THE SCAM OF ANTI-AGING
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Wellness in Whiteness by Amina Mire
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0:00 - intro
5:01 - the definition of beauty
16:57 - botox nation
27:37 - the pressure to stay young - Jak na to + styl
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Off-topic, but you are SO cute in your nightgown & scarf-over-curlers. Love the vintage sleep aesthetic. (Also OBSESSED with the killer headboard, speaking of vintage.)
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please add a flash warning for 5:25 through to 5:52!!!! thank ylj
Hi mina, that study in the netherlands sounds very interesting. If you'd like, I could translate some stuff for you
my mom is 57 and has no wrinkles in her face. people often comment about it with her and ask if she's had any plastic surgery and etc. the reality is that she's had depression her whole life and rarely ever smiled or showed any emotion. whenever people comment on how awesome it is, she says it's not, it's tragic. wrinkles are your body's way of showing the world that you feel things intensely, and in the end that's what matters in life, isn't it?
this is insane
Literally crazy how people just care about aesthetics and not anything else, also so sorry for ur mother. I hope you and her are feeling and doing well.
Sorry about your momâs experience đąI will say that most people like myself have tight taut skin due to your genes natural muscle mass, collagen, and elasticity! I have no expression signs on my face and my whole body is tight almost too tight everywhere not just my face. Iâm not mad at it lol, but it does look like Iâve had botox too!
I can't believe I have never thought of it that way. I've always admired my mom for keeping a youthful look, and other people admire her for it as well. She's had depression her whole life, I'm 17 and it never crossed my mind that she looks so young because she didn't smile often for most of my childhood, oh god. Thanks for sharing :(
@@orbitkuu Thatâs not always true lol it could be resting B face and great genes as well. How is mommy now, hopefully healthy and happyđđŒđ„°â€ïž
Once a 99-year old woman told me that âYou wouldn't even be able to imagine what this body has been able to do and endure for the past 99 years. The thing I could least care is my looks. But I do love a good red lipstick!â
She sounds like my hero đ
we all need to be like her tbh
absolute queen
That sounds like a woman who truly lived!
And yes, once you find your perfect shade of red, it is such a joy!
That's beautiful
Ageism is something that needs to be talked about more seriously. Why is the society treating our elderly so poorly when at the end of the day, we all end up old?
If we're lucky!
@@riaczerniakexactly what I thought! Growing old is a privilege. There are many young people who unfortunately donât have that option due to accident, illness, or other unfortunate means. Life is a gift and we must appreciate the time we are given because we donât know whatâs next or if anything at all happens after. Even some of my elders have told me, life is short no matter how old you get. There is always something to learn and grow from (wisdom) which can only happen through time and experience (different life stages).
I feel like in the western world youâre only useful when you have money to spend and energy to work. Once youâre retired and have no money/energy, you no longer get respect.
@@BettyBBomB for sure. My mom died of cancer at 54 with very few grey hairs or wrinkles. I am planning to celebrate them with gratitude for my own good health đ
Self-loathing :(
My friend is dying of cancer at 37. Whatever marketing tells you, itâs a privilege to get older.
â@@user-vx3wc8yc9v Literally what is wrong with you? Why would you say this to someone who's friend is dying.. So disgusting
I'm so Sorry... One of my dearest friends passed away at 40 because of cancer, I feel your pain. A big hug
@@Milena_1988 She passed away on March 5th. She was suffering a lot and decided to leave on her own term with the help of a doctor. It was a sad but a peaceful departure. I miss her a lot.
My condolences đ I hope she's in a restful place
@@tripalongbrasil Thanks
its funny because when you are young you are pushed to look older and more sophisticated and when you are old you are told you need to look vibrant and youthful. so basically the narrative is always changing to make you feel inadequate..
Oh my god, so true.
Yeah you're basically supposed to look 25 from puberty until death đ
@@tillie_brnor if youâre leonardo dicaprio under 25 because heâs dumped every girlfriend before they hit 25 đ€ź
Consumerism 101
Basically, women can't win ever
As a woman I realised my fear of looking old wasn't out of Vanity but out of the knowledge of how society treats older women. I didn't want to suddenly become invisible, to be regarded as a outcast.
I also realised that for many women putting great amount of effort into thier appearances out of survival , they don't want to be pushed out of society.
this is so compassionate & true đą
So true, imagine a world where older women were celebrated. Something to look forward too instead to fear. It comes down to respecting your elders and respecring their experience and knowledge. I am so much happier at 42 than when I was 22 but I know I am off the market which is kind of peaceful but you do become invisible as a woman with age...
Women should support women and we wonât be lonely and invisible never again
Same
I'd encourage you to step back and interrogate fears like this with common sense. Being an outcast is very much the opposite of invisible. Outcasts are actively hated, and while they might not be the darlings of society, I feel it's an overstatement to call society's less youthful people 'hated'; becoming 'invisible', on the other hand, is essentially being accepted to an extreme degree. It can be extremely liberating to not be constantly scrutinised, subject to lofty expectations or expected to conform and follow trends, and personally I find a general melee can be enjoyed much more by watching from outside than being in it. Aging is inevitable, as is the paradigm shift it will bring, so to me it's much better to approach it by actively defining your own new paradigm, rather than desperately trying to conform and live up to someone else's existing one.
And as for not wanting to be pushed out of society: if your society pushes out the old, it's not worth being part of it.
I turned 42 a couple months ago. I realized one morning while getting ready for work that no matter what I do, itâs wrong. If I color my hair, Iâm trying too hard. If I donât dye it, Iâve given up. If I wear makeup Iâm fake. If I donât wear makeup, Iâbe let myself go. But whose standards are these? They are literally made up arbitrary beliefs weâve all bought into. So I quit caring. Mini skirts with tights for winter? Yes. Makeup? if I want to. Dying my hair? Absolutely⊠if I want to. And maybe itâs a natural color and maybe itâs purple. I didnât die when I turned 40, why should I act like it. Iâm going to wear what I want and look how I want and the people who have a problem with that, are the people with the problem. I am not the problem.
Just turned 43 last month... sending you a high five!
40 has been my best year so far. Do what you like looking how you like.
I'm 39 and dress like a 20 year old boy haha I have grey hair (when it isn't purple) and don't wear makeup ever. I don't even care b/c I'm comfy and happy. My husband doesn't ever have opinions on this either b/c his love for me is deeper than the way I look. If a stranger thinks I'm old or ugly who cares lol
Preach!
Exactly !! I absolutely love seeing Oder women live their life as they did in their 20s! Exactly right you donât die at 40 so why act like it ? Who do nothing and be plain just becuse your 40? Some crows feet doesnât mean all the sudden you got to wear granny church clothes .
iâve seen LOTS of sunscreen pushers recently. sunscreen use is great, but i hate how theyâll preach âitâs to prevent cancer!â then in the comments when people say âno iâm not applying sunscreen when iâm inside thatâs too much for meâ their insult back will ALWAYS be âwell when youâre a wrinkly old aged woman donât blame meâ like i thought this was about preventing cancer đ€š. theyâll use sun damage as a *see we arenât against women aging and looking older* then the second someone disagrees they drop their real reasoning.
It's so sad that misogynist men push women to care more about sunscreen for wrinkles than sunscreen for cancer...
Yes. I am a fair skinned person myself, and had been using sunscreens for a long time. But when this trend came, I was shocked about how people started to take it overly seriously. And yes, I had a feeling that it's more about wrinkles than sun damage. So I agree with you
And of course the amount of money that is made from sunscreen brands... Applying every two hours? Have you seen the size of these spf bottles?
Wow exactly đ
Sunscreen can be harmful. Especially for the ocean and corals. Look up the ingredients and decide for yourself if you want that on your skin. Not all sunscreens. But if you use blindly any brand, you might end up with things you wish you had rather not used.
I think its very unhealthy pushing all these anti-aging everywhere. The younger people will think when they get older they won't be considered "beautiful ". Also feel like when you get older you wont find love or even be worthy of love.
not just unhealthy, but heavily misogynistic too.
@@sweetembrace6706 period!
Iâm at that point. Iâm 27 and a lot of people used to think Iâm in my late teens for years but a lot of my peers havenât been saying that anymore. Canât tell if I look âdrasticallyâ older or if they just donât care to say anything about my looks anymore. Iâve also been through a relationship that made me self conscious of my looks when I never used to be. Iâm also into kpop which is an industry that demonizes older women so that doesnât help eitherâŠ
Getting older has never been consider beautiful, specially in women that's why the beauty industry is so big
It really is sad how much of our self worth is based on looks and how others perceive us
One thing I love about the goth community is that you see people up into their 60s and 70s at the club, wearing whatever the fuck they want, wearing black lipstick on their proudly wrinkled faces, rocking hair that's either naturally silver or dyed fun colors like purple and green, just enjoying life. Some are happily married, some are going more the "Blanche Deveroux" route, some are just there to enjoy the music, and it's great to see. While online, the goth scene may seem very young, thin, and paper-white, what I've seen near me at shows is much more diverse on all fronts, especially regarding age. Hanging out with aging punks and goths has totally changed my perspective on things.
Agree 100% †I did experience the same in the local goth and punk community. Youâre welcome, no matter your age đ
I love this comment! So true! I love the diversity in goth and punk events and communities! Itâs just like you say in my city as well. đ€
Similarly, I live in a "smaller" city, so the electronic music scene has a very friendly and age-diverse community. In fact, while the older people are still partying they're also the ones who are organizing events, teaching younger people technical skills for sound, lights and event planning and most importantly running harm reduction programs regarding consent and substance use. As a result I have friends from age 19 to 50s.
