Floyd Landis: My strict religious upbringing
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- Floyd Landis talks about growing up in the Mennonite Church, being teased at school for his religious differences, how his religion conflicted with cycling and why he eventually chose to leave the Mennonite Church.
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He's a descent human being with a very interesting upbringing! I like him he's cool, a sincere man!
I gotta say, Graham, you are a fine interviewer. I'm never annoyed by you and for me that's a great skill for an interviewer, especially an American one.
Keep it simple...advice we should all follow. We let complications rule our lives.
I grew up trying to bike race - trying is the key word - about 200 miles north of Lancaster, in a cult that said everyone else was going to hell...so I can relate. Only my parents were not so nice...
Floyd seems like a really good guy.
I can understand why Floyd Landis is such an exemplary person knowing about his upbringing. My father and all relations are (or were) Mennonites. The US would benefit greatly from many of their values and practices. That goes for Quakers and Amish too.
Interesting upbringing. I heard a comedian once say "I was born Catholic, but was raised guilty". Maybe that applies to many religions. As a kid, I felt like anything that I did that provided me joy, was a sin. It did cause a lot of feeling of guilt. I'll never ever forget I once asked a priest to help me comprehend Original Sin - why is a baby, simply born, already a sinner. He went round and round in circles, but couldn't give me an explanation that made sense to me.
Nothing beneficial about pretending to know things that you really don't know.
Very impressive person.i like him
Everytime I hear "Mennonite," I think of Bill Guarnere from Band of Brothers.
"He's probably Mennonite."
"What's a Mennonite?"
😂
Nice to hear him elaborate on this. But I would have asked him if, as Betsy Andreu suspected, his upbringing created a moral base that gave him the strength to be the first name rider to confess, and fully tell the truth.
I'd also would have asked about his faith now. He said during his career at one point that he still believed in God, but I'd like to hear him elaborate, and if he still considers himself a non-practicing Mennonite.
"Faith", "truth" , "believe" come pouring out, you didn't listen to a word he said,. Hypocrites, there is a word for you!
Phil Anderson who cares lol
@@ChromeLuxx chill. Blessed are the merciful asshole.
@@kaylabrown1873 why does he have to chill? because he used the word hypocrite...get real and you are using asshole and you want him to chill? Makes no sense your side of the argument,
I came to my own conclusion years ago. The Holy Scriptures were not written by God. They were written by man, lost, found again, and later translated by man. They were biased either when they were written, or biased when they were translated. Then man started piling their own biased beliefs on top of already biased writings or translations. In other words, they are not the true words of God. They're bullshit interpretations of a few select biased men.
Floyd should try and form a Mennonite bike team🙂
I do feel bad for him. He was raised Mennonite and grew up wholesome. He was definitely peer pressured by Lance and the rest of his team to start doping. It gets me angry that his win was taken from him. The consensus was that he cheated that win because he tested positive for testosterone. What's bullshit is EVERYONE else that was close to win in that race was doping as well. He deserved that win. He just unfortunately got caught.
Floyd has an interesting story to tell.
And Graham couldn't possibly be more awkward.
He’s such a good interviewer though, based on how the person responds to him. They just kinda open up and tell him everything
The Apostle Paul had some words of advice and warning to the Romans and Galatians. Seems those words apply to all of humanity, so that no one has an excuse. Legalism in faith leads to hypocrisy and ruin ... and criticism from the world. Otherwise, an enjoyable interview.
"Otherwise, an enjoyable interview." --um what? the little bit about everyone going to hell...does that not bother you? and btw fuck Paul and all his homies...they ruined JC
@@randallmooreao9950 Don't take my word for it, consult the source. And your response to Paul says all we need to know about your character.
It’s odd people will throw out Jesus because of how other humans interpret Him. I ask why not go to the source The Bible to make a determination.
Turns out his parents were right. Professional sport worships the god of hard cash and chews up believers in it.
Borderlands that's not professional sports. It's human beings.
+Borderlands Just fuck off.
Stalin was an atheist dictator, and he killed millions of people. Mao was an atheist dictator, and he killed millions of people. You don't want to say anything good about the religious people in soup kitchesn who help the homeless.
when he pauses at the end of a sentence and takes a breath it sounds like you opened a vacuum lock on a room the size of an airplane hanger. whale lungs! bet he could still drop most guys without even training.
