Came here to say this - the light the mini emergency braked for was the repeater on the other side of the junction and they did not need to stop for it. However, if the mini had been braking for an actual emergency the following vehicle should have been able to stop in the reaction and braking distance they should have left between them.
Cam car travelling far too close for the speed, less than 1 second separation. Cam car is 100% at fault. No fault on the mini even if it could have made it thru the lights.
regardless of weather or not they should have stopped, the Highway Code states you should follow at a safe distance to be able to stop, just in case of this exact scenario. This person was clearly distracted as you can even see in the video how long it took them to react. So clearly they are at fault 🤦🏽♂️😂
It looks like the lights has just changed to the amber stop light at the start of the video rerun at 02:52. The cammer takes 2 seconds (02:54) to reach the final stop line with no attempt to stop. A further 1 second for the red to appear. A light change is not a normal "emergency" brake as it is expected that a traffic light showing green will change at some stage to amber - the longercthexgreen has shown, the more likely the light will shortly change. Therefore the cammer should have been expecting the change and adjusted its approach with the intention to stop but aiming to go if the green light still shows and the way is clear, particularly as it is a box junction. The cammer is 100% at fault for failing to stop before the box; I suspect it was trying to rush and get through the lights regardless.. However, the action by the preceding car was not 100% safe either. I suspect that the driver saw the amber go red and failed to realise that it was a repeater for the stop line the other side of the junction. Its lack of care and attention over this, along with being unaware of what was going on behind it was contributory to the crash. I doubt that the preceding car did an emergency stop for an idiot trying to achieve a Darwin Award. It either, or both drivers driven properly then this crash would nit have happened. This is also an old clip. In other clips, a driver so stopping (seeing the repeater but no actual stop line) has caused an unnecessary obstruction to vehicles wanting to continue through their green.
50:18 🤦🏻YOU DONT STOP 🛑 TO LET HIM IN THE ROAD WHILE DRIVING IN THE OUTSIDE FAST LANE” YOU NUMPTY. YON NEVER STOP ON A MOTORWAY FOR ANY REASON! JUST KEEP GOING NOT YOUR PROBLEM.🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
1:55 this is not the case at all, an insurer wouldn't find the car pulling out to be at fault as the other car was likely doing more than double the speed limit here. You can't be expected to assume cars will be driving at that speed
> You can't be expected to assume cars will be driving at that speed You're not supposed to assume anything on the road, the driver should have seen them and calculated their speed. I don't think it would have been a 50/50 settlement because of the seed I agree with that that though.
It comes down to 3 scenarios. You didn't look, and pulled out into their path. You looked, but didn't look long enough to see how fast they were approaching, and pulled out into their path You looked, seen how fast they were approaching, and pulled out into their path. All 3 are negligent.
@@anonymousinternetuser7519 I had a friend who died in a crash in which they were driving 110+ mph on a motorway, but were hit by somebody switching lane too late. The other person was found to be 100% cleared of wrongdoing despite clearly not calculating the relative speeds. And that's a scenario in which someone died.
Not true, ite the resposibility of the car pulling out to make sure its safe to do so, you have no assumed priority even if the other vehicle is speeding.
Never ceases to amaze me how people who have had a minor bump and whose vehicles are still drivable make no effort to get off the road and cause even more danger
Number 31... this would be a good claim, even though you were turning left, doesn't mean you only look to your right before entering the road. You should always always make it a habit of looking both ways, the amount of emergency vehicles and cars that have broken down forcing the cars to come around it in the lane your entering happens. You shouldn't always assume that lane is clear
2:56 I have seen this unwarranted respect for a red light many times. We all need to be aware of where of where the stop-line is, and not presume that the other driver knows where the stop line is.Furthermore, the far side of the yellow box looks a bit like a stop-line.
#31 (18:01) Similar thing happened to a work colleague of mine years ago. Yes the overtaking car is in the wrong for overtaking at a junction, however cam car is the one joining the road and, as happened to my colleague, would be found 100% at fault. You're supposed to look right, look left, then look right again before joining a road like this.
As always there’s rules for everyone in the HWC, often directing each user to avoid hazards. The car overtaking to not do so near junctions. But the cammer cannot join a new road unless it is clear to do so - cars could be passing a parked car (yet another rule) etc etc and so must look both ways and proceed once clear. Entitled. Oblivious. Ignorant to the rules. Take your pick.
He is not in the wrong by overtaking at this junction as there are no solid lines on the road indicating not to. The dash cam guy was fully in the wrong and overtaking guy, perhaps not the best location but totally in his rights.
@@PanPuchacki Highway Code Rule 167 - DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road.
2:50 I live up the road from here, the mini should not of stop at light, it is a repeater light from the lights other side of junction, saying that cammer car was to close or would not of hit him
#27. Know this road very well. It’s a lane between Partington and either the crematorium or Altrincham. You can’t just back up as its quite a distance between the start and finish of this lane, and there are no passing places either. You do have to creep pass each other. In fact, I avoid this road entirely, and use a different route.
That’s not a place where you stop the amount of comments on here that don’t understand this is shocking. It’s a repeater light for the stop line BEFORE the yellow box if the mini stopped there then the whole junction would be blocked
At 3 minutes you said the mini was in the wrong, for braking, when lights were on amber. An a pedestrian was about to cross. What highway code you read??
