For those wondering, Captain Smith was calling them back because they were only half filled. He attempted to recall those boats so they could be completely filled.
@@tavare1163 When the incident first happened and the first boats were launched many passengers thought that there was no way the ship was going to sink so preferred to stay on the ship rather than row around in the cold on a small lifeboat. I only know this because I watched an interview with a crew member remembering the incidents recorded in 1970 yesterday.
@@tavare1163 Some stewards intepreted their orders as women and children and not women and children, with no more around they lowered the boats. Other boats were filled with men once women and children were on.
Officer Murdoch filled his boats. Officer Lighttoller interpreted the Captain’s order of “Women and children first” as Women and children only and launched his half full.
@@tavare1163Most survivors had no idea the ship was even sinking. One said that she thought that's how it was done for 3rd class passengers. That they got brought to the city by rowboat. Others were scared of loading while it was 70 feet above the ocean.
It’s almost the same as the other seen of this boat, you can tell they recorded this scene because the sailor acted like brown said this before though.@@chazzas3469
Nah, it's much tighter with how they cut it. It tells the same story, Molly wanted to go back because there was space on the boat, there's no need for the captain to be calling them back too. The way it was cut in the end made everything feel more urgent, less farcical.
Every moment deleted with Astor I find, I really find the man quite admirable. I wish Cameron would pull a Bergman and recut Titanic as a three part miniseries and restore most of the deleted material.
@@matthewchen3678 I know Tarantino did it for Hateful 8 and has talked about doing it for Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood. Outside of the editing and Cameron's time with Pandora, I would think the biggest obstacle is the fact if hypothetical miniseries happened, it's 30 years since the release and James Horner will have been gone in half that time and how much unused material from the scoring sessions is left so they can keep the legacy intact.
He really did spend time throwing chairs over board. A Chinese man survives the sinking because he was able to balance with his hand and feet on one of the chairs. God bless both of those brave survivors who managed endure the unimaginable. Charles Joughans account of climbing the rails all the way to the stern as it sank gives me shudders. You can briefly see him climbing in the movie.
To all those mentioning the suction. They do not mean suction as in boat gets pulled under water, following the sinking ship. The suction they can experience is the one when ship's air is rapidly replaced by ingress of water through windows, vents, doors and all sorts of openings. People have been sucked back into the ship. There is a potential risk of a boat getting trapped by such ingress of water , simply pulling the boat towards the ship, potentially trapping or capsizing it.
Oceanliners at the time is like today's bigtech company. They are super rich and very powerful. After the inquiry, nobody at the White Star Line company got convicted of anything because, you know, their influence and money.
@@nokaton Maybe that was the case, but in order to have someone convicted, the prosecution must prove that the person or company in question actually broke the law. The Titanic sank during the Golden Age of capitalism, when entire industries could get away with all sorts of abuses. The lack of lifeboats is a perfect example. Titanic carried the number of lifeboats mandated by the law, so no one could blame the WSL for the death of 1,500 people, who died because there were not enough lifeboats for everyone. Obviously, after the disaster the outcry was so great that governments had to enact laws and sign international conventions regulating all aspects of safety at sea. The sinking of the Titanic created such panic, that people refused to cross the Atlantic if there were not enough boats, so basically big corporations had to bow to the pressure of consumers and governments, meaning that they were not omnipotent.
@@S.Hunter279 It's not that easy, actually. Titanic had enough boats for the standards at that time. Titanic was constructed to withstand many kinds of damage, and in the case of a fatal damage which would lead to her sinking, other ships were counted on to come to rescue. Nobody thought that a large lateral damage leading to more than 4 chambers flooded would occur. And if, they still counted on other nearby ships to come by, as Titanic was constructed to sink for a longer period of time. Imagine if there were life boats for all of the passengers. The whole deck would have been filled just with the boats, occupying too much space. Accidents just tend to happen. Every accident reveals some deficiencies that need to be fixed for the next time.
@@michalreingraberskaliasmiz185 There was plenty of space on the boat deck for lifeboats. After the sinking, the regulations were changed so that boats would be available for every person on board a ship. If you wonder how Titanic would have looked like with enough boats, check out pictures of the Olympic post 1912.
Best part of this scene was getting to see more of that epic Chef and his genius to already be preparing for people ending up in the water to hopefully save lives. That tough bastid lasted 4 hours in the water and survived to tell his tales. Not to mention his ingenuity more than likely saved a few lives.
The man made that story up completely by himself. He wouldn't have lasted. He would've been killed. He was drunk and there is no one that supported that story. Within 20 minutes, he was pulled up on Collapsible B
Well, not arguing but it's odd I seen multiple surviving boat crews putting in their account that the man followed the boats for over an hour, until they repositioned people and he then had room to get on one of the boats.@@Firemarioflower I believe historical accountings of survivors more than you my friend. Lol
@@alanw2687 the acting is kinda poor and the i'm sure it interrupts with the pacing, the scene feels sluggish and unnecessary, u=you have to ask yourself what the point if this scene is?
Do you remember the last guy with jack and Rose who is on top on final time of sinking ....he actually survived drinking for three hours in that cold water.
