Worlds Fastest Shingler 9/12 (Part 2)
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This steep roof size was just a bundle shy of 6 square.
#steeproof #Worldsfastestshingler #Roofing
Ok if you're here to tell me I'm unsafe after watching 3 minutes then fast forward to 24:54 .if you still feel I'm not being safe, don't watch. This video is intended for people who will be performing work on this pitch one day not the Internet Safety Crew. Ya'll can join the hater herd or create a second sub follow calling yourselves the ISC telling me on every video people are gonna get hurt because of me. Irdc This video will help somebody complete a task with or without harnesses
Love your content Zach. You've helped me immensely to understand better the mechanics of roofing. Having done many roofs over the years for myself and others, I've realized how many things I've done wrong. But I'm man enough to admit that I'm not a professional. I promise I will never bring up the tie-off stuff again and I'm sorry for bringing it up earlier. Keep the videos coming. I appreciate the hard work and time you put into them.
@@bullmoosepiper7732 Haha its all good man it took somebody great to show me I was a hack too. Thankfully it happened when I was young enough to be molded.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction Could you do (or have you done) a video showing what I do when I have a roof to wall condition, like a gable dying into a vertical wall, where I have lap joint vinyl siding coming down and meeting the roof on both sides of the gable? Do you remove the low piece of siding and the J channel to step flash it properly? I need to do my house this spring and this is a condition I'm not familiar with. I've always done it on new construction where the siding wasn't in place yet. Thanks!
Lol
Fall a rest you got it
I’m 61 been doing roofing since I was 13 during summer holidays.
When we do steep we’re extra old school. We set up siding planks 2’ below the trough to stand on. We lean our power ladder again the planks. Then we use 2X6 s with jacks every 6’ all the way up. That way you lean your bundles on the boards and we always have a board to stand on . So much easier on the body when you do this every day.
I see guys work all day with ropes and just fighting gravity all day. What a pain.
Your a hard worker man. Nice to see guys working for a living. At the end of the day you can look back and say look what I did yo.
I've seen plenty of people doing it old school.
Be Safe!!!
I wanna work for you, get paid to record and watch you struggle.
Where do I sign up.?
Alvarez lmao
Just
Dude!…… the Little Giant hack is life changing. I was today years old when I learned that. Thank you.
if you think thats cool, check out my most recent videos on the pitch hopper. absolute game changer
Having grown up in roofing and done the work for many years. There is no way you can honestly say an 8/12 is not sketchy. Tools start sliding on a 6/12. Steep roofs as sketchy as heck I don't care who you are how well you get around on them. Physics and gravity don't change.
that does look more like an 8/12 pitch cause im currently working on a 10/12 pitch and i can't even kneel on the roof with knee pads without sliding down.
How did they do it back in the old days like 50 or 100 or 150 years ago?
Good ideas that I hadn’t thought of before. Too bad I can’t hire you to put a new roof on my farm house. Love your videos.
How would you feel if the roofers refused to wear a safety harness and one of them were injured on your property.?
Or would it be ok because you were impressed how fast they can nail on shingles with a nail gun.?
basically how we do it here in ny plus we throw a couple ropes for running up and down to prevent sliding that would start to wear the shingles
I watch all of ur vids and I roof also. Our company bought all of us cougar paw boots to wear on steep roof pitches. I always used couch cushions before that but those boots are awesome. Kinda expensive but you make up for it in productivity
May I suggest on a steep pitched roof just attach 3 safety rules to the peek and let them lay across the roof just too have them there in case of a slip. When you finish one side you can easily use then on the opposite side. It looks good and your insurance company will appreciate it. It only takes a minute to set up and gives you a security feeling your guys might need. I won't mention safety again. YOU DO GREAT WORK AND ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS‼️👍👍. Vinny 🇺🇸
these videos are fun to watch but i'm so glad i didn't go into roofing
You can cut up junk ladders to different lengths as well for multiple chicken ladders
They sell hook ladder add ons as well that just go over the ridge they’re very helpful.
