I couldn't disagree more about the dash comment. The TFT is absolutely fine for the bike. It's not a real retro, and it's not a Triumph. It's an extended MT 09, that is totally modern, with some strange bits (seat) tacked onto it. It is not anything like the Kawa 900RS, a totally different mentality. Get used to it. Great bike!
Tons of data jammed into a screen that's hard to see under sunlight, much less with a layer of dust. I'm sure after 1 year ownership that screen will be scratched to death. 10-15 years ago motorcycles had a nice analogue tachometer which was easy to discern in a split second, right beside a nice large LCD screen with a light background and nice bold information, also easy to see and read in any light. Displays outside of BMW, KTM, Triumph are going backwards in terms of legibility and aesthetics. This is not an improvement. This panel on the '21 MT and '22 XSR is 50% blank space for indicator lights and the rest is hard to read. I bet the electronics engineers at Yamaha don't even ride motorcycles, probably a bunch of vaping millineals obsessed with their smart phones.
He said it before: have to decide where to spend in order to arrive at a desired final cost. Sure they can make them better, but they're going to charge you more for the improved quality. Maybe Yam will buy a custom set company that will allow them to offer better seats with less overhead.
Great review as usual. I like it. PS: after watching a few other reviews, this bike is really an attractive proposition. I wish Yamaha would have added higher quality suspension and charged for it.
I think I am in the minor. I love the black. It looks more mean to me and I just can't get over the wheel colour being different to the fork. And it's soft looking. Anyway it's a great bike.
I don't get why people act like this bike is retro. there is nothing retro about it except a round headlight. I agree with both of your nitpicks. the seat could be more comfortable. and the screen could be bigger and nicer.
A lot better looking than MT-09 SP, and confident it isn't a wheelie monster. On my test ride with MT, I rolled on the throttle moderately out of a corner and immediately came up. Thanks Toad for the great reviews!!!
Absolutely love it and your review is bang on!! 👌🏻👍🏻 But that seat is absolutely hideous let alone what your saying about the comfort of it? 🤮 + surely they could have made a better job of the headlight it should be a round one but not looking like that? 🤮 Great review tho!! 👌🏻👍🏻
The black one looks far nicer, to me, than the blue. The blue just exaggerates the fussy bits on the bike that I really don't like...and that weird seat. What a machine, however. Totally love it. Big time. Like the MT 09 but with more stability. Perfect.
I think they can be fun to use if they’re smooth on the downshift, as well as the up shift. But I wouldn’t pay over the odds as an extra; I like to change with the clutch lever. My mind’s eye is telling me a knackered gearbox will ensue the a jerky downshifter.
I had a 2016 in brushed silver. Overall I think that was more in line with the idea of a modern retro - consistent styling elements and cohesive with the circle elements in the trim, rear light, headlamp and instrument cluster. This update has abandoned that I feel. Shame. The original XSR was a wonderful machine to ride and look at (in my view). The power, tech and handling upgrades applied to the existing styling would have been enough maybe.
Have to say, the original XSR was the MT09 Sport Tracker. That special edition was in my opinion, a market test for the XSR. Just about to trade my 2016 Sport Tracker in against a tech black 2022 MT10, I'm tired of a jet engined Pogo Stick trying to kill me every time I go for a ride, mine has ABS and that's it, it's a pretty raw bike but that was why I bought it. I had a boring Kawasaki 650 twin before that and this felt like a party on two wheels in comparison. The base model suspension though... It's sh1t over 80mph!
I also own the 2016 XSR900 and agree with you. Yamaha made a revolution with thie new model... and they did not need to. However I would buy the new one because it is a beauty.
This seems like a better package than the new Monster....sadly and happily. Lower price, better components (adj suspension), cruise control, more mid range power. Also out does the triumph trident it seems for the price
Oh it's much more bike than the Trident. Spec, power, speed, handling, it's got the Triumph beaten on all accounts. The Duc', that's a trickier proposition.