3:00 You do realise that the mini stopped in the middle of a junction? He/she was looking at the red light on the far side of the junction and decided to stop there, blocking the junction. Should never have stopped. Should have continued and cleared the junction.
not only that, if the mini DID keep going there was no way the cammer was going to be able to stop in time for the light , considering they should have already been braking for the light changing
Watching it again you’re right. Although the lights were so stupid there. The yellow box literally ends and there is space for you to stop and you would think that you have to since someone is crossing there
@@MrTVx99 They are only crossing because the idiot stopped where they shouldn't. The pedestrian light is on red the whole time meaning the opposing lights were green and they were blocking the junction.
@@colint4772 neither of them should have stopped at that light. The light to stop at was before the junction. That light is at the far side of the junction. You don't stop there.
2:47 don’t justify the mini stopping, it was the other side of the junction where it would have been subjected to stop for the red light, but it had already passed that point when the light was green, showing they just had a complete lack of awareness
Can someone please tell me what it is with Audi and BMW drivers? Is that there is a certain type of entitled driver that buys them? It's mainly the smaller ones ( A1, A3, A5, 1 series, 2 series, 3 series - in other words, I can't afford a real one"). The A class Mercs are getting the same way..... The Honda Jazz and Suzuki drivers will also cause hassle, but through timidity, not aggression
#77 that driver had two perfectly good door mirrors and the cammers car was far away back from it to be visible. That was pure "crash for cash!" Change my mind.
#111 is round the corner from where I live there's been so many of these and accidents here, that there now putting in a roundabout there. What thd video doesn't show is there is a McDonalds and hotel opposite all on a road where some cars speed along.
Noticed that myself, the back wheels locking up seems odd at first but it's probably a burst air line. Trucks like that have air brakes that are held open by air pressure and automatically lock up when there is no air pressure so a burst line can cause them to do that
#7 (2:46) you're saying in your opinion 'the mini should have gone'. You seem to be under the same delusion the mini driver is. That light is not for that location. The stop line is before the box junction. The mini should have continued. Cam car was following too closely and thus was unable to stop in time, as well as not waiting until their exit from the box junction was clear. Bad all round, mini driver, cam car, and uploader (or whoever wrote the 'should have gone' comment).
I know you have a lot of narrow streets in the UK, but I was just wondering if incidents might decrease if everyone had to park in the direction the traffic is heading? It's illegal here in Australia to park on the opposite side of the road.
And given the narrowness of so many streets it might also help by routinely restricting parking to one side only. Residents would doubtless be up in arms but without off-street parking that's the risk you take when buying a car, or a second car.
03:05 The mini was TOTALLY wrong - no question. They stopped at the repeater (additional) light for that direction, mistaking it for a pedestrian crossing. There is a pedestrian phase, but this is clearly at red and the old fella did not move. The car that hit the mini should have been a bit further back, but a random stop like this is very hard to deal with.
But the cammer should have expected the lights to turn amber and so be able to stop in the 2 seconds before it reached to box and 3 seconds before the red showed.
@@hausmaster9801 no, I was referring to the cammer who had yet to pass the stop line, and so expecting _[sic]_ the lights to change would have been preparing to possibly need to stop, and so would not have been in a position to hit the mini stopping at the repeater lights (which have no stop line). It was this failure by the cammer to anticipate that the green light will turn into an amber stop light at some time which led it to rushing through the junction (racing the red light), and so not being in a position to react to the actual unexpected event of the mini stopping at the repeated light. The mini shouldn't have stopped, but the cammer shouldn't have hit a a stationary object. I wonder what everyone's reaction would have been if the mini had stopped there because a small child, unseen by the cammer/camera, had rushed towards the road and the mini driver did an emergency stop to avoid the possibility of hitting it...
I’m unsure but number 14 by driving closer seemed to make the issue worse rather than backing off even at the roundabout with a pedestrian in the middle
3:04 if the traffic lights are at amber be prepared to stop, says in the highway code, also the fact is he went through the first set of amber traffic lights without slowing and hit the car in front
The first and second set of lights are for the same point in the junction, which was next to the first set of lights, they should in no way stop where the mini stopped unless something is obstructing the road or another equally dangerous scenario
the mini at 3:00 was across the stop line well before it turned red so should have continued, but there is never any excuse for a rear shunt if you can not stop safely in any emergency you are too close
Based on the timings of the video I am pretty sure the amber light had appeared just before the rerun at 02:52. However it is 2 seconds if video before the cammer crosses the stop line before the box, so there was plenty of time to stop as it would have been expecting the green to change to amber.
#7 at 2:46 clearly shows on amber before mini gets there. And 2:47 on red , still before the mini gets there. The mini's brake lights are working. IMO the caption " the mini should have gone" total BS. And how do you know he/she panicked ?? you have no idea of the state of mind of the driver. They didn't slam on, they braked progressively. The cammer totally at fault for 1. rear ending the mini, 2. Not reading the road with several idiot proof visuals such as a set of lights going from green/amber/red, 3. Its a crossing with someone waiting..how many more clues does the cammer need ?? probably on his bloody phone.
