Counter MULTI-CLASSING w/ THIS Build | Dark and Darker
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- In this one, I find the BEST slayer fighter build to counter MOST of the unpredictability that multi-classing may cause.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Gear Up
6:02 Dummy Test
6:17 Game 1 (2 Kills)
7:43 Game 2 (3 Kills)
8:33 Game 3 (3 Kills)
9:36 Game 4 (2 Kills)
11:55 Game 5 (thelorr vs Moddxe)(3 Kills)
13:24 Game 6 (3 Kills)
14:17 Game 7 (3 Kills)
15:27 Death
15:56 Selling The Earnings
Total: 19 Kills - 1 Death
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The rogue at 12:25 is a freaking big noob! GGs lorr it was a close fight.
Ggs mod, love your streams and videos man
Lmao
The spacing on that first turn around was so clean
@thelorr have u tried cyclops vision crystal ? U get way more stats from it
The dude back tumbling into the lantern at 8:41 killed me lmfao
Too funny lol
He was a npc
multiclass either needs an extreme nerf to the perks when equipped by someone else, make a different match queue for people multiclassing, or just completely remove it from the game. It should’ve def stayed in the test server longer since it is making a lot of people stop playing after we all were dying waiting for this wipe to come out…
yea nerfing the perks if equipped by another class seems like a good solution to me
I agree but it's just too much work. fine tuning all perks and skills so they work on every class just isn't possible. I hope they take it out asap
bro its already nerfed its not like i get to pick what i get all im trying to get is one dam skill and i keep getting spells or perks
like ya it sucks when u get 1shot by a flash barb or this fighter build in the vid its just a game where all are meant to have funn so make the game fun for u
Ptr is a joke
love your videos man keep it UP best fighter around. I died to you in the goblin caves the other day and it felt like dying to ninja in fortnite to me lmao
Great build brother!
I just got my ideal build on first reroll fighter with spell, fireball and ignite. Now, finally, I can make use of my novelty LorrTM Crystal Ball as more than just a counterweight/weekend bowling ball lmao
Also ignite damage slaps so hard with the right build and with high action speed. All I can say is Brisingr
Made one of the most fun builds I’ve ever ran today… robust, war cry, all vigor and max health gear while building damage and pdr, I’m 96% move speed with weapons away and 85% with longsword out. When I have my longsword out with max health and war cry up, I have 225 hp. (As a fighter). I’m also doing 96, 100, 105. Most fun I’ve ever had running thru lobbies
I completely agree with you, it doesnt make any sense for the my game to have such a goofy and game changing feature like multi classing
they feel like they belong in something akin to a gamemode or alternate game entirely
now advanced classes is kind of what i expected or hybrid classes with 2 specific and always together classes being together but as lorr said unpredictably tied with the fact that multi classing feels like a for fun feature as apposed to something that enhances the dungeon and thats also healthy
personally i don't like multiclassing because of the rng in terms of pvp like you said. i am currently exemplar in duos on my bard and ice caves has been ruined by double jump and rats hiding in the middle of the map. just like ruins you need to stay on the edge of the map with ranged weapons. if you go towards the center you get landmined by pretty much anyone
as someone who played a lot of duos and loved the caves. it's absolutely atrocious to play , everyones got double jump ambush windlass. 1 shots anything below 130 hp lol if you stop moving its possible death
Facs
I agree ive been seshing duos alot and now since multiclass came out there is always at least 1 ranger with ambush windlass and double jump hiding waiting for you to loot
Minute 10.23
I'm so fking glad i stopped playing after multiclassing. having to fight something like that really shows that devs have no actual idea about direction and/or they just want to be ready for arena so they can dump all the problems on that
You should go home I think your drunk
Dude I still dont even know what class that was lmao. Multiclassing is so shit
Multi-classing is a good concept it just meeds refinements and limitations. As well as the game should be focusing on other things before adding such a complicated system, like for instance balancing and finishing the druid, adding to all the classes, maybe even eventually adding other classes, but it's not ready for a multiclassing system. And servers having complete wipes makes the grind for a lot of these things almost seems more work then fun at first
the "yeah, he died." cut at 9:58 made me lol
You could also get axe specialization which gives you +5 weapon damage when having an axe, combine that with slayer and you have +10 weapon damage
I like the multiclass as test. For the gameplay and maybe new/re-design of classes. Could be very useful for the devs to make better game.
this update has completely removed class identity and made engagements extremely RNG. I died in the exact same way that you described in your intro. I really hope they revert this update sooner than later.