Yes they will always be young and free no matter their biologically age
You are so right! At the intersection of goth & vampire culture, age enhances the coveted undead, reincarnated look đ
Anti-aging should primarily be about health- feeling young and functional in your 70s, 80s, 90s+. Looking as good as you can is a bonus.
I would rename it for that purpose though.. aging-supportive or something
Totally agree. So many deal with chronic illnesses as they get older. We shouldnât be obsessing over gray hair and wrinkles, but care for our bodies through proper rest, nutrition, exercise, etc. in other words, the stuff thatâs hard to market/sell is what will give us the best quality of life
OMG this! I say this all the time, when i get older i wanna focus on being able to lift my grandkids up and run after my grandkids on their bikes or something like that. I could care less about the amount of wrinkles iâll get on my foreheadđ
@@thatsdisco aging healthily.
Agree with this 100%. When I turned 40, it became all about my health and wellness, not about looks or wrinkles. To me, feeling young is staying in shape/staying flexible as you age, not about zapping smile lines off of your face. Eat well, go to the gym, and stay active. Avoid the diseases that often come with age if you can.
It's sad how much racism is still prevalent in the medical industry. I am biracial Nordic and Arabic and I had an ER doctor tell my mother, when I was 16, that I was faking my period pain. He said ethnic women don't really feel pain so because of my Arabic heritage I wouldn't have pain like that. Turns out I have endometriosis and it's horrifically painful. I'm 34 now and decided to see a dermatologist just because I never have. The first one I went to I saw only once. He told me it was shocking I still looked young and I should feel lucky to be mixed because my Nordic genetics will help me look younger as ethnic women age faster.... what the actual hell. Both those doctors are apparently time travelers from the 1800's.
Those are both horrifying experiences đ” that last line got me đ€Łđ€Ł
Oh boy, what a "professional treatment." They both should go and return their medical diplomas, and you are right - get back to the 19th century, docs!
They deserved âethnicâ punches.
I agree! Years ago I had a dermatologist refuse to recommend a spf for me because Iâm African American and I donât need it. Funny cuz years later my cousin got skin cancer.
Lmao âethnicâ women age faster? Bc Nordic isnât an ethnicity? Science will tell you melanated skin ages slower but thatâs neither here nor thereâŠ.that doctor is a little biased
I never understood what's so shameful about aging. It means you've survived everything life has thrown at you. YOU LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO GET STUFF LIKE WRINKLES. A lot of people don't.
I truly agree with this. My mother complains sheâs an old invisible woman at 66 and Iâm likeâŠ??? Would you rather have died young??? Be grateful youâre alive! And menâs attention is nothing to look forward to anyway!
Ate it and left no crumbs
@GothicHippie LoveChild I don't think she means just men's attention. You literally become invisible, people don't want to help you because "ugh old person not knowing technology" or being treated as a burden just for existing because you walk slower than you used to. Accessibility becomes obsolete with increasing ailments due to old age. She means you don't get treated as a human anymore.
@@gothichippielovechild3198 easy to say when you are young. Thereâs a certain depression, loss of the hope of âthe future â and itâs not about men ignoring your mom, itâs the idea that no one cares about your identity as a person
@@rewdskwidAre you old? I doubt it. You probably just hear whiners looking for something to blame for their own terrible lives. I am old and no one treats me any differently than any other person in the room.
I hate how we simultaniously love "youth" and shame older women for natural signs of aging AND shame teenagers and young adults for natural signs of their youth and puberty like acne. We shame older women for being infertile AND shame pregnant and post-pardum mothers for signs of having had children like stretch marks, weight gain, sagging breast tissue and hair loss. You very literally cannot have it both ways.
@Alice Who what?
Because. Society. Hates. Women đ
Nobody is shaming people for signs of having stretch marks. You all are making up problems that do not exist.
@@littlewillow2274 people literally do and thats been known for a long time. idk why people try to deny obvious stuff, like its not going to work lol
@@zitron6416 People are denying it because it doesn't happen. What isn't going to work is making up some non-existent issue and pretending like it actually happens. Nobody is really going around shaming people for showing signs ageing.
Iâm in my 20âs and my roomate is in her 80âs and honestly itâs the perfect match! I get to live in the city with low rent and she has someone in case of an emergency or just for company. We get along so well and I hope rooming college age kids and elders together becomes more common as it really is an ideal solution to two growing problems.
Did the same with my grandma when I went to college. I'd cook for her, do chores, take her to appointments and we could be good company for each other as my grandpa had been dead for decades. We learned a lot about each other and she was my best friend. Miss you a lot grandma
That sounds like a beautiful experience :) Hopefully I can experience it one day.
What a cool living arrangement.
Sounds pretty nice
I take care of a 98 year old holocaust survivor her movie is BIG Sonia. Anyways Iâm very lucky to spend every day a week there but her surgery is coming up and Iâll start sleeping over there I have before and itâs so fun itâs like best friend. But it is a job so I had to draw an appropriate boundary between sleeping over every night and my life. In a different way we are friends but I am her caregiver. I love hanging out with her
I've seen people say someone looked good for their age when they were barely 30.
Usually, it is teens online who have grown up in a society that has taught us that 30 is this mystical barrier where you suddenly turn to boring grey dust, of course.
Actually they do this to me and Iâm only 24. Sometimes older people do this to you to feel good about themselves, they exaggerate your age thinking doing this is going to make them go backwards... They should be grateful because not everyone get to see a certain age. For me this is a great blessing
I had someone tell me this and Iâm 20. This was a college freshmen shocked that Iâm a junior because she always thought the juniors were âcrustyâ. Crusty??? I am only TWO years older than you!
Reminds me of Bridget Jones mindset.
Every single person reacting to any ol' hag on Euphoria who's over 25: "OMGGG I thought she was *young* ?!!!!! I hope I look that good when I'm OLD!"
So true.. We all thought that till we hit 30 ourselves and realized "nothing had happened" and it was nothing magical about it đ€Ș Just a little older and viser. I used to think that 25 was kinda old when I was a teenager. I was 18 and my boyfriend at the time was 25, he was kinda old đ Perspective đ©đ€đ» Personally, turning 20 was the hardest for me.
The industry has a serious obsession with womensâ age. We constantly see old men dating all these young girls. Ariana posted one picture where she looked a little older in the photo and the comments swarmed in about her looking âillâ. Aging is literally normal and human? Are we not humans now? Well I guess women have always been objects for people to judge from the outside. Constantly seeing women who look so young in the media has really changed the way people see women even more. Why do we treat women as if the minute they hit 30 theyâre trash. Even when they are older, the celebrities that stay relevant tend to STILL look young. Since thatâs all we see we start to think itâs abnormal to age while nobody bats an a eye when men age. Itâs so weird and its just another dumb standard for women used to poison the minds of women to rack in money from the consumerism. It really pisses me off how many things the patriarchy nitpicks just to make us all feel so insecure to the point we are willing to go as far as possible to prove ourselves. Nothing is ever perfect enough. We will never truly love ourselves like this. I feel so bad for the young girls growing up with social media now.
@Ashley Nicole artists are definitely becoming more known for just their image. Donât get me wrong, thereâs good shit out there but thereâs wayyy too much focus on the influencer part that real talent is being replaced. Just look at the people who get famous on tik tok instead of real professional talent. Which is weird cuz public figures are all being held under a microscope for their image they canât even fuck up once yet their talent doesnât seem to matter.
Ariana didn't look older in that photo. She looked malnourished :/ I think its been obvious that she's been battling with an ED for a very long time.
@Trinity M
Its...not criticism. Its concern. Same goes for men too. But whatever ig.
@@Nyxthebat04 I donât think people know what 30âs looks like. Getting older, getting wrinkles, is what makes you start to look âtiredâ, âillâ and why people are so desperate to halt it. Aging isnât just wrinkles. A 30 yr old is going to look 30 - not 40, but also not 20!!
@@user-gh8bm8ct5t I'm well aware of what aging looks like. By the way, 30 is still really young!!! This is so weird.
Edit: Wrinkles don't make you look tired and ill!!
Most of my family is over 60 now. My grandma is 92 this year. Most of them are fairly healthy, but some have faced serious health issues that come with aging. All I have to say is that the scary part of aging isn't losing beauty, but losing strength, mobility, health, and autonomy.
We die of something... actually it isn't age!
Exactly
I think if society was more accommodating if those who lack strength, mobility, and health, and provided accessible, affordable social services and didn't shame anyone who needed to use said social services, it would be less scary. As a physically disabled person, I see a lot of the fear around aging as similar to the fears around becoming disabled. Being old and/or being disabled doesn't have to be scary. But many of the ways society has made it actively harder to be disabled and/or aging has made these things scarier than they have to be.
@@homecentipede yes, I think that's 100% true! If there was more care into making sure seniors and people who are physically disabled were taken into account when thinking about policies, care, how most things are designed, it wouldn't be as scary.
@@hsh8729 well itâs true nobody technically dies of aging, aging is a degenerative disease that makes it way easier for things to kill you.
I think the annoying thing about the Julia Fox video for me is that 1. She still equates aging with ugliness and 2. Why must something be "hot" to be valid/respected? I don't care if aging is "in" or "hot." My hope is that I will age happily and still be respected and valued by others regardless of whether I age gracefully or not. Idk it's just weird that even when people are trying to be body positive there's still an obsession with attractiveness, with being looked up to or desired, when I think the main concern should be acceptance.
Julia is a very unhappy, messed up woman. Have you ever seen her art?
You are right, but i still think it good tgat she said what she said. Just like it is said in the video, sometimes you know what is the feminist way to do, but it us easier said than done. It is very important to remember and keep repeating that your beauty or your ugliness or whatever is up with it, all your looks will never matter more than inside. And it absolutely should be valued less, especially in women.
