Glad to see you back in the swing of making those highly informative videos after working tirelessly to get your shop open and running smoothly. My previous bow, the single cam 2006 PSE Fire Flite 33 you tinkered with at your Teach N Train last summer was set at 29 in and 60 lbs. My newer PRIME Black 3 is set up at 29.5 in draw and 65 lbs. I am not sure if I can really tell which one is correct as long as my peep is good.
Great reminders on figuring out draw length. Great to see you behind the bench as well! ...it's still exciting think about you actually owning your own bow shop! 🙌🏻
Those Bear bows are nice and easy to change the draw on. I have a Species and I did some changing just to see.. And I went back to 28" which is where I started LOL
@5:00 wrt AMO DL: acc. to my knowledge that is actually not correct respectively that is not the AMO DL, but the "true" DL as it corresponds with the travel distance of the nock point to the pivot point of the bow grip. The "AMO" DL adds 1.75" to the true DL...
Why are people listing their height and weight in the comment section of all these videos? Im new to this and I thought that it was only draw length that matters?
Shop looks great! Yeah, that draw length thing is a bit of trial and error, and can vary by bow manufacturer and model. I am six feet tall and have a 30” draw, so I am a bit outside the box.
I'm 6'4" tall. I have long monkey arms but.... Thanks to previous shoulder issues. I have a stupid short 27.5 " draw on a PSE. That draw on many target bows is also the cross over point between the large cam and small cam versions. I wish bow manufacturers would give more overlap on their long vs short draw cams and modules. Most short cams stop at 28, the long draw starts at 27. It's a pain because. My 27.5 draw is dependent on the manufacture. I tried a Matthew's trx bow at 27.5, but it was too long, a bowtech 27.5 was too short.
I've been shooting trad recurve for a while and it took me about a month to get my proper anchor point and draw length. I've also found that most people's draw length become longer when they shoot recurves and long bows.
Thank You for being so informative . I really really appreciate your information, and coaching. Do you have an actual shop. I shoot with glasses and saw your video on shooting with glasses and would like to come to a shop for help with someone that apprecuates that problem.
About 3 months into taking archery more serious. I'm finding that the range of motion is increasing. Been shooting around 3000 arrows a month and improving my shot accuracy has been compromised slightly. I didn't know draw length could change at all. Thought it was a fixed and permanent thing. Thanks for the video.
Hey Dusty, real interesting how you are finding your draw length increasing, I've never heard anybody mention this before. They are probably just locked in to what they have . In the mountain bike world I experience exact same thing, my seat height (pedal stroke) may increase by 7mil from spring to fall. Took me quite awhile to get my head around this. Actually thought my seat post was slipping in the seat tube. Thanks.
I’m 5’10” and have used all three of these methods. 28” is super comfortable for me and I know from years of archery that 29” is too long. I’ve also shot 28.5 but 28” is just really more comfortable for me w/o really stretching out. When I’m the range all these guys 5’8” are using bows @ 29”+ just to say they’re 29” or to eek that little bit more speed. I just shake my head.
Great video. How does the length of your D-loop and length of you release impact draw length? I assume these instructions are when using a normal d loop length. What is the proper length for the release though? If you have it really long it could effectively move your hand further back from your face which you would need to shorten your draw length to compensate for.
This is assumed wrist release. One could almost add .5" to accommodate the short nature of a hand held. The dloop is not in question unless you're Tim Gillingham.
Very informative video. I am going to get the Hoyt RX7 Ultra. My draw length is 30”. Do you think I should get with the 27-30” module or the 30.5-32” ?
isn't draw length measured from the deepest notch (where the string would be) to the "back" of the bow? (Back in archery parlance meaning the outer face of the bow?)
Actual draw length is front of string to deepest part of grip at full draw, plus 1.75". Usually, that's very close if not exactly the edge of the facing away part of the bow shelf.
Hey Jack- for these draw length methods, is it referring to the mod or the actual draw length measured on a draw board? I’m trying to determine if my draw length is too long. Wingspan measurement gets me to 27.6, and have a 28 inch mod on my bow. However I was surprised to find on a draw board it’s measuring over 28.5 which seems like it would be way too long for me. Not sure why they make it so difficult to determine proper draw length when they fudge the numbers to get more speed presumably. Thanks
Glad to see things are going well at the shop. Ive been following the channel and gathering information for years. Keep rolling buddy.
Great to have you back into the videos. Looks great to see you in the new shop also and hope you are doing well.
Glad to see you back in the swing of making those highly informative videos after working tirelessly to get your shop open and running smoothly.
My previous bow, the single cam 2006 PSE Fire Flite 33 you tinkered with at your Teach N Train last summer was set at 29 in and 60 lbs. My newer PRIME Black 3 is set up at 29.5 in draw and 65 lbs. I am not sure if I can really tell which one is correct as long as my peep is good.
This is the best draw legnth vid ive seen
Great reminders on figuring out draw length. Great to see you behind the bench as well! ...it's still exciting think about you actually owning your own bow shop! 🙌🏻
Thank you for another informative video your channel has a been a big help to me
Thank you for another informative video I’ve gained a lot of good information from your channel
Congrats on the shop!!!!!!!🏹👍
Good to see you was able to find you're tape measure haha.