2:52 #7 The replay clearly shows the mini going through the first of lights on amber because they were probably too afraid to stop because there was a bell end of a cammer racing up behind trying to jump the lights. The next set of lights wasn't for them so they are both at fault for the accident but for different reasons.
he's almost certainly walking on the wrong side of the road, look at his legs. Unless his knees bend the wrong way hes walking away from the cammer. You can also just about make out him turning his head to see the cam car.
#1. Just remember that lorry drivers are not always to blame. They do have blind spots. Also, not all lorries have cameras fitted all around the lorry so the drivers can see, also doing this takes his eyes off the road more often than not
That van not stopping at the zebra crossing for the child to cross, what a complete tool (would swear but not appropriate with the amount of words I would call him).
The car driver was FAR worse though and made the situation much more dangerous for everyone. I have no idea why she thought that clip was something where people would side with her!
Disagree re the incident at 1:55. The cammer was turning off (seen at 2:00) and, assuming he was indicating such, the vehicle would have judged it safe to pull out. 17:30 - uninsured car so he drives dangerously and in the event of an accident the victim is even worse off. 18:02 no signs to say no overtaking on the road being joined? Cammer didn't observe both ways fully - just the lane they were joining? Was Mustang indicating when overtake started? Agree that RR shouldn't have overtaken though. 21:50 , not what it seems . LH lane is left turn only to A470, RH lane A470 or straight on. Purple car clearly in the wrong lane. 25:10 locked rear tyres can clearly be seen, mechanical failure on the air system. Driver must have been shocked!
Can't understand your conclusion at 3 minutes. The mini was stopped and the cammer's car crashed into the back when the lights were at red and there was a pedestrian waiting to cross. Cammer was negligent at best
@1:34. Nope. The car that pulled out was not at fault necessarily. One could assume that he/she had looked right, assessed the speed of the obviously larger and slower vehicle, which would well have obscured the overtaking and speeding car, then looked left and pulled out on that assessment. I repeat, the car that overtook would likely not be visible to the car that pulled out, as they appeared from behind a slower larger vehicle. So contrary to the opinion of the cammer; the car that pulled out was not at fault. Though I will concede; a little more observation, such as looking twice, would most likely have helped. However both drivers managed to react in time. That could have been nasty.
4:57 absolutely nothing the driver on snow and ice could have done about that?! Firstly, they could have prepared their car for the winter by buying decent winter tyres - or all-seasons if they didn’t want to swap tyres every spring and autumn. They were clearly on summer tyres which are the wrong choice for those conditions. The latest Michelin CrossClimate 2 is the only tyre you need for anything the U.K. weather can thrown at you whatever the season. Secondly - as you then go on to say - even with the correct rubber on they should have been travelling at perhaps half the speed they were. Sometimes your comments are best left in you head.
#94, yes the Range Rover driver is terrible - but by their own admission, clearly lost - hooting won't help. They also didn't "block the road", they turned right. Lastly how close was the cammer to the cyclist at the end of the clip at 46:22 ?
@@anonymousinternetuser7519 E Rule 167 DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
@@georgebarnes8163 what if there was a broken down or parked car. You writing lullabys here. The cammer was fully at fault. Junctions where you can't overtake are clearly marked with continuous lines. Here it was fully legal to overtake.
51:33 you can clearly see the golf has lost control and crashed into the shop and with his stupid story 2 people got into a taxi and sped off! Yep and the taxi driver has just picked them up after setting fire to a car. And the taxi was waiting for them too” Omg what crap!🤐sure they did” and broken the land speed record to be instantly gone!🥱what a crock of shite. Clearly he’s lying! Say Anything to clear himself not to be the driver who’s obviously got no insurance or licence. If the police listen to that one there stupid!
2:46 #7 what was that mini thinking, I first thought the cammer was in the wrong but looking again that mini was already past the stopline for that red light and the yellow box he stopped in aswel was unexpected, but at the end of the day the cammer still should of paid more attention and left more of a gap between them for the collision not to happen
18:15 the only claim would be against recording driver for not paying attention. Many people would think that overtaking car was in the wrong but no, if you join the road you got responsibility to check both sides. He could legally overtake in that spot and the dashcam guy would have to pay out.
The highway code clearly states 'DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users, when approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road' Legally this is enforced by the Road Traffic Act 1988
1:56 It DOES matter how fast the Golf was going. When the car that was pulling out checked to their right, the road may well have been clear (when I say clear, I mean up to the cammers vehicle obviously). They had every right to expect the cammer and the following vehicles to maintain their speed, so they would have had ample time to pull out safely had it not been for the moron in the Golf. I will concede that the SUV should maybe have had another check to the right before pulling out, but at worst this would have been a 50/50 for me - there is no way you can't put some blame on the speed of the Golf.
traffic lights audi next to me revving engine and staring at me in the merc. i grab steering wheel both hands and give evil grin back lights green off he rockets swiftly pulled over by the unmarked police car i had seen behind him slowly pass the two with the same evil grin on my face. i love audi drivers,IQ`s in the low single digits.
2:45 There seems to be a set of traffic lights and a stop line short of the box. There is also a trffic light controlled pedestrian crossing far side of box. This seems a bit weird as when you enter the box the pedestrian crossing lights might go red trapping you in the box area.
