*Dealing with winds up to 50 knots? Let me know what is the strongest wind you've encountered in your life as a pilot or in the simulator. Did you land?*
I landed a Cessna 172 with 49 knot crosswind on infinite flight... meanwhile these airliners are doing go-arounds? Meh, I guess it's why it's called a simulator, not real life :P
2 years later i just realised I was PM on CX632. fun approach.We went around just above 1000' so way before minima. Turbulence were the main issue coming down. Before the video started all aircraft were in holding south of the airfield. Then a Royal Brunei (i think) got in an everyone gave it a go. the weather radar on turbulence mode over the missed approach area were purple (servere) thats why we asked for a heading of 090. We then diverted to Hanoi.
I so enjoyed listening to that ATControll,he was so clear and precise with his instructions,If there hadn't been subtitles I would still have known what he was saying,very good and Thankyou VASAviation.
I remember that day, I did not have to go to work due to the storm, and I had a drive just after the storm had passed. We have not had such a powerful typhoon for a while.
well i am asking the top one and for a guy living in Hong Kong i am kind of happy that if something goes wrong it is not slam the plane at Manhattan but in the same time much harder plane spotting although i see is windshear problem is not really fixed becuase the new airport is from a big open area and while kaitak is surrounded by rocks and the harbour
The decision to land is up to the pilot in this kind of weather. Short of an emergency at the airport that blocks the usage of the runway, the airport can remain open in a typhoon.
Here are the flights that go around CPA616 from Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi JAI76 from Mumbai CRK617 from Osaka-Kansai CPA632 from Chennai NSC45 from (unknown) MGL297 from Ulaanbaatar CRK453 from Chengdu CPA738 from Dubai
...and this is why pilots get paid the way they do, and why it is so important for them to have adequate days off at home. It's not an office job, will never be another 9 to 5 no matter how much the bean counters want it to be.
VASAviation! Were you able to to retrieve the bit where the KLM flight had successfully landed?? The KLM 747 was the only flight that was able to land during that time and it was on the local news!
I was taking a flight from MNL to HKG the day before the HKO annoused the typhoon signal no.8 and when i was landing it is already signal no.3 and the capten sai may dievere to Macau Problem isacau is not recoverd yet from the last typhoon Sad for guys land at that day
a Gust is a brief increase in the wind speed only lasting about 2-3 seconds 26kts is the mean speed without a gust that I just explained then a lull is a brief decrease in the speed of wind once again only about 2-3 seconds hope that helped
so what its a small breeze :) i encountered a 156 knot tailwind over the atlantic. to be fair its different when ur landing XD Kudos to anyone who could land there.
The problem is HKIA is that the airport was built with a mountain on one of its side, if the wind blow off the mountain is strong enough, it can cause last-second wind sheer that cause problem on landing, there had been planes that crash landed (I think its a Air China flight during similar circumstance) because of change in wind sheer. And the direction of the wind (if blowing from the north) will blow the wind right into the mountain and rebound onto the runway.
It means you can anticipate a drop of 25 KIAS on approach to landing phase. (Decreased performance, loss altitude, stalls...) Simply put, the wind is significantly "slower" at lower altitudes. Note: Wind speed might be the same but is caused by a shift in wind direction.
Oh okay :) I figured that less wind on the ground would be better in circumstances like these, thats why the question popped up that it might be the other way round. i didnt think about stalls etc. thanks for clearing that up :) so i guess the procedure would be to shoot the approach 25 knots faster than you normaly would? (im not a pilot. i know a lot by now but only know the stuff i learned on channels like mraviation101 and others. i do want to get my PPL(A) soon though!)
Well, generally you would increase your approach speed depending on the gust factor. Wind-shear is too instantaneous to predict or pre-config for. You'll have to work your throttles like a violin in these conditions. I wouldn't worry about this kind of "higher level" information. Different airlines have different SOPs anyways. Focus on the fundamentals. CZcams is nice but isn't a substitute for good old fashion book(PDF) crunching. There are tons of free publications out there.
In a simulator? If the wind is straight from the front or smoth you may land as long as the airplane is able to fly a little bit faster. It's a little crazy to "fly" in one place above the ground and to put a plane straight down but it works. The wind gradient is a little bit challanging. Gusting is unlandable (I wouldn't dare to try).