I agree it’s just not that enjoyable it’s just better to remove it basically takes out the core game and balancing is way worse
100% removed next season
Skill issue
@@kaoliger it has nothing to do with skill tho just bad game design brain dead moron 💀come up with something better next time
the builds might be hard to find out but combat itself is still entirely up to you. they have options and so do you. multi classing actually allows variety as you can mix and match what ever perks and abilities you want. and class identity still exists, albeit less so, as each character has their own unique base stats and weapon options. also, grinding to get every ability or perk takes a major time investment which incentivizes you to use a combination of your own original perks with a few others.
hey my guy, I am somewhat new to DaD and have watched a ton of videos across many channels for all of the classes, but always end up back here because you just make good videos. it's just nice watching you play & talk about the game.
why are you using a crystal ball for this build? is it just for the stats, or is there another reason? seems odd to me that a (slayer) fighter would use a crystal ball instead of a dagger/shortsword.. just from a "style" pov.
The crystal ball counts as a weapon the off stat on crystal ball is additional weapon DMG so he he's stacking highest wep dmg
earned my sub bro
Respect my man spending almost 20k for a video 💪
Hey love the videos!
However I keep getting confused where games are separated since you never show you exiting. i looked at the time stamps later on, but its kind of lame to do it while video is running, especially when i am eating.
Also showing you exiting releases Endorphins into my simple brain, please add it back on. also-also, it would make it easier remember where the loot came from, which is kinda of cool.
That ring you sold at !7:02 is worth so much more than you sold it for it was a double pdr roll which would sold for a lot already and the 2 true makes it worth so much with it.
Easily worth 7-9k
What do you think about slayer and axe specialization barb
I was running slayer with blunt weapon mastery. crazy high damage and armor pen
Try multiclassing slayer fighter with wizard. Replace sprint with spell wheel and grab haste & ignite, perhaps even invis
im enjoying a hybrid support warlock build in trios, running lesser heal and sanc and haste for team support, CoP and fireball for damage.
if you swap out dual wield for axe specialist it'll give you +5 more weapon damage so you can run falchion and hatchet
People keep saying "they could have xyz and you won't know" well so do you.
You should be more careful with centipede poison man, at 9:42 you fought on top of it, a little bad luck and it can insta kill you if you stay on top with 3 stacks, I really worried watching that fight. GGs as always, keep up the good content
tumbling guy was 100% accurate lmao
They did good lol
SUB CLASSING / SKILL TREE IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE THE CHANGE
example: fighters second wind can be obtain thru a "skill tree" that specs specifically into fighter, BUT since that skill is foreign to the class using it, THEY CANT USE ITS FULL CAPACITY.
fighter gets maybe 30% 40% 50% max
any other class 25% 35% 45% max
numbers and balancing is subject to change obviously im just using example numbers.
i like being able to use other classes stuff, but as much as i like being a swifter slayer fighter as a rogue main, its not necesarily healthy. as bad as i am at the game, i want the game to do well and prosper.
me personally multiclassing is cool and all but i wish they would try to fix all the stuff they can before adding multiclassing which is just way harder to balance than what we already have.
Been running slayer / wpn master on my warlock. Added ignite from wizard and it is better than actual slayer lmao.
They should use multiclassing in the future if they do events but it should not be the base game experience
I always forget you can use orb as fighter with weapon mastery
the francesca axe throwing in this game is stupid, nice build tho and good vid
I do not see any multiclassing problems lore wise, you may have started as a thieving rogue, and turned to gods, and became cleric and learned smite, or joined northern barbarians and learned their fighting style
You can edit thumbnails after the video was updated right?
The thumbnail is Saying "counter muli classing". The Multi is missing the T and turned into Muli.
You should try out blood exchange slayer if you can. Very fun.