@TheDfelan I chose the xsr900 over the cati. Paid more than a 22 monster price. Reasons. Just a better bike. Safety, no heating your body issues. Just as fast and Yamaha's are just cheaper and more reliable long haul. Reselling value not so much. People quiver when they see a ducati. It's like the Ferrari of cars. No regrets. Loving it.
i have a deposit down on this bike. hopefully will have it by the end of June. I love the look, but Im a little concerned about the taillight.. while it looks tidy tucked under the seat Im worried its not alot of break light for cars to notice when slowing or stopping in front of them. perhaps an aftermarket flashing break light would help.
@@visordown they pushed it back to august.. I didn’t want to wait so I took my deposit back. I purchased a KTM duke 890 instead, it was available and the dealer was 5 miles from my house.
Not for me. I ride aggressively until the tank is bone dry. If my butt already hurts after an hour then there is something seriously wrong. I‘ll get the MT-09.
14 fuel tank....nope nope nope nope nope NOPE!!!! Yamaha how can you design such an amazing bike, amazing engine and beautiful to look at.......then give it a 14L fuel tank???? You lost a sale.
@@williamrae9954 the XRS doesn't do 200. It does 120 thereabouts. Numerous reviews mentioned this. Greta bike horrible range. Terrible marketing. This could have been the sporty retro looking equivalent of the Z900 RS which is a huge seller. Instead it'll just have niche success.
@@Rosseboi 64mpg average,Glasgow - Bosnia on the old CP3,14litres,on the 200 mile mark(102kms for 4.54litres,310km a tank approx),i can do the sums in my head!
@@williamrae9954 *If* you got that it's because you rode very leisurely but the average rider won't be doing that, not on a 3 pot with so much grin potential. And you have to consider your older gen motor wont be euro 5 so is more fuel efficient as well. And many reviewers have raised concern about it's short range and gotten nowhere near 200. Not even close. Me it's got to be 17/19 litres minimum. But if your ride style and engine generation gives you that milage enjoy!
This is why the Trident is such a huge success. It’s got the OG triple engine, has great torque, better standard components (ie. steel braided brake lines), It’s lots cheaper $, and gets 60 mpg. Yes, it will go 200 miles on one tank if you really want it to. Plus, it’s actually rideable without fear of wheelying any second.
Someone in the media needs to say Yamaha have lost the plot design wise . History will not look back kindly on this era , the MT range is ugly but the XSR's are possibly even worse ! Vast expanses of exposed frame and components with no proportion or flow is not a "design ethos " its just a mess .
lol you clearly know nothing about this bike. its based on the 80s yamaha championship bike ridden by christian sarron. everything is not about your lame politics
Tongue was firmly in cheek...can't expect the IQ of those in the Y/T comment section all to be into double digits...oh,I've met Christian Sarron on the seafront at Bandol,France,he ended up comparing scars with my mate...I probably know more about motorcycles than either of you ever will,ex-racer,and nephew of a multi-podium GP racer!
Ordered mine in black two days ago. Happy to park it in my yard in September. Probably the longest four months of my entire life.
Same here.
I couldn't disagree more about the dash comment. The TFT is absolutely fine for the bike. It's not a real retro, and it's not a Triumph. It's an extended MT 09, that is totally modern, with some strange bits (seat) tacked onto it. It is not anything like the Kawa 900RS, a totally different mentality. Get used to it. Great bike!
Tons of data jammed into a screen that's hard to see under sunlight, much less with a layer of dust. I'm sure after 1 year ownership that screen will be scratched to death.
10-15 years ago motorcycles had a nice analogue tachometer which was easy to discern in a split second, right beside a nice large LCD screen with a light background and nice bold information, also easy to see and read in any light.
Displays outside of BMW, KTM, Triumph are going backwards in terms of legibility and aesthetics. This is not an improvement. This panel on the '21 MT and '22 XSR is 50% blank space for indicator lights and the rest is hard to read. I bet the electronics engineers at Yamaha don't even ride motorcycles, probably a bunch of vaping millineals obsessed with their smart phones.