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*Dealing with winds up to 50 knots? Let me know what is the strongest wind you've encountered in your life as a pilot or in the simulator. Did you land?*
I landed a Cessna 172 with 49 knot crosswind on infinite flight... meanwhile these airliners are doing go-arounds? Meh, I guess it's why it's called a simulator, not real life :P
In Birmingham and in Dublin during Ophelia... Bhx between 10-20 and du b35-50. Both were save and smooth landings
16020G29KT Going down runway 6R in a 172
40 knots on an island, we couldnt land - c 172 rg
oh yeh a320 simulater ！just try crosswind 60kt direct law！landing…………
2 years later i just realised I was PM on CX632. fun approach.We went around just above 1000' so way before minima. Turbulence were the main issue coming down. Before the video started all aircraft were in holding south of the airfield. Then a Royal Brunei (i think) got in an everyone gave it a go. the weather radar on turbulence mode over the missed approach area were purple (servere) thats why we asked for a heading of 090. We then diverted to Hanoi.
As a guy living in HK, I can tell you it’s a really severe storm
Raymond Leung You damn right
Agreed. It was a truly crazy week where 2 storms came within a week
Yep, I had 2 cracked window at home
2 storms within a week apart? that's crazy
Severe turbulence & windshear warning....continue approach. Lol.
welcome to hong kong, the airport is basically always on a windshear warning cos of the terrain arround it
The controller was probably relieved that none of the pilots attempted to land... until the China Airlines 777 pilots decided to give it a go....
the ATC must be thinking you again lol like the accident at 1999 and it just not China airline on paper only
I so enjoyed listening to that ATControll,he was so clear and precise with his instructions,If there hadn't been subtitles I would still have known what he was saying,very good and Thankyou VASAviation.
Agnes T Same here! Didn‘t expect this from Hong Kong. The english of many chinese airlines is horrible and barely understandable
Gummel Yes he was very good to listen to.
Nicky L Idk i suppose i was referring to chinese airlines as a comparison
thx for showing vhhh atc ,hopefully there will be more vhhh atc in the future,love this channel !
Thank you, Billy.
Hong Konger here
Hey there!
me too
I was waiting for a successful landing throughout the video
So was i. I kept thinking if one pilot is gonna manage to land he gotta feel like a boss 💪🏻
I remember that day, I did not have to go to work due to the storm, and I had a drive just after the storm had passed. We have not had such a powerful typhoon for a while.
Typhoon Mangkhut - "let me introduce myself"
xD
Atc very good understandable
LOL! I could watch this all day :D liked a lot!
What can you say. VHHH. The only one challenging crosswind to have had so far.
What was even the point in having the airport open...
IRLAviation This location is already way better than the one before in Kai Tak
you mean in typhoon or normal?
In both
well i am asking the top one and for a guy living in Hong Kong i am kind of happy that if something goes wrong it is not slam the plane at Manhattan but in the same time much harder plane spotting although i see is windshear problem is not really fixed becuase the new airport is from a big open area and while kaitak is surrounded by rocks and the harbour
The decision to land is up to the pilot in this kind of weather. Short of an emergency at the airport that blocks the usage of the runway, the airport can remain open in a typhoon.
Here are the flights that go around
CPA616 from Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi
JAI76 from Mumbai
CRK617 from Osaka-Kansai
CPA632 from Chennai
NSC45 from (unknown)
MGL297 from Ulaanbaatar
CRK453 from Chengdu
CPA738 from Dubai
...and this is why pilots get paid the way they do, and why it is so important for them to have adequate days off at home. It's not an office job, will never be another 9 to 5 no matter how much the bean counters want it to be.
Props to those pilots for keeping their passengers safe.
VASAviation! Were you able to to retrieve the bit where the KLM flight had successfully landed?? The KLM 747 was the only flight that was able to land during that time and it was on the local news!
Awesome graphic overlay VAS. Your videos are phenomenal.
Thank you! :D
May i ask where to find those charts like the background in the video?
Nice video! (BTW there is a spelling mistake at 5:38 on moderate )
Believe that it's "RESCUE 45" with the female pilot.
Rescue 45?... That's strange.
"Rescue 45" This call sign is using in VHHH, because VHHH Government Flying Service is using CL60 to Search and rescue, transporting the wounded
thanks for the great video!! do more of vhhh its a great airport
I have some from VHHH on the queue :)
@@VASAviation yeee it always feels weird seeing the airport u grew up using being so famous
Get some EVA pilots up there. They'll land those planes in any condition :P
XPoChangLinX Their pilots repping our country out there!
I was being sarcastic... I'd rather they stay at home and be safe.
