Why Marian was chosen to become the Queen [Nikke Theory] | Goddess of Victory: Nikke

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • In this video I talked about the possible reason why Marian became the Rapture queen.
    Special thanks to Shift Up for creating such an amazing game.
    Game: Goddess of Victory: Nikke
    Link: nikke-en.com
    The Character Models used in the video are downloaded from Nikke DB.
    Link: nikke-db.pages...

Komentáře • 33

  • @toyue4201
    @toyue4201 Před měsícem +36

    Very interesting theory! I think you might be even right. For some reason, Marian's connection with the us the Commander was already extremely strong when she was corrupted and saved us in Chapter 0. Most Nikke at that time didn't have a good connection to their commanders due how Nikkes were seen. Even Counters had distrust in seeing the newbie Commander.

  • @Rougesteelproject
    @Rougesteelproject Před měsícem +48

    In Modernia's bond ep 4, we learn from a skin sample that "Her tissue material is completely fused together" [...] "with Rapture material."
    Mana calls the fused material "close to perfection".
    "By combining the compositions seen in both a Nikke and a Rapture" [...] "it's possible to make up for the shortcomings in each"
    [I think the plot at the end of Stellar blade came from this idea, two enemies meant to be part of the same technology.]
    We know Nikkes were made to combat the raptures, but they were made from _something_ that the Humans already had. The Raptures came down the space elevator, but aren't aliens: a human being built them up there.
    Nihilister's Liberation ep 2 says that the Rapture Queen (who used to be Lilith/Liliweis) is searching for her Nikke body. (Nihilister thinks this can be used to kill the Queen, but doesn't know exactly how.)
    Lilith was the strongest Nikke to the point of not using guns, but that strength wore her out faster that the others in the Goddess Squad. (Similar to Rapi using Red Hood, so maybe she has two cores?)
    Snow White went looking for Lilith's grave at the end of OverZone and found the (edit: head) was missing. If the Queen!Lilith has it, she could get the strength of Lilith with all the upgrades Modernia has.
    [Note: this Lilith!Queen is not the Queen that Lilith and the Goddess Squad fought in RedAsh, so I think Old!Rapture!Queen made Lilith the new queen in the same way Lilith!Queen is doing with Modernia.]
    (Ingrid orders the findings destroyed and forgotten due to the danger to the ark.)
    (Mana also calls the fusion "an amalgamation of skin, muscle and dead skin cells" which implies either Nikkes' "robotic" bodies -or- Raptures' bodies may actually be made of genetically engineered cells or cell-like machines)

    • @iminurcloset8388
      @iminurcloset8388 Před měsícem +3

      is that why marian has the same eyes as lilith?

    • @chriss.249
      @chriss.249 Před 26 dny +1

      Glad someone else brought up stellar blade
      Both imo are very similar to megaman. The X, zero, Zx, and legends imo
      Where Reploids (robots) are created with the same mental faculties as humans. Only thing is they can be corrupted via a sentient virus and go maverick
      Over the course of the games, reploids are given human life spans, and humans are given reploid parts, basically making the 2 1 in the same.
      By the time of legends, humans are kinda GONE. Those remaining on earth are called "carbons" basically perfectly synthesized humans, but... not human.
      The last human, the master, dies off. And there's a program on elysium (a space colony) that can delete the carbon and from their bodies, restore the og humans.
      In Zx, u get biometals, little drone like robots designed after Zeros strongest characters that allow specific ppl to turn into said specific character. That person has to have specific traits that are similar, and the will to control said power.
      I feel like the queen chose marrian because she may have been able to see her mind, and, noticing that marrian had traits the queen considered good, decided to make her queen. Similar to how the biometals choose a certain character, or how Adam chose eve.
      It's funny asl as so much of stellar blade is similar to the X-legends games. I wasn't surprised at 2 boss battles we got. But the elder naytiba did surprise me a lil.

    • @toyue4201
      @toyue4201 Před 22 dny

      @@iminurcloset8388 The devs definitely confirmed that the same eyes of Lilith and Marian were intentional. So yeah, likely.

    • @ndchunter5516
      @ndchunter5516 Před 22 dny

      There were some failed corruption attempts in the red ash event, so I doubt they were built for the purpose of fusing but rather adapted in the 100 years. Now if they used Lillyweiß as reference they probably overspeced on the process. And there were some interesting side remarks in that Event that might come into play soon.

  • @HollowNaruto63
    @HollowNaruto63 Před měsícem +65

    i too would betray humanity for marian

    • @iminurcloset8388
      @iminurcloset8388 Před měsícem +2

      I three.

    • @kronos661
      @kronos661 Před 28 dny

      Get BLAMMED.