Everyone is an expert on CZcams. Keep doing what works for you. Greetings from Portage IN
portage!? I have a flip house in lake station lol
Holy crap. A roofer that doesn't load his shingles down all haphazardly with nails! Congrats!
That Foam Pad is spot on. I'll use that going forward.
Check out one of my recent videos using the pitch hopper. That's the game changed. I threw away most of my cushions
A pouch is always necessary in my opinion!It makes you faster and more efficient?On steep roofs I was taught to use 2x4 nailed thru the shingles.Well under a cut out of a shingle and caulked when done.Or you can caulk little metal pieces in the spots.Depending on the roof that way you can stock the roof with shingles as you need them and can also step on the shingles to get higher so not to use so many 2x4.One more thing do you not chaulk lines?Also I use a shingle holder that can be stood on as well.I like the cushions but if your not good with them you can get hurt.
Hey good tips, what is the board you have on the edge? how is that supported or installed?
your vids are very good. thank you.
I appreciate that
On a cold weather install is it necessary to put gaps in between the shingle joints to account for expansion when it warms or do you still put them tight? And what temperature is too low to roof? Thanks!
they say below 43 degrees usually but when the sun is out its still ok around 30. don't say I said that though, just an uspoken rule around here. I've shingled in 8 degree weather lol and I install as normal. shingles don't need room for expansion and contraction. never been told that from anyone I've ever talked to and i've never seen that on anything I've read
Have you seen or tried the pitch hopper?
I believe a rope would be faster than walking around with foam and toe boards. There’s also a million ways to skin a cat enough said
I've found that in some situations a rope is more of a trip hazard than a help. But in all honesty its personal preference and opinion.
Mason Wing you are absolutely right. Theresa million ways to skin a cat. I guess it depends on the circumstance being weather and time.
The cushions also help on the lower pitched roof on hot days to help keep the heat off your legs
I wonder who was the first person to think “hey I’m gonna take this memory foam pillow up on the roof and stand on it”
@@MoneyManHolmes probably goes back to the first days of couches and beds. I bet people used to stuff straw in their pants to keep the heat off their knees haha.
Never thought of the foam. That would have saved my ankles on a roof I had to paint on similar to that. Harnesses got in my way more than it helped me.
Foamy is your homie... I'll go places your not supposed to with a few foamys to hop around on.
Good. Work.
Great steady pattern
How is the bottom step board attached to the roof ?
Did you ever consider investing in pump staging, set up your 4x4 aluminum posts & staging, they easily move around and makes the job easier & much safer. Just a thought. I was a custom home Builder for years in the Boston area. I enjoy watching someone who is very good at their craft, you are that guy. Keep up the good work, STAY SAFE, ONLY TAKES ONE FALL AND YOUR CAREER IS OVER‼️👍👍⚒. Vinny 🇺🇸
you are the best Good. Work.
I’m a trim carpenter but love learning about all trades. At what point would you think of putting the harness on, like a 10/12 or a sketchy valley or something?
Yupp
I'm a carpenter too, but these videos make me want to do roofing, just no steep ones, they look very awkward
Are those 8 or 10inch steps when you're staggering your shingles?
How did you build the 2x6 support on the eves you’re walking on.
See part 1
I’m no expert. I’ve only roofed one house, my own (with the help of a friend who knew a thing or two). So my question is this: why no use a harness or rope? I would think it would allow you to move around faster and save time because you can kind of bounce around the roof fast since you don’t have to worry as much about each step. For the roof I did I just tied a strong rope to a big tree on the other side of the house then over to top and down to my waist. I was able to work much faster and more confidently. Does using a rope or harness slow you down? Please explain. Thanks.
For some it gets in the way and slows us down. OSHA doesn’t like it but some consider it more dangerous because it’s also a tripping hazard and it’s hard enough to manage the hose along with a rope. For anything steeper than this a hook ladder can be used or we use jacks and boards (primarily for slate roofs as they have extremely steep pitches) but for this style of roof, with practice, you learn to watch your step and be careful and aware of where your stepping. Also wear grippy tennis shoes and not climb in the rain. Many many roofers do it cause it’s simpler. It’s all preference or if your union etc.