@@kwlkid85 That makes it even more weird because traffic which has crossed the stop line metres back can go through these lights on red legitimately. The must not stop in the box either, encouraging them to continue. Do pedestrians understand this particularly if they observe traffic stopped on the other side of the road. This confusion seems to be the reason the lead car stopped.
@@keith6400 It's how nearly every traffic light junction in the UK works so I would assume everyone should know and it's not like the pedestrian can see that light.
@@keith6400 it’s not set that far back for the pedestrian crossing at all. There’s a turning on the right that is also light controlled the crossing has no influence in this junction other than the fact it just so happens to be installed there. It’s up to pedestrians to cross when safe to do so and they put it that near to the junction so it’s easy to read and understand what traffic is doing.
#7. No mini did right. By the time he actually reached the crossing it had just hit red. In the USA, if he'd gone through in this scenario, he would have been pulled up by the police. The cammer, wasn't paying enough attention. He had time to be braking as he was approaching the crossing and a person was waiting to cross, so the lights were ready to change
The mini did not do right. The mini had already passed the traffic lights, and was in the yellow keep clear box in the middle of the junction. They stopped at the repeater light for no reason other than not paying attention. The car behind should have had a bigger stopping distance but 100% the minis fault
No, the stop line for the red light for the mini was the other side of the box it had just crossed. Tge mini stopped at the repeater light fir the junction which has no stop line. The lights for the road on the right would go green before the light the mini had unnecessarily stoped at went green again, so sitting there, in the [middle of the] junction the mini is causing an unnecessary obstruction.
I genuinely hope all the people siding with the mini don’t drive because with simple observations you can see 1: that is not a light controlled crossing 2: there is no stop line 3: that is a repeater set of lights and 4: the mini stopped for no reason what so ever
29:55 totally avoidable by the cammer - if this went to insurance he'd be at fault for driving into the car deliberately(only steered and didn't slow down when the car was obviously pulling out)
16:03 - #27 - cammer: "he's meant to be back, really, you ain't gonna get past there...", also cammer: entitled, useless and wrong. She made no effort to help solve the situation by even inching a bit to the left, just sat there chatting useless info and watching someone else solve the problem they had both equally created.
"well that was just stupid, even for Audi" Laughed out loud at that 😂
it Could have been worse, could have been a BMW.
@@neil_mch or a mercedes.
3 minutes... The mini. The stop line was before the yellow box. Both vehicles were way past the stop line when the light turned red.
Came here to say this - the light the mini emergency braked for was the repeater on the other side of the junction and they did not need to stop for it. However, if the mini had been braking for an actual emergency the following vehicle should have been able to stop in the reaction and braking distance they should have left between them.
Cam car travelling far too close for the speed, less than 1 second separation.
Cam car is 100% at fault. No fault on the mini even if it could have made it thru the lights.
Even if he has a red light, he's in the yellow box already and his exit is clear, he should continue and clear the yellow box if it is safe to do so.
regardless of weather or not they should have stopped, the Highway Code states you should follow at a safe distance to be able to stop, just in case of this exact scenario. This person was clearly distracted as you can even see in the video how long it took them to react. So clearly they are at fault 🤦🏽♂️😂
It looks like the lights has just changed to the amber stop light at the start of the video rerun at 02:52. The cammer takes 2 seconds (02:54) to reach the final stop line with no attempt to stop. A further 1 second for the red to appear.
A light change is not a normal "emergency" brake as it is expected that a traffic light showing green will change at some stage to amber - the longercthexgreen has shown, the more likely the light will shortly change.
Therefore the cammer should have been expecting the change and adjusted its approach with the intention to stop but aiming to go if the green light still shows and the way is clear, particularly as it is a box junction.
The cammer is 100% at fault for failing to stop before the box; I suspect it was trying to rush and get through the lights regardless..
However, the action by the preceding car was not 100% safe either. I suspect that the driver saw the amber go red and failed to realise that it was a repeater for the stop line the other side of the junction. Its lack of care and attention over this, along with being unaware of what was going on behind it was contributory to the crash.
I doubt that the preceding car did an emergency stop for an idiot trying to achieve a Darwin Award.
It either, or both drivers driven properly then this crash would nit have happened.
This is also an old clip.
In other clips, a driver so stopping (seeing the repeater but no actual stop line) has caused an unnecessary obstruction to vehicles wanting to continue through their green.
48:10 One of the few cammers who saw the danger early and didn't accelerate angrily towards danger. Well done.
Yes! another mega-compilation "best of" UK bad driving video.😀😎😇
number 46 you see him flying like Peter pan inside that cabin 🤣🤣
No seatbelt?
50:18 🤦🏻YOU DONT STOP 🛑 TO LET HIM IN THE ROAD WHILE DRIVING IN THE OUTSIDE FAST LANE” YOU NUMPTY. YON NEVER STOP ON A MOTORWAY FOR ANY REASON! JUST KEEP GOING NOT YOUR PROBLEM.🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻
2:21 is mad just flying straight through a roundabout 😂
1:55 this is not the case at all, an insurer wouldn't find the car pulling out to be at fault as the other car was likely doing more than double the speed limit here. You can't be expected to assume cars will be driving at that speed
> You can't be expected to assume cars will be driving at that speed
You're not supposed to assume anything on the road, the driver should have seen them and calculated their speed. I don't think it would have been a 50/50 settlement because of the seed I agree with that that though.