He was also clinging to the stern where Jack and Rose would have been exactly as depicted in the film. According to his testimony, the ship did not have any "suction" that would threaten lifeboats. When the ship went under he just "stepped off" into the water.
one wire to tell them all one wire to call them one wire to bring them all and to our rescue bind them in the atlantic ocean, where the packice lies@@user-fu9gm2uz2k
no, the whiskey only allowed him to stay alive for half an hour at most, he survived because he swam to collapsible lifeboat B and got his upper body out of the water.
I don't think whiskey literally warms you. It makes you feel warm as a sensory illusion. Though the dulling of his nerves may have reduced the shock of the ice cold water from causing him to go into shock. Just being able to keep his head and hair dry would have significantly reduced heat loss which may be hard to do if you're cramping up from the shock of the cold.
@@Treblaine My understanding is that alcohol, by thinning the blood, causes more blood to reach extremities of the body, and that this is why it makes you feel warmer. But by doing this, it actually causes your body temperature to go down, not up! I would have expected alcohol, in this experience, to be a supremely bad idea. The body's natural reaction to extreme cold is the opposite - pull blood back toward the core to keep the core from freezing, even if at the expense of extremities.
@@9mmhobbes It's not your blood freezing that kills you. It could take the better part of a day for your blood to start freezing in that water (the freezing point of blood is actually about the same temperature as the water these people were submerged in). You die way sooner than that. Most people who fell into that water died very quickly. Ignoring the lucky ones that instantly broke their neck when their life vest slammed into them, most of them died of cold shock response and not hypothermia: they either immediately inhaled water (cold water immersion often causes involuntary hyperventilation) and drowned right away or died of cardiac arrest within minutes. Anyone unfortunate enough to not be wearing a life vest (and happened to not die of the first two things) likely sank beneath the surface when their arms and legs basically became paralyzed after their bodies diverted blood to their core and away from their limbs. As your body temperature lowers, certain life-sustaining chemical reactions occurring in your cells no longer proceed at the right rates and this is what actually causes you to die. Usually, your heart slows too much to deliver blood to the rest of the organs and they start shutting down. Alcohol actually makes dying of hypothermia easier (it makes you lose body heat faster by dilating your blood vessels and suppresses the shiver reflex), so I think this guy was just a tough son of a b***h.
I think they knew full well the "pulled down by the suction" was a euphemism. There had been many ship sinking in the past and few noted suction but many noted the swamping of any boats as so many survivors desperately tried to get out of the water.
Smith calls them fools but he’s the fool. Allowed Ismay to get into his head and go full ahead and then loses it when he realises the ship is going down(theatrically in this movie anyway) Hitchens in boat 6 has his critics but is he wrong about the boat being swamped? No one aside from Molly Brown spoke up, they knew if they wanted to live, they had to keep away from Titanic
I'm so glad they deleted certain scenes. After seeing the final edit, all these deleted scenes just feel out of place and that they would have ruined the movie.
I know it's messed up that he didn't go back, but he did point out the fact that the suction will pull them down if they get too close to the ship. Remember the scenes of people getting pulled in the broken windows outside the ship walls. That water would be strong enough to sink a life boat full of people by pulling them in. So, in a way, he made the smart choice.
The seaman in charge of boat 6, Quartermaster Hitchens, was the man at the helm when Titanic struck the iceberg. There are some reports online claiming that when William Murdoch ordered “hard-a-starboard,” a tiller command that actually means turn the ship to port, quartermaster Hitchens misunderstood the command and initially turned the ship to starboard before correcting this action. Some reports say that the iceberg was spotted in time to miss it but that Hitchens actions doomed the ship. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t but if it is true, it means the man who helped doom the ship is refusing the rescue more people. An interesting read nonetheless.
@Wanted797 Mythbusters tested it on a tiny ship that was not at a scale to be considered a reasonable comparison. I'm much more likely to trust the multitude of actual first hand accounts from people who lived through massive ships sinking. There are many through the years who have witnessed first hand people being sucked down and even a handful who were pulled under themselves and were lucky enough to survive
I know I'll get hate for saying this, but I think the Captain was the fool. He ignored the iceberg warnings and still went full steam ahead in the dark. Bruce Ismay was really at fault because he wanted to make new headlines. He didn't care about the crew or passengers.
Most people didn’t believe it was going to sink until it was far too late. Many more were lost, confused or forgotten about down below (contrary to the “behind locked gates” narrative). The reason most boats lowered so empty was that they couldn’t find people to fill them. Ismay only got in his after assisting loading to the point the deck was clear of people.
No, they were standing around waiting for instructions. ( There hadn't been a lifeboat drill) And the gym was the closest to the boats for that particular group. It was nearly freezing outside so they went in since it was warm.
@@hyper_tacoman1659 Any method would be risky, as when the front goes down, the suction could pull you down with it. But the best case scenario with a makeshift raft would certainly be to build it on the deck, toward the more slowly sinking bow, and let its downward motion essentially become a boat launch for you. But you'll have to row away without delay, as while the bow continued to drop, the water you just launched into would want to shift back toward the sinking wreck, pulling you back in with it. So, launch as close to the side as you can, and immediately row in that side direction. Best chance for success, most likely,... but still no guarantees at all.
How about tying together empty luggage/trunks? Seems like a no brainer. Dont worry, the water will rise to meet you one way or the other if you simply wait on deck.
