUT unlike any other I've seen, has BLADE STORAGE in the handle. So you can have a spare, or maybe a wood cutting and metal cutting blade. I see no reason why some of these others cannot do the same. A few years ago I bought a Milwaukee which I accidently ran across in a store. At least it is fairly strong. I'm 74, now, and don't use it much. Spent about 12 years in HVAC/R, mostly service, and installed E911 radio/ telco/ data equipment for a few years. You can saw a 2x4 or 2x6 through in short order with one of these. I once sawed about a 3" green tree through that had my rig "stuck."
I hope it works out for you. I have an older version of the Lennox. The blade retention works fine but the catch for the blade position fails in moderate use. I haven’t hurt myself with it yet but as much as I like the folders, a fixed position handle with quick-change capability may be a more reliable option for me. Maybe they’ve fixed the problem.
Hi, Doc. I've found on my folding Milwaukee that you can use the open button to "over unfold" the blade beyond its 180 degree position. Then the blade release works without a hitch
i'm looking for something i can daily carry. so far, as far as reliability and size, that snap-on looks the best for me. the other ones seem too "plasticy" and bulky for my taste.
That snap on looks like something i would make ha. Its mechanism is like the dewalt one, which you can also put a hacksaw blade in. Havent used it too much so cant say if it holds up. The dewalt has a classic saw handle style which i appreciate though.
Curious if you have any new favorites since the release of this video. Looks like ToughBuilt offers a folding option as well. Curious if you have any experience with it, or willing to do a comparison with it. Thanks!
hi thanks what blade would you go for when doing metal jobs like cutting a screw head off or sawing a bolt stem etc, they type of little bolloky jobs, thanks
Hey Doc, Fiskars has the Power Tooth compact utility saw (US ref 730400-1001) (EU ref 1062934). It seems fairly new on the market, no thorough review online. Foldable, cannot accomodate hacksaw blades like the Lenox, can accomodate longer recip blades (slot at the bottom of the handle), locking mechanism without loose parts. As for the grip and the quality of the locking mechanism, I can't give any feedback since I just ordered it.
I don't truly love any of these but I think the older milwaukee one with the push collar seems to be the best one to buy for the mechanism. The newer milwaukee one seems to be number two. I held the lennox one and diidn't like the fitment. blade wasn't indexing into the slot really well. Just felt like molds weren't done very well. I do like the magnet though.
I'm surprised at the diversity of opinions over folding saws. Some love the Lenox, some don't. The Milwaukee gets mixed reviews, and Klein leads the pack with some. I guess that's why I always keep an eye out for a better folding jab saw. None of them are perfect.
@@lastbesttool Yeh, I get it. I would love to find a folding saw that has a solid feel. I just could never get that Lenox to tighten up. I just discovered your channel am have become an instant fan. ✌🏼
@@lastbesttool Do you know if there is a design reason for the big silver knob to come off every time the blade is changed? Like, to fit a certain type of blade? I used my Lenox today and was reminded of this feature. If there isn't a reason to fully remove it, a captive knob would be more convenient. Thanks for the look.
I didn’t know this was a thing ! How cool. Another tool you show that I’m going to go get !
Tbh, as a Milwauke HATER, I must say touche! They are the only ones that did proper quick release with foldable saw and high quality...
I think the Milwaukee looks the most solid and simple. Great idea to have a manual version for such a wide variety of pre-existing blades!
I have the milwaukee and mine doesn't stick at all. Press the button and the blade comes right out.
As an electrician one negative I have to say about the Lenox is the blade has too much play which makes it difficult when doing cut ins. I love how easy it is to change blades and that it folds up easily as well so it doesn't take up as much room in my bag
I found the same thing, to much play, I like the blade to not have any movement and so far I have not found a folding saw that doesn't have play, for that, you still need to use a fixed blade.