It comes down to 3 scenarios.
You didn't look, and pulled out into their path.
You looked, but didn't look long enough to see how fast they were approaching, and pulled out into their path
You looked, seen how fast they were approaching, and pulled out into their path.
All 3 are negligent.
@@anonymousinternetuser7519 I had a friend who died in a crash in which they were driving 110+ mph on a motorway, but were hit by somebody switching lane too late. The other person was found to be 100% cleared of wrongdoing despite clearly not calculating the relative speeds. And that's a scenario in which someone died.
Not true, ite the resposibility of the car pulling out to make sure its safe to do so, you have no assumed priority even if the other vehicle is speeding.
14:41 Probably the worst place you could have stopped.
Never ceases to amaze me how people who have had a minor bump and whose vehicles are still drivable make no effort to get off the road and cause even more danger
Number 31... this would be a good claim, even though you were turning left, doesn't mean you only look to your right before entering the road. You should always always make it a habit of looking both ways, the amount of emergency vehicles and cars that have broken down forcing the cars to come around it in the lane your entering happens. You shouldn't always assume that lane is clear
#11 was definitely deliberate.
24:00 - WHY stop on a motorway in the lane?! Christ I was just waiting for the crunch as someone rear-ended the cam car.
#35 - Best bit of this video, a bit of AC/DC.
2:56 I have seen this unwarranted respect for a red light many times. We all need to be aware of where of where the stop-line is, and not presume that the other driver knows where the stop line is.Furthermore, the far side of the yellow box looks a bit like a stop-line.
If drivers don't know where stop lines are in relation to traffic lights and yellow boxes, maybe they shouldn't be on the road.
#31 (18:01) Similar thing happened to a work colleague of mine years ago. Yes the overtaking car is in the wrong for overtaking at a junction, however cam car is the one joining the road and, as happened to my colleague, would be found 100% at fault. You're supposed to look right, look left, then look right again before joining a road like this.
Actually it’s the cammer, who’s in the wrong here.
As always there’s rules for everyone in the HWC, often directing each user to avoid hazards. The car overtaking to not do so near junctions. But the cammer cannot join a new road unless it is clear to do so - cars could be passing a parked car (yet another rule) etc etc and so must look both ways and proceed once clear.
Entitled. Oblivious. Ignorant to the rules. Take your pick.
He is not in the wrong by overtaking at this junction as there are no solid lines on the road indicating not to. The dash cam guy was fully in the wrong and overtaking guy, perhaps not the best location but totally in his rights.
@@PanPuchacki Highway Code Rule 167 - DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road.
@@laugesen18 That's exactly what I said, the cammer is 100% at fault.
2:50 I live up the road from here, the mini should not of stop at light, it is a repeater light from the lights other side of junction, saying that cammer car was to close or would not of hit him
#10 Going to fast on a bend especially with ice on the road.
#27. Know this road very well. It’s a lane between Partington and either the crematorium or Altrincham. You can’t just back up as its quite a distance between the start and finish of this lane, and there are no passing places either. You do have to creep pass each other. In fact, I avoid this road entirely, and use a different route.
2:45 driver recording never seen an amber light before? Must have been planning to drive through the red I guess
That’s not a place where you stop the amount of comments on here that don’t understand this is shocking. It’s a repeater light for the stop line BEFORE the yellow box if the mini stopped there then the whole junction would be blocked
#42, She was definitely at fault. Trying to overtake with islands in the middle of the road. A good job its not a bad accident. And this from a nurse
CLAP THE NHS!!
30:12 And there was I thinking that the horn was for the purpose of expressing high emotion.
At 3 minutes you said the mini was in the wrong, for braking, when lights were on amber.
An a pedestrian was about to cross.
What highway code you read??
8:58 don't want to mention the random bloke just strolling across the busy roundabout though? No? lol
3:00 You do realise that the mini stopped in the middle of a junction? He/she was looking at the red light on the far side of the junction and decided to stop there, blocking the junction. Should never have stopped. Should have continued and cleared the junction.
not only that, if the mini DID keep going there was no way the cammer was going to be able to stop in time for the light , considering they should have already been braking for the light changing
Watching it again you’re right. Although the lights were so stupid there. The yellow box literally ends and there is space for you to stop and you would think that you have to since someone is crossing there
@@MrTVx99 They are only crossing because the idiot stopped where they shouldn't. The pedestrian light is on red the whole time meaning the opposing lights were green and they were blocking the junction.
@@colint4772 neither of them should have stopped at that light. The light to stop at was before the junction. That light is at the far side of the junction. You don't stop there.
21:10 doing a U-turn over double lines is a no no in 🇦🇺 Australia
2:47 don’t justify the mini stopping, it was the other side of the junction where it would have been subjected to stop for the red light, but it had already passed that point when the light was green, showing they just had a complete lack of awareness
#6. No excuse. All roundabouts work the same in Europe. I've been abroad many a time, and you always approach roundabouts expecting to stop
...and they all drive on the left, same as us, so you look the same way when approaching a roundabout...😉
Can someone please tell me what it is with Audi and BMW drivers? Is that there is a certain type of entitled driver that buys them? It's mainly the smaller ones ( A1, A3, A5, 1 series, 2 series, 3 series - in other words, I can't afford a real one"). The A class Mercs are getting the same way.....