But it is also a nice confirmation to say "you're hot, you're attractive the way that you are, that feature of yours is super hot". Otherwise some people will hear how desirable they are all the time, and others will never, others will only hear "looks is not that matter darling" which freaking sucks. I would like for everyone to hear sometimes that they are freaking hot, thats a nice experience, everyone should have it
@@user-himenes love this thoughtful comment đđ»â€ïžđđ»
Sometimes I think saying itâs âhotâ and âinâ is a way to make themselves feel better about becoming at peace with letting go of standards. When you spend your life fighting hard to teach them itâs hard to just instantly be like âNope, this is just me.â So saying itâs âinâ helps them take that first step. Sometimes you have to crawl before you can run sorta speak.
I do agree w you! Thx for sharing your thoughts because we are sharing the same one. Sometime it is just so tiring to live in society
Leena Norms' video essay explaining why Mamma Mia is revolutionary in its joyful, silly, fun depiction of single middle aged women is both heartfelt and analytical and I highly recommend it to viewers who need to see a more positive depiction to cheer them up, and to reinforce the idea that the way we view older women is not normal and remind ourselves that our current way we see older women doesn't have to be normalised in the way it so often is.
ty!!
I will revel in any opportunity to love mamma mia. Thank you!!
Yeah that was a great video
Yes!! It was so exciting to see a middle aged woman being silly with her besties, having a full life, running a business, etc. It made me realize life isnât over until itâs over.
Another point to add is that Hollywood often casts women in their 20s to play roles meant for people in their 30s and older (example Jennifer Lawrence in Joy). I think that also contributes to people having a warped sense of what aging is "supossed" to look like.
I remember (not sure if Mina said it in another vid), that one actress came out and said that she was turned down for playing the love interest for an actor because she was "too old" at like 45. And the actor was 50. They wanted a woman most likely in her 20s to play the love interest. I agree that is a big contributor to not realizing what aging on a woman looks like. They won't even show us an age-appropriate pairing on screen. And it contributes to women's fears that they won't be able to date once they're older.
It always makes me angry seeing younger women playing women in their 30-40s
Also, they cast women in their 20s to play roles in highschool, so you are supposed to look the same from 16 to almost 40, which is not possible even with cosmetic procedures
Theyâll also have a 21 year old play a heart surgeon or whatever. Itâs gets pretty stupid.
they also do the reverse with people in their 30s to play high schooler so actual high schoolers are somewhat pushed to look older
I've always looked younger than my age literally JUST because I'm short and have a round face. That's it. And the number of people who, since I was in HIGH SCHOOL have told me things like "you'll appreciate it when you're older" or acted like it was a compliment is actually so beyond insulting. Looking younger isn't a good thing, being infantilized isn't a good thing, people refusing to take you seriously isn't a good thing just because youth is considered more attractive. Not only is it "Why is youth considered more attractive" its also "Why is being considered attractive supposed to outweigh the many downsides of people refusing to see or treat me like a grown woman?"
That's a very good point. So because others see you as pretty it shouldn't matter that they don't bother to listen to you, and you should just be grateful? That's so manipulative, cause it transfers your attention from a valid complaint to something you're supposed to feel good about.
SAME and guess what now i am older and i still do not appreciate it
the patronising itself is enough
not to mention i have depression , every new day and birthdays are A WIN
I was JUST talking to a friend about this today. We're both medical students and are on the shorter side with rounder features. We worry about how much we'll be taken seriously as physicians and I was telling her how I'm so tired of people always telling me that "I'll appreciate it when I'm older". Like--that doesn't help me now, even if looking young forever was something I was interested in in the first place.
I totally agree. No one would take me seriously as a physician. I asked my husband to take a pic of me from his POV and I looked like a kid. Is that how everyone sees me??
Thank you for bringing up this point, I'm in my late 30s and I look quite younger so people treat me like that, and it feels like they're erasing ten years of my life, easily the best ten years of my life. Also I would exchange my "youthful looks" for less joint pain in a second, lol
The idea of "rich women never aging" really reminds me of a sales film about "modern kitchen design" from the late 1940's. One of the major selling points made to the husband to get a new kitchen was "you don't want your lovely young wife to wear out and age before her time."
I stopped wearing makeup when I was 28 outside of formal events and job interviews. I didn't like how uncomfortable I felt without it on. My husband's job moved us across the country and I decided to stop since nobody knew what I looked like with makeup on. It's the best decision I've ever made and saves me so much time and money. I'll be 34 in a few weeks and I'm pregnant with my first child. I was really at peace with looking older as I age.... It wasn't until we started trying to conceive that I realized 35 was considered geriatric pregnancy. The realization that I'm closer to menopause than puberty shook me more than looking older.
I was 35 when I got pregnant, did not love being called geriatric every appointment lol
That's really messed up to hear
I feel ya I could never regularly wear makeup. For me, my face always felt filthy, like my skin cant breathe, also I would just end up smearing most of it off in a couple hours, and always ended up with smeared up panda eyes within minutes lol
They should really update the verbiage to "advanced pregnancy" or something bc geriatric as a term sounds so gross to refer to otherwise young people with! Like it's ok to be geriatric when you are actually old, but labeling young people as geriatric when they're 35+ is ridiculous. Medical professionals and researchers are quick to give negative/reductionist phraseology to issues that affect women & afab people most.
I'm 27 and stopped wearing makeup too, gradually at first and now I only wear it if I'm going to dress up more. When I was a teen and in college, I couldn't have imagined that I'd be comfortable wearing absolutely no makeup in public. But I think the pandemic gave me an excuse to cut it out, since it was silly to bother with it when we wore masks anyway. And the time it saves, omg the best part. I don't have to get up 1.5 hours early for everything anymore!
Congrats on your little one! (Kinda fcked up they call later pregnancies "geriatric" though tbh, they should find a more accurate name for it)
I'm chronically ill and have almost died multiple times, so I didn't expect to still be here. So cosmetic signs of aging are a pleasant surprise for me đ
me too! i haven't nearly died from my chronic illness though. i have POTS and svt. (very scary though) what about you? but yes i want to age lol!
Happy you're here! â€ïž
I personally found myself elated upon hearing the news I may die young (in early 20âs), since it meant I wouldnât have to worry about aging anymore :p the glamorized âeternally young in deathâ thing is real, so harmful to realize Iâd prefer to choose beauty over life, or deep down have come to believe a life without beauty is ultimately meaningless for women⊠so happy we are finally adressing this issue, along with the cheating epidemic.
I'm also chronically ill, and while I'm not living with anything strictly life threatening, I know my lifespan is probably a lot shorter than it would be if I were "healthy." I'm fighting for my life every single day, and if I get to 40 or more that would be a huge victory. I'm excited to see how my face will change with time, how my body will change.
Literally me, when I'm like: "Man, I'm old" and then "Wow, I lived to be this old, huh?"
Wish you well, though. Them slow-eating chronical diseases are awful - they're making you sick all the time, but people around you are not sympathetic, because you're dying too slowly to notice(
This needs to be talked about more. So many celebrities are lying to their fans about their filler and surgeries.
Because they get shit on if they do talk about it.
@@cantsay2205 i feel like tge conversations are opening up tho, there will always be people that hate but if they were honest about it, it can further inform other people the reality if these things
In The Hunger Games, the rich, upper class Capitol has most of itâs citizens have done so many cosmetic procedures that theyâre considered monsters by the poorer people. They could be instantly recognized by there inhuman perfection. The tributes (who were chosen from the lower classes) were practically forced to use copious amount of make up and do a bunch of cosmetic procedures without their consent. This book just gets more and more real as time passes huh
đ€Żđ€Żđ€Ż yoooo
rewatched the films as an adult just recently (loved them as a kid) and was heartbroken to see all the things I used to find unbelievable and think "thank god this is just a story", are now seriously becoming our reality :( most dystopian literature is quite spot on actually.. Fahrenheit 451 was disturbing to read... burning books to control society... look at our reality now, where schools in the US are going crazy banning books that go against their beliefs. its all so so so sad.
My grandma said, that every wrinkle on your face is a sign you laughed. And that grey hair is stardust on our heads. I donât mind getting older and I will never get any procedures done. I just put a cream on my face, because of dry skin đ€·đ»ââïž
How is every wrinkle om my face a sign I laughed? All wrinkles are not from laughinh
As a great tweet I saw once said: aging is not even half as scary as what's going on with those who try to avoid it
something that also needs to be addressed is the gate keeping of youth. I feel like I canât partake in the events that I enjoy doing bc itâs a space for young people. Like people constantly make it a mandatory norm that when youâre 30+ you canât party or dance bc itâs weird and thatâs something exclusive for young people. Youâre just supposed to go to work and come home and rest and for fun you go do sedentary activities with people of your age group. Like why does my life and wardrobe have to turn boring all of a sudden bc society will look down on me for âtrying to be youngâ when Iâm just trying to have fun?
Right
@Subi you sound really obnoxious.
How the hell would you know someone you see having a good time ONCE is partying 'every night'? Or maybe they have their life together but can have fun too. Or maybe they don't have their life together, but I would still rather be them than someone obnoxious 'lol'ing from afar and feeling superior.
@Subi Why does partying mean being messy though?
@@subi1606 if the 30 yr olds arent engaging in predatory/generally ill-intentioned behavior with the teens/young adults..then whats pathetic about it? that in their 30s they still want to let loose? that they enjoy partying? how does it affect you whether that 30 yr old has their life together or not? like are you an economist to be concered about why a 30yr old is partying instead of being 'productive' and 'put-together' lmfao??