@@DominionSorcerer and the captains duty was to not let this happen. Am I blaming smith? No. But as a human being you have to understand it wasn’t his job to die for the white star line. Captain Smith is traditionally obliged to go down with the ship. Doesn’t have to, it’s a tradition. There’s an inherent danger to traveling over seas.
I think it was established the mother was a total bitch by this point lol, she was practically pimping that daughter out to the richest bidder so they could maintain a wealthy lifestyle if you remember the film
Honestly, the man who was in charge of the six boat is right. He didn't want to take the risk of losing the boat. Also, he's keeping the passengers safe and himself.
But at this point titanic still had about a hour of life in her meaning boat six could have come back and gone back out quick enough without the finale pluge and pulling the lifeboat under
The reason I think it was good writing is because there was a time on Titanic where Captain Smith was still actively trying to make sure as much people got into boats before he eventually went quiet and vanished to the bridge.
I don't think that was in his mind at the time lol, when a sinking luxury liner is going down and you're still on it...there's only one perk in the world left open to you that will also help you cope with the situation... 😂
Yeah unlike Jack and rose he was a real man on the titanic though, the baker. He drank so much whiskey while the ship was sinking he was able to deal with the freezing cold water and tread water for 2 hours until he climbed upon a flipped lifeboat and was rescued.
Either First Officer William Murdoch (in charge of lowering Starboard boats), or Second Officer Charles Lightoller (in charge of lowering Port boats). Most likely Lightoller tho.
@@k1productions87 he was right about the suction and no one knows how long Titanic has left, so he could have possibly saved everyone on the lifeboat too
@@jimmychan9582 He would have been right about the suction if Titanic was already halfway underwater with its ass hanging up in the air. But with only its nose partially down, and both the Captain AND designer right there telling them to come back,... I think they know just a little bit more than this Junior Officer wanting to be a Captain. No, he wasn't thinking about anyone in that boat besides his own scared ass. Especially since he allowed the boat to be launched barely 1/3 full in the first place. Sorry, no, everything he did was wrong.
As an ex-naval officer, I can say that being sucked down by a sinking ship is rather a myth. We were all taught about this in the naval academy. If anything, lots of bubbles coming up in a froth as the ship exhales air trapped in it can reduce the density of the water mixed with the air and cause a lifeboat to momentarily sit lower in the water, but the lifeboat would have to be sitting right above the gush of air. Lifeboats, even then, had flotation chambers hence would have been safe in such circumstances.
@@bobvidoni5898 The only exception I can think of is the sinking of the Lusitania, where some passengers where sucked into the funnel when it became submerged and water surged into the funnels and boiler rooms.
Not sure about boat six but I can verify that cook throwing stuff over board. He was one of the survivors and survived by drinking. The numbness to cold allowed him to survive and swim his way back. A Chinese man survived due to a table floating in the water and it may very well have been one of the tables the cook through over board.
@@darthpepe2994 No, it wasn't, lifeboats not returning when called upon was absolutely something that happened though. And some lifeboats were basically empty, lifeboat 1 was the worst, launched with 12 instead of 40 passengers. Lifeboat 6, the one depicted here, with Molly Brown on board, was launched with 22 out of a capacity of 65. The baker (also a real person) who was throwing stuff overboard in this scene rode the stern of the titanic all the way into the water, luckily this suction idea is almost entirely a myth, and the man did in fact survive. Being held by someone on the side of the upside down collapsible A. He was probably the longest in the water of all the survivors. He later spotted another lifeboat and managed to swim towards it.
This scene wasn’t in the movie. The Captain was basically useless after the iceberg. He walked around in shock not helping. Just dazed and confused. Witnesses said he was helping but different accounts make it hard to know what really happened
@@gaynorpatterson2915 I have heard that he help in some things, the story about him calling boat 6 was true and the person in charge of but 6, disobeyed the order, think in saving the boat,
Because you are on a boat built for 65, rowing away with only 12-20, purposefully leaving at least 40 more people behind to die. There are maritime laws that require Captain's to render aid when a call of distress is received. The Captain of the Titanic in this moment is clearly calling for distress, and the "captain" of the lifeboat is clearly capable of returning and taking aboard more passengers. The so-called "captain" of this lifeboat should be charged with the same neglect an ocean liner captain would be charged with for deliberately ignoring a distress signal. The Californian may have had circumstances in their neglect, but this lifeboat absolutely did not.
@@k1productions87 The captain of the lifeboat has to consider the lives of those on his boat too. Take on more people and you decrease their chances. I would row away, and if ever questioned about it I would deny ever hearing distress calls. In fact I would say the only thing I heard was revelry from the ship.
@@moonbeamskies3346 20 or so in a boat built for 65? No, that is pure negligence in every sense of the word. You could claim an ocean liner captain has to "consider the lives of those on his boat too", and yet he is obligated to answer distress calls. What makes an unfilled lifeboat any different, especially when launching with such a low number of people was due to negligence in its own right? So, you would life, to save your own ass, while other people were dying, even though you were in no immediate danger and you could have saved more of them? If you could sleep at night after all this, then I don't wanna even be on the same OCEAN as you, much less the same boat.
