The Lost, Canceled, and Cut Content of Spore | Lost Media
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- Spore was a game that I frequently played growing up, and now, I get to talk about it for lost media! Woohoo! Come join me today as we talk about lost and cut content from the Spore universe; including beta content, two missing games, and even a possible theatrical adaptation!
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I have no idea why the Spore clips I recorded are so low quality lmao. Anyways, it's good to be back, thanks for watching lol.
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What if you re-create the crucial file?
You didn't seem to mention that the plant editor is still in game and you can use it via launch settings. It's very buggy but your buggy plants you save WILL spawn in game
At least this was true when I played it as a child .
@@Qobpthat's a big thing to miss! A follow up or addendum episode would be great
In creature stage, if you have no eyes you actually are blind!
Well, not fully blind; the game is completely monochrome and your view distance is extremely small.
@@Qobp yep, and also the advanced cell editor with all other cell parts
Imagine a game like Spore but with today's graphics and no EA
only if by graphics you mean more realistic, because my ultra gaming laptop can barely handle coolmathgames
I would kill for that
That would be impossible, you would need a big studio if you want a project this big with modern graphics, and spore is more cartoonish, so i don't see it looking to realistic, exept if the erylian eclips is observed
May I introduce you to Elysian Eclipse, and if you want something a little more scientific, Thrive
..Look at Elysian Eclipse and Thrive. Especially Elysian Eclipse. ..sadly, due to the unity situation, the development might take longer. (They're both still in development, but they're both promising)
Spore was a huge part of my childhood, and it's also the main reason I hate Eletronic Arts. I miss it so much..
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@@pustota7254 Not anymore 😭
yeah mine too
repent to God
o7 Maxis.
Cake editor is probably a nod to a quote: "If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe"
It was probably planned as a reward for reaching Galactic Core, but was cut due the lack of time.
That is a pretty huge leap.
@@vitriolicAmaranth Not really, Carl Sagan is a really influential author and it kind of fits within the game's themes. I read that this quote was experiencing a resurgence at the time of Spore's development.
@@dragonick2947 pies to cakes, apples to oranges- ignoring that there is no reason to assume a prototype feature is a reference at all, let alone to ANY specific quote.
@11:52 This is still a feature in the game. Eyeless creatures have severely limited radius of vision and it's all in sepia tone. It's quite the challenge.
It also expands as your beastie gets smarter!
The different vision types aren't though. No IR or UV vision or sonar or whatever.
basically in the early versions of the game different eye types wouldve had different levels of vision, so like the early kinds wouldnt see very far while the later ones wouldve had full vision. it got simplified into either having vision or not by the release of the full game
I’d love for them to remake spore- I bet they could do some of the things they wanted to do back then (like the aquatic stages). I honestly think Spore Remastered/2 would probably be pretty damn popular nowadays. I still look for games like Spore to this day and haven’t found one that gives me the exact same feel.
Thrive is a more realistic attempt at a remake, but after all of the years in development they still pretty much just have the cell stage (albeit with much much *much* more than in spore's), but that's what you get with an open source community made game. It's like $5 on steam but it's also available online with no paywall. It's pretty fun imo
Check out Elysians Eclipse
Terratech is in the same vein of character creation and I love it
If they made a official spore 2, DNA would cost 10 bucks a DNA
@@darkexecutionertr8939just needs more funding, but seemingly no large development corpo has shown interest since spore. With how advanced our artificial neural networks have gotten, you could probably make an absolutely amazing evolution simulator with enough funding.
The eyes are indeed not decorative in the final game if you remove the eyes off a creature you get reduced visibility
that only if you remove them in the beta and plan you will have different status and vision depending on the Eye instead of them just being decorative
i feel like the "Cake editor" was an inside joke from the devs cause when i was a kid making the buildings in Civ stage, i always thought they looked like cakes
I honestly really wish they had kept the original acquatic and city stages. Or at least keep them as optional opt-ins.