@@user-bf5ud6eg2i I whole-heartedly agree. Iâve seen a few comments stating that it aggravates them how they are ostracized by younger people, but I feel like as a grown adult you shouldnât really be searching for validation from teenagers anyway??? Enjoy whatever it is you want to enjoy, but young people really appreciate when they have space is just for them, so it shouldnât really be a demand that they share in a way.
Like, teens are pretty dumb, mean, and are usually targeted themselves by bitter adults. (although, I say this as a teen, so my perspective is definitely biased). I feel like the main issue, which luckily I have seen other people bring up, is the fact that adults themselves (usually 30+ men) are picking at other adults for also being old(er) and not being or looking younger than 25 for the rest of their life.
I absolutely hate that the 'not taking care of your skin ' sentiment is so prevalent. I've always tried to do the best I can with the little money I have, but all I can do with my limited income is prevent my skin from drying out. It's always been sensitive and I've always looked older than I am, I consider skincare a luxury I can only ever afford in tiny increments. Healthy skin is due to a mix of genetic luck and financial security and the judgement on people who don't achieve youthful perfection is honestly way more upsetting than whatever whining people do who feel judged for indulging in expensive skincare. I don't care if someone gets these treatments, but the complaints I've seen from some of them pisses me off, because guess what! People who can't afford these things are judged much more harshly!
It's true. All I do with my skin is wash it with water, cheap Sorbolene lotion sometimes, and wear sunscreen. And my skin is FINE. It's not the product. It's genetics and luck. Doing a 12 step cleanse for my skin wouldn't do anything.
I can highly recommend oil massages and oil cleansing without the use of soaps!
FYI, some of the simplest products are the cheapest and actually the best. I knew a woman who was in her fifties who was a biochemist working in the French cosmetics industry who had amazing skin.
So, of course I assumed she used very expensive skin care cosmetics to make her skin look that way. But when I asked her she said actually she used $8 argan oil from Trader Joeâs. And the secret was taking a lot of time to massage it into her skin. But it wasnât expensive.
The expense of a lot of âluxuryâ skin products is actually the preservatives and the packaging -so that it can stay on the shelf longer-Not to make it more effective.
I'm 32. I worked with a bunch of 19-22 year Olds and I got "omg sis you look so good for a 30 year old." And I was silently really offended.
I call people out when they say this. I want to know what exactly do they mean and why apparently only younger people can look good.
30 isn't even old... What is wrong with society xd
Silently? Girl next time please make sure to snap right back at them. They need to get exposed on their awful behavior. If no one says anything, it's only gonna get worse.
Lmao @ â30â being old. I feel bad for those girls, they will look a messsssss when they hit 25 if they have THAT mentality. Yikessssssđ„Ž
Itâs frustrating how genetics are disregarded when it comes to aging. Iâve had forehead lines and eyebrow lines since I was a teenager, so I guess I should have started preventitive botox in the womb.
Yep. I have DEEP laugh/smile lines. Have always had them. Makes me look like a puppet but I dunno, just never cared enough to get them fixed.
I mean...90% of the people who look GREAT and super young into their 50's, that's 99% genetics. There's simply nothing you could do to look like Paul Rudd or Jlo into your 50's, you just have to be blessed with luck p much. That's the scary bit, it's like beauty, it's random.
True my dad didn't have any gray hair or fine line till late 50s. I always looked you get but I try to get away from basing myself esteem on that.
My friend has like DEEP deep forehead and smile lines since forever, just like her mom and grandma, and she still looks like a teen/young woman. Wrinkles are not equal to aging
Some lines are caused by the structure and the motion of the face, not all are signs of aging. If certain parts of your face tend to fold more because of your facial features, you will very quickly develop lines there.
I'm so glad Mina is talking about this, the number of teenagers who talk as though everyone has one foot in the grave at the ripe age of 25 makes me sad. I spent most of my early 20s being a miserable mess lol. To anyone younger, please don't think that period must be the peak of your life or else it is "wasted", time keeps moving forward and things do get better as you take that time to work through things!
I'm 18 and was/am terrified of getting older because... everyone says this as good as it gets and this has SUCKED lol. I've got screenshots of things I've seen on the internet to remind myself it's not the general consensus but it's slightly misery inducing hearing people say the time of your life that had you on the brink of some very bad things are the easiest and most worth living.
I agree â€
@@nastassjahall9358 it is definitely NOT as good as it gets to be sure!!! you have a lot of a great life to live! my friends in their 30s seem to be on the whole happier than my 20s friends even
@@nastassjahall9358 yesss I'm 18 as well and just graduated high school and so many adults have said that high school years will be the best years of my life but it honestly sucked so much. I too have ss and pins saved on pinterest to remind me that life isn't over but only just beginning!!
@@emilyr8668 honestly I've heard that but very rarely. A teacher I had once told me in all honesty she was enjoying her 30s more than any other part of her life yet and it made me feel dramatically less hopeless. It also made me realize how honestly sad all opinions of how a teenager was the best and so easy were.
I had a friend who would cry every year on her birthday from 21 onward until she became married and pregnant at 29. Then, she finally felt at peace on that birthday. She called herself âoldâ every year! Sadly, there can be so much cultural/societal pressure placed on women to marry and have children.
I literally don't care I'm 40. Not sure I would feel the same if I were unmarried with no children
@@glitterstarbeau you didn't live her life.
Literally we all look forward to 21 but then want to stay there
Me... I'm 26 and I worry I'll never marry...
I am so terrified of turning 21 in like 3-4 years
Iâm from Latin America and itâs no secret weâre deeply influenced by American marketing, so all throughout the video I could recognize many of those âageismâ beliefs within my own culture.
I wanted to share something though, I live in Spain now and one of the things that surprised me the most is that when you go out for drinks, dancing or any other nighttime activities it is pretty common to see a lot of older people having a blast. Like it was the first time for me to witness something like this, and it really got me thinking how our brains are kind of wired to believe that having fun and else ends when youâre old. Dude itâs a lie, you can be 60 or 70 or more and lit have an active s-x life and be part of clubbing culture. I think Europe, or at least Spainâs take on ageing is a little different
There is a lot of of anti ageing propaganda though
It's in times like these that medias like The Golden Girls and Grace and Frankie are mpre important than ever, since they push back against society trying to erase and minimize older women; they show that it's okay to grow old, and you can do it in your own way đ
YES! I love the Golden Girls and Grace and Frankie!!! đ
I agree, although I think Jane Fonda doesn't represent natural aging particularly well, since she has undergone many anti-aging procedures.
Just watched the first episode of "Grace and Frankie" on Netflix as per your recommendation - thank you!
I love watching The Golden Girls!
I remember reading a comment where a girl said GG made her less scared of aging because it told her that just because she's "old" it doesn't mean she stops living. She can still make new friends, do new things, have romances, and have a real life. She's just older. She still has a solid half of her life left to live.
Iâve recently turned 21 and ever since Iâve just developed a fear of aging. Iâve just seen a huge influx of people talking about womenâs value going down with age. Itâs scary because people make it seem like life stops after 29 and it doesnât! I hope the next generation of women donât feel this pressure because it actually takes away from you enjoy everything in life
It starts after! 20s suck
Don't worry I'm 29 and life doesn't stop at 29 and I am finally starting a carreer I like, I've started going out again, making new friends, traveling, dating
There's always new things to expérience, and you are more mature so some things bother you less for example, I feel so much happier now than at age 19 or even 25
same! turned 20 and now i am panicking
I turned 30 this year and I had/have the same fears. It's true, to some people I'm now past my expiration date. I still have to remind myself that my life ISN'T over. I am just about to graduate from grad school and start my life. I could truly go anywhere next at this point.
One aspect I struggled with a lot was feeling like I didn't accomplish my goals as an athlete. I would always google how old athletes were when they won their first world championship or "oldest olympians" etc. I've only recently decided that just because someone *hasn't* done it yet, doesn't mean someone *can't* do it.
Keep believing in yourself and in your self-worth. You'll be okay. :)
I am 43 yes the old lady of the comments, I look better now than I ever did in my 20âs or 30âs. Donât stress. Drink lots of water, donât over do the sunscreen cause you need absorbed vitamin d. And find something that gives you joy. Like rollerscating or photography something that uncomplicated that you enjoy and check out of your stress.
What ages people most is worrying about things we canât control.
There's a wonderful book in French called "SorciĂšres, la puissance invaincue des femmes" (Witches, the unbroken power of women) which has nothing to do with magic ^^ but talks in depth about the "unwanted" women of our society, notably the old woman. It's heartbreaking. I wish for more compassion for the elderly in general, as we will all get there (and if we don't, it's actually worse, because it means we've died an early death)...
Also I'm 31 and I've never feared the appearance of age... but I'm terrified of the problems that come when the body doesn't work well anymore. Chronic pain. Memory loss. Just functioning too slowly, not grasping things. Not being able to do the things that are important to me. THAT's scary - not wrinkles.
It's a long grieving process, but most of us survive it until actual death happens. But everyone's experience is different. 62 and chronically ill here.
Agree 100%
I like to watch documentaries about people who got really old while staying quite fit. It's really inspiring. Even if you believe that it's mostly genetics (not true) it's quite obvious that the average person can do a lot more for their health. Just staying active, having a healthy weight and eating nutritious foods that don't clogg your arteries can do so much for you.
I'm in college, so I'm almost always surrounded by 18-23 year olds. One of my friends started college at 16, so she's already younger than most of the people she's around. She called herself old the other day and I was literally left speechless. Our societal view of aging is so skewed that a 16 year old who's two years ahead of the majority of her peers can truly view herself as old without hesitation.
Sometimes one can feel mentally old like just really mentally tired. And what is going on in someone's head isn't always showing on the outside. The brain is weird that way. Possibly feels like she can't relate to the carefree attitude of her peers. I used to be the same way as a kid. Now I feel immature as an adult because I'm not doing supposedly adult things like starting a family etc.