@@calebwhite6173 how about using a crane that holds you? too expensive?
@@nofurtherwest3474 You’d need a place to set it up. It’s not too expensive but there are some homes that are tight together with no room for a crane. It sounds nice but you’d have to expense it to the homeowner and they usually go for cheapest bid. It’s about speed and getting it done quick for shingle homes. That’s why a crew sometimes has 5-10 people so they can get maybe 3 homes done in a day. Usually two is the target.
Ummm not tryna tell. U how to do ur job bc there’s a reason u put shingles on and I don’t but I always hear when cutting shingles to turn them over or does it rlly matter
That's a super tip I have three foot six foot and 9 foot extensions from a garbage piece of ladder that I cut up just for that purpose.
I just wanna say you were raggin on a guy who got a lot done for detail work and a newbie ish cat on a 9/12 pitch for not being as fast as you. When you had the easy side. Now when you are experienced beyond 5ish years details shouldn’t take much time anymore from that point. But still. Gravy sides are always faster than detail sides. Also we use 6-7 nails in Utah pending city codes. Makes the shingles feel safe to walk on those steeper pitches such as 8/12 and 10/12. I love your videos though and all your tips or spot on!!! It’s always about being consistent and always consider the quality and actions required for your consistency to maintain a good reputation. Beautiful work.
Why don’t you show the detail work, is ever house you do gravy runs, we have employees to do the money runs, show us dead valleys and dormers and the real roofing work. We have kids to do that [] stuff for us
Watch his other vids. He does this
Everybody wanted to see the steep ones lol I give you that and now I'm on gravy? There's a 2 hour long video of me doing the back of a house with pipes all over and I do a valley in it too. Check that one out
^ hes right you know
So now you feel a big guy right
I would have just used Jacks and planks tell whole way up if it was to steep to be comfortable but ya got er done anyways
Crazy roof! You better hurry up boy.... it's about to pour some rain.
I missed Part 1 but I'll catch up! .
Utilize that ladder more - I'm getting worried about you.
brilliant man! i had the ladder, but didnt know i can use it like this...pitchhopper are sop expensive ...and to buy it just for one or 2 leaks around the pipes????
What city are you from ... I wanna learn this
Ok but how straight are your lines player?
I've learned more from you in these videos then I have from my dad ever 🤣
Lmao ik the feeling my man
Ripped out couch cushions are every roofers' best friends.
but how did you get the underlay on? especially that first row of ice/water. Work off ladders?
From toe boards
so just to clarify. Toes boards up 3ft, lay ice/water, move toes boards down? start shingling?
@@tchornomud yes exactly! Leave enough Room for the ice. Then lower it down to where you can barely get 3 shingles on (that way you can reach the bottom easier) sometimes it's a little rough bending over to get the starter on if you try to put that board on i.p.o higher close to the line on the ice
You’re my favorite roofer to watch! The content is always real and your guys love you because you are the hardest worker in the job. Keep putting out the great content bro!
Thanks I appreciate that a lot
Idk....that roofer girl is pretty alright to watch too!
You do excellent work.
Thank you very much!
Where did you get those rubbers that you have on your boots?
They came on the boots. Wolverine boots
My last day of doing steep roofs was when we were doing a cedar shake at 9/12 pitch 3 stories up. I slid all the way to the edge and stopped my slide with my hammer by slamming it into the cedar. After that,,,,, No more. Was winter time too.
thats what saftey gear is for ..... glad your alright tho
Do y’all use vents like 750s and goosenecks up there?
Huh. Regular turtle vents and broan vents
@@NWIVeteranConstruction lol roofing really is different down here in FL
@@NWIVeteranConstruction we bull all drip edge, and all penetrations/walls
Made it look easy
Why don’t the have safety ropes on this pitch? Just feel like it would be a good practice. Regardless if they need them or not, all it takes is one slip or accident. Not that I’m on the Hurd, I enjoy watching your videos. I enjoy your content. Just asking at what pitch would you use ropes???
Nice zak!