I think you should loock at the Cyclops eye crystal ball for the stats
Gg I was barbarian at 9:10
Lorr i want to show you my slayer warlock works preaty well, whit a good build can reach more to 50% physical reduction + 30/40% magic reduction , normaly 95/97 mov speed max and 130hp, fells amazing
why are you trying to 'stay positive' for multiclassing? this isn't facebook or instagram, we aren't 20 year old white women. just outright call this a stupid mistake that should have never left the test servers. no reason for good vibes and Sagittarius energy
as a content creator we rely on you to help steer the game in the right direction, as IM evidently loves obeying their content creators to the letter.
thank you for the input of it though, hopefully IM reverts this garbage so the game can be playable again for 2 weeks before they find another ingenious way to break it again
Just a different perspective I don’t pvp to much I really like the dungeon crawling and treasure hunting and I really like multi class it makes classes less rigid and opens up a lot of possibilities like one of my ideas is arcane rogue hide wizard spell: invis haste magic lock light orb this can’t be done without multi class
Anyone know if this was >299 or over??
Game needs more Defined class's not muti class . We are still to see druid , but there could also be more defined Mages Fire / Ice /earth/ Arcane with added spells for each . Split the PDR and slayer fighter with more skills on each . Cleric split Priest and Paladin , Warlock split to Caster and Dark knight ( plate ) class's , Necromancer , Rogue Split to Ambush mele and thief . Necromancer , Templar etc etc the list goes on ..
i wish that it was limited more to having only 2 cross-class perks and maybe 1 skill instead of having full barb perks on a rogue class with sprint + rage lol
Multiclass gotta GO‼️‼️‼️‼️
try to get ice shield from wizard, its really insane aswell as robust and savage roar from barbarian
Bro, it takes ages if you wanne lvl all your characters for multiclassing
perks can be a nice little addition but class spells like a cleric with wizard spells and or class abilities i feel is a no no
This update this a win for the game i will quit again when its gone
kust so you know rugged boots with move speed sell very good especially if the have knowledge, with 5 ms they go for 1k just so you know
Multiclassing as IM has it implemented right now is awful. If they were smart, in their next iteration, they'd cut out multiclass and put that training tree into use. Make it kinda like subclasses in D&D.
Maybe an Arcane Trickster type Rogue could equip one Spell Memory skill with access to Zap, Arcane Lock, Invisibility, Haste, and one other spell. A Swashbuckler style Rogue could use Rapier Mastery and wield a Buckler. Shit like that.
Hell, I got absolutely bodied by a Bard the other day with a very focused multiclass that I really respected. He had his Charismatic Performance and Rapier Mastery perks from being a Bard, but the other two were Crossbow Mastery from the Ranger and Sword Mastery from the Fighter. Then he had Song Memory 1 and Sprint. Just a straightforward combat build without all the bullshit one-shot Staff Mastery/BoC/Judgment type trash.
You should try Druid
I’m gonna be really sad when multi classing goes away cuz I have the perfect cleric wizard hybrid but I understand it’s not good for the game over all.
So in order to counter multiclassing all i have to do is dump 10k gold into gear. Thank you 🥳
i was the barb with a copper hat lol you destroyed me dude
I think a really cool thing you could do is put how much money you made last video at the start of every video after everything sells
Just died with 140hp 45%pdr to a duo of rangers with hide ambush running windlass. Died instantly no counter play available. It’s almost like they designed classes to synergies with themselves not balanced for synergy with other classes.
it makes the game fun and gives it replayability
Name checks out
This video actually gave me some hope, like u i have only played slayer, after losing a few 25 k kits to being shocked with rage or divine protection by people who have2500 kits i took a break from the game even tho i have tons and tons of gear but u have restored some hope for me im goin to hit the dungeon tonite with my windlass lol. If i die again to bs ill b giving away all the bis in ur next stream
yes slayer is still gonna be the most broken thing in the game
I dont like multi class either but only cause I havent gotten the build i want yet
So far I haven't been able to play simply because of trash RNG on my multiclassing rolls
I like multiclass exactly for the reason to counter the hold W slayer fighters, and because no more rock paper scissors situation on game, it becomes more of a longer fight with less "I was ran over by that barb/fighter." situation, and more of "okay go in, try to see what they have, come back, re think the fight, go in, fight a bit, go out." and so on, my experience with multiclass so far has been just as if I am playing against slayers or barbs, but either they are rogues, or fighters, so far its fine. In fact it doesnt feel like anything has changed.