Iâm 20 and already insecure about âfine linesâ on my forehead. Iâm able to nip the insecurity in the bud and I just use SPF and moisturize, but what kind of world do we live in where people feel like their value largely comes from their looks? I hate it.
I have the same insecurity I just turned 24 and I feel like ppl probably view me as middle aged đ
You are too young to worry. Take care of your skin the best you can, and try to live a healthy life style. If you can quit alcohol, not smoke, and stay active it makes a HUGE difference by the time you hit your 30âs and up. Not to mention taking care of your mental health too. Plus emotionally I can assure you the confidence you start gaining after you hit 30âs is a beautiful thing. You will NOT want to go back to your twenties!
I'm 23 and I love the idea that one day I'll have lines on my forehead, crowsfeet and smile lines đ Wrinkles are testaments to all the emotions you have felt and expressed during your life. Let's embrace them!
@@toryt1849same Iâm 23 and already starting to obsess over where my wrinkles will be showing up
@@sofidittmar8917 it only gets worse from here, collagen production drops by 1% every year after 25 :)))
i grew up with 3 generations of women.
My grandmother, mother and older sister.
They loved themselves in each step and we loved each other's features. I could have felt selfconscious or bad about my big cheeks if only my grandmother didnt say i looked like my grandfather's sister, who she described as an incredibly beautiful and kind person.
I saw my mother, whilst trying to lose weight and be healthy, love her belly fat because i loved to lay on it as a child because it was soft, so she felt a bad hating the belly her baby loved.
I saw my sister, an incredibly confident and amazing girl herself, rock acne and other growing marks that should have made her ugly but couldnt because she didnt hide them, she tried to treat her skin but never once have i heard her say she was ugly.
My incredibly curly hair is lovely because it looked like my grandmothers when she was young, and i know i will have her beautifull white locks that she loves because i said they looked beautiful and shiny like the moon's reflection on water. All these women have scars, be it because of growth, surgery or the work they've done throughout their lifes, the work of caring for others.
They made me who i am, and i love myself and my body for it.
Im not scared of growing old because i know i will look like them.
I feel that if only every little girl grew surrounded by women who loved each other and each other's features and bodies as a whole, the world would be a more beautiful place.
This is so lovely, aside from social media and beauty advertisements I think a lot of our self-consciousness comes from the things we hear our mothers and grandmothers say about their own bodies, and since we likely will look similar to them we internalize those negative things about our own bodies. I'm so glad your family is loving of each of your unique features.
this made me emotional ok
Thank you for sharing. đ Today I wore no make up (except for brows) instead of the usual concealer to cover up acne. I forced myself to keep up my positive outlook and demeanor and still had a wonderful day. Then read this comment and solidified everything I was thinking. I will carry this with me if I have a family someday.
This is an amazing lovely comment it was nice to see today! đThank you đ
Your comment absolutely made my day, I literally teared up cuz of how beautiful you described everything. Thank you for sharing this â€ïž
Hey, thanks for this video. Iâm a 42 year old woman who, I must admit, is mourning her younger, pretty and skinny self. In the span of two years, Iâve gotten obese, older looking, and , and Iâm sorry about the wording but for a lack of a better word, uglier. Yes, I have definitely lost my looks. I was always praised for looking younger than my actual age, sometimes even like a decade younger, and all of a sudden I started looking my age. Also my body is not as strong as before, Iâve had three injuries on my legs in less than a year, which has left me unable to exercise hence the obesity. I also suffer from mental illness and medication thatâs been life saving has also made me gain tons of weight, that I canât shred due to the aforementioned inability to exercise. Whatâs my point? That if I think rationally, I know Iâm being too hard on myself, that aging is a normal process and also there have been tons of factors into this âloss of looksâ, and not because of neglecting my self-care. After been praised for years, all of a sudden Iâm no longer desirable and that hurts. Yes, itâs a shallow way of thinking, but I just canât help it, and this situation is really overwhelming. That youthful self was my identity. Now I feel like Iâm a different person, both physically and emotionally. Does this ever go away? Will I ever realize that my worth is more than my looks? That Iâm smart, outgoing, a good friend, hardworking etc. But why is that all I can think of are my looks? I hate feeling like this but we are so immersed into this cult of youth and beauty, that we become borderline blind and canât see the big picture. Thanks to anyone who read this, I just needed to vent
I sympathize with you . I feel like Iâve had a similar situation for myself. I feel like I accept me for me in my looks and any other way but I also still have the outside societal pressures still creep in my mind and make me think maybe I am wrong for accepting myself
I have never related to something moreâŠ. THANK YOU for saying the truth. It is my truth too.
Iâm 55 and can relate to not recognizing my body. I used to be physically strong and then I got Graves and lost muscle mass. It has taken me a few years to accept but now I focus mainly on being grateful for being alive. And I tell myself daily to accept that I need to do exercises to build muscles and to eat and never skip meals. I hope you find your way to focus on what you are and what you have, give yourself permission to mourn what you have lost (I know, darn itâs hard sometimes). And find ways to take good care of yourself. All the best.
I'm currently watching a Canadian series, 'Anne with an E' and one of the things that struck me most was how honest they were about Marilla's aging.
She had the wrinkles, eye bags smile lines that one would expect from a 60-70 year old woman, and I shouldn't have been surprised but I was.
I've grown accustomed to seeing the smooth foreheads and wrinkle-less faces of celebrities old enough to be my parents and grandparents and in that moment of surprise I felt sad that seeing actual aging on a woman felt so strange. Because it is inevitable for everyone. She looked...real. Like a person I knew but forgot.
We need to normalize aging. It doesn't have to be sexy. It's a natural progression of life. It is people that died young that never aged, which is tragic.
We should all feel glad to reach our golden years and beyond.
"Anne with an E" is an amazing series, I have learned so many life lessons from it. The book is also amazing.
Yes! Loved that!
Same with the mother of Willem in young royals. The actress that plays her is 65 yo and I think that itâs fabulous that they didnât choose a 35 yo fabulous looking woman. I mean, she is the queen of Sweden, she has two child that are almost adult, it seems logical that she doesnât looks super young
And beauty shouldnât matter, but personally I think Marilla is a beautiful lady. Which she technically shouldnât be from what society tells us about her wrinkles and gray hair. But she is.
Was recently standing in line at a store and overheard a mother praising her teen daughter for buying retinol serum, claiming that if she uses it now, she won't be stuck "fixing" her skin later like her mother. Not only have they guilted older women into blaming themselves for not "preventing" natural aging, but now those women are passing that fear down to their daughters
@@grrt722 no
@@grrt722 no
@@grrt722 no
Oooof the only thing that mom should be buying for her daughter's skin is a cleanser and a sunscreen. Poor kid.
Retinol is used for acne scars and dark spots. Has nothing to do with aging
Thank you for this! As a 52 year old lady who has accepted that I am now basically invisible in Society (your loss Society), I absolutely went through a mourning period for my younger self because it really did feel like The Most Important Part Of Me was gone forever. Back in the 90s, during the supermodel times, I spent so much effort and focus on my appearance because I received positive reinforcement from every direction to do so and fully underestimated all of my other important qualities in the process. With the loss of my youth came the ability to see my inner strengths, and I'm now able to flex "muscles" I had been ignoring for so many years. Doing my best to age fiercely!
I just logged in to like this comment. You're awesome Heidi!
You had me at *your loss society*
LOVE!
As my mom gets older (she's only 46), I try to constantly remind her she is beautiful. No matter if she points out her gray hair, a wrinkle on her face, or how she feels she's reaching the end of her "youthfulness," I try to always let her know aging is a wonderful thing and I'd never look at her any differently.
need more films with aged, honest heroines who do unexpected things
You need to see âEverything everywhere all at onceâ! It was exactly that
@@nahttina Thatâs one of the reasons I loved it!!!!
people need to consume less media in general and stop assuming it represents the real world
Aging is a privilege many will never experience! Embrace it! We will all die (unfortunately). If you want to age well, use sunscreen and tretinoin. No matter what JLo says, olive oil will not make anybody look like her - a lot of treatments and procedures will.
Edit: just saw the last few minutes of the video. I must say that DeFino is pretty badly regarded in the beauty journalism space. She doesn't deal in facts and pushes a lot of disinformation. She's also known for misinterpreting studies because she doesn't have the expertise to understand them. And for all that's worth, she doesn't even have any education related to journalism. Every dermatologist worth its salt will tell you that tretinoin is the gold standard in anti-aging skincare. And studies show it actually doesn't make you more sensitive to the sun in the long term (it does for the first 3 months).
Exactly! I lost my grandma a couple weeks ago and she looked 70 when she was 70. It would be an honor to have as full a life as she did.
@@abbysc417 I'm so sorry for your loss! Sending you virtual hugs!
Yep!!
Unfortunately Iâll probably never reach 40 due to my disabilities so if I do I will be so happy I made r to my old age and get to experience
@@cha0ticneutralbigsi am rooting for you and for your health đ
Anti-aging marketing makes my blood boil. I had a friend die at sixteen, and I remember this very uncomfortable pseudo-comfort people would offer that she was so young and beautiful and would always be remembered that way. Growing up when she could not is a privilege and I am not going to accept being expected to feel ashamed for continuing to live when so many don't get to
That is a messed up way of comforting someone.. Sorry about your loss â€ïž
When you see 15 yr olds begin to use anti aging products and worrying about looking old, you know something is SERIOUSLY wrong with society.
I'm 24, and i already feel like I'm falling behind and not doing enough to look young. The pressure is insane and it's carzy how much it happens subconsciously.
i am 15 and feel like this as well
My nan always says âyouâre not getting old, you get to be oldâ. And I think thatâs really beautiful.