Killing it!
Haha boycub getting chicken boned in the corner. Doesnt even know who freeza is 😅
You can roof .
Great skills .
At around 12:00 why do you cut those full shingles into smaller pieces and nail them above? Why not just use full ones?
It’s to follow a method, the no waste method, you start a roof and go 6 inches up to 36 I think back into whatever way you’re shingling, and re use those pieces from biggest to smallest and repeat it.
AWESOME JOB! I WOULD ROLL RIGHT OFF THAT
Love these videos man but one thing to make you faster and stop fighting that hoses run it from the bottom but two nails in it at the edge so it don’t fall down and you will never have to deal with it imagine that then minus a hour or so not fighting a hose. And thanks for your service for our country and also you do great work and inspire so live the best life bud
Great job as always and quick tip I know you don’t like pouches but they make small knife pouches that make quick and easy to grab your knife if that’s all you need I use them every day doing flooring because I don’t like big heavy pouches either. Just a thought
Same thing with the hammer. My guys use stuff like that sometimes Thanks
Like the foam trick
So here is the problem as I see it. If you get hurt, what happens to the business? Falling off a roof is never good, and what happens if you fall wrong? Better to just put a rope on and slip on a jumar ascender so you can be belayed and work the roof including hard pitches easily and safely. I know you are trying to get this done fast, but still, with the ascender you could still make sort work of all this, and get it done in a safer manner. As a business owner myself, I need to think of those things about what happens if I get screwed up, then what happens to the company. Something to think about anyway. You are fast, just be nice if you were safe. I am losing too many veteran brothers and sisters to have one go simply because of a mistake.
One Florida wind and call that underlayment paper goodbye!
Maybe.. depends if I dry in solo paper isn't always flat doesn't mean the top and bottom of paper doesn't have a good amount of staples
I’m a framer by trade and carpentry is my all time passion but damn dude I’d be lying if I said I didn’t love the hell outta some roofin too. Fun as shit
It's awesome. You're a freak just like rest of us. I love carpentry too. Maybe more than roofing
Those gorilla ladders are amazing i have 2 of them
Nice holiday hair cut boss! How’s the girlfriend treating you? Booooom! Great footage once again. Happy new year!
hahah everything is good thanks for asking! and I appreciate the compliments my man
I have to say, you are fast as hell. Wish you were in my area, I would get you to do my roof. Do you recommend the lifetime roofs made out of steel or aluminum, and do you prefer the asphalt roofs over others? Thank you so much for the education. It really helps homeowners who may want to do it themselves, or ensure someone who is working on their property works as hard as you do. Thank you again.
No problem. Honestly I don't know much about that other stuff. Sorry about that
Metal roofs installed by a reputable contractor will hold up for 50 +yrs
I would recommend a hidden fastener roof,shingles are good for 15-20 yrs depending on weather and are also the lower end and cheaper way to install.
If you install an exposed fastener metal roof,you will find yourself having to replace the screws in 15-20 years.
@@eastside0434 Thank you so much.
Try to step on those shingles like that on that pitch in the summer. You'll wreck em.
I prefer using a 4' and a 8' ladder on steep roofs. I find it quicker and easier also you can put half the bundle on top of the ladder to hold them. Also I don't wear work boots. I prefer wearing sneakers. I find I get better traction for when I need it the most
Etnies natural gum were the best my ankles can’t handle that steep mess anymore
Air forces and a pitch hopper and I'll do nearly any pitched roof
How do I do a steep roof? Hire this guy! 😁
9/12 normal where I am. Almost walkable but need a bottom kicker for slides. And I use foam matting too. Not only for traction but to protect shingles. Done that forever
Anything above 7/12 is not considered safely walkable. Can you walk on an 8 or 9, sure, but not safely and without undue risk of a quick trip to the ground.
@@percyfaith11 some people have better balance bruh 🤌
@@negativetroller9728 not about balance, it's about traction, bruh.