The Honda Jazz and Suzuki drivers will also cause hassle, but through timidity, not aggression
The Runcorn roundabout is the worst place for that happening! It’s not that hard to read the markings!
#14. A definite foreign driver for sure
#77 that driver had two perfectly good door mirrors and the cammers car was far away back from it to be visible. That was pure "crash for cash!" Change my mind.
I love watching car crashes it just seems strange tho lol 😝
That's a horrible sight at 22.50!
If she didn't bring race or the NHS into it, I'd be very surprised lol.
#111 is round the corner from where I live there's been so many of these and accidents here, that there now putting in a roundabout there.
What thd video doesn't show is there is a McDonalds and hotel opposite all on a road where some cars speed along.
11:55, did this while there’s a kid in his car, and then the blue VW makes it even worse
25:08 that truck driver was not even wearing his seat belt, bad boy.
Noticed that myself, the back wheels locking up seems odd at first but it's probably a burst air line. Trucks like that have air brakes that are held open by air pressure and automatically lock up when there is no air pressure so a burst line can cause them to do that
#7 (2:46) you're saying in your opinion 'the mini should have gone'. You seem to be under the same delusion the mini driver is. That light is not for that location. The stop line is before the box junction. The mini should have continued.
Cam car was following too closely and thus was unable to stop in time, as well as not waiting until their exit from the box junction was clear.
Bad all round, mini driver, cam car, and uploader (or whoever wrote the 'should have gone' comment).
1st clip... looks like a motorway and a HGV cammer... why is he in the fast lane?
YES I was wondering the same thing. Thought it was illegal for HGV's to be in the outside lane
25:01 - HGV did not have a seat belt on either
I know you have a lot of narrow streets in the UK, but I was just wondering if incidents might decrease if everyone had to park in the direction the traffic is heading? It's illegal here in Australia to park on the opposite side of the road.
Completely agree, Neil, and as you are aware, you can also be charged for driving on the wrong side of the road if you do so.
And given the narrowness of so many streets it might also help by routinely restricting parking to one side only. Residents would doubtless be up in arms but without off-street parking that's the risk you take when buying a car, or a second car.
It is illegal in the UK to park on the road at night facing the opposite direction unless in a recognised parking space.
@@bobbyladd go pick ⚒️ up with you guys coming hoemonaytonvxoy
@bobbadd fzg
03:05 The mini was TOTALLY wrong - no question. They stopped at the repeater (additional) light for that direction, mistaking it for a pedestrian crossing. There is a pedestrian phase, but this is clearly at red and the old fella did not move. The car that hit the mini should have been a bit further back, but a random stop like this is very hard to deal with.
But the cammer should have expected the lights to turn amber and so be able to stop in the 2 seconds before it reached to box and 3 seconds before the red showed.
@@cigmorfil4101 Wrong because you don’t stop there at all it’s a repeat light for the actual stop line before the yellow box.
@@hausmaster9801 no, I was referring to the cammer who had yet to pass the stop line, and so expecting _[sic]_ the lights to change would have been preparing to possibly need to stop, and so would not have been in a position to hit the mini stopping at the repeater lights (which have no stop line).
It was this failure by the cammer to anticipate that the green light will turn into an amber stop light at some time which led it to rushing through the junction (racing the red light), and so not being in a position to react to the actual unexpected event of the mini stopping at the repeated light.
The mini shouldn't have stopped, but the cammer shouldn't have hit a a stationary object.
I wonder what everyone's reaction would have been if the mini had stopped there because a small child, unseen by the cammer/camera, had rushed towards the road and the mini driver did an emergency stop to avoid the possibility of hitting it...
6:50 I'd Have gotten out and written TWAT in the dirt on the back of that van
I’m unsure but number 14 by driving closer seemed to make the issue worse rather than backing off even at the roundabout with a pedestrian in the middle
Well you weren't blaming the Golf in clip 4, so that means the Corsa in clip 24 must have been in the right, doesn't it?
I wonder how many are new arrivals
3:04 if the traffic lights are at amber be prepared to stop, says in the highway code, also the fact is he went through the first set of amber traffic lights without slowing and hit the car in front
The first and second set of lights are for the same point in the junction, which was next to the first set of lights, they should in no way stop where the mini stopped unless something is obstructing the road or another equally dangerous scenario
#28 - 16:35 - Props to cammer for listening to Dream Theater 🤘🏼
These weren't recent !! l've seen a lot of these before !! Some are in summertime !
the mini at 3:00 was across the stop line well before it turned red so should have continued, but there is never any excuse for a rear shunt if you can not stop safely in any emergency you are too close
Based on the timings of the video I am pretty sure the amber light had appeared just before the rerun at 02:52. However it is 2 seconds if video before the cammer crosses the stop line before the box, so there was plenty of time to stop as it would have been expecting the green to change to amber.
Ball game, sedan,truck? Next we’ll be driving on the right and forming gun toting posses
5:33 By _doing something horrible_ I assume you mean driving an parking on the footway. I agree.