Same. I suggested a potential "Aquatic Evolution Route", a mod that could potentially make an Aquatic creature stay so even in Space, to DavoOnline(a gaming forum primarily focused on creating and sharing Spore creations and mods). We in the Spore modding scene don't exactly have the advancements to make such an ambitious change to the game yet, but I'm still hopeful it can happen eventually without having to start over with a Spore 2 fangame.
Spore is such an interesting case, either for the content in general or for what goes on under the hood of the game, there really isn't anything like it.
Note: bacteria are cells. There's many types of cells. Your cells and mine are what's called eukaryotic cells. They're more complex than a bacterium, but both are just cells.
Sizes also differ greatly. Some bacteria are visible to the naked eye, but obviously most are not.
@@alfredandersson875 I believe there's an eukaryotic organism so large you can hold it in your hand. It's called a slime mould and it's essentially one big cell with multiple nuclei
The biggest virus is larger than the smallest bacterium.
Life's just weird like that
I rememer that there was a glitch when during Creature stage cutscene game freaks out and acctually puts your nest underwater. It happened to two of my friends and I was always jealaous because best that happened to me was that one time when I somehow saved a creature without a mouth and game crashed.
I got that glitch several times and really loved it. You can also replicate it if you have a save with an advanced space empire.
I remember having a glitch like that, and for some reason going to land during that causes the sea monster to clip through the ground and instagib you. Meaning you pretty much cannot progress the game.
A related glitch, and much more common one in my experience, is spawning in the wrong continent, where there is only a nest of your own species. It results in pretty much the same thing - you cannot progress since the sea monster stops you from returning to the intended playable continent.
Yes I had a game like this. Tried to roll with it and ended up getting eaten by the gatekeeper multiple times.
As a child, this happened to me too, but with the ability to spit poison, I was able to lure the creatures to the water to kill them and gain dns points, and I was able to move on to the tribal phase.
And in the tribal phase, the whole village was in the water. 💀
However, I couldn't get any further from there because you couldn't click on the ground and the tribe simply died of hunger all the time.
I haven't heard or seen anyone experience anything like that. I would really like to see how the city would have been in the water in the civilization phase XD@@christiancinnabars1402
I never had that glitch yet
Your childhood gaming style was SO MUCH like mine. Nobody is ever truly alone in this universe.
Great minds think alike 💪
Spore was such a turning page in my life. It really shaped my future the moment it got me in awe with biological evolution.
Although the depicted evolution isn’t quite accurate, it was just enough to get me reading biology books in my late childhood.
I remember being a kid and being so mad the aquatic stage was cut upon release, it seemed so cool to me and I wanted to play it so bad.
11:50 You mention that if you have no eyes, you would play blind, but there is already a blind mode if you remove your eyes on the game, you will see colorblind and most of the screen will be indeed blinded.
But its not dead blind
Imagine the community had the game's Source Code or reverse engineered it.
Seeing more stages and general improvements in the game would be sooooooo good. There's so much potential.
A neat thing about the city stage that was leftover in the final game; there's a 'super' vehicle editor that lets you build any non space ship vehicle, and among the options for vehicle types next to land sea and air are 'harvester'. Unfortunately, creations saved as harvesters in the editor crash the game when you attempt to load them and the sporepedia doesn't support them, but it is interesting to think that a remnant actually made it into the final game, given how radically different the final is to the prototypes.
I grew up on spore, it was a awesome game and even now(atleast for me) still holds up well enough. I kinda wish some of this stuff made it into the final game, but alas
I'm a member of DavoOnline, which is essentially *the* Spore forum both for the game itself and the modding scene. I'm happy to see the game is still alive, it's one of my favorites of all time even today(EA aside). I really wish we had a beta version available, but at least we have any record of it at all.
I used to get all of my mods from there!!
Do you have any recommendations to expand the gameplay using mods? I searched for ages but there seem to be mostly editor mods
I wish tribal stage had production. Simple resources like wood, stone, rope and finally metals to craft tools, armor and buildings of increased quality with an editor for huts and armor.