It was entertaining watching this video and at the rate at how fast you work. When I used to work on big construction jobs (not roofing) I remember hauling up large buckets and hods of cement. 40 years into construction, I don't feel as comfortable going up on roofs. Maybe as you get older, your balance and flexibility changes. The interesting thing is I feel much safer teaching and training in martial arts that climbing up on roofs but then again when it comes to hights I never was the Daredevil type. Thanks for sharing.
that roof is whoooopin asss and takin names lmao
Put a 1x6 in where that ladder is. No eavestrough damage or marks. Unless your swapping them out.
Or just use stand-offs.
Hey man curious as you always talk about subbing your gutters what do you pay a ft in your area curious as I have a seamless gutter company
My guys charge me like 4.50 a ft installed I think but that's the contractor pricing and that's before he includes his accessories. I usually anticipate a bill of roughly 6 or 7$ a ft when it's all said and done.
did anyone else watch the natural 1.5 X speed and set the vid to 2 X speed just for the kicks of it
I wondered the same thing!!
I just found some crazy videos of guys walking 12 /12 new cons with no board jacks. That's right walking it. And buddy was putting 3 bundles on in about 6-7 mins. No joke.
Sounds good! Lol send link on here plz
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@@thehamstaa5148 Thank you for mention my channel. I decided to change the name of my channel. No more “un youtuber mas” now this is my name.
I like to watch Zack’s channel, for me he is one of the best roofing channels here in youtube.
I m trying to install my 23k sqft roof, I m totally a noob but I noticed one thing at 2:03, your nails are not on the nail band, they are so close to the edge. I think it will cause eventually a leak when nails get loose
23k Sq/ft????? Do you live in a strip mall lol
Slow as hail son
U should invest in a pair of cougar paw shoes you can walk a 12 pitch easy
I was just bout 2 say that, I'll use them cushions 4 my bundles
arent they made for steel roofing. big difference walking on loose asphalt
They make em 4 metal roofs too, last place I saw em was at ABC Supply.
Used 2 have a cleat as well, 4 woodshake. They discontinued making em, replacing em w a different style I've yet 2 see
Seems to me that walking on a roof at that pitch would be really terrible for the shingles and their granules. Not much else you an do though.
If you watch your feet and don't pivot your ok. Unless it's super hot.
THANKS
Speaking of unsafe I think the way you are focused and paying attention to your footing is fine, unsafe is coming to work hungover or still drunk not mentioning other drugs. Almost every accident i have seen was early in the day not paying attention hurrying through trying to get back to their medicine. I am a carpenter who has done a roof or two so I've seen more accidents driving than at work OSHA Doesn't care about you they are trying to save your insurer's ass and collect a check like everyone is. I did roofing before nail guns that's why im watching your videos so i get an idea of what can be done with proper equipment THANK YOU! I do find your videos educational and a time lock on how we did roofing.
Can I come work for you
I have always heard from my grandfather, and father. You must pill the strip on the back of the shingle.
I notice you dont pill the strip. I am curious to why they tell me this
My parents lied to me too about a lot of things in life. Been a real hard pill to swallow. But I'm pretty sure that used to be a thing. Not anymore though
Worlds Fastest Shingler I know everyone wants to see the sexy work. Can you explain the boring stuff for us that aren’t roofers. Why the strip is no longer needed to come off? What to look out for in a douche roofer/contractor. The difference in each shingle and shingle style.
Those strips are just so the shingles don't stick together in the bundle with the sealing tar on the shingle
What the guy above said. When the shingle is properly installed, the tape strip is not in contact with the tar line. Some local dumbass told me that same thing, and he also said the starter is supposed to be installed upside down. There is a lot of misinformation out there.
In Florida it's six nails per shingle. It didn't occur to me until I saw this video that in other states you can get away with fewer.
I might be a little anxious, but I don't think I'd be on that roof without a safety harness. In the sun and the heat, it's a huge drag and a pain to deal with, but one slip is all it takes.
typically the states on the coast of america have to use 6 nails per shingle. in washington state where i am it’s 6 nails on the coast but when we do some houses further inland we can use 4 per shingle. same for california too
Lol. I feel I'm safer and faster. But safer is more important. Also, check out those pitch hoppers. Game changer Zach. You'll like them better than cushions. Same idea, but huge time and money saver, and very safe.
lmfao! check out my most recent video!!! you'll think its funny
Saw u tryna cover that shinner
No, made it looked hard, he was scare you can tell by the way he moves. Really stiff.