@@k1productions87 Actually once that boat hit the water and rowed away it couldn't go back, he was right about the suction of the ship. The Titanic Captain in this case was trying to remedy a mistake he'd made that could not be unmade, the lifeboat captain might have come across like an aggressive and selfish asshole in this scene, but he was still right not to go back at that moment while the ship was sinking and creating suction. Lifeboats did eventually go back to look for survivors after it sank and people in the water were less panicky as it was safer by then which was the correct thing to do, even though most in the water unfortunately died by that point
Apparently, it is known from many survivors that discipline quickly broke down within the first half hour and that it soon became a free-for-all, and all that women-and-children-first thing fell by the wayside quite quickly. Of course, most of the lower classes were trapped below decks.
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RIP Bernard Hill
Great actor he was
And he looked like him even before he did titanic
I’m Sorry For Your Loss
For those wondering, Captain Smith was calling them back because they were only half filled. He attempted to recall those boats so they could be completely filled.
Why the hell were they allowed to leave in the first place if they were half full??
@@tavare1163 When the incident first happened and the first boats were launched many passengers thought that there was no way the ship was going to sink so preferred to stay on the ship rather than row around in the cold on a small lifeboat. I only know this because I watched an interview with a crew member remembering the incidents recorded in 1970 yesterday.
@@tavare1163 Some stewards intepreted their orders as women and children and not women and children, with no more around they lowered the boats. Other boats were filled with men once women and children were on.
Officer Murdoch filled his boats. Officer Lighttoller interpreted the Captain’s order of “Women and children first” as Women and children only and launched his half full.
@@tavare1163Most survivors had no idea the ship was even sinking. One said that she thought that's how it was done for 3rd class passengers. That they got brought to the city by rowboat. Others were scared of loading while it was 70 feet above the ocean.
RIP to the actor playing the captain who passed away yesterday
Bernard Hill.
}:‑)
@@FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort Yes
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Nobody can replace him.
@@FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort Great guy
I think this scene should have made it to the movie. It actually adds a lot of information.
No doubt it was scrapped for some stupid scene that offered nothing!
It’s almost the same as the other seen of this boat, you can tell they recorded this scene because the sailor acted like brown said this before though.@@chazzas3469
Nah, it's much tighter with how they cut it. It tells the same story, Molly wanted to go back because there was space on the boat, there's no need for the captain to be calling them back too. The way it was cut in the end made everything feel more urgent, less farcical.
not nessisarly scrapped for a stupid scene, just scrapped because of how long the movie would be@@chazzas3469
Agree
Every moment deleted with Astor I find, I really find the man quite admirable.
I wish Cameron would pull a Bergman and recut Titanic as a three part miniseries and restore most of the deleted material.
I would be able to watch the entire movie even if it would be 4 hours long. It’s a shame that they didn’t add some scenes like this
@@stefanpendic2150 dam right. I would watch a 5 hour extended version of Titanic
@@matthewchen3678 I know Tarantino did it for Hateful 8 and has talked about doing it for Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood. Outside of the editing and Cameron's time with Pandora, I would think the biggest obstacle is the fact if hypothetical miniseries happened, it's 30 years since the release and James Horner will have been gone in half that time and how much unused material from the scoring sessions is left so they can keep the legacy intact.
@@Sockimusthe thing is James Cameron movies are actually good.
Even adding some footage that was only seen in TItanic Explorer (history computer game from the 90s).
The baker who was drinking at the end survived in the water because he consumed so much alcohol
He really did spend time throwing chairs over board. A Chinese man survives the sinking because he was able to balance with his hand and feet on one of the chairs. God bless both of those brave survivors who managed endure the unimaginable. Charles Joughans account of climbing the rails all the way to the stern as it sank gives me shudders. You can briefly see him climbing in the movie.
He downed that bottle like a champ 😅😅😅
If your ship is sinking and the water is cold drink alcohol ;)
@@RonjayYTc it's indeed funny he survived but normally your body loses more heat when you drink so, not advisable
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This scene should have been in the movie.. it adds to the character of Captain EJ Smith.
rest in peace Captain Edward John Smith
To all those mentioning the suction. They do not mean suction as in boat gets pulled under water, following the sinking ship. The suction they can experience is the one when ship's air is rapidly replaced by ingress of water through windows, vents, doors and all sorts of openings. People have been sucked back into the ship. There is a potential risk of a boat getting trapped by such ingress of water , simply pulling the boat towards the ship, potentially trapping or capsizing it.
I would also add, that the saturated water with air bubbles would cause floating objects to lose buoyancy.
That sailor should have been put on trial after the sinking. Disobeying an order from the captain is mutiny.
that had inquests after and I am surprised he was not held accountable ...
Oceanliners at the time is like today's bigtech company. They are super rich and very powerful. After the inquiry, nobody at the White Star Line company got convicted of anything because, you know, their influence and money.
@@nokaton Maybe that was the case, but in order to have someone convicted, the prosecution must prove that the person or company in question actually broke the law. The Titanic sank during the Golden Age of capitalism, when entire industries could get away with all sorts of abuses. The lack of lifeboats is a perfect example. Titanic carried the number of lifeboats mandated by the law, so no one could blame the WSL for the death of 1,500 people, who died because there were not enough lifeboats for everyone. Obviously, after the disaster the outcry was so great that governments had to enact laws and sign international conventions regulating all aspects of safety at sea. The sinking of the Titanic created such panic, that people refused to cross the Atlantic if there were not enough boats, so basically big corporations had to bow to the pressure of consumers and governments, meaning that they were not omnipotent.
