Superman and Lois Gets It Right - Mostly
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The thing that struck me about Hoechlin is how he plays Clark and Superman; other Superman actors decide put more emphasis on Superman or Clark as the real identity, but Hoechlin is able to a character who can be believably both. He does it while also allowing us to see the "in between" persona that shows both Superman and his mild mannered Clark persona are parts of the same person.
Fully agree! It's quite refreshing and makes it all more believable.
Something I noticed 15 minutes into the first episode: the chemistry between Superman and Lois was really good. They felt right as a couple straight away. There is no chemistry between DCEU Superman and Lois. Tyler Hoechlin is probably the best version of Superman since Dean Cain, and the best version of Clark Kent since Tom Welling.
Totally agree with the Clark Kent and Tom Welling part, haven't seen enough of Lois and Clark to judge Cains Superman but I love Tyler Hoechloins Superman
The chemistry is no surprise considering that they had already played the couple in the Arrowverse. Lois calling for Barry Allen to kick Oliver Queen's butt was pretty funny.
I loved this show. Easily the best piece of live action Superman media in my lifetime.
I've said it before and I'm gonna keep saying it; Bitsie Tulloch is the best Lois Lane we've ever had.
I love that one of your favorite moments was mine: The first time introduction. Not only is it because it's about as close of a remake of the classic cover as possible. But also the entire exchange with the kid where he says his mom made his costume. Seriously...that hit ALL the marks I want in a Superman. He comes off as kind, friendly, pretty dorky, and just thrilled to be able to spend just a little moment with the kid after his moment of heroship and derring-do. It reminded me of Christopher Reeve saving the cat. Or that moment in All Star Superman when he takes just a moment to comfort the girl who's about to jump to her death. Superman is not defined by his "Let's fight Steppenwolf and Darkseid Today!" antics. The best thing about Superman is that he can do all of that, but he's still capable of humanity and empathy and SHOWING it (which let's be honest, is something Batman could work on...I'm a big fan of the new Nightwing comics, I recommend #78-83 especially if you haven't read them yet). You want to know what makes everyone who's into comics, Marvel / Image / DC, love Superman? It's that, in every way, he's who we wish we could be.
Yes, he has all of those powers. But, he's also never petty, he has empathy and compassion for everyone, even someone as evil as Darkseid. He's more than willing to find something good in everyone. It's what we all wish we could be when that person causes a little bit of rage by not letting people merge in on the highway, or the person that stands in a doorway and refuses to let people pass. And I'm sorry...just the fact he's willing to let everyone around him know that he's can be just as cheesey and dorky makes this version that much more approachable. I can't wait for season 2...I just don't want to have to put up with Zod this time...how about we bring back Jon Cryer's Lex Luthor? He did a great job during the Arrowverse's Crisis event.
Yeah, that green car scene had a very different significance in the show. In the original comic, people were running in terror from the circus freak carrying a car around. In the show, Superman was bringing the car to a safe landing, and making sure people felt safe and protected.
Anyone else remember that Onion article about how the most unrealistic aspect of the Superman comics now is a financially healthy Daily Planet?
I by and large agree with everything you said. Not having any emotional connection from my formative years to the Christopher Reeve Superman, that lands Tyler Hoechlin squarely in the top of my heap of live action Supermen incarnations. (The Superman of my formative years was the one voiced by Tim Daly in The Superman Animated Series, that's the one I think of when I think "Superman")
That first "save" scene still makes me grin like a dork. What a perfect scene.
And honestly, adding the muscle suit underneath the costume was just...a bad idea. He looked GREAT in the Supergirl suit. No muscle suit, just the costume. They should've kept that. That's part of why his head looks so small sometimes.
the muscle suit didn't bother me, but the painted on abs did a little; not a great suit.
The Superman costume does look really padded-out. I actually thought that it was supposed to be like that in-world because Superman doesn't actually need body-builder muscles, his strength coming from his Kryptonian heritage, and it gives him a different body shape from Clark Kent. May be giving the show too much credit but it works in my head anyway.
SEE, Steve?! Also as far as the muscle suit not looking high-quality... it's not like the Kents are ridiculously wealthy.