XPoChangLinX No is China airline remebered CI642
No... Not CI642. They CRASHED! CI is much more conservative compared with EVA in the last few typhoons it Taiwan.
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What software do you use.
I was taking a flight from MNL to HKG the day before the HKO annoused the typhoon signal no.8 and when i was landing it is already signal no.3 and the capten sai may dievere to Macau
Problem isacau is not recoverd yet from the last typhoon
Sad for guys land at that day
oh wow.thats why i hear a lot of PLANE SOUND WHILE I AM IN SCHOOL BECAUSE I AM A HONG KONGER
I'm not gonna bother counting how many times the tower said that one was cleared to land on 07L
Hey Man. there was an emergency inbound into Laguardia. Southwest 1899
Thanks for the info.
Where did the airplanes head after the missed approach?
Who would even try to land in that. Love the question anyone land recently, not successfully. I added the last part to add humor.
What does gusting mean if the the wind is 26 knots gusting 36 knots?
a Gust is a brief increase in the wind speed only lasting about 2-3 seconds 26kts is the mean speed without a gust that I just explained then a lull is a brief decrease in the speed of wind once again only about 2-3 seconds hope that helped
IT means theres a stable wind of 26 knots but it can get to speeds of 36 knots.
Yep explained it netter tend to over complicate things!
Windshear and severe turbulence? Good times!
so what its a small breeze :) i encountered a 156 knot tailwind over the atlantic. to be fair its different when ur landing XD Kudos to anyone who could land there.
can perform a vertical take off if headwind lol
The problem is HKIA is that the airport was built with a mountain on one of its side, if the wind blow off the mountain is strong enough, it can cause last-second wind sheer that cause problem on landing, there had been planes that crash landed (I think its a Air China flight during similar circumstance) because of change in wind sheer. And the direction of the wind (if blowing from the north) will blow the wind right into the mountain and rebound onto the runway.
Did the various go-arounds eventually land here after the storm moved, or did they have to divert?
Most of them diverted.
„Windshear -25 knots“ does this mean the wind is slower on the aircrafts current altitude or on the ground?
It means you can anticipate a drop of 25 KIAS on approach to landing phase. (Decreased performance, loss altitude, stalls...) Simply put, the wind is significantly "slower" at lower altitudes. Note: Wind speed might be the same but is caused by a shift in wind direction.
Oh okay :) I figured that less wind on the ground would be better in circumstances like these, thats why the question popped up that it might be the other way round. i didnt think about stalls etc. thanks for clearing that up :)
so i guess the procedure would be to shoot the approach 25 knots faster than you normaly would? (im not a pilot. i know a lot by now but only know the stuff i learned on channels like mraviation101 and others. i do want to get my PPL(A) soon though!)
Well, generally you would increase your approach speed depending on the gust factor. Wind-shear is too instantaneous to predict or pre-config for. You'll have to work your throttles like a violin in these conditions. I wouldn't worry about this kind of "higher level" information. Different airlines have different SOPs anyways. Focus on the fundamentals. CZcams is nice but isn't a substitute for good old fashion book(PDF) crunching. There are tons of free publications out there.
In a simulator I was on Final to KMIA with winds ghosting to 88 KNOTS
Miami Aviation Videos until you slammed into the ground ;)
In a simulator?
If the wind is straight from the front or smoth you may land as long as the airplane is able to fly a little bit faster. It's a little crazy to "fly" in one place above the ground and to put a plane straight down but it works.
The wind gradient is a little bit challanging. Gusting is unlandable (I wouldn't dare to try).
VASAviation - I actually crashed my left wing with the RWY
losttownstreet I end it up crashing I Lost control of the airplane
And we'll never know if CPA738 landed 😂
Hahaha he probably didn't.
AviationUpclose I didn't
Imagine how bad it would be if Kai Tak was still around.
Solar424 Whoosh... in the buildings you go, get some dinner on the way
I think all pilots took note of the China Airlines crash in 1998, which is caused by Windshear
Omg a female pilot. How many are there in the industry?
😀
That typhoon sure was a pecker 😉
One of the most interesting, boring, videos :) I've ever seen.
rare cx female pilot!
Didn’t a KLM land successfully?
Yes they did, although they had trouble getting the jetbridge to connect because of the wind...
If I recalled correctly, the KLM is landed during Super Typhoon Hato
Kam Tao Leo Lo oh yeah that’s right! Wayyy too many typhoons down here
Fuck klm
That's some crosswind component!
lots of "tree"