@@S.Hunter279 It's not that easy, actually. Titanic had enough boats for the standards at that time. Titanic was constructed to withstand many kinds of damage, and in the case of a fatal damage which would lead to her sinking, other ships were counted on to come to rescue. Nobody thought that a large lateral damage leading to more than 4 chambers flooded would occur. And if, they still counted on other nearby ships to come by, as Titanic was constructed to sink for a longer period of time. Imagine if there were life boats for all of the passengers. The whole deck would have been filled just with the boats, occupying too much space. Accidents just tend to happen. Every accident reveals some deficiencies that need to be fixed for the next time.
@@michalreingraberskaliasmiz185 There was plenty of space on the boat deck for lifeboats. After the sinking, the regulations were changed so that boats would be available for every person on board a ship. If you wonder how Titanic would have looked like with enough boats, check out pictures of the Olympic post 1912.
Best part of this scene was getting to see more of that epic Chef and his genius to already be preparing for people ending up in the water to hopefully save lives. That tough bastid lasted 4 hours in the water and survived to tell his tales. Not to mention his ingenuity more than likely saved a few lives.
It's surprising no distillers have bothered to find out if it was thier whisky, whiskey, bourbon or whatever. It would make great promo material.
Not to mention he made sure he had the most invaluable resource on the entire ship w/ him at all times.....BOOZE!
Lol absolutely!@@cgh7337
The man made that story up completely by himself. He wouldn't have lasted. He would've been killed. He was drunk and there is no one that supported that story. Within 20 minutes, he was pulled up on Collapsible B
Well, not arguing but it's odd I seen multiple surviving boat crews putting in their account that the man followed the boats for over an hour, until they repositioned people and he then had room to get on one of the boats.@@Firemarioflower I believe historical accountings of survivors more than you my friend. Lol
The best deleted scene.
I agree, I wonder why it was deleted
@@alanw2687 it was on documentary.
@@alanw2687 the acting is kinda poor and the i'm sure it interrupts with the pacing, the scene feels sluggish and unnecessary, u=you have to ask yourself what the point if this scene is?
If your ships a sinkin, start drinkin.
Do you remember the last guy with jack and Rose who is on top on final time of sinking ....he actually survived drinking for three hours in that cold water.
the baker! I felt that chug of liquor at the end, as a ex drinker I definitely felt that. i’m happy he survived 🙂
He was also clinging to the stern where Jack and Rose would have been exactly as depicted in the film. According to his testimony, the ship did not have any "suction" that would threaten lifeboats. When the ship went under he just "stepped off" into the water.
@@johns8364 From what I have read, as he stepped off, he didn't even get his head wet!
Where was Boat six when Titanic sinked.
Where was Boat six when ocean closed in around us?
Quality comment😂
The Carpathia will answer the call.
For Leo.
one wire to tell them all
one wire to call them
one wire to bring them all
and to our rescue bind them
in the atlantic ocean, where the packice lies@@user-fu9gm2uz2k
Lmao I'm so glad someone put this in the comments
RIP Bernard hill
For ppl who don't know at 2:11 that chef survived 3-4 in the sea...how? He had that much whiskey in him it kept him warm 😂
no, the whiskey only allowed him to stay alive for half an hour at most, he survived because he swam to collapsible lifeboat B and got his upper body out of the water.
@@adam.scammellhe was in the water for two hours.
ethanol lowers the freezing temp of almost any liquid.
I don't think whiskey literally warms you. It makes you feel warm as a sensory illusion. Though the dulling of his nerves may have reduced the shock of the ice cold water from causing him to go into shock. Just being able to keep his head and hair dry would have significantly reduced heat loss which may be hard to do if you're cramping up from the shock of the cold.
@@Treblaine My understanding is that alcohol, by thinning the blood, causes more blood to reach extremities of the body, and that this is why it makes you feel warmer. But by doing this, it actually causes your body temperature to go down, not up! I would have expected alcohol, in this experience, to be a supremely bad idea. The body's natural reaction to extreme cold is the opposite - pull blood back toward the core to keep the core from freezing, even if at the expense of extremities.
@@9mmhobbes It's not your blood freezing that kills you. It could take the better part of a day for your blood to start freezing in that water (the freezing point of blood is actually about the same temperature as the water these people were submerged in). You die way sooner than that. Most people who fell into that water died very quickly. Ignoring the lucky ones that instantly broke their neck when their life vest slammed into them, most of them died of cold shock response and not hypothermia: they either immediately inhaled water (cold water immersion often causes involuntary hyperventilation) and drowned right away or died of cardiac arrest within minutes. Anyone unfortunate enough to not be wearing a life vest (and happened to not die of the first two things) likely sank beneath the surface when their arms and legs basically became paralyzed after their bodies diverted blood to their core and away from their limbs. As your body temperature lowers, certain life-sustaining chemical reactions occurring in your cells no longer proceed at the right rates and this is what actually causes you to die. Usually, your heart slows too much to deliver blood to the rest of the organs and they start shutting down. Alcohol actually makes dying of hypothermia easier (it makes you lose body heat faster by dilating your blood vessels and suppresses the shiver reflex), so I think this guy was just a tough son of a b***h.
The chef did survived the sinking as one of very few strong. He did had a plan.