With Superman Returns I realized HOW MUCH I wanted to see the Superman as a father story. Eventually we got to see that in the comics with Jonathan Kent and I loved it. Glad we get to see it now on TV, too.
This Superman seems so wholesome that I might even give this show a chance even though I've never liked Superman for being too super.
I didn't watch any of the CW shows...in Lois & Superman as soon as Supes said "Thanks, my Mom made it for me!" I was sold.
Season 1 of Flash was a favorite of mine...and the CW Crisis was pretty awesome. But yes...it all paled with that flashback saving the car and a wonderfully kind and goofy Superman walking over and saying: "Thanks, my mom made it for me!"
Yes to both of your pros and cons. I was gobsmacked by how objectively good this show is. The acting, writing, cinematography, all of it is just...*chef’s kiss*
Great vid! Tyler's my favourite Superman.
"His motives are rooted in fear, self-delusion...you know in other words he's a conservative" haha.. you kill me man...
You're definitely *not* the only one who feels that way about this costume... especially about how it makes TH's head look small from certain angles. I thought that maybe I was imagining things. But hearing you vocalize your opinion makes me feel better about my observations.
I will say that this show makes me wish that Jimmy Olsen would make an appearance. I sadly fell out of the habit of watching Supergirl after the first few seasons. Nothing against the show. I enjoyed it. My schedule simply changed and choices about what entertainment I would have time to consume meant that I had to drop the Arrowverse. I have no idea what happened with Jimmy Olsen, so I do not know whether he would even be available for a guest appearance. I only know that I would be interested in seeing the twins, Lois, and Clark interacting with him.
I especially like that Sam Lane's relationship with Clark is less antagonistic than I have seen in most of my comic reading experience. I like the idea of him having a professional respect for Superman and a love for his family which is strained by duty. This is a more nuanced and interesting portrayal than one where Lane simply hates and distrusts Superman for being an uncontrollable alien. I heartily approve.
Thanks again for your great videos, Steve. You're definitely worth my monthly donation and I wish I could afford to send you more.
I definitely wish Jimmy Olsen was in the show but Supergirl did him dirty by making him become a superhero(for some reason that show felt like everyone needs superpowers?), I can't remember why he leaves but he left Supergirl before the show was over(it gets REALLY bad btw, CW stopped giving a shit). The actor left because he wanted to pursue a movie career(which hes been doing movies for a good minute), so I don't know that he would show up, which is fine because I don't really know why Jimmy Olsen would come to Smallville unless it was to visit Clark.
I hadn't planned to tune into this at all. (My Superman and Lois is from Superman: TAS.) Your description of the opening scene and the teens sold me on it and I hit the pause button. I'll watch the series and come back to this video.
"Hey Steve, keep your politics out of this!" 🤣 Jk, thanks for yet another excellent video!
The way you talked about conservatives here really bothered me. I'm not a conservative, but my dad is and he is literally the best person I've ever known. He didn't vote for Trump because he believed Trump being in office would harm immigrants and he thinks everyone deserves to be here. He spends 20 hours a week at the battered women's shelter as a guide to help women get back on track. He donates 45% of everything he makes to various charities. He convinced his church to start allowing gay marriages because he wanted everyone to be welcome. He adopted my half brother and sister because he never wanted them to feel like they didn't have a father. Like I said, he's literally the best man I've ever known and he's a conservative.
I got the impression (whether correct or not) that the occasional greyness of the Supersuit was something done intentionally to give the impression that it had gotten dirty during use.
True, in the first episode to 3 we see that the suit is pretty clean but a little dirty. But as the show continues it gets more and more dirty and rough with the 'S' symbol of hope being completely roughed up till the end.
This is pretty much how I feel about the show. Totally get the stuff about the suit. To me it looks a little cheap and reminds me of a superman costume you’d get from a costume shop
The head size doesn't bother me but they should make it look like the Fleischer suit quality and remove the padding. He is well built. Doesn't need to look like a jock.
I agree 💯 with all your points and so glad that you like Supergirl too.
There was that episode that teased Kyle's alcoholism and Sarah's negative reaction to seeing Jonathan drinking, which could have been setting up backstory for why she needed therapy. Post-COVID shutdown, the show seems to have dropped that thread.
