How much does a nice Ubiquiti network cost?
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- čas přidán 27. 02. 2023
- Looking to build a reliable and scalable network infrastructure in your home during the building stage? Look no further than Ubiquiti Networks. In this video, we outline the costs involved in building a Ubiquiti network into your home, including the necessary rack and rack accessories, as well as the high-quality Unifi network gear that will power your home's connectivity.
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UDM-Pro
Unifi 16 Port POE 150W - US-16-150W
U6-LR Ceiling mount access point
U6-Inwall access point
AC Mesh Pro Outdoor access point
CyberPower OR500LCDRM1U Smart App LCD UPS
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I use keystone-style patch panels, It allows you to terminate the cable in a plug and move it around behind the patch panel without having to pull cut and punch down. The second reason is that it allows me to color segerate runs like you do with the jumper cables. If a cable doesn't match the socket, I know someone has been moving stuff around. Another item is running that blue tubing for low voltage it allows you to run multiple cables to locations ie tv, and network and allow it to be replaced if needed.
Excellent presentation and explanation of the basic system. Keep up the good work and looking forward for more smart insights.
Wow! Very Nice. This was very helpful for people who does not do networking. You have helped me today and I learned a lot. Now I need to learn how to hook things up.
So glad to see this be in new homes. At the very least the cabling and setup for one. I use the USDM SE and I went with Cat8 for my 1969 home reno, and my outside has two UI6 Long Range also ran Cat8 out there. I get 10g all over the place and great wifi in about 2-3 acres of my 10 acres lot. No matter where I go, my WIFI is on one SSD and I never miss a beat. OVerkill, probably but I wanted future proof and speed. And cat8 was overkill but for the price and spec it was same price as 6a or 7 and I can move to 25g in the future. Anyhow, the point is I went all out on UI only products and love them! Best setup ever.
Sounds like a great setup. I do love UniFi gear.
Your video quality is really good!
Awesome video! Taught me a ton for planning my new house. Thanks.
Thanks so much for the feedback.
You don’t need a patch panel in a house. It’s not an office building where you’re constantly replacing cables and reorganizing the patch panel
I tend to agree but that’s definitely one topic that many out there feel very strongly one way or the other. Thanks for weighing in.
I just like it for cable management
Vey good video thanks for sharing and nicely explained, this is the future of home networking. I have been using Ubiquiti for the last 2 or 3 years. I started with an open rack much like yours, the UDMP and the 8 port PoE 150W switch with a couple of of In Wall APs. Over the last 2 or 3 years I've upgraded everything, it is very easy to get sucked in to their eco system. I now have a closed 9U rack with UDMP, 48 PoE switch, UNVr, AP6LR and Pro and a bunch or outdoor and indoor cameras. Mu home network is now robust and runs itself pretty much, I can do a lot of remote support and what I like best, no yearly subscriptions.
I tend to agree. Having this infrastructure built in from the start really does pay dividends down the road. I am really happy to hear that Unifi has been a great move for you. There are a lot of haters out there, but I think for this type of network (a home), the work GREAT. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome video sir !!
great video. Unifi gear is awesome and glad more installers are pushing/recommending their easy to manage gear.
any reason you didnt DAC the UDM to the Switch? the UDM dummy switch isnt as good as using a DAC to another switch. might not be a big performance dip running off the UDM 8 port, but just a suggestion. Keep up the content!
In my setup, the UDM is SFP+ and my switch is just SFP. That’s why I didn’t mess with using SFPs or DAC cables. I plan on getting some SFPs of each kind and playing around with them a bit.
If you want to terminate solid core and plug it into a switch, get the special plugs for solid core. The common type for penetrating stranded cable makes the contacts sit high with solid core: It works fine the first time you plug them in, but is likely to permanently deform the pins in the socket. Not so much a problem with a switch you can easily replace, but the previous owner did this to the fiber-CPE in my house and it cost me hours in debugging and unbending the connector (I have a tool for that too).
That’s great advice. Would you mind sharing the ends you use with the viewers?
I dont think this is true unless the person doing the crimping does a bad job. Most crimpers are ratcheting so they compress to a certain point usually without fail. Its when you use those non ratcheting crimpers where if you dont squeeze hard enough the pins wont go in deep enough and do a proper crimp. I've never had any issues with my crimps. The only issues I've ran into is if you try using stranded RJ45 connectors for solid core cable. Which honestly stranded connectors are rare to find in the first place but I've ran into some. The only other problems I've had where using Cat5e cable on Cat6 RJ45 connectors. Cat5e is 24AWG while Cat6 is 23AWG. Basically Cat5e wire is too small and you're likely to not have good contact even if using a good crimper.
Although the problem doesnt seem to exist the other way. Personally I havent had any issues using RJ45 connectors meant for Cat5e on Cat6 cable.
Big thumbs up. Awesome video.
Great video. I enjoyed watching it.
Thank you. Going to be releasing a lot more videos on this sort of thing very soon. It’s in the works.