Cathy Bates one great actor !
Actress
Actress!
Rest in peace Bernard😢
I think they knew full well the "pulled down by the suction" was a euphemism. There had been many ship sinking in the past and few noted suction but many noted the swamping of any boats as so many survivors desperately tried to get out of the water.
Its not actual suction its the air escaping from the sinking ship fills the water with bubbles making it less heavy therefore less buoyant.
What can man do against such reckless hate?
Forth Eorli- wrong movie
If he had a few archers he could have shot that orc on the lifeboat yelling at people.
Eric Braden is as sharp here as he is back in Genoa City. Wish they hadn't took this scene out....
Boat six's officer glanced at Captain Smith and said "Look at me. I'm the captain now"
Smith calls them fools but he’s the fool. Allowed Ismay to get into his head and go full ahead and then loses it when he realises the ship is going down(theatrically in this movie anyway) Hitchens in boat 6 has his critics but is he wrong about the boat being swamped? No one aside from Molly Brown spoke up, they knew if they wanted to live, they had to keep away from Titanic
He’s the captain of this ship now, he’s no longer affiliated with the big one
This is my fav Deleted Scene
my favorite part
I'm so glad they deleted certain scenes. After seeing the final edit, all these deleted scenes just feel out of place and that they would have ruined the movie.
I know it's messed up that he didn't go back, but he did point out the fact that the suction will pull them down if they get too close to the ship. Remember the scenes of people getting pulled in the broken windows outside the ship walls. That water would be strong enough to sink a life boat full of people by pulling them in. So, in a way, he made the smart choice.
No, he literally didn’t.
@@project182r3 yes he did
The seaman in charge of boat 6, Quartermaster Hitchens, was the man at the helm when Titanic struck the iceberg. There are some reports online claiming that when William Murdoch ordered “hard-a-starboard,” a tiller command that actually means turn the ship to port, quartermaster Hitchens misunderstood the command and initially turned the ship to starboard before correcting this action. Some reports say that the iceberg was spotted in time to miss it but that Hitchens actions doomed the ship. Maybe it’s true, maybe it isn’t but if it is true, it means the man who helped doom the ship is refusing the rescue more people. An interesting read nonetheless.
Myth busters tested this. Suction is not a threat.
People swamping the boat however. Is.
@Wanted797 Mythbusters tested it on a tiny ship that was not at a scale to be considered a reasonable comparison. I'm much more likely to trust the multitude of actual first hand accounts from people who lived through massive ships sinking. There are many through the years who have witnessed first hand people being sucked down and even a handful who were pulled under themselves and were lucky enough to survive
I wish if jack wud have drunk alcohol but he was too busy spending quality time of his life with rose
I think if he didnt meet her he would have survived
@@moonspeech82 but that's what true love is all about he could have easily abondoned her and escaped
@@MuhammadWaqas-ti9vi True love? He knew her for all of 2 days bruh 😂 I don't even think he knew her second name!!
@@darthpepe2994 that's what true love is without knowing each other true definition is
I wish that scene was in the movie
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They deleted a lot of very important scenes here. This one and Ismay being told off by whats his name sticking out
I am the Captain Now
I know I'll get hate for saying this, but I think the Captain was the fool. He ignored the iceberg warnings and still went full steam ahead in the dark. Bruce Ismay was really at fault because he wanted to make new headlines. He didn't care about the crew or passengers.
Ioan Gruffudd…. I wish he had a larger role in the movie…. Daaang
Wait a minute, you mean there were passengers exercising in the fitness room, while the ship was sinking???
Probably. I'm pretty sure a lot of people didn't think it would actually sink. They assumed it would stop sinking at some point.
Most people didn’t believe it was going to sink until it was far too late. Many more were lost, confused or forgotten about down below (contrary to the “behind locked gates” narrative). The reason most boats lowered so empty was that they couldn’t find people to fill them. Ismay only got in his after assisting loading to the point the deck was clear of people.
No, they were standing around waiting for instructions. ( There hadn't been a lifeboat drill) And the gym was the closest to the boats for that particular group. It was nearly freezing outside so they went in since it was warm.
Boat 6 should have returned. There was enough time to get more passengers. It wouldn’t have taken more than 15 minutes to get back.
We know that but back then they didn't. Seems like he was scared for his life.
It wasn't the time needed to return. It was the likely event that they would have been swamped by panicked passengers.
Is that whistle man the same guy who's whistle was blew by Rose at the end to get the boat??
Chief officer henry wilde, the chances are he was the man who shot himself
Yes, it's Chief Officer Wilde, the same man who's whistle Rose uses to call for help after the ship has sunk.
@@mazc1358 yeah even though he was already dead on the ship irl
@@mazc1358Is Wilde higher ranked officer than Murdock and Lightholler or he is beneath them in the ship hierarchy?
@@ivankamarelj3542 to the best of my knowledge as Chief Officer he only the Captain above him; all the other officers were junior to him.
I wouldn't have thought there was a lot of danger of being pulled down by the suction at that point. However, if i was actually there......
I would have been building a raft with anything I could have found. But not sure how I get it in the water and down to it lol
Why not try using the front of the ship?