Interesting trivia fact. The actor that plays Lois is 7 years older than the actor that plays Superman. Notable because it's usually the opposite (e.g. Up in the Air).
The most disappointing parts of the show was Edge toward the end of the season and the constant breaks- especially the LAST TWO EPISODES. Edge would've been cooler if he was a alpha-asshole businessman. Seeing a way to use the Eradicator to sway events his way, then have it turn against him by the minds of other Kryptonians would've been cool. HBOMax padding out the episodes to fifteen instead of thirteen hurt it as well. Overall, I was impressed. The CW/HBOMax partnerships seems to work on this and Stargirl.
I agree with you 100%!! This is the Superman that I've been wanting to see for so freaking long. I think back to Batman v. Superman, and how the movie wanted me to take it seriously SO BADLY, but I just couldn't.
I agree that Edge is not a strength of the series, but I think that having an evil villain / tragic foil for Superman who is his brother works perfectly when so much of the season was dedicated to how crucial the twins' relationship was to their growth & development.
Lois' social consciousness is also partially a product of the time in which the show is made versus the movies. As a society, we are more socially conscious than the 70-80s, and she mirrors that.
I much prefer his new suit over his supergirl suit, but honestly i would rather see a more classic suit. You should check out Gerard Christopher as Superboy, warner canceled it because they wanted to make lois and clark instead, but honestly seasons 3 and 4 of superboy involved Clark already having left college and is now working in the city for The Bureau for Extranormal Matters. Basically a budget DEO. It was just Superman but without permission to use the name. In terms of the stories they told, they were way more ambitious than Lois and Clark ever was, even having DC/Superman comics legend Mike Carlin adapt Alan Moore's For the Man Who Has Everything in one episode. (Nearly half the shows episodes were written by comic writers such as Denny O Neil, JM Dematteis, Andrew Helfer, etc. It was also the first live-action DC show to introduce the concept of a multiverse in an episode where Superboy gets transported to another universe where he was evil, and became communist dictator of the world. Very Red Son, except it came like a decade before. Seriously, give seasons 3 and 4 a go. But you can skip 1 and 2 for the moment. Much like TNG, the first season is almost unwatchable and season 2 while not much better was at least a slight improvement. Season 3 though, that magic season. Took the show from low budget TOS-style cheese to a legitimately fantastic take on the character. Oh and if you are a Bond fan, George Lazenby and Britt Ekland played Jor El and Lara. Don't know how else to sell it to you beyond, Bizarro was in a bunch of episodes and looked as comic accurate as you can get. Same with Michael J Pollard playing Mxyzptlk.
They shoulda gone with my suggestion and called the show "Supes N' Lo", but no one ever listens to me.
Top of my _Cons_ list is the different look of the *Fortress of Solitude* whilst the _Supergirl_ show is still using the old design; if _Superman & Lois_ is on a different Earth, in the new Multiverse, then it's fine, but they keep saying it's *Earth Prime!*
Coming in at a _very_ close second, on my _Cons_ list is the lack of even a mention of _any_ of the other *Earth Prime* superheroes, especially *Supergirl/Kara!*
more people need to watch this show, it's severely underrated!
I have no inside info of any kind whatsoever, but I choose to believe that the reason they chose to title it Superman and Lois is because the last time anyone managed to get the importance of Lois and Superman right it was called Lois and Clark: the New Adventures of Superman.
And if you ignore the last half of the last season, viewers who were around when I was in uni have pretty fond memories of Hatcher and Cain.
My main issue with this and most modern Superman interpretations is the absence of contrast between Clark Kent and Superman characterizations. That contrast is a fundamental part of the Superman original fantasy, and IMO the character gets very boring very soon when that's forgotten. Which is kind of always...
