The Right Way To Teach Cross Controlled Stalls

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  • čas přidán 10. 01. 2023
  • AOPA Safety Institute research found that 4 in 5 Cross Control accidents resulted in an onboard death. Cross Controlled Stalls are considered one of the most lethal stalls that can happen, so knowing the cause of it is crucial for any pilot. Liz Brassaw (Chief Flight Instructor) demonstrates how to do a Cross Controlled Stall in this video. She shows why it is caused and how to fix it. For more in-depth detail watch our ground explanation of Cross Control Stall Here: • 3 Stalls That Could Je...
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Komentáře • 28

  • @TheAirplaneDriver
    @TheAirplaneDriver Před 6 měsíci +10

    Use of opposite rudder in a base to final turn is NOT a realistic scenario based training setup and it should not be taught in that context. The problem is skidding with use of excessive INSIDE rudder to accelerate the turn. This is clearly stated in the AFH. Inside rudder, when slow and with excessive back pressure, will induce a yawing motion in the direction of the low wing causing the low wing to stall leading to a spin. Students need to be taught that this is a killer maneuver. It is not demonstrated in primary flight training and should always be avoided.
    Stalls from opposite control inputs and excessive back pressure would occur in a slip, not a skid. Slips are safe maneuvers and stalls in a slip are relatively benign. Students should be taught use of both forward and side slips properly and should not be afraid to use either to help reacquire the glideslope without building up excess airspeed.

  • @johnwise497
    @johnwise497 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Great demo. I teach this in a Citabria during tailwheel and spin endorsement training. One thought though. I’m 67 and you kids are obviously 40 years younger than me. the comment that you never want to start a conversation with “I have a story ““ is the problem with flight training. I have had many many close calls, including two off airport landings with injury in the last two years and multiple engine failures in a variety of aircraft in the last six years. We need people to tell those stories because it’s the real world. you can’t just avoid everything.

  • @fortheloveofcake93
    @fortheloveofcake93 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Airplane flying handbook recommends not using flaps for this maneuver.

    • @javarenas
      @javarenas Před 5 měsíci

      but the airplane flying handbook is just generalized, its very aircraft dependent. for example, the piper tomahawk requires one notch for this demonstration. but it can be done either way!

  • @CocoEspada
    @CocoEspada Před rokem +7

    Great work guys, solid instruction

  • @rapinncapin123
    @rapinncapin123 Před 2 měsíci

    Really good video

  • @bcfreedomfighterbcff167

    Aren't we supposed to clear to the left first?

  • @archerpiperii2690
    @archerpiperii2690 Před rokem

    Fancy new Archer you've got there! ;)

  • @natalino4495
    @natalino4495 Před rokem

    I would love to fly with you Liz Brassaw !!

  • @michaelshannon6134
    @michaelshannon6134 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I dont understand why anyone would do this, why add opposite aileron when trying to bank steeply towards the runway? Really this is just a forward slip but without paying attention to airspeed, and forward slip is one of my favorite maneuvers.

    • @IvanskiYakinovski
      @IvanskiYakinovski Před 8 měsíci

      The maneuver is to practice a scenario where you overcorrect for a mistake without maintaining coordination.
      Doing a base to final turn is the most common scenario where someone would make this mistake.

    • @ladoe7239
      @ladoe7239 Před 8 měsíci

      What I guess is,
      the pilot try to use left rudder to increase the left turn(left aileron bank), the airplane goes to skip with low airspeed, gets into skip stall ---- not cross controlled stall.
      Then pilot feels uncontrollable left-wing drop(spin), he tries to use right aileron to bank back to balance(sounds like cross control with stall/spin speed), but not work.
      No time no height to recover. Life wastes.

  • @SuperAirplanemaster
    @SuperAirplanemaster Před rokem +1

    I go-around reset

  • @JSFGuy
    @JSFGuy Před rokem

    🤔... How about some upset recovery? Full tilt?

    • @javarenas
      @javarenas Před 5 měsíci +1

      for reals, that was not a full cross control stall, how is a student supposed to recover from the real full on wing drop if they dont know to expect it so they get scared.

  • @cmritchie04
    @cmritchie04 Před rokem

    would that lead to a flat spin?

    • @WWIFlyingAce
      @WWIFlyingAce Před rokem

      Depends on the CG, but most likely just a regular spin

    • @bt8469
      @bt8469 Před 5 dny

      Only if one nozzle fails, and it's out to sea. Totally unavoidable.

  • @prathamchohan4817
    @prathamchohan4817 Před rokem

    Is there any other solution besides a go around?

    • @taytayflyfly7291
      @taytayflyfly7291 Před rokem +1

      If there is enough room, you can simply maneuver back to the extended centerline of the runway AND stay coordinated. The key mistake in the cross-controlled stall is using "bottom rudder" aka inducing a skidding attitude (as opposed to slipping, which is safer). The other huge mistake is increasing the angle of attack by raising the nose.
      #1 lesson should be to never skid the airplane. #2 lesson is always be aware of your angle of attack, or just keep the nose down when low and slow.

    • @dwaynemcallister7231
      @dwaynemcallister7231 Před 6 měsíci

      In the last few flights before my flight test for the PPL I had to fly with the flight school chief pilot before getting recommended for the flight test any way the instructor asked me to land "no flaps" as I turned base, I didn't pull power back enough for no flaps so turning final I employed full top rudder, that fixed the " too high problem beautifully but instructor say's " you can't do that " . " That's a advanced maneuver". I didn't say anything back but my normal instructor said if something doesn't look right fix it. Anyway I fixed it, my landing was beautiful, but the chief didn't care for my solution, you can't please all the people all the time!@@taytayflyfly7291

  • @flyingpig132
    @flyingpig132 Před 9 měsíci +1

    reduce AOA first!

  • @Tyleraviator99
    @Tyleraviator99 Před rokem +14

    you should not be using flaps to avoid exceeding aircraft limitations

    • @backcountyrpilot
      @backcountyrpilot Před 4 měsíci +2

      I think the flaps on some C172’s can blank out the rudder at full flaps, but she’s demonstrating a stall while landing with just 2 of the 3 notches.

  • @BettinaBrentano-si5ti
    @BettinaBrentano-si5ti Před 2 měsíci

    I think you need to clean up this Demo a bit