@@hyper_tacoman1659 Any method would be risky, as when the front goes down, the suction could pull you down with it. But the best case scenario with a makeshift raft would certainly be to build it on the deck, toward the more slowly sinking bow, and let its downward motion essentially become a boat launch for you. But you'll have to row away without delay, as while the bow continued to drop, the water you just launched into would want to shift back toward the sinking wreck, pulling you back in with it. So, launch as close to the side as you can, and immediately row in that side direction.
Best chance for success, most likely,... but still no guarantees at all.
How about tying together empty luggage/trunks? Seems like a no brainer. Dont worry, the water will rise to meet you one way or the other if you simply wait on deck.
He was chucking rafts overboard in this very clip. Just forgot to attach life-jackets.
every second of this is good even when it shows the ppl in the gym lol what a cruel cut from the film
I wouldn’t have went back either.
Coward
Did you know the man who pin wheeled off the propeller blade actually was a thing.
There are lots of myths around the propellerguy. Some people say he was a superhero with propellerpower.
I kno morons are a thing, and licensed breeding, sadly is not.
That was Bill Burr, didn't you know?
everyone should've done what the chef did. drink a lot of whiskey lol
1:24 - This is the Captain! This is the CAPTAIN!! COME BACK to the ship!!
who give a fuck in this kind of situation btw......
surprised he didn't face consequences in the inquests after
you’d want to punish a man for saving himself?
@@jacobeestrickland8235 for ignoring the orders of the captain while on duty
@@xsydor26 Except his job was to keep his boat and it’s passengers safe.
it’s not about duty at that point, it’s about surviving.
@@jacobeestrickland8235 his duty and job is to obey his captain.
@@DominionSorcerer and the captains duty was to not let this happen.
Am I blaming smith?
No.
But as a human being you have to understand it wasn’t his job to die for the white star line.
Captain Smith is traditionally obliged to go down with the ship.
Doesn’t have to, it’s a tradition.
There’s an inherent danger to traveling over seas.
Her daughter is on the ship and she just sat there quietly. smh
I think it was established the mother was a total bitch by this point lol, she was practically pimping that daughter out to the richest bidder so they could maintain a wealthy lifestyle if you remember the film
Honestly, the man who was in charge of the six boat is right. He didn't want to take the risk of losing the boat.
Also, he's keeping the passengers safe and himself.
But at this point titanic still had about a hour of life in her meaning boat six could have come back and gone back out quick enough without the finale pluge and pulling the lifeboat under
but at the time nobody knew how long she would stay afloat hindsight @@SwiftXYT
@@SwiftXYTeasier said than done
Easier done than not done @@AyyItsNovak
@@SwiftXYT But the captain didn't say it,he only asked boat six to come back, didn't say he Titanic still has an hour left and it's ok to come back 😆
Can’t put my finger on it but the captain saying “the fools” wasn’t very good writing. Would have been better not to have said anything.
I think it was good.
The reason I think it was good writing is because there was a time on Titanic where Captain Smith was still actively trying to make sure as much people got into boats before he eventually went quiet and vanished to the bridge.
The Boat Six Guy is now in hell.
Robert hictchsons and he was behind the wheel when they hit the iceberg. He was also done for attempted murder a few years later
Don’t act like you would go back either
drinking all the alcohol lowered the guys' blood temp, and also lowered the freezing temperature of his blood. the baker was one smart cookie.
get it?
I don't think that was in his mind at the time lol, when a sinking luxury liner is going down and you're still on it...there's only one perk in the world left open to you that will also help you cope with the situation... 😂
For the context of this scene I feel like Captain Smith could have used a better insult like maybe Cads.
what do you mean sir?
I can understand why the scene was deleted..
1:33 "The Fools" Ye
2:09 Wasn't that the same guy who was hanging off the stern w/ Jack & Rose? Damn, how many handles of booze was that guy packing?
Yeah unlike Jack and rose he was a real man on the titanic though, the baker. He drank so much whiskey while the ship was sinking he was able to deal with the freezing cold water and tread water for 2 hours until he climbed upon a flipped lifeboat and was rescued.
This scene was deleted? I watched this movie last night on Netflix and this scene was in the movie I saw.
Maybe, after all this time, you definitely saw it?
Did you notice that there were no waves ?
at 0:48 epic roblox shipwreck moment
That captain was very weak unfortunately
I want to be friends with Mr Macauley. I like the cut of his jib
Well at least no rose and jack.
Is 1:59 Charles John Joughin?
Who was in charge of the boats loaded half full?
Either First Officer William Murdoch (in charge of lowering Starboard boats), or Second Officer Charles Lightoller (in charge of lowering Port boats). Most likely Lightoller tho.
come on pull
"Row row row yourboat ...... "
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Once his boat departs the main ship, he becomes a captain in his own right and no longer has to obey.
"Look at me. I am the captain now."
And as Captain, he is willfully and purposefully leaving people behind to die.
@@k1productions87 he was right about the suction and no one knows how long Titanic has left, so he could have possibly saved everyone on the lifeboat too
@@jimmychan9582 He would have been right about the suction if Titanic was already halfway underwater with its ass hanging up in the air. But with only its nose partially down, and both the Captain AND designer right there telling them to come back,... I think they know just a little bit more than this Junior Officer wanting to be a Captain.
No, he wasn't thinking about anyone in that boat besides his own scared ass. Especially since he allowed the boat to be launched barely 1/3 full in the first place.