I miss an interpretation in which he is depicted as both the bright Kryptonian demigod and the clumsy reporter with awkward social skills
Does anyone else wonder why There's been no appearance and even mention of Kara? Kara could have been a great help against the Kryptonians... and if your response is "well on her show, she was trapped in the Phantom Zone" ok, fine, then why in Supergirl didn't they try to get Clark's help to bring Kara back? Or is this one of those things your not supposed to think about... Boy did I miss the annual crossover
I really love how the brothers obviously issues with each other and issues with their parent's decisions and other basic teenage stuff, but it never becomes toxic. A lot of the CW shows will spend like 2 to 3 episodes with characters being unwilling to talk to each other or giving each other dirty looks. That never happens in this show. At worst when things get heated it can make one of them a bit petty, but the moment shit is actually going down, all is forgotten.
Truly. That first scene is everything that is great about Superman.
I love every iteration of Superman but yes, this is definitive.
They actually film some of this show and Smallville where I live. Cloverdale, British Columbia. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet but your review definitely has me interested. Great review!
Agree with everything you said except for the costume part. During the Supergirl series, I just could not get over how terrible that costume was. When I saw my first episode of Superman and Lois, I was so relieved that his costume finally looked good. We can agree to disagree... Totally fine with that. I wanted to throw in my two cents. Great video, well articulated points. Thanks!
didnt know that comic book fans could also be based, so refreshing! thats a subscription from me
Edit: i, myself, have been a comic book fan for my whole life, its just scarce that you find one that isn't awful lol
I really like Brandon Routh's costume based on Kingdom Come, and his acting, it's a shame we probably won't get much more than what was shown in the crisis episodes.
Tyler Hoechlin is my favorite superman after this first season (Christopher Reeve is another level, he's the superman), and I really liked the kids, at first I thought they would be boring, and clichés, but in the end, they were very well written and the actors are very good. Another point that caught my attention a lot is Clark's relationship with Lana, they really like each other a lot, but their love evolved into something much more than just a romance, they understand each other (and I still think Lana knows he's superman) and their friendship is something really real, natural.
Morgan Edge was a great idea, a half-brother, with a similar origin, but different, a pity that in the end the script didn't help, I was still rooting for him to change.
I've loved this show so far, I find myself hoping that the writers are setting up a long term cross over of a proper death, reign, and return of Superman that really has room to be successful instead of cramming it basically into a single movie
RIGHT? The only ones to do it justice were the animated cartoons. But if the shows finally hits peak veiewership, and WB and hbo max lets the cw go crazy with the budget. We might have us a party.
... nah. It would have to be at least 2 more seasons in before that's viable.
I agree with you on most of what you said. Only thing I'd add is that the plot stuff being dropped isn't true till the series finale. I mean if I'm working on a story and I spend few weeks on it then a hurricane comes in, I gotta put that away for a few and focus on the matter at hand. Now that Edge is gone and Natalie is back with her dad, we may see some more Jordan and working his powers out.
1. One thing I love wholeheartedly about S&L is how Superman is depicted as a global hero. Sure, he's largely associated with Metropolis but he responds to disasters and saves lives all over the world.
2. I get a kick out of how the show uses Silver Age "Imaginary Story"-style elements as actual status quo: "Superman's Twin Sons! One is Super, the Other is Normal" or "Superman"s Evil (Half) Brother from Krypton".
3. I love the Fleischer shorts, too and seeing Hoechlin in a Fleischer-inspired costume is fantastic but I'm glad its used as a "times past" kind of thing. I wouldn't want it to be the default suit. I very much prefer the insignia to depict the S and the shield's border as one piece as opposed to a red S within a yellow pentagon.
I like how the new suit looks. beside the shield it's a little to small. I do think it can be a little brighter. I think it's the way it's fitted that I have a issue with. it looks to padded and puffy .
I really hope that the flash takes ques from Superman and Lois with the perfect balancing. But I am still a massive flash fan
I’m sorry I’m late to the party, but I literally just binged all 3 seasons this month.
Re: Jordan’s powers, he doesn’t get a power boost until he’s possessed by one of the Kryptonian ghosts. So I assumed that process kickstarted his cells.
Steve, will you be covering the other seasons? I have many thoughts and I’d love to know yours on things like the Manheim arc.