Iâve gotten Botox since I was 17 but itâs because I have terrible TMJD so I literally only get it in my jaw so I can you know eat. Personally I hate having to get it, itâs expensive, itâs painful and, itâs tiring. For me my doctor says I canât lay down for at least 8 hours after I get it just to be safe.
As a child I saw my mum and nan never worry about aging, they never died their hair or worried about their wrinkles they just live life and let their bodies age. I think that, that was very good for me to see as a kid because Iâve never worried about aging. Sure I have my skin care routines and I take care of my hair and body. But I know that one day the greys will come, my face will show all the times Iâve smiled or laughed, my body wonât be the same looks wise or functionally. And thatâs okay because Iâm lucky that I get to age.
I got Botox once to try to reduce my chronic migraines (it did not work) but it paralyzed my eyebrows and I was so self-conscious about it that I got bangs to hide them đ
Hi! Iâve also gotten masseter Botox for TMJD. I know itâs an off-label use for Botox, and I really recommend you listen to this podcast episode with an attorney who has won cases against Allergan. There is research showing Botox can migrate in the body, and have pretty bad side effects even years later. The FDA only approves 40 units in the face, and itâs only approved for glabella (11s) and crows feet. Masseter Botox uses so many units because the muscles are so strong, I think I was getting around 100 units- and that only lasts 3-4 months!
I truly wish I had never gotten the Botox, itâs a toxin (if it gets in the bloodstream it can cause botulism- Botox even has a black box warning on it, but I was never told that, and most people arenât). I know how awful TMJ pain can be, and I really suggest looking into facial massage. Thereâs a type of massage called buccal/intraoral, where you massage the masseter from both inside and outside, and itâs provided more relief than Botox ever did.
I know this was long, Iâm just really passionate about raising awareness about this. Facial massage for muscle tension makes so much more sense to me, Botox was a very expensive bandaid and the risks just arenât worth it imo
Hereâs the podcast episode! czcams.com/video/ixGfG9aX_GY/video.html
@@amypark3311 oh my gosh thank you for this info. I too was never told any of this. I havenât gotten it in a while due to the cost but I will definitely look into other treatments now for sure. Iâve tried mouth guards, physical therapy, needling, liquid diets so I thought Botox was my last hope
@@amypark3311 the TMJD crew has to stick together and help each other out lol. I live in Canada which everyone knows it for itâs amazing free health care but non of my treatments have been covered (something about it not being a treatable illness or smth idk) itâs all out of pocket. So if I can find something that works Iâd gladly pay for it over what Iâve been doing right now.
it's always ''you look so beautiful for your age'' and never ''you look so beautiful because you just are''
It's almost like beauty is about visual aesthetics or something.
Itâs actually such a privilege to age. I was in a car crash that flipped over five times when I was 25. It was a miracle that neither me nor the other person in the car were injured, but that and another scare forced me to really think about those things. But with each sign of aging that you get as you grow older, remember that there are many who didnât get to make it to that point. You gain wisdom and experience each year, and there is so much more to life than fitting into the mold of youth and âbeauty.â
And as you grow older, if someone stops loving you for what you look like, then did that person who loved you for your youth truly love you, or did they only see you as an object? Thatâs not real love anyways. I believe love comes from within yourself, and thereâs also friendship and family love.
I don't care if people didn't make it to that point. The only worthwhile time to live is when you're young.
@@user-vx3wc8yc9v I guess thatâs true if you have no substance and derive all of your worth from sources outside of yourself.
I love nature, books, and being active. As long as my body is working, Iâm happy.
I recently turned 29 and looking back at pictures of myself at 24-25, it's like I almost wish to have my old self back. In a way, I do, but with everything I've been through and everything I've learned there's a reason why I aged the way that I did.
I've got grey hair now, a wrinkle on my forehead, and my body feels all the crap I've been through in the last 4 years. I've gone through grief, loss, giving birth, hardships, a pandemic...it's crazy to even expect my face or body to stay the same as that 24 year old non-functioning adult child with zero responsibility.
Do I miss my old life and self? Sure. But I have things, people, and knowledge in my life that I only prayed for back when I was 24-25. I'm tired of always feeling incompetent at every stage of my life.
I'm a mom now that gave birth during the pandemic. I've gained 100lbs in 2.5 years and have so far dropped 43lbs in 1.5 years. My style changed. My skin changed. Everything changes and matures and I feel like we should just take care of our bodies in each current state and age.
Thanks to my mom and grand mother as examples during my youth I was never worried about getting older. These ladies showed so much confidence in themselves and how they looked, it always inspired me to just do and wear whatever I liked âșïž Their confidence always made them look cool and beautiful to me. Both were always very much also in the camp of «aging is a gift denied to many» and would always enthusiastically celebrate their birthday and would loudly announce their age đ„ł Showing me and my siblings that getting older was something to be celebrated, not feared. Now I am nearly 40 and I must say I have never felt so confident in my own skin, style and looks đ Quite liberating actually.
This is beautiful â€
Also, the way sunscreen is pushed so hard so suddenly is really interesting to me. Sunscreen is great at protecting your skin, keeping you safe from skin cancer, and preventing pre-existing damage from getting worse. But I feel like the main reason sunscreen is touted as being so important now, is because it can slow down you getting wrinkles. newsflash, wrinkles are not ugly, and aging is beautiful! I just hate the shame-y way people use sunscreen in social media.
Why would I want to risk cancer and to tan my skin like literal leather? "shame-y" no one is allowed to have opinions any more, there is no good or evil, no truths. Everything matters so in essence nothing matters. Highly recommend reading Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron.
I think itâs good that itâs being pushed so hard, people need to know how important it is to wear SPF for prevention. It absolutely _should_ be a part of everyones daily routine.
THIS. i'll put on some sunscreen in the morning, and put on more if i'm doing outdoor activities, but i'm not going to obsessively slather myself in sunscreen every hour to prevent... looking human??... later in life. and i won't be shamed for that. i don't have the energy to obsess over skincare like so many people say one should. not to mention half the common, cheap sunscreen ingredients break my skin out anyways. đ
Agreed. I feel like it's super important to prevent cancer but the focus always seems like it's to prevent you from looking old.
I think the main reason is that many skincare products contain some from of chemical exfoliators in them (even if the product itself isn't labelled as such) so SPF is a must unless your goal is to have unexpected burns.
As someone who is disabled and has already lost my immediate family I am TERRIFED of getting older. I am in my early 30s now and I'm so scared about what my already breaking body will do to me in the future and how I will handle that. I found a grey hair recently and it made me surprisingly emotional. Not because I care about my hair but because it was a reminder I am aging and its coming faster than I realize.
Ya I know, I felt melancholic.
i feel similarly and i havent even hit 18 yet
It happened to me. At 30 I found out over coffee with my friends that ALL OF THEM get regular procedures, incl my coworkers! I was so shocked and they'd just assumed I had too as "everyone does it". I fully support them but I'm shocked that all those early 30s girls got work when I never even considered it! Now I started questioning myself if I should look younger or if I look older than them, while at the same time trying to tell myself "who cares!? I'm allowed to look my age"
It's such a catch 22 because I always felt like when I looked young, no one took me seriously but now that I'm getting older, I'm panicking. Like wtf, you're totally right that there shouldn't be anything wrong with looking you're age.
As someone who worked in the skincare clinical industry its annoying to see celebrities promote gimmicky products that can make your concerns worse
Edit: Something the public doesn't realize is that these big brands we see that are supposedly "trustworthy" pay dermatologists and doctors to say their products are good (you would be shocked at what brands do this). Thankfully I'm in a position where I can say no to things like that but essentially it's still based on influencer marketing. What I do is-as any person in dermatology should- do a deep thorough dive on brands. Not a quick Google search, but a deep dive into how the brand operates.
I'm personally a fan of the brands Versed, Biotherm and Bioderma. Although Neutrogena is good, here's a hint; they use the tactics listed above. If any of these appeal to your interest, please do your own research on it to verify what I'm saying (also if you find they actually use "dermatologist influencer" tactics please reply and let me know, just because I haven't seen anything negative doesn't mean there's not something there.)
And for those if you who are actually interested in keeping the integrity of the skin and preventing damage for longer; use a sunscreen. Vitamin C and Retinol(vitamin a). Use a moisturizer. Wash your face once a day, preferably at night, preferably with a gentle cleanser. And check with a dermatologist to see if this type of routine is right for you.
Bottom line because I rambled a lot; aging is a natural part of life that a lot of people don't get to live through. Celebrities are using procedures of which most of us never even have access to. Do your own research and stop buying into this sudden trend of using olive oil, over-priced seaweed or any kardashian line on your skin. Your skin and bank will thank you.
Spill the tea âïž
EDIT - If you can. Iâd like to think that most people who worked in such industries have to sign an NDA.
Itâs mentioned in the video that Tretinoin can worsen skin but Iâve heard that Tret is the most effective form of Retinol for wrinkles. Whatâre your thoughts?
@@josephine862 Any skin product can worsen your skin, that is why tretinoin is prescribed and why for any skin product, one should do a spot test and stop using the product if it worsens your skin.
How do you feel about The Ordinary? Itâs both very affordable, and pretty well available here in Finland, so as I'm starting to use vitamin c and retinol like you mentioned, thatâs the brand I'm looking at. So far I've been just using a CeraVe cleanser and moisturiser, haha
@@josephine862 tretinoin should only be used if prescribed by a dermatologist. Some regions don't require a prescription but I would certainly say it's not something to play around with. It's a last resort for certain skin diseases and should nt be used lightly. Of course, this is my own opinion, so take it woth a grain of salt.