#7 at 2:46 clearly shows on amber before mini gets there. And 2:47 on red , still before the mini gets there. The mini's brake lights are working. IMO the caption " the mini should have gone" total BS. And how do you know he/she panicked ?? you have no idea of the state of mind of the driver. They didn't slam on, they braked progressively. The cammer totally at fault for 1. rear ending the mini, 2. Not reading the road with several idiot proof visuals such as a set of lights going from green/amber/red, 3. Its a crossing with someone waiting..how many more clues does the cammer need ?? probably on his bloody phone.
2:52 #7 The replay clearly shows the mini going through the first of lights on amber because they were probably too afraid to stop because there was a bell end of a cammer racing up behind trying to jump the lights. The next set of lights wasn't for them so they are both at fault for the accident but for different reasons.
#29 @ 17:00 the only reason you didn’t hit the car in front is because you flew into the left hand lane. So YOU were driving to close too🤦🏻♂️
IMO The Mini was right to stop
46:00 proceeds to drive inches from a cyclist😂
#74 As far as I can tell the man is walking against the traffic, which is the correct thing to do.
he's almost certainly walking on the wrong side of the road, look at his legs. Unless his knees bend the wrong way hes walking away from the cammer. You can also just about make out him turning his head to see the cam car.
3.0 The mine was correct you were wrong, too fast too close. What's with these truckers who point camera on the tarmac?
Did anyone notice these are repeats of 2021
43:00 guess another error was to clearly go over the signed speed limit…
#1. Just remember that lorry drivers are not always to blame. They do have blind spots. Also, not all lorries have cameras fitted all around the lorry so the drivers can see, also doing this takes his eyes off the road more often than not
Not to mention the cammer in lane 3 and clearly in a lorry.
@@Everydayonce1 Thought I was the only one to notice that.
That van not stopping at the zebra crossing for the child to cross, what a complete tool (would swear but not appropriate with the amount of words I would call him).
#13, van driver needs to take his theory and hazard test😮
The car driver was FAR worse though and made the situation much more dangerous for everyone. I have no idea why she thought that clip was something where people would side with her!
@@bloonface totally agree, I was purely thinking of the Highway Code on lanes merging into a primary. The car driver is a different matter…
Disagree re the incident at 1:55. The cammer was turning off (seen at 2:00) and, assuming he was indicating such, the vehicle would have judged it safe to pull out.
17:30 - uninsured car so he drives dangerously and in the event of an accident the victim is even worse off.
18:02 no signs to say no overtaking on the road being joined? Cammer didn't observe both ways fully - just the lane they were joining? Was Mustang indicating when overtake started? Agree that RR shouldn't have overtaken though.
21:50 , not what it seems . LH lane is left turn only to A470, RH lane A470 or straight on. Purple car clearly in the wrong lane.
25:10 locked rear tyres can clearly be seen, mechanical failure on the air system. Driver must have been shocked!
Can't understand your conclusion at 3 minutes. The mini was stopped and the cammer's car crashed into the back when the lights were at red and there was a pedestrian waiting to cross. Cammer was negligent at best
@1:34. Nope. The car that pulled out was not at fault necessarily. One could assume that he/she had looked right, assessed the speed of the obviously larger and slower vehicle, which would well have obscured the overtaking and speeding car, then looked left and pulled out on that assessment. I repeat, the car that overtook would likely not be visible to the car that pulled out, as they appeared from behind a slower larger vehicle. So contrary to the opinion of the cammer; the car that pulled out was not at fault. Though I will concede; a little more observation, such as looking twice, would most likely have helped. However both drivers managed to react in time. That could have been nasty.
Mini - nope. The one behind the mini has to keep the safe distance. She did not. It is 100% her fault.
No that is a pedestrian crossing and imo the mini was correct the other driver was an idiot
4:57 absolutely nothing the driver on snow and ice could have done about that?!
Firstly, they could have prepared their car for the winter by buying decent winter tyres - or all-seasons if they didn’t want to swap tyres every spring and autumn. They were clearly on summer tyres which are the wrong choice for those conditions. The latest Michelin CrossClimate 2 is the only tyre you need for anything the U.K. weather can thrown at you whatever the season.
Secondly - as you then go on to say - even with the correct rubber on they should have been travelling at perhaps half the speed they were.
Sometimes your comments are best left in you head.
#94, yes the Range Rover driver is terrible - but by their own admission, clearly lost - hooting won't help. They also didn't "block the road", they turned right. Lastly how close was the cammer to the cyclist at the end of the clip at 46:22 ?
18:03 surely that is cammers faullt? Those lines mean you can overtake?
both at fault, you never ever overtake at a junction as per the Highway code.
@@georgebarnes8163 I looked for this part and couldn't find it earlier. Do you know what part it's in?
@@anonymousinternetuser7519 E Rule 167
DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example
approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road
@@georgebarnes8163 what if there was a broken down or parked car. You writing lullabys here. The cammer was fully at fault. Junctions where you can't overtake are clearly marked with continuous lines. Here it was fully legal to overtake.
Has the UK gone insane 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
#85 - So many people do this with their bikes, but it's illegal as the real number plate is covered.
Argh. Only the first clip and the zooming starts.