I wonder if he has a young wife and family. If he has good health insurance and life insurance.
Roofers have one of the highest state disability claims. That means disability.
which state you live ?
Indiana.
Maybe he didn't have no 1x6 it's for a wider and safer foot plattform or 1 inch thick 6 inches wide or whatever works for him he's doing good
None of that is sketchy to me, done it many times. Comfort on a roof is a must for real roofer. I have always been told I do some insane shit. Got to get the job done.
Ever tried the cougar paws ? shoes with sponge on the bottom
No I was going to a lil bit ago but I heard they wear out quick af. Wasn't worth the money to me I'm sure they work though and I do know a guy that buys them every year
Well i use them and i mostly only use them when im nailing and they lasted me a while but the sponge i do change out every 1-2 weeks
@@NWIVeteranConstruction definitely worth the investment for the steeper pitches. No setting up just run it.
@@fivying how much is the replacements?
@@thomasbryant5138 right on I'll get a pair and do a review on them
Wow love ya but wholly fricking ads bro. I would watch this video if it weren’t all commercials.
i would rather have the video play at normal speed and chose if i want it to play faster, there's something cool about seeing it real time, its just my opinion, you don't have to play it at normal speed :)
i also understand the video might be too long
This was the first video I had edited by somebody else and didn't mind it. I figured it was better than posting an hr long video...but you're probably right
This is a old video but I'll tell you the safest way to do steep roofs. Go and buy some roof jacks, brackets or whatever you call them set them up with 2x6s. Shingle up five or six feet and set up another row. Repeat all the way up the roof. It doesn't take that much extra time.
See my most recent pitch hopper video, that's the fastest and safest in my opinion
Boards are always safer than anything. If you slide you only slide a six feet and catch a board. It saves you from squenching your asshole all day too.
You don't gotta explain it to me man. There was a time when men were men. I'm slappin tiles myself this week. No rope. I have no idea how youtube knew that! Rock on.
Just bridge after every complete section, instead of trying to do some Superman shit he's technical skills are great though
Do you have any cool roofing techniques that you invented that you can show everyone ?
That ladder thing is not new.
So you do not think it's faster to precut books ? Why do you want to concern yourself with trying not to cut the shingle below ? You can eliminate that concern
You should always cut your steps before too insure you do nut cut through the shingle below
At the 39min mark in my opinion you'd be much safer and even save time by putting in that last roofing bracket. And with this type of work ethics on safety it is obvious you do not work for General Contractors unless on your side of the world safety doesn't exist. What does your insurance say about this or do you only have liability?
I didn't have a board. It was like 9 ft man I wasn't that worried about it and would've done it off the ladder if I felt nervous
He's good at not giving a fuck.
Man take your runs all the way to ridge wasting time doing that makes no sense
Hahaha not true at all. Even when I'm on a Walker its faster to do full bundle runs and come back for the tops later
True. I find you get more coverage by taking your runs to the end of the roof in the area you can reach rather than running up and down the roof all the time. By the way the foam you use for grip is a new one for me. Have to try that this summer.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction Perfect video idea. Take the time to compare the difference in time. I'm sure many of us are very interested.
@@Brando2501 yes I agree. It also gives you something easier to focus on. For example you could count starter and see "ok I got 9 starter, I'm doing a one bundle run that's 3 sq. If I'm doing a sq in 8 minutes I should be at the end of this in 24 minutes and its smooth sailing from there" ALSO most importantly you're not dragging bundles up and down the whole run. Its so much easier to go back to the beginning and drag a half bundle half the distance you would've been dragging full bundles. Or leaving them for the sun to beat on them
@@NWIVeteranConstruction always good to see people enjoying the trade man.
Why is every one of your shingle joints next to each other instead of staggered more like it says to on the packaging?