Thank you for bringing up "same face" phenomenon. I have taken quite a few live figure drawing classes and I get SO BORED with smooth skin, typical features, round and symmetrical limbs. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE if you have wrinkles, folds, asymmetry, or anything unconventional in your features VOLUNTEER AS A MODEL IN A LOCAL STUDIO CLASS!!! You will make artists so happy to work with different bodies. Confidence is great and all, but often confidence in beauty stems from falling within pretty privilege. "Beauty" begins to feel so narrow and limiting after you draw your fourth young, slim, "draw me like one of your french girls" model.
Literally on instagram, when youâre not looking at the artistic side full of conventional beautiful women, all the influencers look kind of same-y. And this in turn influences artists because they have to try to keep up with instagram so theyâre on a lot and just keep perpetuating the cycle.
THIS! My favorite models in art school were both in their sixties, and one had very flat, low hanging breasts and a belly pouch, and drawing her was just marvelous. Such interesting and graceful lines and twists that arenât visible on a skinny 21 year old.
Same! We had an older model from Disney once and she was absolutely gorgeous, like a real life middle aged Pocahontas.
My life drawing class in the late 1979s had a model who was pregnant. It was so cool and enlightening to watch her body change over the months. The class gave her a baby shower at the end of the semester. Aging models are also really interesting because faces and bodies change in such unique ways.
Honestly, this is why Iâve become interested in watching older movies (like 1960s-80s). Movie stars had real looking skin and had interesting facial features.
"giving everyone a little bit of grace with how they are handling societal constructs" Beautifully stated â€
The more I age the happier I am. When I look back at my younger self I cringe. I have learned so much and continue to grow in life and that is beautiful.
Apparently thats healthy to cringne at ur younger self because it means youve grown a lot so good for you
Thank you for the subtitles, Mina. Itâs not only helpful for the hearing impaired, but also for viewers watching this video while taking a dump in the libraryâs public toilet
I did not realize that.
LOL
I work for Medicare and boy howdy does the thought of not being supported when Iâm older stress me out. Like beauty aside, you hit the nail on the head when you said so many elderly people need much more help then theyâre currently getting. Call your grandma and say hi to your elderly neighbor, anything. Iâm on my knees begging you to interact with the elderly in any positive way, it can make so much of a difference to them AND the way you feel about aging
As women of color my mom, grand moms and aunts got old without fighting it. They were/are amazing women who loved and were loved regardless of age, body sags, fat, grey hair or wrinkles. My mom wore makeup 5-10x a year. I feel lucky that I had a âage happensâ mother as a role model. Iâm not immune to marketing and societal pressures but Iâm so grateful I get to age.
the student old people cohabitation thing is a very good concept. I just imagine a student coming home like "Margaret you're not gonna believe this shit"
As Naomi Wolf puts it in 'The Beauty Myth': age is experience, experience is knowledge, and knowledge is power. And that's the one thing society doesn't want women to have. I always keep that in the back of my mind ;)
When my mom was approaching the end of her 30s, she started talking more about how she just hoped she could pass the age that her mom was when she had died (39 years old). I was only 18 or so at that time, but it resonated with me. It still does even more now that Iâm officially in my mid-20s. Aging is natural and not everyone has the honor of experiencing it.
I was about twenty-seven or eight talking with a girlfriend over at her house. Talking about general observations of life, ''now that we were older.'' my friend's mother had just stop by to say ''hi'' and heard us talking. Her mother was about forty-eight at the time. She joined the conversation, by telling us, wait till you become ''invisible'' that's how you know your old. When you start to show signs of aging. Men stop noticing, seeing you. That's how a woman becomes ''invisible.'' so she better have developed self-confidence and an active life before she totally disappears.
I have dark hair and started getting white strands from the top of my head in my mid-twenties. It shocked me at first, but I remembered my mom dying her hair for decades to hide her transitioning hair. It was a hassle for her, every month, and the end result was really damaged hair.
So, I'm deciding not to dye or temporarily hide these strands.
As many mentioned in the comments, I fear people labeling me as I "let myself go" when I'm just enjoying my ever-changing life! I will continue to embrace my hair and hope this inspires others that it's not something you should feel like hiding.
To everyone, best of luck out there!
I have had white hair since I was 10-11 years old. Now I am 21. The first thing my mother said to me was "No, you are too young. It's how the sun light reflexes on your hair" and how she was disappointed when I clearly said I would never dye myself. I realize it can be difficult for other people but I have always found my hair so beautiful even in their aging process.
You go girl!
First, I started colouring my hair at the first signs of grey. Then, seeing the damage to my hair, I chopped it all off and let it grow as it is.
Your hair is going to look so cool!
The way I called in sick from work and stayed home from school to sob when I got my first silver hair at 19 đ My teenage brain had me convinced I was an aging hag with not much time left. Although not much time has passed between then, Iâm in my twenties now and cannot wait for my hair to turn full on silver, or at the very least heavily pepper. Aging is beautiful. Iâm only sorry it took my prefrontal cortex developing to realize it. But hey, another benefit of aging!
19 grey hair?!? You lucky! đđđđ I want the full silver look cause it looks angelic but I guess I donât have the genes for it since Iâm older but no greys yet đ€š
"Iâm only sorry it took my prefrontal cortex developing to realize it."
Why do I want to laugh at this????
I got my first white hair at 16, a lot of people in my family go grey young. I've gotten more since then and I honestly like the contrast. My hair is really black and the texture of white hairs make them look like tinsel imo
I see my grey hair and go, yea that's good character design
GirlâŠâŠ.thatâs nothing. I got my 1st gray hair at 13
We need to bring more awareness to this problem. Anytime youâre ageist, youâre being ageist towards your future self too
Very well said.đđ»
Thanks this people think they will never age lol
As an esthetician I struggle with this topic almost every day đ I try to approach my clients with what THEY want to focus on and to keep the integrity of their skin in mind but a lot of my clients come in already insecure đą I feel like Iâm leaving a good impact tho bc I try to remind them that skin is alive and an organ and to worry more about cancer prevention and simplifying their routines towards anti inflammation and protection
As an immune compromised person who still mostly isolates, I really appreciate when Creators still acknowledge the pandemic still rolls along around the world. Thanks.
Its always sad that people think that once women reach a certain age they are less desire able, that aging is evil and if you look older than 30, you are unattractive.
I just turned 30 a few days ago and my existential crisis is real. Do I even matter in society if Iâm not in my 20âs. Society has done a number on how I personally view aging so thanks for talking about this.
As someone who is 28, I feel you. I am actually excited to move away from my 20s - but I feel similarly thereâs no place in the world for me when I grow older
I recently turned 30 too, but even if society deems me unworthy for whatever reason, I won't really care and continue to try and be happy within my own little world. Life is so absurd, I won't make it worse by attributing importance to what randoms think of me.
Wow this is crazy . What have they done, when i was in my 30âs i felt and looked as young and better than i was in 20âs. Actually all the way, to 46 , i felt great . Now i turned 52 no i dont look 52 but i dont look 30 ether. So mentally its hard to digest that, especially you feel as young and your body still the same, but some changes, in the face, makes you feel strange. Like how do i dress do i look like i am trying too hard, its just un explainable feeling đłđ€Șđ
Just turned 31 and I feel you
I just don't tell people my age or tell them I'm not old enough to order from the senior menu at Denny's.
As someone who has lost a lot of friends at a young age, I can tell you that aging is a privilege.
Iâm 13 and terrified of the world Iâll grow up in, the world Iâm already grow up in. About a year ago I went through this whole working out, limiting food, sucking in belly phase and I remember considering plastic surgery and wanting a boob job. I was like 11-12. The thought is so so scary, that this is the world that we live in where small children centre their lives around looking different to fit unachievable beauty standards, itâs so so sick. Iâm 13 years old and already feel like I shouldâve done something with my life. Youth ends at 20, 30 is when the time to stop having fun and have everything worked out, your life is about your partner or your kids and after 40 your life is basically over so you better have done everything. I really really hope to see things change or at least to have more people talk about this, make it a well known discussion because Iâm so scared of how the world will develop, the pressures everyone will be under. Sorry for the word vomit, take care of yourselves â€ïžâ€ïž
Oh sweetheart. The only things you should've done with your life at 13 is to learn a lot and have fun. There is so much more to life after 40! Plenty of people open businesses, travel, start creative pursuits, and much more into their seniority. I don't think I was genuinely happy from 12-24 years old, but I promise it gets easier.
It's hard, and at almost 30, I still feel this type of pressure, but what's nice about aging is caring LESS about this stuff as you get older because you realize that all those things really don't matter.
@@abbysc417 That's really sweet of you and thank you for caring enough to type a reply. I appreciate it!
â@@Sarah-zl2fr Tysm, I hope you're doing well and the pressure's only getting less
Just wait til you turn 30, it is truly liberating. I was miserable through my teens and 20s, full of self doubt, not realising how lucky I truly was to have a healthy, pain-free body. When you gain the perspective that comes with simply having spent more time on this earth, you realise how little the surface-level stuff matters. My advice is to take the long view and just enjoy your life, none of us get out of this alive after all!
the anti-aging thing honestly bleeds into my every day life in a way that goes past beauty. I'm 19, in the college of my dreams studying something I love, have average grades, and still feel deeply anxious and suicidal because I feel like I'm wasting my youth. It's like I'm late to everything. I'm not pretty enough like how other people on socmed look after they turned 17 or 18. I feel like I'm a year or a semester too late from joining college organizations (a really essential part of the experience in my country). Sometimes I just have to slap myself back to reality and being reminded that I'm still fucking 19 :/
I'm 19 and I feel the same way!! I think this topic is worth a different essay because feeling like wasting time is so common among our peers. Almost like you have a huge deadline that is approaching. And sometimes I feel like this pressure is so unfair because please... I'm a literal child...