Sorry, no, everything he did was wrong.
Yeah he's in his own right to be a coward indeed.
this comes to show how Titanic Is masterfully edited, this scene was not necessary at all
I hope the one who refused to go back lost his job
you dont understand....if he goes back, maby it would be chaos and every1 want to go in boat....he wanted to secure the boat and people on board....
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Why did the women have to row while the honorable officer is resting and just shouting "row" all the time!??
Uh, why exactly do they have to row? Like, where would they actually be going?!
Far enough away from the ship that they don’t get sucked down, or risk getting swamped by survivors in the water.
As an ex-naval officer, I can say that being sucked down by a sinking ship is rather a myth. We were all taught about this in the naval academy. If anything, lots of bubbles coming up in a froth as the ship exhales air trapped in it can reduce the density of the water mixed with the air and cause a lifeboat to momentarily sit lower in the water, but the lifeboat would have to be sitting right above the gush of air. Lifeboats, even then, had flotation chambers hence would have been safe in such circumstances.
@@bobvidoni5898 The only exception I can think of is the sinking of the Lusitania, where some passengers where sucked into the funnel when it became submerged and water surged into the funnels and boiler rooms.
NOW ROOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!!! 1:15
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If its a true story it should have been in the movie.
Not sure about boat six but I can verify that cook throwing stuff over board. He was one of the survivors and survived by drinking. The numbness to cold allowed him to survive and swim his way back. A Chinese man survived due to a table floating in the water and it may very well have been one of the tables the cook through over board.
@@Dark_Tale Wow cool story bro
The romance story in this movie wasn't even true lol!!
@@darthpepe2994 No, it wasn't, lifeboats not returning when called upon was absolutely something that happened though. And some lifeboats were basically empty, lifeboat 1 was the worst, launched with 12 instead of 40 passengers. Lifeboat 6, the one depicted here, with Molly Brown on board, was launched with 22 out of a capacity of 65.
The baker (also a real person) who was throwing stuff overboard in this scene rode the stern of the titanic all the way into the water, luckily this suction idea is almost entirely a myth, and the man did in fact survive. Being held by someone on the side of the upside down collapsible A. He was probably the longest in the water of all the survivors. He later spotted another lifeboat and managed to swim towards it.
Go back 🤬🤬🚢🚢
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I can see why it was a deleted scene, it was crappy.
It's not deleted ..
This scene wasn’t in the movie. The Captain was basically useless after the iceberg. He walked around in shock not helping. Just dazed and confused. Witnesses said he was helping but different accounts make it hard to know what really happened
@@gaynorpatterson2915 I have heard that he help in some things, the story about him calling boat 6 was true and the person in charge of but 6, disobeyed the order, think in saving the boat,
🤣🤣 what a funny scene in real titanic it not like that
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Why would anybody go back to a sinking ship when he is on a lifeboat? I would keep rowing, stopping only to give middle finger to the ship.
Because you are on a boat built for 65, rowing away with only 12-20, purposefully leaving at least 40 more people behind to die.
There are maritime laws that require Captain's to render aid when a call of distress is received. The Captain of the Titanic in this moment is clearly calling for distress, and the "captain" of the lifeboat is clearly capable of returning and taking aboard more passengers.
The so-called "captain" of this lifeboat should be charged with the same neglect an ocean liner captain would be charged with for deliberately ignoring a distress signal. The Californian may have had circumstances in their neglect, but this lifeboat absolutely did not.
@@k1productions87 The captain of the lifeboat has to consider the lives of those on his boat too. Take on more people and you decrease their chances. I would row away, and if ever questioned about it I would deny ever hearing distress calls. In fact I would say the only thing I heard was revelry from the ship.
@@moonbeamskies3346 20 or so in a boat built for 65? No, that is pure negligence in every sense of the word.
You could claim an ocean liner captain has to "consider the lives of those on his boat too", and yet he is obligated to answer distress calls. What makes an unfilled lifeboat any different, especially when launching with such a low number of people was due to negligence in its own right?
So, you would life, to save your own ass, while other people were dying, even though you were in no immediate danger and you could have saved more of them?
If you could sleep at night after all this, then I don't wanna even be on the same OCEAN as you, much less the same boat.
@@k1productions87 Actually once that boat hit the water and rowed away it couldn't go back, he was right about the suction of the ship. The Titanic Captain in this case was trying to remedy a mistake he'd made that could not be unmade, the lifeboat captain might have come across like an aggressive and selfish asshole in this scene, but he was still right not to go back at that moment while the ship was sinking and creating suction. Lifeboats did eventually go back to look for survivors after it sank and people in the water were less panicky as it was safer by then which was the correct thing to do, even though most in the water unfortunately died by that point
@@darthpepe2994 the suction wasn't a thing for another hour yet, at that point
They should've put men and children only
Okay tender foot, everyone make way for the delicate flower who thinks he's too good to wait his turn.
Yeah equal rights and that
This scene sucked woulda ruined the movie for sure, pretty bad acting.
Stupid that OLD women got to be saved while YOUNG men had to die.
Apparently, it is known from many survivors that discipline quickly broke down within the first half hour and that it soon became a free-for-all, and all that women-and-children-first thing fell by the wayside quite quickly. Of course, most of the lower classes were trapped below decks.
RIP Bernard Hill