Comparison of trams in Sofia in Bulgaria (2022)
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The second hand trams we get in Sofia are in a relatively good condition when they arrive, but the maintanance here is very bad. Actually the only second hand trams in service are the schindlers (the all green ones) the Tatra T6A5 (nearly all on line 22), a couple of tatra T4D-M (also line 22) and a couple of really old double end Duewag GT8 that run line 23. All the white and yellow Tatras (T6A2B, T6A2SF and T6B5) were brand new. The Pesas, Inekons and the ones made in the tram factory in sofia (not very well made) are also not second hand.
Actually the Duewags on line 23 can go pretty fast without problems, but usually the slow speed of some trams in Sofia is caused not so much by the condition of the tram but by the fact that the schedules are poorly made and the driver has to go slow in order to keep up with them.
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Another strange thing is that they use a chime from the Viennese public transport (4:42) and the old chime from the Austrian Federal Railways (4:49).
I love how old and basic they are. Those platform gates are a fantastic idea. Be great for the London Underground.
I love the tatra
You forgot to review the red Tatar trams. The interesting thing is that you said that Sofia is an old team graveyard. That is too over exaggerated. Only the green trams and the red trams are bout second hand. We don’t have any third hand trams here. That information was a bit wrong and I wasn’t very happy to hear it. Plus the second hand trams do not feel “second hand” at all, because they feel much nicer than our original yellow Tatra trams. The main problem even from communist times is the tracks. They are alway repairing them and most of them are always in meh condition. But the thing is that the bad tracks are mainly placed in the outer parts of Sofia. Plus, you did not show us a video from the Pesa trams. That’s also not good, because in that way (at least I think), people may think that you only want to show the bad sides of the city, plus your video of Bulgaria are only filmed in the outer parts of Sofia.
Even your review of the main train lines. You said that the renovated part of the line from Sofia to Plovdiv was maybes 10 miles, but in fact, it’s actually abut 40 miles. And the whole length of this route is around 90 miles. So almost one halve of it is in a good condition. The main plans are that until 2024/5, the whole track from Burgas to the Serbian border will be completed. From Burgas to Septemvri it is almost completed. They are still working on some villages and small towns between Plovdiv and Stara Zagora. The work there is about to be finished in several months.
The old trams are the coolest ones afaic.
The platform doors at the end are of the "rope type", basically these are made of very tight and strong ropes, and it's usually seen as the cheaper and more practical solution for platform doors if the transport agency can't afford standard screen doors. Yes, there's metro line 3 that has half-height edge doors, but that means that the Sofia Metro put most of its money into that line, while leaving only cheap alternatives for the other two. Which unfortunately shows you how little brand new stuff can Bulgarian transport afford.
And in other cities (like New York), they cannot even afford to keep their stations clean, or to change their trains with new ones. They even do not have “rope type” of protection on their stations. The door mechanism may be on just one of our metro lines, but at least all of our stations are well - maintained and most of them have a really good and pretty design too. Plus, most of our metro trains are also pretty new and the old ones are being renovated. In fact, 7 out of 12 old trains are now like brand new.
@@vladislavvalev8186 of course i didn't intend to criticise trains or stations, they are indeed beautiful. I was just pointing out a little detail about these doors. Sofia in some ways CAN upgrade its transport with decent infrastructure, while other cities may be not so lucky.
@@anfsabc_busotto yep, that's totally true.
maybe another reason the rope type psd's are used is due to the variety of rolling stock used on lines 1,2,4
@@anindrapratama yes, the new siemens trains on line 3 maybe have a special software/feature, which allows them to stop perfectly aligned on those doors.
12:00 this trams were actually made ALL in Bulgaria so this is why it is in that bad condition
But they did sort of do a knockoff of the budapest paintjob
Probably isn't painted. Just left with the paintwork it had when they brought the tram.
@@benolifts Probably true because they all look different
Just noticed the ding in the older tram sounds like the one in vienna
@@benolifts Most of the trams are painted in a blue-yellow color scheme, you should come to review the new third line of the metro and the other 4 lines. Also the newly opened 5 tram line with pesa trams and the rest of 7 and 27 tram lines. This video doesn't show the full picture.
Suggestion: comparison of trams in munich.
I love the West German Duewags
I live in sofia and the things that you said are mostly true, but not really. We have a lot of trams that were bought brand new. They were in somewhat of a bad condition then but now all of the tatra trams were returned to prauge and renewed. And otheres were put back in shape in the depoes. Tracks are mostly changed in the whole city.
I wonder why Sofia does have knackered trams. Maybe they could replace them with old trams from the UK or from another country. Interesting to see how Sofia still likes its own trams. And yes appoligies for deleting my comments but apparently some troll has been harrasing me and I want that person off my life completely.
Money the reason. That's also why we buy Polish trams instead of way better western-made trams. Also, UK trams will not be compatible because they're made for the wrong side of the road.
Most trams in Sofia are not maintained well and cleaned and some as you said are botched repairs like most of the TRAMKAR trams in Sofia, they are trying to phase them out in favor the newer pesa swings which is 1 step ahead.
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4:24 what city is this old Duewag from?
Bonn in Germany
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Hey guys, I'm absolutely knackered.
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Сравнение на трамваите в София в България (2022)
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Did you see any ex-Prague T6A5? Sofia bought quite a lot of them and they are getting partially refurbished in Sofia, like here www.prazsketramvaje.cz/obrazky/smes/tram_odprodeje/odprodej-036.jpg