The difference between rugby league and rugby union players

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  • čas přidán 29. 04. 2023
  • Wendell Sailor did it, Brad Thorn excelled at it - yet Sam Burgess struggled. Now Joseph Sua'ali'i will try. Why do some athletes make the switch between rugby league and rugby union and others don't?
    Michael Cheika believes it's doable - and the long mooted hybrid games could come to fruition.
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Komentáře • 94

  • @nikolaucznaum4312
    @nikolaucznaum4312 Před měsícem +3

    Thankyou Micheal. At last a professional appraisal of the Sam Burges affair, the poor guy was surrounded by incompetence

  • @LeedsAway
    @LeedsAway Před 4 měsíci +5

    One is a northern English working class game, and the other is a southern English middle/upper class game

  • @alliedatheistalliance6776
    @alliedatheistalliance6776 Před 8 měsíci +8

    Rugby league were in the right when they split, and that was proven when union went pro. They should have reunited the codes then, maybe union slowly merging into league (but please, keep the scrums!) If they ever do reunite league and union, Michael Cheika would be the perfect man to do it.

    • @Benjieboy247
      @Benjieboy247 Před 8 měsíci +7

      I can't see it, they're two very different sports now. The union hierarchy were snobby idiots and League absolutely were right morally. I just prefer union gameplay

    • @AHomelessShoe
      @AHomelessShoe Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@Benjieboy247that's pretty much my view as well. Union elites were dicks back in the day, but it's still the more fun code to watch for me.

    • @mervynriley3531
      @mervynriley3531 Před 4 měsíci

      We don.t want the two games uniting. League is a much better game and far more enjoyable to watch.

  • @Lezzyboy87
    @Lezzyboy87 Před 9 měsíci +8

    Burgess was fine in union, england were winning before they subbed him

    • @DarwinNorth
      @DarwinNorth Před 3 měsíci

      And they put him on against Australia when the game was well and truly lost.

  • @davemorse5900
    @davemorse5900 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Union is more entertaining if the TMO doesn't constantly interfere

  • @EzzyKay-eq8di
    @EzzyKay-eq8di Před 3 měsíci +4

    In League the 10meters rule of the defensive line behind the "play the ball" is what makes me choose it over union.
    A pure union player would gas out before the 2nd half from continuous forward running (in attack) and running 10mtrs back and forth (in defense) trust me..

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 Před 2 měsíci

      Yeh nah, opposite actually. You'd know this if you were a forward and played union. 80 minutes of not stopping and if you watch NRL a forward will do one run then return back into the line up. In union you're in the ball constantly . The backs in both games are the same, princesses hanging around like seagulls waiting for a chip

    • @EzzyKay-eq8di
      @EzzyKay-eq8di Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@russe19642 I was talking about the defensive aspect bro. If you were a forward in league, every set you defend you have to go back 10meters from the tackle made and come back up to meet the offense, unlike union. You also have to keep up with the ruck speed to avoid leaving a gap in the defensive line also avoid being offside. League is fast paced bro.

    • @EzzyKay-eq8di
      @EzzyKay-eq8di Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@russe19642 obviously you've never played league.

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 Před 2 měsíci

      @@EzzyKay-eq8di played all four codes moving and living all around Australia growing up. Touch rugby is more aerobic than league and similar to union mate. I played second row for years and you have to be at every contest and don't get a breather after one run like in league.

    • @russe19642
      @russe19642 Před 2 měsíci

      @@EzzyKay-eq8di you're probably the type that believes AFL isn't as hard and AFL players couldn't play league because they're not tough enough 😂😂😂

  • @paulywalnutz5855
    @paulywalnutz5855 Před rokem +12

    sam burgess was played in wrong position and didnt give himself enough time to learn the game

    • @chickentwisties2298
      @chickentwisties2298 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Indeed he should have played number 6 or number 8.

    • @beianimeyah24
      @beianimeyah24 Před 10 měsíci +1

      But it would of taken him at least 5 years to be a proper rugby player with no cracks in his game no one’s gonna waste money for that long.