I second everything you said...except the costume stuff; that didn't bother me at all (it was likely the fallout from the Big Lawsuit that finally got resolved after 50 years, but that's another story). This show understands its two title characters in ways the DCEU movies absolutely do not. The result is refreshing and enjoyable, with lots of characters you end up caring about (even if, like with Kyle, you'd really rather not). My "con" side would include this show's version of Steel aka John Henry Irons; as a lower-budget Iron Man knockoff, he just didn't quite work for me. But overall, THIS is the Superman (and Lois) we've been missing all these years. Great review, Steve! Thanks! 🙂
I had just watched your last video on Superman and I was hoping there would be a new one.
the 'drab' coloring of the suit might have been a post production addition ... maybe in filming they discovered that the suit detracted from certain scenery or reacted poorly against the green screen and so were forced to tone down the coloring to compensate?? (i dont actually know anything about how that stuff works in media ... i just remember hearing something about some companies having to tone down certain colors because of the way the camera or blue/breen screen reacted -- so if anyone out there can confirm or correct my speculation please do because i am genuinely curious)
You have a point but someone made 2 amazing fan made trailer that only slightly adjusted the saturation and made the suit pop. It looks fantastic and makes the show look truly cinematic. The problem here is that by taking zynder's look they also take his color grading and proceed to not mix either.
100% agree with you about the costume. I do like the CW costume version over George Reeves and Dean Cain.
This show is fucking fantastic. I absolutely love Tylers portrayal of Superman/Clark Kent and he is my favorite live-action Superman next to Henry Cavill. You can clearly tell that the showrunners got a beefier budget also. So sad that not many people haven't watched this. For me it's a must watch for everyone.
The show makes you wonder why they couldn't have done so much better with DCEU Superman, Tyler Hoechlin is slowly replacing Cavill as people's favourite Superman since Christopher Reeve whose probably not going to come back if they decide to do a proper film.
i have no idea who you are and why i am here, but the algorithm brought me here, cool video though
Just discovered your channel and it is the first opinion video on the show that I actually enjoyed watching! I agree with almost everything you said. I do like the costume design, the cape has a better "bell" movement when Superman walks, etc. However, yes, it could have a bit more color saturation in there... I would also add to the pros list the great cinematography and edition. The camera placements are fluid with the scenes and the editing techniques, inviting the audience into the story. I love to see Superman and Clark Kent as a one whole person, instead of two separate characters, and I believe Hoechlin does this very well. Also, I love the display of respect among the characters, specially in Kent's family. I'm very curious and hopeful for the second season.
You cant kill off Bizzaro!.....
I didn't like the costume either, but for a different reason. It was the fake muscles that I found to be really jarring. You'd think that the studio would spring for a trainer for Tyler so that he could get jacked like Henry Cavill.
This is the most balanced review of the show. Literally everything was hit on the nail. Lets all hope that season 2 is not only good but better. And fixes some of the problems voiced in this review and plot lines unresolved.
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Steve I love your reviews. I especially enjoy your Star Trek actually series. It makes my morning drives to work fun. I do have one minor gripe though. You seem at times dead set on attacking conservatives and as a conservative I would simply like to say we are not all drinking the right wing kool-aid. I can agree with just about 80% of what most left leaning or traditional liberals believe in. Just wanted to let you know buddy we are not all crazy forever trumpets. Thank you for the awesome video enjoy your day
Yeah, he seemed to channel Bill Maher for a moment there. I could have done without the smug condescension and I'm one of those people who think Bernie Sanders isn't left enough.
I watched the first few episodes and enjoyed it but didn't continue but hey, maybe I'll go back and pick it up again.
I’ve never been a big fan of CW DC shows. I loved Smallville until it got stale and repetitive. I had no interest in Superman and Lois until your video. Thanks for the great review!
September 17 it all hits HBO Max. I don’t know how much of the show is on the CW app, or when the physical release is
Where is the rest of the Arrowverse?
*HOLD UP I KNOW THIS IS A VIDEO ABOUT SUPERMAN AND LOIS BUT HOW IN THE WORLD ARE THE KIDS PLAYING **_INJUSTICE_*
Why would a game like that be made in a world where Superman actually exist?
Is the plot the exact same? Is there Mom DEAD in the game?!?
Honestly it is the best live action version of Superman since Donner was directing.
You know I hadn't noticed, But I like the supergirl version of the superman costume much better too :)
I hope Jon Cryer shows up next season.