I hope you can see how odd all of this sounds when itâs written out. Thereâs absolutely no logical reason you should be spending time thinking about having fallen behind at your age. You should find a professional to talk to and get out of this delusional world your generation has created yourselves and then imprisoned yourselves into. This does not make sense and is not the kind of focus you should be having at this time in your life. Sorry Iâm not mincing my words.. I donât need to be your psychiatrist to see these thoughts are not healthy or optimal but another professional who can get to know you and help you get out of these erroneous thought patterns I think would be helpful.
The world is heading in such a direction that your generation is going to get very serious very fast. More serious than any of us had to because we are heading somewhere unprecedented in existing human lifetime. You will not have the luxury to worry about wrinkles very soon. This would be another reason I would take addressing my mental health seriously.
I went to college later on in life (late twenties) and still learning to not judge myself so harshly against other people. Quite a few people I've talk to over the years felt like they couldn't keep up with their peers on these expectations we're all conditioned to meet. But good luck on your studies
I feel this, and this is how I felt at 19 and still how I feel at 29 to some degree, there's still time, we're still alive, we've still got time.
@@1chienandalou I know it's weird and illogical lol. And I know that what I'm doing isn't healthy. If I didn't, then I wouldn't type my comment ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
Looking for professional help is difficult because of my family's opinion about it, which is ironic since I'm a Psych major. And I'm not "worrying about wrinkles", I'm worrying about how I've fallen behind my peers mainly in terms of joining things like campus org, which, as I've said, is an essential college experience in my country. And when it comes to appearance, I've been dealing with bullying since I was in elementary school so it fucked up my perception of my body in general, so I guess it's less about aging and more about how I'm just very unhappy with it
I appreciate your concern but I know my own problems, thank you :)
iâm unbelievably early and god am i glad that minaâs talking about this !!! i canât believe 30âs the new 50 when itâs basically just the age where you start to get your life together lmao
Iâm 61 and I love being older! Itâs not about looks itâs about confidence!
I will never forget my friend who chose to congratulate me for getting married under 30. I was literally wtf. I got married because I was close to finishing my degree, my then fiance was finishing his postdoc and it just was a right time. Me turning 30 the following year had nothing to do with it... eh, those fake milestones we set for ourselves. Just because we have ten fingers we decided that each time the Earth orbits the sun 10 times something must change...
Thank you for talking about the price, for once!! The financial burden of beauty is not talked about enough. I personally have spent an unfathomable amount of money on makeup, nails, skincare, haircuts, hair colour, botox, filler etc. And I'm pretty low key looking. It is so inflated.
The best skin care is avoidance of effing up your skin- its he most boring and most obvious but the best . Celebrities spend $1000s of skin care as they spend $10.000 messing it up. As a non hedonistic poor human - I have never had the money or time to mess up my skin like a celebrity. I cant sun my self on the beach for 6 months, party indefinitley , have a drug or drink habit and afford rehab. I have to go to bed early and get up for work and answer to bosses who will fire me for slip ups. Celebrities do indeed look good but that is the whole head to toe package - their actually skin is horrendous and not youthful at all. And there is no surgery that can reset skin only patch it up.
@@MsMrReason no but really drugs/drink make people age SO MUCH it's willlld.
That reminds me how much of a shopaholic I am in regards to makeup,hair,nails,skin care and fashion to keep up with this insane sky high beauty standards I have wasted so much money on beauty stuff I can't even explain and yes am among the low key types my god!!!!!
Hi, I am a fan of yours from the Netherlands! Loneliness is quite a big issue in the Netherlands among elderly, as we are a highly individualistic country, with the focus on a goverment who needs to take care of us, instead of family and surroundings. Through creative ways we try to combat this. I know through someone who lives in one of these elderly/students mixed houses, it is a very nice project in my opinion.
I donât know if itâs because Iâm still young(27), but Iâve never feared getting older. I donât think older women look âbad.â Iâve always thought aging was beautiful. My mom turns 60 next year, and though she has wrinkles and âlooks her age,â sheâs still beautiful to me, as is my grandma. I have SEVERE body dysmorphia, though. I hate how I look. So maybe once I get older Iâll obsess over it, like I obsess over my body and weight and the large pores on my face and the widening bald spot on my scalp and my nose that I hate more and more every day. Iâm working on loving myself, but itâs so hard. Iâve struggled my entire life. I just hope once Iâm older Iâll feel more confident in myself. I canât wait to be past my 20âs, honestly.
I used to have body dysmorphia and an eating disorder, and what helped me was realising that my image of myself is NOT MYSELF. My image of myself is just an image. My real self is my consciousness that is looking outward from my eyes. Focusing on outward facing experience made me way happier. I am not my imagination of myself (based on my name, my picture, videos, mirror images). That's how I imagine others see me. But that isn't even accurate and besides it doesn't tie into my inner experience of consciousness. I was living as if I was in third person perspective and that was the cause of my dysmorphia. But we don't live in third person. You live in first person. Self love isn't loving your image. It is loving the experience of life itself.
I'm 31 and feel similar. I had no issues turning 30 and I'm only a little upset that an inch of my hair turned grey. Mostly because I like my hair color and I'm not interested in dying it.
I just had a grandparent pass away (My 1st time losing a grandparent) and this video touched me in an unexpected way. She was the last of the grandparents anyone expected to pass away first because despite pushing 80 she was hardly senile. And in the last 5yrs or so I hear more and more that I look like her. I didn't as much when I was little. It really came out later. I would love to age like her and what I mean is, I want to inherit all of it. The wisdom and the wrinkles. And I wish there was a program like what they have in the Netherlands for my grandpa. I'm seeing him as often as I can but it's not an easy task. I'd love if there was another person on board who lived directly where he is.
This is a really good topic that needs more open discussion. Aging can be beautiful. Why is it that in so many movies older men, with wrinkles, grey hair are portrayed in such a more positive light than women? We could learn a lot from cultures that highly respect the older motherly figure in their family.
"Giving everyone a little bit of grace for how they deal with social constructs" I think is a very important message that can be applied to so many things.
Thank you! I've always been bothered by the "unproblematic people age better". I know some people will mean it as a joke but others definitely believe it to be true and it's just more punishment for those who don't age according to our already unrealistic and unfair beauty standards.
I was discussing with my crush about how older people are more attractive. He then told me that only applied to man. Older woman is no longer considered hot. That stuck to me and made me so afraid of aging.
that guy does sounds awfully superficial and like he is not worth your time and worries tbh
your crush is an idiot and should instead become blocked in your phone.
@YesI SaidIt Iâm trying to move on from the situationship since He got a girlfriend now hhahaha
@@hyunrahan5265 i feel sorry for his gf.
@@felmargego2534 yeah but the only good thing about him is that he like to give gifts đ
Now I wonât have expensive presents anymore
âHer neck was smooth as a rose, with eyes blue⊠as a roseâ
I used to work at an opthomology clinic which had patients of all ages and financial backgrounds. Ive always struggled to identify age in people and what I realized in working that job is I generally could tell how much younger or older someone would look than their age based on how good their insurance was. I think its already a class divide. There's already a very obvious visual beauty difference that even not on a superficial level has so much to do with ones ability to maintain health - and in doing so one can maintain youthful appearances even before having cosmetic procedures. The luxury of sleep, proper nutrition, time to exercise or a job that's not manual labour will make you look younger.
Not to mention having access to dental care and orthodontics.
I actually am currently working in one off those Dutch eldery care programs! Its called âVooruitâ which translates to âForwardâ. We get a âfreeâ appartement, for 10 hours off community service. Which include, cleaning streets with children. Giving cooking classes to children. But also coffeemornings with lonely elders. Cooking for elders. Its very valued, to both parties.
Retinols and tretinoins are actually proven collagen boosters. Which helps skin firmnessâŠmaking a person look âyoungerâ. Theyâre not aging irritants as you stated in the end.
i was going to point this out as well
I like how you specified "victorian" cherubs, because biblical cherubs are actually terrifying
Iâd buy a face cream that would give me a million omnipotent eyes
As someone who works in the gerontology field, literally the study of healthy aging, you did a wonderful job briefing on the issues of ageism and body image. Thank you so much for touching on ways we can fight against the stigma as well.
You know in the reverse. I am 28 and I often get mistaken for being either a teenager or early 20s especially if I am not wearing make-up and I know many of my friends in our late 20s and early 30s who keep getting mistaken for late teens or younger adults. When I say I'm 28 theres always this shock that comes after like OMG I would have never thought. None of my direct circle have any procedures. This is just what people in and around their 30s look like. Like what did you expect? That by the time we are 30 we should shrivel up into nothingness? The expectation that someone in their late 20s or 30s should look old is so strange to me.
Haha im 29 and a girl made me spell out my ID cuz she thought it was fake. I also have had ppl think i looked early 20âs and couldnt believe I was almost 30. They asked me what I do I said retinol⊠but like jesus should I be in the grave at 30? So weird but funny to me.
Yep, always the "never would have guessed you were thaaaaat old"-reaction, as if they are giving me a compliment... what is wrong about looking your age? I never know how to react. They expect a thank you, but actually I feel insulted đ
I've had a 19 y.o. telling me (23 y.o.) that "I look good for my age". Like what are we even talking about...
@@TheMilla3690 OMG what ? đ„ČđŹ
@@TheMilla3690 ... đwhen I was 22 and a student, a 28 year old student, actually told me: wow, and I thought you were one of the young students... so weird xD He should have know better, but age doesn't make you wiser automaticallyđ