Except for Clericlock, or ClericWiz, which is gonna make warlock and wizards basically obsolete with how op cleric stats are. but oh well.
I absolutely love multi class. The only thing i wish to have an easier accessibility to different perks/skills.
you love it because you play the worst class in the game lol. Now you can use barbarian perks to make a bad class good. Not good for the health of the game
@@tokenoftrustrogue has never been and will never be the weakest class in the game. You are dog shit if you can’t make rogue work in solos
I see whatcha mean, but doesn't it seem lazy in terms of design?. there's gonna be a point when everyone runs the same 3 ability cause theyre too good. and if you don't use them you're just trolling
This game has never been more fun than with multi classing. Was getting stale with the warlock meta this is way better.
Complaining about multiclassing is pretty hilarious. Multiclassing gives this game variety. You shouldn’t be able to w key anyone because you know you beat them straight up. Feeling someone out is a better plan.
Glad u enjoying Druid as well
All fun and games until u run into my 203 dmg first hit bonk warlock
Yup @thelorr
This sucks. There are some completely, obviously, terribly, broken combinations. Ambush + Hide on any class that’s not a rogue = broken. Robust + Ironwill on pdr, mdr, tanks. Every class running with max movespeed, weapons out, with sprint. ANYCLASS being able to double jump into cheese spots and shoot you for free with the windlass and there is nothing you can do about it. This is some mini game, half asses, zero integrity, bullsh*t, and I can’t believe I wasted my time on this game to get to this point. IronF*ckingMace 🎉
all the people that hate it are butts being able to mix abilities is so much fun
to all that hate multiclassing get good scrub (its fine if u dont like it but hate is to much)
Polls don't work with you open with a biased opinion. You make the poll beforehand
Instead of weapon mastery robust
i just returned to the game and a few days later they added multiclassing i was so excited for the wipe and now i just dont even wanna play. I dont wanna be that player that flames the devs but this was the dumbest thing they ever added.
The skill ceiling in this game was knowing the correct play at the right time... Multi-classing ruins all of that, now you go into a fight against a Mouse but the Mouse has a fuckin shotgun in his pocket
The Devs are so stupid to allow this to go live.
Class identity still exists, just play Pure”” whatever class you want. They just gave the community more Character expression and insensitive not to JUST play fighter…
Well on that rogue note, fought them with a 30/30/30 dex and agil and vigor slayer. Got them on there toes with a high end recurve bow, pushed with second wind and they turned into a warlock with blow of corruption…died in two hits to a rondel an got them to less than 20hp.
Needless to say I went to general chat an said gg I’m out of the game until they remove this cancer chaotic class system.
Boc adds like 10 dmg gang
Multiclass is so much fun. Im excited to see how they iterate on the system and make it even better!
You died bc hit in arm. Smtimes happened on me too. Bad luck on very speed fights its luck
Please use your influence to be vocal about how this update has ruined such a core element of this game
Well, last patches forcedme to uninstall this game.
Creep, multi class, one hit-rat windlases. Jesus, i don't wanna play it anymore
casual 17 k Kit to counter the 500 Gold Kit multiclassers :D what has become of this game :D
Im hoping honestly they remove classing and go the route it feels theyre leaning...... Decide from a point pool and make your own character! Get randomized rolls first from your desired role and then decide what stats you need from an amount shared by everyone. Super cool right? Super DaD feel. Really cool in my imagination, could suck. Never know till you get there. Just being hopeful for this game because ive never played anything more beautiful despite the aids dev decisions thus far. Super unique and addictive. No other combat feels this mechanically involved without becoming LoL/3rd person, last game ive played close was Pred Apex legends s13-14.
Honestly, I dont think predictability is good for this game. Multiclassing is going to become a huge part of this game and was always planned, this is a DnD based game, always has been and it's really becoming more and more interesting with every wipe. I love this game and it's continued to be fun because its NOT repetitive
This update keeps you on your feet love it people that hate it have skill issue or hate when they loose to somethign they always won thats just me doe
Multiclass is a good feature for the game BUT ironmace as usual goes the head scratching way.