    • @paulywalnutz5855
      @paulywalnutz5855 Před 10 měsíci

      yeh so he would of had to make the transition earlier, thats what i mean@@beianimeyah24

    • @naytefors1047
      @naytefors1047 Před 8 měsíci

      yes he would need to learn to play in the forwards in union@@beianimeyah24

    • @moptopbaku6022
      @moptopbaku6022 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Sam wasn't given enough time and they had no idea where to play him. Not his fault.

  • @savethebeesplantherbs8809
    @savethebeesplantherbs8809 Před 5 měsíci +1

    They played union v league in England in the 1980s Wigan v bath rugby union they need to merge rugby to rival football on a world stage imagine the crowds at test matches here in the uk or elsewhere the sport has a bright future by working as one together I'm a Leeds rugby league fan

  • @Idkidk55957
    @Idkidk55957 Před 8 měsíci +11

    Rugby league rules with rugby union scrums and line outs would be amazing

    • @rumourhats
      @rumourhats Před 8 měsíci +3

      This is why a hybrid game would never work. What to keep? What to abolish? As a League fan, union scrums and line outs would be so traumatic to watch.

    • @kenjones6441
      @kenjones6441 Před 6 měsíci

      Really?

    • @Bolognabeef
      @Bolognabeef Před 6 měsíci

      What about rucks?

  • @russe19642
    @russe19642 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Union is closer to AFL than league is. Rucks,throw ins,live ball and not allowed to kill it,Rovers are flankers. Only difference is can't pass forward and can't knock on,but in its purest form rugby wouldn't stop like AFL until someone kills the ball, league doesn't even scrum anymore, just hand it over because it's their turn

  • @StrikingAlexa
    @StrikingAlexa Před 8 měsíci +9

    League players are also fitter

    • @jarradmorgan8549
      @jarradmorgan8549 Před 7 měsíci +1

      League players could never handle a proper scrum or a fucking maul they would get way to tired.

    • @anthonymakiha7523
      @anthonymakiha7523 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@jarradmorgan8549 your delulu, bro league players do double the work of a union player in a game....

    • @jarradmorgan8549
      @jarradmorgan8549 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@anthonymakiha7523 then do a effin proper scrum or don’t have one.

    • @jarradmorgan8549
      @jarradmorgan8549 Před 6 měsíci

      @@anthonymakiha7523 afl 4th most attended sport on the planet I rest my case. Rugby league nowhere to be seen haha.

    • @anthonymakiha7523
      @anthonymakiha7523 Před 6 měsíci

      @@jarradmorgan8549 mcdonalds also sell the most burgers in the world, that mean they have the best burgers in the world? I rest my case

  • @ozycobber4973
    @ozycobber4973 Před 3 měsíci

    Respect for Cheika.

  • @zachpowell977
    @zachpowell977 Před 15 dny

    Na mate. Switching at the halfway would be too chaotic. You run 12 v 12 w union style rucks, but no jackal. Then you remove scrums all together or you run union scrums. Each side only gets 5 phases like league.

    • @zachpowell977
      @zachpowell977 Před 15 dny

      No lineouts or no lifting. One or the other

  • @willtekata1763
    @willtekata1763 Před 3 měsíci

    League is offensive defensive and is a spin off from rugby. Rugby needs more stamina.

  • @user-mk3vv8yq4d
    @user-mk3vv8yq4d Před 5 měsíci +4

    Can’t watch union I’ve tried but it’s too slow and boring, league is light years ahead & so entertaining

  • @user-sl3wv9jm9z
    @user-sl3wv9jm9z Před 8 měsíci +12

    Union is more boring with so many penalties

  • @fxt363
    @fxt363 Před 3 měsíci

    League is WWF and Union is MMA. Ball in action more in League so you get more bang for your buck. But Union is global which gives it makes it more interesting. Each country has their own flavour, strengths and weapons.

  • @robmcrob2091
    @robmcrob2091 Před 15 dny

    The only thing that would even prompt a discussion about cooperation between league and union is if they were both dying on their arses.
    Neither of them are. Their appeal may be limited (largely by each other) but both have a player and fan base that can sustain an elite professional game.
    As long as that's the case there's no need for them to cooperate, merge or even talk to each other.
    So they won't.
    Pretty simple really.