Goddamit now I cant stop hearing it
Floyd's upbringing did not influence him to open up about doping long before he was tested positive and lost everything. It also didn't tell him to maintain the sense of brotherhood-honor and keep his mouth shut about everyone else's doping. He was going down, and he decided to bring down everyone else with him. Therein surely lies Lance's unwillingness to forgive Floyd. True, without Floyd's revelations, the pervasive doping would have gone on for a while longer, but eventually the truth would have come out and Floyd could have kept the faith with his fellow warriors. I suppose though that the reality also is that Floyd did not feel a sense of brotherhood with Lance...the two were like oil and water and had it not been that way, maybe Lance could have maintained his lies a while longer. Perhaps Floyd's religious upbringing, and Lance's lack of one, was a major factor in making them so unmixable? It's plausible too that Floyd made his revelations purely, or at least largely, out of a sense of serving a thing higher than himself, the integrity of the sport, and that having a sense like that may reflect his religious upbringing.
Floyd is Floyd. Lance is Lance. They both did what they had to do in the war. It would really be best for both to forgive each other now that they are both out of the war, a war that was dirty like all wars are.
Or maybe it's because Asteriskstrong is a psychopath who hates everyone who exposed his fraud.
@@wvu05 Very true, I would bet that we can find more than a few psychologists who would agree that the great deceiver may indeed be psychopathic. Then, as with looking at Floyd's upbringing, we'll also need to look at Lance's.
I am totally with Landis. The psychopath and the bully was Lance. Lance underestimate Landis and that was the beginning of the end for Lance that he was so full of himself.
@@mariapilarme I agree that Lance's behavior was such as you describe, but I see no good reason to applaud Landis. With his upbringing, as I understand-percieve it (Yes, perhaps inaccurately), he should have never gone along with the game from the start. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (if you think quotes from the Bible are worth anything...some of them are.)
I can't even comprehend the thought of someone thinking you would burn in hell for racing a bike.. Money and religion have ruined this world almost to the point of no return, just say'n..
@Tommy 2pieceYa His parents never thought he would burn in hell for riding a bike. They took him to races and supported his racing to a point. Like any normal parents, they would have doubts about him making a living as a professional athlete and honestly the life of a pro athlete is not real consistent with old order Mennonite values. Old order Mennonites hold to honest work, faith and not being overly concerned with worldly matters. I come from a less strict Mennonite background and I still admire many of their values even if I can't accept the underlying faith.
Meanwhile anti religion Hollywood thinks kllling a baby half born is fine and dandy.
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
JK Rai I did. As Dr MLK jr said
“An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.”
He looks like he has a disturbed side to him
W t f are you on
After watching this interview, I have a few thoughts. I find it interesting how Floyd "gained the whole world" (Jesus), by losing his own soul. He was exalted, "gained the world," by being a great competitor but by competing against others, which is the true core of some "religious" people's disdain for professional sports. But Floyd also became the image of the one who lost his soul: he was a competitive...cheater. Therefore, if a person's life shows the depth of the quoted passage of Jesus's words, "gained the whole world and lose your soul," with the added shallowness of such a "gain," or success in life, it is Floyd's life, for he gained fame but this fame is now based on cheating. So, without knowing it, Floyd's cycling life confirms and optimizes the words spoken by Jesus much more than ANY sermon I have ever heard! Go figure?
Way back when he was exposed for doping, I heard of his plight of being striped of the yellow jersey and the very first words that popped into my mind were the very words from the Bible: For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? (Mark 8:36). Floyd, though you claim to not follow the words you were raised on, your life is being used to preach and confirm the words of Jesus but in a very sad way.
Wow. How about you focus on real evil, say like pedophilia & sex trafficking. Quit generalizing Christ's sermons towards people that were caught cheating racing bicycles. What a dipshit you are. God has much bigger fish to fry. He doesn't care about bicycle races.. God help us.
Religious? Oh yeah.
Low life cheater? Definitely!
PERIOD
Life with the Lord is far better than depending on the world to teach you about morality and history. Don't steal, don't murder, don't sleep with married women, thank the Lord, honor your parents..yup we would all be kinder people if we read the Bible.
He called Christianity an obsession when all he thought about was cycling. Got problems at school and home? Just escape them with cycling instead of dealing with them before they become a bigger problem than before.
Great vid though. Very insightful
If Trump has shown us anything about religious people, it is that they are morally as elastic as Silly Putty.
Don't stand for anything but tribal hate.