Also being able to craft tools in the final chapters of the creature stage. You can already pick up sticks and throw them. It would be nice to maybe sharpen rocks and sticks. I’m thinking of a crafting system like in “Ancestor’s humankind odyssey” but with simpler controls.
These changes would make the transitions smoother and just add depth and strategy to gaining advantage in the race of evolution and natural selection. After all survival of the fittest doesn’t always mean strongest, sometimes it’s the cleverest.
In my opinion the aquatic stage and city stage should be integrated into creature and tribal stage as a transition with a small but distinct expansion in mechanics rather than separate stage.
For creature stage it would be unlocking legs and hands and creating a pack, and in latter half of the creature stage you could craft tools.
For city stage you’d unlock vehicles pulled by creatures basically chariots and agriculture as well an expansion in hut parts settlement size and population.
Having a space program in civilization stage that would unlock satellites to let you ignore fog of war (which would otherwise limit your sight) as a step between civilization and space stage.
Truly the biggest contribution of spore to our lives was showing us that imagination is limitless.
Fog of war is specifically conflict related. It always exists. General fog would be more apt. Even in the civilization games fog of war remains as general fog disappears.
@@alfredandersson875 well yes. Some fog of war does remain. But with futher advancemdnt in spy technology you can listen to convesations and read secret documents.
3/10 didnt even mention darkspore
okay jokes aside, pretty good video but i feel like you couldve covered quite a bit more in the spore universe, like darkspore, spore hero, etc. im pretty sure that spore hero and spore hero areana were made near the end of the height of spore, as was the now dead darkspore. tbh you could make an entire video on darkspore itself, how it was, why it was shutdown ,and the community revival of some of its stuff like through mods of spore, or just attempted full revival.
I’ll probably end up tackling Dark Spore in the future. In all honesty I forgot it existed while I was making this video so I think that speaks volumes on why I need to make a video over it lol. Thanks for watching!
Darkspore makes me so mad
@@genericname2747I mean, I played that game for like 50+ hours at least, and loved it.
Now, I was like 10 yo, but still!
I heard "Cake Editor" and IMMEDIATELY thought of that one line where an alien race asks if you would like to buy cake. If thats not what it's for then I don't know what else.
Maybe it was for the transition cutscene between tribal and civilisation stage where after your creatures talk about buildings and vehicles in speech bubbles, one creature mentions cake in a speech bubble as a joke.
@@salam-peace5519Not really, but there's a path that you can follow, which is..
Omnivore
Predator
Friendly
Economic
If you find a alien race in space stage that has followed that path, they will do that cake line.
"Do you want some cake? Wait, do we cake?"
"Right, we don't have cake."
"Uhh, would you sell us some cake?"
Interesting vid. I remember seeing Blue Sky's wikipedia page and wondering WTF Spore was in the upcoming films section, and now I know. God that was so long ago. Like a decade or more. I can't believe how fast time has gone. Anyway, I can't imagine it got far, like you said.
I spent 100$ when this came out for the collectors edition, and it came with a 3 install rule. Ive never wasted a dime on this company since
Ah Spore.
I never played it but I remember watching my cousin play it and we would make the most goofiest creature ever.
techinically you did play it if you made creatures
11:53 If you have no eyes, although you are not completely blind, you see much less and everything is black and white
Anyway very good video
Wow this game was a gem.
yeah
12:45 Interesting thing about cut feature of giving creatures food is that there are microscopic remains of it still present in the game!
When you interact with a fruit to eat it, for a brief moment you can hover your mouse over another creature in "friendly mode" and see how the cursor icon changes to that of a "gift box" one! Unfortunately it doesn't do anything as your creature just eats the fruit.
Also something simmilar still remains in the stage via objects interaction you can do if your creature has arms. You can give other creatures some stuff that you can pick up, such as small stones, sticks and seashells, which they will accept and carry to their nest to drop the items near it.... Or you can throw those into unsuspecting critters instead to confuse them and make them grumpy. Doesn't do anything else and doesn't really affect the game or relationship with those creatures in any way.