I really liked it too.
Great show. Hope it doesn't get too "CW'y." The actors are great and deserve a great story to tell.
Overall I really enjoyed the show. Enjoyed Both actors for Superman and Lois. Could have done without the drama with Lana's husband. My two biggest problem are they always show mountains in smallville Kansas when there are no mountains in Kansas and that Morgan Edge or Clark knew about each other when literally being on the same planets. They both have super hearing. They could literally hear each other. I can see Clark not knowing about Edge bc he never revealed himself but Clark openly talked about himself to others (his parents, lois, lois dad, any arrow verse charcter, and his kids) about being superman and being from krypton. Edge is all shocked and surprised when he discovers he has a family.
Lois in the show is written really well. She feels like she has a purpose and goals other than being the wife of superman unlike iris west. When Lois has a lead with potential danger, it feels like she knows what she is doing
And then the middle of Season 2 ruins all that.
I saw some of the shows clips on TikTok and Lois and Clark's Parenting style can be a bit authoritarian and they tend to power trip and resort to power struggle at times in some parts of the 3 seasons.
This show was great, looking forward to season 2!
Hoechlin is probably my second favorite Superman, second only to George Reeves (I say "probably" because I could change my mind every five minutes). The show itself is my favorite of all Superman shows and movies. I think his Superman/ Clark has most of the best qualities of previous versions without the negative aspects. It also gives us something very new instead of a rehash of what we've seen over and over before. When will they fall in love? When will they get married? When will he amnesia kiss her, effectively hitting the restart and losing my interest completely just when things looked like they were going somewhere. [OOPS! Sorry! This is not a review of Superman II]. Instead, when it starts, they are already "married with children". What a great way to say, "This version will get on with it and give us something new". As for Elizabeth Tulloch, best Lois Lane ever. (Sorry, Margot. Love ya).. I think it';s that she has such incredible nuance in this version. I do agree about the Kryptonian part and about the costume. Man, put the Fleischer costume back on. The main costume he wears looks like he tossed in into the basement on the same table with grandpa's old tools. The tools rusted. The costume looks like he put it on while it was still covered with dust after the colors had been fading for years.
The only thing that made me accept this version of Morgan Edge is that it's essentially the closest we'll ever get to a live action adaptation of Super Criminal (from the story that prompted DC to create "Imaginary Stories" but forgo to classify IT as one for a while...).
Hi Steve, I really appreciate your videos, but I'm holding off subscribing for the moment (I already have 300 other channel subs!).
I quite enjoyed S1 of L&S but haven't watched S2 yet.
Regarding your comment about Brandon Routh, I also really like his portrayal, but think one actor should have played Lois (if they were really going for doppelgangers like with Brandon)...
Have you ever seen the British version of the comedy 'Ghosts' series (the original)?
The lead actress Is uncannily similar to Margot Kidder, and like Margot, she has great comic timing.
If there was ever another alternate universe, I think she would be perfect to fill the role.
An excellent review. Incisive. Entertaining. More like this, please.
I think that their is a a reason of Jordans powers getting stronger but I think it is the Human side may be reacting to the XK the first place his powers fully manifest is in the barn by the ship and at the mines where the XK was. I also think John is not as powerless as they think how many freshman are as strong and durable as he is. He was able to stop Jordan's punch by intercepting it which is not a light feat being fast enough to do it. I think John is able to help him with the confidence and drive to do use his natural abilities. I think they both have some powers but John is a constant slow uses going at a dependable uses and Jordan can do burst of of feeling and effect like their personalities
I hate to say it but this show might have benefited from the freak of the week format more so for Jordan to get used to his powers by defeating an adversary with a different skill set...... Morgan Edge could have played as a quasi Luthor an manufactured these powered people in a more of a mad industrialist way looking to gain military contracts rather than another Kryptonian plot..... didn't they do the Kryptonian thing on Supergirl already????? And speaking of Supergirl, how come she or any other established heroes didn't show up when the threat was high..... that is the main problem with these potential world ending threats on these shows in a world populated with well established heroes....... That's my 2 cents.....