@@exothermal.sprocket old man yells at sky. It's a dash display fpr the love of mike.
@@anxiousappliance A dash is what they put in a 1974 Cadillac Eldorado.
@@exothermal.sprocket what evs - nice car though - FWD and 7 liters.
@@exothermal.sprocket who needs a tachometer?
The shot 14 seconds in is mind blowing.
Best shot I’ve seen on CZcams or in theaters in years.
Daaaaaanngg
I love the blue but this black is fire
Awesome update. In black, aftermarket seat (what's with manufacturers NOT being able to make decent stock seats?! It's 2022!!!).
He said it before: have to decide where to spend in order to arrive at a desired final cost. Sure they can make them better, but they're going to charge you more for the improved quality. Maybe Yam will buy a custom set company that will allow them to offer better seats with less overhead.
FINALLY A REVIEW THAT COMES IN BLACK
This now adds to the list of my dream bikes
should be in dealers now, but be quick, not many are coming into the country!
Missed opportunity; gold wheels on the black paint
Man, someone was in a mood that day...
Great review as usual. I like it.
PS: after watching a few other reviews, this bike is really an attractive proposition. I wish Yamaha would have added higher quality suspension and charged for it.
Agree and some analogue clocks like R9T or z900rs as that finish’s the bike
Forks are fully adjustable and should be fine, upgrading the shock is easy enough
Putting a nitron with preload adjuster on mine it’ll be great
I do wish they had tried harder on the dash.
True, but at what expense. You'd have to be really into it to do that - on stock its not too bad
I think I am in the minor. I love the black. It looks more mean to me and I just can't get over the wheel colour being different to the fork. And it's soft looking. Anyway it's a great bike.
I don't get why people act like this bike is retro. there is nothing retro about it except a round headlight. I agree with both of your nitpicks. the seat could be more comfortable. and the screen could be bigger and nicer.
A lot better looking than MT-09 SP, and confident it isn't a wheelie monster. On my test ride with MT, I rolled on the throttle moderately out of a corner and immediately came up.
Thanks Toad for the great reviews!!!
thank you for watching!
4:16 great stuff editor!
Thanks toad 🐸 love the bike
Absolutely love it and your review is bang on!! 👌🏻👍🏻 But that seat is absolutely hideous let alone what your saying about the comfort of it? 🤮 + surely they could have made a better job of the headlight it should be a round one but not looking like that? 🤮 Great review tho!! 👌🏻👍🏻
great if not best review yet! curious question, what riding boots are those?
Brilliant review as always
Thanks again! :-)
Excellent vid, thanks.
I reckon the seat feel is relevant to fuel range!.
Great review man, and great bike. Congrats !!
thanks for watching!
The black one looks far nicer, to me, than the blue. The blue just exaggerates the fussy bits on the bike that I really don't like...and that weird seat. What a machine, however. Totally love it. Big time. Like the MT 09 but with more stability. Perfect.
The black with gold wheels does look very trick, like it's waiting for some gold JPS stickers!
Yammie could release accessory packs w/ retro gauges and plastic pilllon covers, shields, etc? Great review btw!
That would be cool! Thanks for watching!
Excellent review and agree with everything you said….apart from the quick shifter. Does it do the job on this bike, especially downshifting?
What’s your view on the quick shifter. I had a test ride and found it a bit clunky on the downshift
I think they can be fun to use if they’re smooth on the downshift, as well as the up shift. But I wouldn’t pay over the odds as an extra; I like to change with the clutch lever. My mind’s eye is telling me a knackered gearbox will ensue the a jerky downshifter.
I could get past the the dash. Yamaha should offer a comfort seat option.
I need that bike to do a review on it to test the difference in the two models
You recommend this over the XSR 900 of the 2019? Is it worth the extra money?