Aw man I remember that 2D editor I played it a few times on the site. Sad to know it's completely lost media now minus a few clips of it. Spore was my childhood and I am confident I put over 1000 hours into it since I somehow managed to treat it as baby's first social media
I also remember for a time on the site for $50 you could have a 3D sculpture made of a creature of your choice made and shipped to you. I wanted that so bad but my parents couldn't justify the price for the late 2000's. Anyone else remember that?
Yesss, I wanted one of those statues so bad too. I was also surprised to see Spore 2D is lost media now. I remember playing it and going on the old Spore website. I remember there being a Spore iPhone game too, even though I never got to play it. I wonder if that's lost media now.
@@PilotLightKitty Oh yeah I also played the iphone game. I also played a more simplified version of that game on my Motorola Razr. I got every single spore media that existed... except for that dang statue lol. I want to see the ones that were produced since I never really saw what became of that
@@mintysaurs Ah nice!! I always wanted to play it, only ever saw a friend of mine play it. I tried my best to get all the Spore media as well. Also a video about people who got those statues and how they turned out would be super interesting!
one thing i've maintained for a while is that calling it the "Cell" stage is just cuz that's a catchier, more easy to understand concept than what it actually is-- imo it's more of a Plankton stage. The Cells have things like eyes and dedicated mouths, things actual single-cells wouldn't have because those parts are MADE of cells in the first place.
15:25 i agree, but i think a medieval stage would be very cool.İt could be a combination of tribe and civilization stage, like you put buildings, you tame creatures and ride them like horses, there could be a king family tree idk? i think it would be very cool!
ok i can tell this dude is based, a spore video and it has a mug moment in the first minute!? like how can you get even better then that
I like to imagine for the research genetics part, that you were able to for example analyze the characteristics of plants and animals you find on other planets and then use that knowledge to create your own custom plants and animals that can accelarate the terraforming process.
The Cutting Room Floor is a godsend
Thank you for making this video! I feel as though there’s not enough videos looking into the cut content of Spore. I enjoyed it!
I think the most missed opportunity in this game was being able to save city layouts, most of the times having to put all of the buildings in the correct way in the space age its too tedious and slow and most of the times is the main reason why people don't expand their empire that much. doing so would take a shit ton of time manually.
I accidentally got into your video, but the intro hit my childhood so hard with the Nintendo DS and the pc gaming but man, as soon as you mentioned Spore I just had to subscribe and stay for the rest of the video. Oh waht an amazing game!!
I first played spore in 2019. It was a great day for me. I cried when i saw my old creation (the first one). This game just has something in it, sad it isnt continued.
Really wish They had left the aquatic stage in, that demo is what I remember most vividly during my hype-fueled wait for its release....
2:04
Finally! Everyone always says that Civ stage is one of the worst ones, I thought I was alone in liking it
Personally, my favorite part of Spore was the vehicle/spaceship editor and especially to play it in a way that it wasn't intended to work by creating giant gundamesque robots. It would have been really cool if they implimented a system like that into the space stage as either a replacement for colony vehicles or even a space stage version of the cut harvester vehicle. (Robot workers and all)
The cake editor might have been for the transition between tribal and civilisation stage, in the cutscene you first see your creatures talk with speech bubbles about buildings and then it opens the building editor, then they talk about vehicles and it opens the vehicle editor, and at the end you can see one creature mentioning cake in a speech bubble as a joke. Maybe this should have opened the cake editor, but they later decided to remove it.
Underrated video Underrated game
Halo, RC Tycoon and Spore, i too was addicted to all 3 of these on my handmedown windows XP room heater. Maybe a bit of StarCraft too.