Great video, I have a Lenox, had it for 24 plus years, love it. my Milwaukee that I bought has been returned twice because of the locking failing. Staying with Lenox for now :)
Yay I just bought this after hearing someone mention a Stanley folding pocket saw. I saw the milwaukee one but something drew me to this. I know it would probably come in handy more for drywallers, but i am definitely adding this in my toolbelt, as there are still many times when im up on a ladder and there's a nail or small piece of metal i need to cut and have to go back down and get the reciprocating saw. Also cutting closet bolts on a toilet if you don't have a Dremel or some way to grind the ends off.
Not a sawzall blade, but Olfa makes a pull saw blade for their 25mm handles and it's one of my favorite lightweight saws. I haven't found anything so effective yet compact. HSWB-1. Great for PVC, trim, etc.
THANK YOU
A folding drywall saw is helpful in that the fixed blade ones sometimes damages hands and tool bags. Thanks for showing the Lennox model.
Hey Doc, did you know the LENOX can hold a Regular HackSaw Blade!? You slide it in the Slot in the Bottom of the Handle and tighten the Phillips Screw down on it. Check it out.
Cool. Thanks! I'll try it.
I like the Lenox. I'm going to have a go at making my own from scratch to hold the 12 inch blades. I made one that doesn't fold and a sheath but I'd like to make a folder with it's own sheath to take camping.
I have a tool bag dedicated to doing underground electrical work like PVC and this tool was one of the first things put in that bag a couple years back, super nice to put a blade in of any length and go to town cutting pvc pipe in hard to reach spurs you can’t typically get with a sawzall
I just bought a Fiskars Pro Power Tooth folding jab saw that accepts recip saw blades. Main reason was how compact the handle was for fitting in my Veto Tech LC.
I had that Lenox years ago and same design and I hated it because I had to tighten the aluminum wheel all the time and if it is super tight it will start to come loose! I switched to the Milwaukee folding and it works as I need it depending on the 6 inch blade.
Milwaukee is the clear winner by far!
Hello again Doc
Thank you for another Great Video. Right now I am good not needing a saw. But all tool information is good. Again thank you
These things piss me off. Years ago I started with, and had two Stanleys which are weak plastic POS, prone to break BUT unlike any other I've seen, has BLADE STORAGE in the handle. So you can have a spare, or maybe a wood cutting and metal cutting blade. I see no reason why some of these others cannot do the same. A few years ago I bought a Milwaukee which I accidently ran across in a store. At least it is fairly strong. I'm 74, now, and don't use it much. Spent about 12 years in HVAC/R, mostly service, and installed E911 radio/ telco/ data equipment for a few years. You can saw a 2x4 or 2x6 through in short order with one of these. I once sawed about a 3" green tree through that had my rig "stuck."
I hope it works out for you. I have an older version of the Lennox. The blade retention works fine but the catch for the blade position fails in moderate use. I haven’t hurt myself with it yet but
as much as I like the folders, a fixed position handle with quick-change capability may be a more reliable option for me.
Maybe they’ve fixed the problem.
Try the toughbuilt jab saw
Hi, Doc. I've found on my folding Milwaukee that you can use the open button to "over unfold" the blade beyond its 180 degree position. Then the blade release works without a hitch
Can find that first Milwaukee, any ideas where I can get one?
i'm looking for something i can daily carry. so far, as far as reliability and size, that snap-on looks the best for me.
the other ones seem too "plasticy" and bulky for my taste.
Would you have the part number for the Milwaukee non folding design that you showed at the first of the video? Thanks.
I want the part number too. I have been trying to track down an old used or new one. I had one and lost it along time ago
That snap on looks like something i would make ha. Its mechanism is like the dewalt one, which you can also put a hacksaw blade in. Havent used it too much so cant say if it holds up. The dewalt has a classic saw handle style which i appreciate though.
Curious if you have any new favorites since the release of this video. Looks like ToughBuilt offers a folding option as well. Curious if you have any experience with it, or willing to do a comparison with it. Thanks!
Nothing new yet, but I've head from several folks about the Toughbuilt. I need to check it out.