I had a 2016 in brushed silver. Overall I think that was more in line with the idea of a modern retro - consistent styling elements and cohesive with the circle elements in the trim, rear light, headlamp and instrument cluster. This update has abandoned that I feel. Shame. The original XSR was a wonderful machine to ride and look at (in my view). The power, tech and handling upgrades applied to the existing styling would have been enough maybe.
I couldn’t agree more. I think Yamaha missed the mark in terms of styling.
Have to say, the original XSR was the MT09 Sport Tracker. That special edition was in my opinion, a market test for the XSR. Just about to trade my 2016 Sport Tracker in against a tech black 2022 MT10, I'm tired of a jet engined Pogo Stick trying to kill me every time I go for a ride, mine has ABS and that's it, it's a pretty raw bike but that was why I bought it. I had a boring Kawasaki 650 twin before that and this felt like a party on two wheels in comparison. The base model suspension though... It's sh1t over 80mph!
I also own the 2016 XSR900 and agree with you. Yamaha made a revolution with thie new model... and they did not need to. However I would buy the new one because it is a beauty.
Is the 2022 worth the extra money?
Could you compare it to the 2022 MT-10? Which one is less gressive and easier to ride in town? Thanks,
The blue is too blingy and the black is too plain. A little gold on the black one would be perfect! Ordered a 2024 today😊
This seems like a better package than the new Monster....sadly and happily. Lower price, better components (adj suspension), cruise control, more mid range power. Also out does the triumph trident it seems for the price
Oh it's much more bike than the Trident. Spec, power, speed, handling, it's got the Triumph beaten on all accounts. The Duc', that's a trickier proposition.
@@visordown I'd like to see a comparison against the monster. If only to reaffirm my recent XSR900 purchase.
@TheDfelan I chose the xsr900 over the cati. Paid more than a 22 monster price. Reasons. Just a better bike. Safety, no heating your body issues. Just as fast and Yamaha's are just cheaper and more reliable long haul. Reselling value not so much. People quiver when they see a ducati. It's like the Ferrari of cars. No regrets. Loving it.
The tft was the right choice. It's got hints of the past but very much an evolved modern bike.
10,200 pounds damn that's heavy. I would hate to drop it, never get it picked back up.
Very funny! :-)
Want to own one do a review and experience the nostalgia
How tall are you please? I'm 6' with 32" inseam. Looking for sizing. Thanks!
Where did you put the beer when you were riding?
hahahaha,curry it in ur stomach mate
i have a deposit down on this bike. hopefully will have it by the end of June. I love the look, but Im a little concerned about the taillight.. while it looks tidy tucked under the seat Im worried its not alot of break light for cars to notice when slowing or stopping in front of them. perhaps an aftermarket flashing break light would help.
did your bike get delievered? What do you think to it?
@@visordown they pushed it back to august.. I didn’t want to wait so I took my deposit back. I purchased a KTM duke 890 instead, it was available and the dealer was 5 miles from my house.
Like the pipe hanging off the black model you're standing with. Is that a factory extra?
Yep, official Yamaha accessory.
I have a strong feeling that they will make a clip on bars version of it with headlight cowling.
I have a feeling that custom tuners are already working on this very thing!
_wow retro style exhaust canister_
What about the Look?
Drop the beer. It´s stupid and looks that way too. Otherwise you provided one of the best videos on XSR900 from the Tuscany press launch.
Would rather the mighty MT10
Not for me. I ride aggressively until the tank is bone dry. If my butt already hurts after an hour then there is something seriously wrong. I‘ll get the MT-09.
Put less gas in the tank.
@@anxiousappliance Sure. „You are holding it the wrong way“ - is it you, Steve? 😂
14 fuel tank....nope nope nope nope nope NOPE!!!!
Yamaha how can you design such an amazing bike, amazing engine and beautiful to look at.......then give it a 14L fuel tank????
You lost a sale.
Buy a Katana then, it's got 12litres, if 200mile range is too much for you?
@@williamrae9954 the XRS doesn't do 200. It does 120 thereabouts. Numerous reviews mentioned this.