  • @jaydencorley3512
    @jaydencorley3512 Před 9 měsíci +16

    Lets be honoust union is true rugby, league is simple rugby.

    • @cornishcamper3338
      @cornishcamper3338 Před 8 měsíci +18

      Another deluded yawniion fan if rolling mauls endless scrums countless penalties, and ball out of play for up to 32 mins in some games, is your idea of a thrilling game then your welcome to it,

    • @kenjones6441
      @kenjones6441 Před 8 měsíci +8

      If it’s that simple why are there so many ex league players coaching at top Union level and no ex union players coaching League.

    • @JK4ManC
      @JK4ManC Před 8 měsíci +3

      Standards in league have always been exceptionally high. Even at the higher end of the amateur game. Union has taken so much from league since it went professional. I personally love the rolling mauls and the tighter more formal scrums in union. The things that go against league for me are the rubbish scrummaging. Union has become a bit of a mess and probably needs to lose a couple of players as the midfield gets too crowde with huge bodies ambling around. Union needs simplifying and league has maybe simplified a bit too much. A good game of either is just about the best sports spectacle you will see.

    • @Eytony3631
      @Eytony3631 Před 8 měsíci

      Should invent a new league/union hybrid with 14 players, get rid of scrum and bring back union lineouts

    • @moptopbaku6022
      @moptopbaku6022 Před 8 měsíci

      @@JK4ManC Yawnion scrums are a joke. When was the last time the ball went in straight?

  • @mattvader2023
    @mattvader2023 Před 7 měsíci

    League is an amateur sport 😂😂

    • @savethebeesplantherbs8809
      @savethebeesplantherbs8809 Před 5 měsíci +1

      It went professional years before union ever did there is a reason for that the players and clubs have vision there not blind folded by tradition or the idea rugby cant better itself

    • @mattvader2023
      @mattvader2023 Před 5 měsíci

      @savethebeesplantherbs8809 field hockey has a bigger following than league 👍 can't compete with union globally so compared to the 2 it's pretty amateur

  • @steelcity4581
    @steelcity4581 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There’s a reason union is more popular world wide

    • @jackthelad5366
      @jackthelad5366 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Yeah cos it was played by the country’s public schools who end up running the country and not working class northerners who could do little to expand it, brain donor 😂

    • @keithratcliffe2235
      @keithratcliffe2235 Před 4 měsíci +1

      In England at Twickenham they are cooperate piss ups .Many watching the game don't know what's going on .Even the refs and commentators! Still the endless resets at scrums gives one time get a drink and the play hasn't moved an inch.Still what a splendid way to go on the razzle.

  • @bobsmith3291
    @bobsmith3291 Před 16 dny

    Ones for the working class the other if for Tory posh muppet

  • @weburnitatbothends
    @weburnitatbothends Před rokem +31

    union is boring AF

    • @tsherwood2112
      @tsherwood2112 Před rokem +22

      The difference is, league is just entertaining. Union is only entertaining if you are smart enough to understand

    • @NoName-hg6cc
      @NoName-hg6cc Před rokem +5

      League makes me yawn

    • @trilli7914
      @trilli7914 Před 11 měsíci +6

      I use to love League I grew up watching it N wouldn't miss a game of Origin or the broncos playing but when my brain developed with age I also developed an acquired taste for a more complex form of rugby. Now I find league super boring and lame and brainless to watch. Rugby Union is this best rugby and should be the only rugby played in the world. Sorry if i offended any League fans but it's true once you understand half the rules of Union you will realise how lame League is and how much better and competitive Union is.

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@trilli7914 Ok first of all you sound dumb so stop acting like you know everything. Second of all Rugby Union and League are fun sports in their own way. There's no who's smart to understand nothing.

    • @SportsFan838
      @SportsFan838 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@trilli7914 Also what you said was an opinion not a fact lol😂

  • @Schemaposse631
    @Schemaposse631 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Union is crap

    • @savethebeesplantherbs8809
      @savethebeesplantherbs8809 Před 5 měsíci +1

      its the foundations of rugby and as a rugby league fan i appreciate what union gave rugby league it allowed it to be created and find its own way foward however the future is merge both codes into a world sport to rival football thats the future