I'm glad you like the show! I watched for a while, but eventually it got too CW-ey for me (a bit too kitschy, a bit too contrived, a bit too on the nose). For example, you felt the flipping-of-the-script for the boys was handled well, I thought it was on the nose. Once they started to flip the script, all the rest of the choices were obvious. Not that that's a bad thing per se, I just wasn't engaged in it. And they kept pretending things would go one way, when it was so obvious they wouldn't given their adherence to *always* flip the script. Seemed like they would write situations, just so they could go "Oh look, we didn't do that!" Which I always find boring and off-putting. I did like the bad-to-good transition with Irons and the feud with Lois's father. The episode where Irons started to be good I think was the last I saw. So I can't say more than that. Maybe I'll finish, but low on the list.
This superman is actually superman, the cast is great especially Tyler and bitsie, people behind this show really care about the characters, my only concern is cw, the only show from cw that I personally actually enjoyed from start to finish was arrow, I did like arrow(especially the final season was great, I haven't seen supernatural and the 100 but I've heard good things about them too)but even arrow had so many ups and downs throughout its 8 seasons run, some other cw shows started good but went downhill completely after the first seasons, cw is the problem, superman and lois should leave the cw and it should move to hbo max, it's a good show and deserves more attention
I think I heard it’s fully made by HBO but just airs on The CW. Same with Stargirl
Titans is dark and accidentally goofy. That's why it's a bad show. Doom Patrol is dark and goofy on purpose. That's why it's awesome. Superman and Lois is acceptable.
One con for me was that they blew their Zod card far too early for my liking. And if you don't know what I mean, my point is proven.
I must admit, I've heard nothing but praise and good things about the show, but I'm personally avoiding it due to the allegations of racism and a toxic work environment in the production.
One kid with powers, one without. I wonder if that's a coincidence or if they knowingly copied the winning formula from Fantastic Four.
You are imagining things about the costume making his head look small, I just don't see it at all. One imperfection is that they missed highlighting the similarity of Morgan Edge's plan to 'take over the world' with the European conquest of the Americas (etc.), they could have struck an excellent anti-imperialism message - one that would have dovetailed well with Morgan Edge's capitalism.
my favorite Lois is still Erica from Smallville.. This might me my number 2
StarGirl season 1 was also great...
Really good review. The good defiantly outweighed the bad
Agree with you on both pros and cons. Nice analysis, and by nice I obviously mean one I agree with. ;-)
Steve, you should watch Invincible. It’s not a perfect show, but it’s good.
Honestly that costume bothers me too because it looks like they're trying to make him appear bigger than he really is... which causes a bit of a cognitive dissonance cuz it contradicts how he looks in regular clothes.
Shame about the producers screwing over one of the writers
Hey steve, that custom’s based from the new 52 and all the present ones
Love triangle and Superman, don't give Zack Snyder any ideas.
Pretty much spot. I don't share the same nostalgic bias for Fleischer, Christopher Reeve, or other "classic" renditions of the character (despite being older myself), but otherwise I'm of a similar mind on this particular rendition of the character. It might just be the best live action Superman, certainly better than DCEU's take, and maybe even second only to the DCAU overall.
Likewise I found that the show and in particular its villain got less interesting in the second half. Seriously, my eyes rolled hard when we got the reveal of Morgan Edge as not just an evil Kryptonian, but as Superman's estranged half brother. I'm really sick and tired of evil Kryptonians as the go to villains just so Superman has somebody to punch... not to mention the proliferation of and over reliance on such enemies really undercuts Superman's supposed moniker as the LAST son of Krypton.
As disappointed as I was with Edge by the end of this season, however, I'm still willing to hold out hope for him as a character if he returns in future seasons. The principal theme of this series has been FAMILY... a big old extended family made up of not just Superman, Lois, and their kids but also JHI and his daughter by alternate Lois. Edge's last words were that all he ever wanted was a family, and if the show can ever figure out how he fits into that dynamic with the rest of the cast then maybe just maybe he could become an interesting character.
There seems to be quite a few similarities between military dads Sam Lane and Jacob Kane (Batwoman's father) in various continuities.
Still waiting for it to be shown here in the UK, may have to wait until it is released on dvd
His last name is pronounced Heck-lin
Thank you.