    • @vince5456
      @vince5456 Před 27 dny +2

      They are not worth saving anyway.
      Except for somepeople like Anderson.They are homies.

    • @WhosManIsThis
      @WhosManIsThis Před 26 dny +1

      We technically did?
      Kinda
      Being we smuggle her out the ark

    • @vince5456
      @vince5456 Před 26 dny

      If onlu we can coerced with the Raptures to make the Central Government submit, maybe we can reach a resolution with the Raptures with Marian as the Queen.

  • @daltooinewestwood6380
    @daltooinewestwood6380 Před 25 dny +6

    I had completely forgotten that the beginning of the story has Marian say “we’ve been shot down” implying of course that the commander and Marian were being transported by aircraft, which seems like a bit of a writing oversight at this point considering all surface travel seems to be done on foot

  • @omegasol528
    @omegasol528 Před měsícem +35

    She a new queen. It stated the actual queen is still active. I see it as bees. If a new queen is born the old one ether fight the new one or dies by the drones. The original queen is still alive with liliwiess head in space. Marian more like a proto queen.

    • @TakenaShin
      @TakenaShin  Před měsícem +10

      There's no statement that Lilith is still alive as the Queen, people just assumed that it's the case for some reason.
      Nihilister used the term "Predecessor" when referring to Lilith, meaning that she's already been replaced by a successor. Nihilister also never mentioned Modernia's name when she listed down the names of the Heretics that the commander is already aware of, and instead she mentioned "the Queen".

    • @omegasol528
      @omegasol528 Před měsícem +4

      The rapture have Lilith head and are looking for her body. Unless Marian was build with her body. Also thier something with the commander the chatterbox want as the commander has a blackbox and the crystal chamber tried to absorb him. Also at the end of the the crown event. Chatterbox and Indivilia didn’t recognize as a queen until they felt pressured. It mention the space station in redhood event that we’re the queen is. So the rapture want to used Marian as the new queen. Which mostly apart of lilth head.

    • @omegasol528
      @omegasol528 Před měsícem +3

      @@TakenaShin we will have to see in later story. As we just finish the intro arc which was ch 1 to 29 😂

    • @TakenaShin
      @TakenaShin  Před měsícem +7

      @@omegasol528 yes Lilith was the former Queen, that's why Nihilister used the terms "Predecessor" and "previous Incarnation" whenever she's referring to Lilith. If you analyze the wording in Nihilister's bond story, you'll realize that she's actually talking about two queens. First is the current Queen born from maternal instinct and second is Lilith the Queen's Predecessor. And the only "Nikke" rapture Queen we know of aside from Lilith is Modernia.
      We already know that what the Raptures wanted is related to the commander's blood and his ability to boost the performance of nikkes. The black box is the commander himself.
      Indivilia was unaware about Modernia because she was in Material H form when Modernia was born. As for Chatterbox, I'm guessing that the reason why he's not referring to Marian as the Queen, is because Modernia is the Queen he serves not Marian.

    • @TakenaShin
      @TakenaShin  Před měsícem +5

      @@omegasol528 but yeah I agree we'll just need to wait.

  • @Dragonero11700
    @Dragonero11700 Před měsícem +14

    We had the confirmation that in the future we are gonna have Marian s and her squad s back strory so i guess that it is just a matter of time.
    I really hope that in the future we are gonna get an SSR Marian ,i would seriously love to have her.

    • @kazuyakanbara1395
      @kazuyakanbara1395 Před měsícem +1

      ?? Marian is SSR right?

    • @Dragonero11700
      @Dragonero11700 Před měsícem +10

      @@kazuyakanbara1395 Modernia is ,technically Marian is just an SR.

    • @kazuyakanbara1395
      @kazuyakanbara1395 Před měsícem +2

      @@Dragonero11700 oh sorry
      I thought you were talking about Marian after her memory loss
      But yeah I would love that I mean I would love to just get her back

    • @TakenaShin
      @TakenaShin  Před měsícem

      @@Dragonero11700 same.

    • @Dragonero11700
      @Dragonero11700 Před měsícem +8

      @@kazuyakanbara1395 oh don't worry it is fine ,my fault for not saying that it was the OG Marian

  • @GamerZero00012
    @GamerZero00012 Před 14 dny

    we're gonna have the battle of two Rapture Queens
    either way, I don't know how it's gonna end

    • @TakenaShin
      @TakenaShin  Před 12 dny

      yup, I also believe that it's going to happen.

  • @KeijiMaeda86
    @KeijiMaeda86 Před 5 dny

    Marian is Chatterbox's special project. She isn't special prior to that.