I just did a UXG-Pro to upgrade from my Edge Router Lite, a USW24-PoE to replace my USW-8-PoE 60w. Waiting for 6E access points to drop in cost and will be adding cameras. Happy with the UXG. All IPS functionality on a gig connection.
And your patch panel comment. I got ahold of a 1U 48 port patch panel so I could 1:1 my 24 port for now, and in the future, I’ll be able to have expansion room.
Sounds like a super nice setup. I haven’t seen the UXGs in stock. Like ever.
@@ethernetblueprint I just ordered it under a month ago. I was shocked to see it in stock so I jumped on it. 1000VA UPS coming (not rackmount though, going to wall mount it with a small shelf and a retainer strap.
The ports on the switch depend on the switch model, the number of ports, and the brand of the switch.
In the Unifi range, the Enterprise switches have the ports all the way along the front. 48 port switches in the Pro range also are all the way across. As you get into smaller port numbers in the pro and standard range, that's when they get bunched at one end. So it depends what you get :). That said, with a small number of ports, I don't bother with patch panels. I generally only use them with larger number of ports
From an asthetic standpoint, I agree!
I have Ubiquiti overkill for my home.
PDU Pro
UCK-G2-plus
UXG-Pro
Enterprise-XG 24
Pro-24-PoE
3 Pro-USG-8-PoE
1 with a 10G backbone to the garage, 1 with a 10G backbone to the attic.
One that is attached via UBB (bridge) and sits in my shed for security.
4x U6E APs
1 U6 LR in the shed
4x AI Pro cameras
1x G5 Dome
3x Floodlights
2x G4 Pro doorbell cams and 2 chimes
2x security sensors
Still planning to add the NVR pro and 3 more AI Pro cameras and actually wanting to add the aggregation.
It’s addicting a little once you get started. Sounds like a cool setup.
totally. Been using their stuff for the last 8 years maybe. I did end up pulling the trigger on the 8 port aggregation and the UNVR Pro. Overnighted and will be here tomorrow - can’t wait!
Off top of my head a good network setup is I'd say 1000 or just over. May look into that cyberpower to go to my ubiquiti pdu. Alternate switch patch switch patch. Quality keystone patch is $20.
Screw cisco still subpar with the go router maxing out at 500mbps
Your patch panel hang-up is hilarious. And pass thru RJ45s are for handicapped installers.
Cool👍🏼
Great stuff!
Thanks! If you’re interested in cost, I did another video that talks about it was well. Thanks for watching
I'd like to point out that, since in research the layman may come across it, Cat 7 is not better for many purposes than Cat 6A. It sounds better since the number is higher, but the specs do not necessarily correlate.
Your leaving performance on the table by using a gigabit port on the dream machine get a direct attach copper sfp connector it raises switching capability
UDM is SFP+ and my switch is just SFP. That’s why I didn’t mess with using them or DAC cables. But I’m sure you are correct. I’ll have to play around with that more.
I didn't realize your switch was just sfp that's my bad it probably plays a big part
Can that main controller really do deep packet inspection and maintain 10gbe speeds? Just wondering - Thanks for the great video.
There is overhead when doing packet inspection. 10Gb speeds are not likely.
Hi from Australia. Having just built a home network (with my workshop in a separate building) I am interested to see how your Ubiquiti gear cost compares with ours. Quoting quite large equipment supplier that I use, a U6LR costs (Au) $359. I used AC Pro Access Points that cost (Au) $239 each) Dream Machine Pro costs (Au) $819 ( I used Dream Machine Pro SE that cost (Au) $1059 . Unfortunately, even though I have enough ports on the DMPSE, I still needed to add another switch for my workshop, and am now waiting on an 8 Port PoE+ switch (Au) $359. As you can see, we have to pay more for these products. Example, converting (Au) $819 for the Dream Machine Pro, on today's exchange rate comes to (US) $549. Your price of (US) $379 is (US) $170 cheaper!
All of my pricing was from the Ubiquiti US Store. No special hookups. Sounds like your supplier is marking things up quite a bit.
Great video, but I think there's some incorrect information around 14:19. I own the UDM SE and it can only handle a maximum of 2.5Gbe on the WAN port (where the white cable is plugged in).
You are right. I apologize for the misinformation. Thanks for keeping me honest. lol
Only thing that bothers me is the lack of DAC cable between they UDM and the Switch. Otherwise, love it, best home option. (I have drunk the Kool-Aid)
In this setup, my UDM is a SFP+ and my switch is only SFP. So I can’t use a DAC cable. I could use SFPs though and may add that later.
DMP, 2 Switches, Aggregation Switch, NVR, 13 cameras, 2 APs. Then built two NAS for a 4u and a 1U
Wow! That sounds like quite the setup!
great video sir
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Great video for a novice like myself. Can I use hikvision cameras with this system??
Yes... We install them all the time with Unifi Systems. Typically, the Hikvision NVR just needs to plug into a port on your switch so it can come online and then all the cameras cabling gets pulled bacl to the NVR.