I've used all kinds of jab saws. For cutting into sheetrock, nothing beats that Klein.
Do you think Will it cut polymer plastic?
The klein is so nice I love it
Hello. What is the model of the second Milwaukee?
I've seen these around; no idea what to use it for other than cutting into drywall. I do have a compact Makita recip. It works well.
We also use them as bone saws including in the field when hunting.
@@lastbesttool That makes sense.
Is anyone able to find the old non-folding Milwaukee version with the pole hole and standard Sawzall twist lock anywhere online?
I have been searching for it a long time. I haven't found it. I looked on ebay used stuff, no luck.
is there a part number on the older style Milwaukee saw blade handle. I would like to find one to fit a paint roller handle. thx
I want the part number too
all i want is that Lenox blade for my Milwaukee handle but i cant find it separate
Check out the renegade outdoors microlite saw. It accepts t shank blades. Will not replace a folding saws all but will probably be very interesting
The Knife Point Gear "World's Lightest Backpacking Saw" is another very cool one 👍
I'm not really a fan of folding saws. Had the Milwaukee for 2 years and went back to a fixed blade
5” needle nose visegrips. Jig saw, sawzaw, hack saw blade. Chaep and simple.
good for a cut or two. I wouldn't use it to do a room of drywall cuts though.
@@michaelbuddy will the knifes cut polymers you think?
What is the product number for that non-folding Milwaukee handle with the pole end?
I had this non-folding Milwaukee and loved it. I can't find it anymore.
the dewalt 5-in-1 hack saw. the top handle can be removed to be set up as a jab saw
Is there a standard sawzall blade length? Where did you get that plastic box to store your sawzall blades in?
you forgot to show you can put a blade in the other side at the bottom of the handle
hi thanks what blade would you go for when doing metal jobs like cutting a screw head off or sawing a bolt stem etc, they type of little bolloky jobs, thanks
So u do prefer this over the milwaukee we saw in your backpack???
Hey Doc, Fiskars has the Power Tooth compact utility saw (US ref 730400-1001) (EU ref 1062934).
It seems fairly new on the market, no thorough review online. Foldable, cannot accomodate hacksaw blades like the Lenox, can accomodate longer recip blades (slot at the bottom of the handle), locking mechanism without loose parts. As for the grip and the quality of the locking mechanism, I can't give any feedback since I just ordered it.
Nice one Doc, I have the folding Milwaukee one it's alright but the blade holding is what I dislike about it.
I don't truly love any of these but I think the older milwaukee one with the push collar seems to be the best one to buy for the mechanism. The newer milwaukee one seems to be number two. I held the lennox one and diidn't like the fitment. blade wasn't indexing into the slot really well. Just felt like molds weren't done very well. I do like the magnet though.
The old Milwaukee style was the best I ever had
Milwaukee is not available and / or has changed...
The first Milwaukee is out of market???
I think so. I have looked everywhere for it
Nice overview. I have the Stanley Fatmax folding one. Piece of junk. Wobbly blade/folding detent and not very sharp.
I have the Lenox and can't stand it. The mechanism is sloppy and counter intuitive. Next, I'm trying the Milwaukee version w the original blade clamp.
I'm surprised at the diversity of opinions over folding saws. Some love the Lenox, some don't. The Milwaukee gets mixed reviews, and Klein leads the pack with some. I guess that's why I always keep an eye out for a better folding jab saw. None of them are perfect.
@@lastbesttool Yeh, I get it. I would love to find a folding saw that has a solid feel. I just could never get that Lenox to tighten up. I just discovered your channel am have become an instant fan. ✌🏼
@@lastbesttool Do you know if there is a design reason for the big silver knob to come off every time the blade is changed? Like, to fit a certain type of blade? I used my Lenox today and was reminded of this feature. If there isn't a reason to fully remove it, a captive knob would be more convenient. Thanks for the look.
Greetings Doc! I’m very satisfied with Swanson savage folding saw. Check it out.
Will any of these cut polymer plastic ?