Greta bike horrible range. Terrible marketing. This could have been the sporty retro looking equivalent of the Z900 RS which is a huge seller. Instead it'll just have niche success.
@@Rosseboi 64mpg average,Glasgow - Bosnia on the old CP3,14litres,on the 200 mile mark(102kms for 4.54litres,310km a tank approx),i can do the sums in my head!
@@williamrae9954 *If* you got that it's because you rode very leisurely but the average rider won't be doing that, not on a 3 pot with so much grin potential. And you have to consider your older gen motor wont be euro 5 so is more fuel efficient as well.
And many reviewers have raised concern about it's short range and gotten nowhere near 200. Not even close.
Me it's got to be 17/19 litres minimum. But if your ride style and engine generation gives you that milage enjoy!
This is why the Trident is such a huge success. It’s got the OG triple engine, has great torque, better standard components (ie. steel braided brake lines), It’s lots cheaper $, and gets 60 mpg. Yes, it will go 200 miles on one tank if you really want it to. Plus, it’s actually rideable without fear of wheelying any second.
I rode the 2018 model
Yamaha always real fantastice💥💥💥
It’s nice, but I will stick with my 2022 MT10
SP all day
XSR900 or Monster??
Street triple rs vs this bike…which would you own and why?
Xsr.
More fun , easier fun
This or a Street Triple for the road?
This
Free stuff for great press….right
"Oi shut up" love it
Why no built in tpms, engine temps. Bmw has it al all for 10 yrs
I hate the rinky dinky little headlight on the xsr. I much prefer the sv 650 or z900rs headlight
Love the old true XSR900 but today I would take MT-09 instead, XSR is unfortunately gone...
Just bought one of these, maybe I've got a fat ass but I find the seat okay, but I do sit so I'm just touching the hunp
I like seat...dont care about what people say about
I will stick with my divvy...lol 😂
Shorter wheelbase is better for me, it's more agile.
I didn't miss the shorter wheelbase on this, I prefer the more benign handling of it
As nice as it looks, if the seat is a bitch, then it's a no-no, unless there will be custom seats.
Not going to be an honest review with a banner saying XSR900 behind you sponsored by Yammaha
That longer swing arm might make it less fun than the MT
how so?
@@visordown less wheelie prone, less excited, more mellow
Nice, but that seat is minging ...
No taste...as above, direct design from the TZR250 3-MA, best looking Yamaha ever built, a design classic!
if you want faster better handling buy a sports bike this is not what this bike was about .prefer the older bike.
Amazing bike but an ugly retro... Kawasaki z900rs looks sexier.
I like them both - this is a harder edged machine and just looks good without the overt retro lingo. But Kawa sure did a nice job.
Someone in the media needs to say Yamaha have lost the plot design wise . History will not look back
kindly on this era , the MT range is ugly but the XSR's are possibly even worse !
Vast expanses of exposed frame and components with no proportion or flow is not a "design ethos "
its just a mess .
To each their own brother
lol your opinion is stupid
Wienerwald was not a gay bar. Hahahaha
probably the most boring review of a fantastic bike ever.
hahaha harsh
Yamaha doing 'The Current Thing', Ukraine colours in the advertising behind the bike...surprised it doesn't come in Trans or Pansexual colours?
lol you clearly know nothing about this bike. its based on the 80s yamaha championship bike ridden by christian sarron. everything is not about your lame politics
is your life really that sad.
Tongue was firmly in cheek...can't expect the IQ of those in the Y/T comment section all to be into double digits...oh,I've met Christian Sarron on the seafront at Bandol,France,he ended up comparing scars with my mate...I probably know more about motorcycles than either of you ever will,ex-racer,and nephew of a multi-podium GP racer!
Yamaha…comfort seat please, and sack the seat designer.
Nope...direct design for the TZR250 3-MA... get some taste!(most beautiful Yamaha ever built).
@@williamrae9954 well I hope you keep your job at Yamaha... Dicky.