@@ethernetblueprint Ahh great news. Thank you 👍🏻
Very interested in Ubiquity.
Don’t forget, on the UDM Pro, and the SE, all the ports share the same 1Gb channel, so speed wise, get the switch and use it, the 1Gb is fine for most internet things, but for the regular network traffic on the lan, I much prefer the speed of a good switch. The SFP+ can do 10Gb, and so can one of the WAN’s I think. Probably getting most of this wrong without researching…
I’ll have to look into that a little bit. Thanks for the comment.
If you hav a big enough rack could you add an extra switch? Daisy chained?
Of course. That is an effective way to add ports to a home. Simply add a switch and connect it to your other switch.
Cat 6a if they need to go over 55 meters.... right? (180 feet) because Cat 6 will do 10 gig up to 55 meters. ( I have seen it work further also but wouldn't recommend pushing that luck) I do agree with you about going ahead and installing 6a though. if they can afford the little bit more. Appreciate the break down!!! I wish we could get more builders on this page of asking if the client wants it because it is such a pain afterwards.
Thanks so much...
I was able to pre wire my house with cat6 cables. I should have placed a cat6 drop in every room.
in reference to the patch panels, it should be router, patch panel, switch patch panel again.
Why two patch panels?
Nice
By the way... the UDM says your internet is down LOL look at the screen on the udm.
But does poe reduce the speed through the wire ?
Nope.
Why didn't you run the cat cable behind the drywall?
All of the cat wires are behind the drywall. If you’re referring to the blue tube, that’s just flex tubing for maybe adding a fiber line down the road…
@@ethernetblueprint ah, that explains it. Very sharp looking install.
What’s the dream machine like for a home network?
I love it. I am going to be doing a whole series on building out a simple yet powerful home network and am going to be using the dream machine pro. That will be very soon. The device itself does quite a bit and I think that’s intimidating for people. I’m going to show the basics.
@@ethernetblueprint I was going to go for the UDM/ SE cos it has poe ports _any good?
Yes. Very much a great device. Just make sure that it has the amount of power you’ll need. I think there are some power limitations on that device.
I would get rid of the two brush panels and replace them with patch panels, this way you can terminate with CAT6 keystones and still use 6” patch cables. Also, you should be able to get 10gbps with CAT6 if the run doesn’t exceed the threshold.
Appreciate the comment... Everyone just loves the patch panels. It actually has a patch panel now but I kept the brush plates. It won't make any difference on speed though... Appreciate the comment though...
You’re a professional company but you tell everyone what the retail cost of the equipment is? How do you make any money?
UniFi doesn’t have distro so buying direct is the only option. I mark things up and add labor for configuration. That’s how I do it. Not saying it’s the only way.
I really wish ubiquity would make their mountable products 10in wide. There is no reason to make network racks that wide for residential use unless you live in a mic mansion.
Hmmmm
12:35 finally starts the real video
Yes. I’m long winded. Working on that.
Wellll…… I’m about to about $8k thus far. 😂
Yes... the NVR and cameras make up quite a bit of that. I was only talking about network in the video... Keep us posted on how all of it goes!
UNIFI IS NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME! You have to use their server and if it doesn't work you are screwed. If you don't have the right Java or if it conflicts with something It just doesn't work. And they have had this problem for over 10 years! SAD! Where would Apple be if they put out such crap! I can't even get into their server because there is some type of port 8080 conflict. And maybe I don't have the correct Java. But you look up the sever error and you get post from 10 years ago! So they know of the problem but still haven't fixed it! I can't believe I spent so much money on something that is such shit. And who wants to take down all their security just to see if that's the problem. What are they thinking?
Well, it definately sounds like it is not the right solution for you. I, personally, haven't run into any java issues so I'm not sure what you are describing there. I do appreciate your feedback and opinion. Best of luck with your network journey.
I got tired of watching your video and not getting how much it will cost me a Unifi started kit. Too much bla bla bla and no substance.
Appreciate the feedback. That was an older video - one of my first. I redid the cost video later.
@@ethernetblueprint Can you supply me with a link to a better review. Thank you for your prompt answer.
Sorry for the delay. czcams.com/video/bMiWQAERAKo/video.html
The question should be how long will it last? lol. Just check on google/YT about failed switches. But then from sales perspective this is great! job security and all:)
We have great luck with them lasting. I used the APs in my home for 8 years before I replaced them and even then the others weren’t bad. It was just time to upgrade. I think you’d be pleasantly surprised with durability
@@ethernetblueprint Luck isn't good enough for such expensive kit and to be fair. But I agree that the only good thing ubiquiti make are their APs. Their UDMs are just a glorified router and by no means an "enterprise security gateway" and the poe switches are design to fail due to bad design in their cooling.
Sorry that had been your experience. I just haven’t seen that on my end and we install these all the time. All fair points if that has how it’s worked for you. And we dont sell the UDM Pro as a enterprise router. Works great for a home.