I agree with tribal stage and I think the civilization stage city building was scraped because it would shift the focus of the game, but maybe a little more liberty desinging the city would be hella fun.
i'm surprised you didn't talk about the sequel to spore that's currently lost media. i forget the name if it, but it was like a darker version if spore where you like make a creature as usual but then send them out on missions, get dna, fight other creatures, etc. it had online servers and was online only, so when the servers went down the game basically died. people always joked that it was the 'shadow the hedgehog' spore sequel.
i swear this isnt like a bullshit 'evil farming game' situation where i dreamed this up, im like 90% sure this was a real game that existed at one point.
edit: It was called Darkspore!
Not lost, it’s KINDAA archived on Dark Injection
fun random fact, there was vague evidence of a plant editor as well as a cell editor as you cannot edit a cell outside of the campaign, but the buttons are sort of there, so in the creator selector, you would get a sound played as you hover your arrow over the buttons, well there are 2 hidden buttons that are hidden, I forget where but you can hear it if you have a good ear.
I would have loved the aquatic stage that would have been so cool I could have become a reaper leviathan from subnuatica
2:37 minor mistake, you dont actually have to give your creature legs ever. Although this is when you first get the option.
EA really should've been sued for misleading marketing with Spore tbh since they didn't even give us the full game that they promised and marketed to us, especially since we never even got the sea phase before the creature/land phase.
About the cell stage parts that are not available, people have theorized they meant to be upgraded versions of the base parts and that would have meant cell stage originally meant to be longer, so the reason why they got cut is probably the length of the stage.
It's possible the cake editor wasn't going to be a real stage, but rather a test the devs made while working on the building editor for the civilization stage. Both feature the player using a set of pre-existing parts to make a tall structure, the cake was probably a simple template to let them get the basics of construction down before they implemented the actual feature.
The only 2 stages that benefits from parts is the cell and the creature, the rest you can be a blob with no arms and legs, and dont affect anything.
I always get a little sad when I see Tribal Stage hate, I always loved it
Spore was amazing
Im pretty sure that the cake editor might've been for city or civ stage, since if you actually watch the cutscene that starts civ, one of your people suggests making cake. That might've been planned to actually happen.
Wild theory.
I just remembered that I had two Spore games on my cellphone, you know, when phones had buttons? Yep, I'm talking about those java games. Jesus, I'm old.
I hate the fact that EA threw Spore in the trash basically even when it was a massive success, like, not only the fact that they cancelled many projects for expansions but that they also removed a lot of interesting stages and mechanics during development, the game is really good, but the fact that it couldve been even better...
Molecular Stage just sounds like that old flash game "cellcraft", the one that has nothing to do with minecraft and features talking platypus and a robot that tries to sabotage you
I vaguely remember this game. I thought I was the only one
A platypus perry the platypus?!
If you want something like Spore's creature mode, The Sapling is similar, though it's more of an evolution sim. There's another game that is very, very similar, but its horribly buggy.
I would really love to have cattle and farms in civ stages, based on tribal pets. And add plant editor to that, you could have your own dream farm.
I used to think about aquatic stage all the time, and what could’ve been. Also guilty for liking tribal stage, I really like the concept lol
If you pick up fruit in creature stage you still get the prompt to gift it to other creatures, but it doesn’t work, either it drops the fruit or continues eating it
Look up Thrive the game. And be sad that its not done yet... :(
Spore2D Was apart of my childhood! Infact I have it as a t-shirt on old roblox accounts.
i don't know what i would want more, an aquatic stage in spore or a spore movie.
I hate the idea of making a movie or other form of non-interactive adaption based on a open world sandbox game that lacks one particular story and is instead heavily depending on the player's own free creativity, story telling and interpretation rather than some adaption telling you a fixed "official" version of what the story should really be.
I hate when the dev suddenly implement a story mode in their sandbox game telling the player what they should do to follow the proper official story of the game if the game is just all about exploring and building their own world that lacks any in-game story, quest system and characters to begin with for years. I wouldn't mind if it was just some non-official role-playing mod or some non-official work based on one player's story.