51:33 you can clearly see the golf has lost control and crashed into the shop and with his stupid story 2 people got into a taxi and sped off! Yep and the taxi driver has just picked them up after setting fire to a car. And the taxi was waiting for them too” Omg what crap!🤐sure they did” and broken the land speed record to be instantly gone!🥱what a crock of shite. Clearly he’s lying! Say Anything to clear himself not to be the driver who’s obviously got no insurance or licence. If the police listen to that one there stupid!
2:46 #7 what was that mini thinking, I first thought the cammer was in the wrong but looking again that mini was already past the stopline for that red light and the yellow box he stopped in aswel was unexpected, but at the end of the day the cammer still should of paid more attention and left more of a gap between them for the collision not to happen
At 46:19 he didn't give the cyclist enough room
#20 . As you state, we don't know why he kicked off, but it looks serious to me. And another taxi driver involved in the incident
18:15 the only claim would be against recording driver for not paying attention. Many people would think that overtaking car was in the wrong but no, if you join the road you got responsibility to check both sides. He could legally overtake in that spot and the dashcam guy would have to pay out.
The highway code clearly states 'DO NOT overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users, when approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road' Legally this is enforced by the Road Traffic Act 1988
Last one on video. If I was his girlfriend I would get rid of him asap
1:56 It DOES matter how fast the Golf was going. When the car that was pulling out checked to their right, the road may well have been clear (when I say clear, I mean up to the cammers vehicle obviously). They had every right to expect the cammer and the following vehicles to maintain their speed, so they would have had ample time to pull out safely had it not been for the moron in the Golf.
I will concede that the SUV should maybe have had another check to the right before pulling out, but at worst this would have been a 50/50 for me - there is no way you can't put some blame on the speed of the Golf.
traffic lights
audi next to me revving engine and staring at me in the merc.
i grab steering wheel both hands and give evil grin back
lights green
off he rockets
swiftly pulled over by the unmarked police car i had seen behind him
slowly pass the two with the same evil grin on my face.
i love audi drivers,IQ`s in the low single digits.
Some real bad drivers on this compilation! and the roads are getting worse
Why is it always an Audi?........🤔
2:02 crash for cash attempt?
I reckon so, no need for the car to have stopped.
2:45 There seems to be a set of traffic lights and a stop line short of the box. There is also a trffic light controlled pedestrian crossing far side of box. This seems a bit weird as when you enter the box the pedestrian crossing lights might go red trapping you in the box area.
That's wrong, theres no line so it's not a separate crossing.
@@kwlkid85 That makes it even more weird because traffic which has crossed the stop line metres back can go through these lights on red legitimately. The must not stop in the box either, encouraging them to continue. Do pedestrians understand this particularly if they observe traffic stopped on the other side of the road. This confusion seems to be the reason the lead car stopped.
@@keith6400 It's how nearly every traffic light junction in the UK works so I would assume everyone should know and it's not like the pedestrian can see that light.
@@kwlkid85 I'm just surprised at the distance that things are set back for a pedestrian crossing.
@@keith6400 it’s not set that far back for the pedestrian crossing at all. There’s a turning on the right that is also light controlled the crossing has no influence in this junction other than the fact it just so happens to be installed there. It’s up to pedestrians to cross when safe to do so and they put it that near to the junction so it’s easy to read and understand what traffic is doing.
these people causing trouble as usual
#64 You looked like you were doing more than 25, try 35.
#7. No mini did right. By the time he actually reached the crossing it had just hit red. In the USA, if he'd gone through in this scenario, he would have been pulled up by the police. The cammer, wasn't paying enough attention. He had time to be braking as he was approaching the crossing and a person was waiting to cross, so the lights were ready to change
The mini did not do right. The mini had already passed the traffic lights, and was in the yellow keep clear box in the middle of the junction. They stopped at the repeater light for no reason other than not paying attention. The car behind should have had a bigger stopping distance but 100% the minis fault
Absolutely agree.
Wrong, that light is for the junction it's not a separate crossing
No, the stop line for the red light for the mini was the other side of the box it had just crossed. Tge mini stopped at the repeater light fir the junction which has no stop line.
The lights for the road on the right would go green before the light the mini had unnecessarily stoped at went green again, so sitting there, in the [middle of the] junction the mini is causing an unnecessary obstruction.
I genuinely hope all the people siding with the mini don’t drive because with simple observations you can see 1: that is not a light controlled crossing 2: there is no stop line 3: that is a repeater set of lights and 4: the mini stopped for no reason what so ever
29:55 totally avoidable by the cammer - if this went to insurance he'd be at fault for driving into the car deliberately(only steered and didn't slow down when the car was obviously pulling out)
#24. Both. #26. That's boys for you, majority of them does type of driving, if not worse
46:35 landrover did nothing wrong, cam car needs to calm down and read the road - if it was a parked car would he be screaming "idiot" at him?
#18 Report the driver to the Police.
#27…the classic women who can’t reverse🥴
#31 cammers fault all day long. Look both ways before pulling out.
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16:03 - #27 - cammer: "he's meant to be back, really, you ain't gonna get past there...", also cammer: entitled, useless and wrong. She made no effort to help solve the situation by even inching a bit to the left, just sat there chatting useless info and watching someone else solve the problem they had both equally created.
16:42 such bullshit "I wanted to take the first turn" you were doing about 40mph when you passed that turning
#7, totally the cammers fault. Doesn't matter what caused the car in front to stop, cammer shouldn't have been that close.