We don't need 300 lvl.. that's stupid. We already had lvl 16 to 20 that meant NOTHING. It was easy that simply make these lvl gain a token each for 5 max.
Also, A barb should be a better Barb then any other class. Barb perk should be stronger on Barb. Class identity. So I would say that perk from other class should be 50% to 75% of the original perk.
With limited perk, scrap the leveling another character part.. which suck anyway and let us choose the perk we want. No more RNG. Let me build my berserker Barb with an axe in each hand.
I would not mind if these 16 to 20 lvl could also be a way to make the perk of the original class 25% stronger. It would give an incentive to monoclass player.
There are TONS of easy idea regarding multiclass. But they choose the weird and hard way for some reason..
Intro stating that unpredictable situations are bad is such a bad take. Unpredictability is the best part of the game's PvP. You should not be able to tell at a distance if you'll be able to stomp someone or not. Playing safe is a necessity like in the earlier days of the game. The gameplay becomes stagnant when you can build a kit and W key everyone.
This comment tells me you’ve never lost anything great in this game. Lorr lost 20k gold kit to a rogue with savage roar. That was a level of unpredictability out of the waters, it’s an instant loss for him.. he can’t do ANYTHING in that situation, not even run… look at that rogues movespeed! You’re probs a casual af player
W key is for low levels. Path finder and above it’s a complete different game you can’t just w key anyone. You sound low ranked
Multiclass is great, the only issue there is that the barbarians can get easily 75% pdr and mr with multiclass, its sick.
this multiclass really boring me like shit ..
why do you want a stagnent predictable meta? why wouldnt you want chaos? its so boring, with class identity like that certain classes become borderline uselss in this state everyone has everything so you can try whatever on whatever
you feel less inclined to run your BIS kits because you have no idea what you’re running into. The rogue fight at the end there’s nothing I can do there but swing. His MS was crazy too so I couldn’t get away. Some things are just broken is all and need adjustments if they’re going to allow rogues using barb skills
@@thelorr idk man i built a fighter with all tank perks and straight out the squire i have (with shield up) capped 75% pdr and 50%mr so if i had bis tank for that id feel pretty comfortable always bringing it in with my 3's team. (50%pdr and 35%mr with shield down) i use a cross bow for MS players and soon it will be spells instead once i keep leveling. im way more into playing, especially high roller bis content, now that i dont feel my favorite play styles are locked to weak classes or are gear dependent.
I love you lorr but if you had been leveling up multiclassing this whole time instead of just playing slayer you may have a different opinion
The dude puts out a video almost every day on a new mind blowing slayer build. Who tf has TIME to level a character to 35? That shit literally takes days of play time. Solo in GC grind too. Good thing they came to their senses for easier leveling
Doesn't this kind of elaborate on why multiclass isn't great?
He is at a disadvantage playing a class he wants to play and not grinding for goofy combinations.
@@saligonth if you let everybody “play what they want to play” everybody will gravitate towards the most powerful meta class with little deviation. I’m 1-0 with lorr on fighter, I love fighter but I also recognize there’s a lot more to learn with each class and weapon I end up playing. Gives the game a little more nuance rather than everyone dominating GC with only warlock and slayer….
@@tokenoftrustI just leveled a barb to 25 in 3 hours. It's not that hard.
Muli
this update is amazing yall a bunch of doomers smh
I'm enjoying multiclass right now, loving the endless possibilities. I guess I haven't ran into enough barbarian rogues to set me off yet haha
Multiclassing has been fun. You should participate in it for sure. It makes your content more enjoyable to watch seeing different encounters also for the record.
I like the unpredictability :( I think it really helps with the rock paper scissors situation where some classes have a really hard time dealing with others and now they can use multiclassing to cover for their weaknesses. I know that there's probably some combos that are probably to OP, but Ironmace could fix the issue by nerfing the perk or making to where certain classes can't use certain perks
I think multiclass has saved the game in terms of balance. Achillies barb no longer dominates everyone, warlock no longer shuts down all classes, and bards cant stat check every single class now. The game is so much more fun and fair now
exactly take Multi classing out
mad mad mad i love rogue + savage roar
Multiclass will ruin this game.
Multiclassing will be good, but not at this part of the game. Add more classes and maps first.
trash update after trash update