As a kid I hated creature stage, as an adult I just dislike it. I wish tribal and city were expanded upon for sure.
that 2D creature game was so fun I remember playing it alot
So they removed some content and simplified the game because they were concerned of people not liking the gameplay, but ironically the released game feels like it's missing a lot of things in the gameplay.
I always suspected that the Spore movie was likely going to tie into Spore Heroes, especially how story driven and cinematic that game was. That or the movie was repurposed into Spore Heroes.
I grew up playing spore, and I want to play it again as I’ve resparked my special interesting in it
Creature stage was always my favorite and I would stay on the stage for hours whenever I made a new species
I picked up spore around 9 months ago, I absolutely *LOVE* spore!
If my username doesn't give it away, I ADORE spore!
for some reason i can see slight outlines of a underwater city in the space and civilization stage
I love spore, plus insatlling Dark Injection made the game 1000x better to me (mainly as it removed Part Limits). But I myself feel as though they should have focused some more on creature stages. I understand why Sewer Reviewer likes the City and Space stages, but to me I liked the cell and creature stages. I just wish there was more to do, maybe in the Creature stage they should have added cave systems that allow for new species to be discovered, as well as maybe new adaptations like some feet may allow for creatures to walk on Cave walls and up steep hills.
Caves could have also been a cool excuse for bioluminescence.
Maybe you unlock glowing parts / skins when you find yourself a cave (like a pop up appears like when you kill your first creature mentioning how dark it is) and then you start being able to get them. Could add in some sweet new body parts like Angler Lures and glowing bodies.
Its such a shame that Spore wont be updated really ever...
something something "Elysian Eclipse"
The mismanagement of the Spore franchise frustrated me as a kid and astounds me as an adult.
Gosh, I would have loved if they released Spore Creature keeper. Basically combining the two things I was obsessed with in the early 2010s. I probably would have played it a ton as a kid. I'd probably play it a ton even now if it got a release.
The cake is a lie.
Does the timing line up for the cake editor to be a Portal easter egg?
I would've loved Creature Keeper and the Spore movie. Why universe, WHY!? :'D-[
I really want a Spore 2 with all of these scrapped features
when i was a kid, i had something similiar and tried becoming the huge monster, never achieved it because its impossible (idk if there were or are any mods for that but i didnt know about those)
awesome sauce video
oh em gee its him!!
I. Too like sauce.
A shame this never got a sequel.
Some other creatures in the cell stage have the removed parts
Darkspore is technically part of the franchise and i would say counts as lost media now being an online only game that doesn't have servers any more
19:20
The cake is a lie. 🎂🤖
Ea still remembers spore since EA app has spore
What EA did to Spore and Maxis is just so sad
Spore... Spore never changes...
No mention of Darkspore?
Darkspore isn't technically lost. You can run a server yourself and play the game if I recall correctly.
You can still be blind if you have no eyes. It was removed in Galactic Adventures.
Level of Sneak does not make any difference there too🙁
Spore Creature Keeper was cancelled after the creatures became aware that they were in a video game.
Is Spore 2D from Poptropica? The graphics look identical and they did a lot of promos with other games, books, etc.
I didn't even know before that anything besides killing everyone wasn't the best option. Probably also why I got wiped out.
damn i grew up with spore.
WE NEED MODS TO BRING THESE DEAD FEATURES BACK! God, EA butchered this game.
There’s a galactic adventures pack someone made that recreates the aquatic stage but that’s pretty much it lol
Woah! I never knew Spore was originally supposed to have *Molecular* stage and *Aquatic* stage, that would have made the game slightly more accurate scientifically. I don't know about the "plays like Tetris" bit for the Molecular stage, but I don't think makes sense; it could just play out like what Thrive has - collecting phosphates and ammonia, which are some of the basic ingredients for nucleic acids (DNA/RNA) instead of proteins outright, and the challenge would be competition against other self-replicating entities (protocells) or avoid getting assimilated by them.
8:29 what do you mean by that? Prokaryotes (bacteria and archaea) are literally cells just like eukaryotes; why shouldn't they be in the Cell Stage?