LOL
Best advice in archery. For me this guy
Love it dude!
Great tips in this video. thank you. Cool Shop too!
Good stuff thanks Jack!
Great video !
Sweet. I've been thinking about adjusting my draw length but wasn't sure how to go about it without unnecessary trial and error. Thanks.
1st! Woo hoo. Lol glad to see shop doing well and new vids
Those Bear bows are nice and easy to change the draw on. I have a Species and I did some changing just to see.. And I went back to 28" which is where I started LOL
Very helpful for what I have going on here, thank you! #subscribed
@5:00 wrt AMO DL: acc. to my knowledge that is actually not correct respectively that is not the AMO DL, but the "true" DL as it corresponds with the travel distance of the nock point to the pivot point of the bow grip. The "AMO" DL adds 1.75" to the true DL...
Why are people listing their height and weight in the comment section of all these videos? Im new to this and I thought that it was only draw length that matters?
Shop looks great! Yeah, that draw length thing is a bit of trial and error, and can vary by bow manufacturer and model. I am six feet tall and have a 30” draw, so I am a bit outside the box.
tried your last method; came up with nearly the EXACT draw length the bow shop came up with for me... "THANKS"
Very useful info for modern archery but anchor points vary depending on the culture and time period. Would of been nice to mention those…
I'm 6'4" tall. I have long monkey arms but....
Thanks to previous shoulder issues. I have a stupid short 27.5 " draw on a PSE.
That draw on many target bows is also the cross over point between the large cam and small cam versions.
I wish bow manufacturers would give more overlap on their long vs short draw cams and modules. Most short cams stop at 28, the long draw starts at 27.
It's a pain because. My 27.5 draw is dependent on the manufacture. I tried a Matthew's trx bow at 27.5, but it was too long, a bowtech 27.5 was too short.
I've been shooting trad recurve for a while and it took me about a month to get my proper anchor point and draw length. I've also found that most people's draw length become longer when they shoot recurves and long bows.
There are many different anchor points for trad recurve.
@@HistoricalWeapons I'm talking about more of a modern traditional archery with mediterranean draw.
Thank You for being so informative . I really really appreciate your information, and coaching. Do you have an actual shop. I shoot with glasses and saw your video on shooting with glasses and would like to come to a shop for help with someone that apprecuates that problem.
Did you watch the first 30 seconds of this video....? Lol! Yes. 21 N Front Street, Philipsburg, PA 16866
Thank you, I have learned so much already watching your videos.
About 3 months into taking archery more serious. I'm finding that the range of motion is increasing. Been shooting around 3000 arrows a month and improving my shot accuracy has been compromised slightly.
I didn't know draw length could change at all. Thought it was a fixed and permanent thing.
Thanks for the video.
Hey Dusty, real interesting how you are finding your draw length increasing, I've never heard anybody mention this before. They are probably just locked in to what they have . In the mountain bike world I experience exact same thing, my seat height (pedal stroke) may increase by 7mil from spring to fall. Took me quite awhile to get my head around this. Actually thought my seat post was slipping in the seat tube. Thanks.
I’m 5’10” and have used all three of these methods. 28” is super comfortable for me and I know from years of archery that 29” is too long. I’ve also shot 28.5 but 28” is just really more comfortable for me w/o really stretching out. When I’m the range all these guys 5’8” are using bows @ 29”+ just to say they’re 29” or to eek that little bit more speed. I just shake my head.
Great video.
How does the length of your D-loop and length of you release impact draw length? I assume these instructions are when using a normal d loop length. What is the proper length for the release though? If you have it really long it could effectively move your hand further back from your face which you would need to shorten your draw length to compensate for.
This is assumed wrist release. One could almost add .5" to accommodate the short nature of a hand held. The dloop is not in question unless you're Tim Gillingham.
I have also heard that bows (make/model) can also affect your draw length. Is that true?
Very informative video. I am going to get the Hoyt RX7 Ultra. My draw length is 30”. Do you think I should get with the 27-30” module or the 30.5-32” ?
The shorter one.
@@averagejackarchery thanks for your answer 🙌🏻
isn't draw length measured from the deepest notch (where the string would be) to the "back" of the bow? (Back in archery parlance meaning the outer face of the bow?)
Actual draw length is front of string to deepest part of grip at full draw, plus 1.75". Usually, that's very close if not exactly the edge of the facing away part of the bow shelf.
Nowhere does it say add a couple of inches to the wingspan method, just divide by 2 and 1/2…
Hey Jack- for these draw length methods, is it referring to the mod or the actual draw length measured on a draw board? I’m trying to determine if my draw length is too long. Wingspan measurement gets me to 27.6, and have a 28 inch mod on my bow. However I was surprised to find on a draw board it’s measuring over 28.5 which seems like it would be way too long for me. Not sure why they make it so difficult to determine proper draw length when they fudge the numbers to get more speed presumably. Thanks
I'm guessing a Mathews of some sort?
@@averagejackarchery yep!
Mathews Halon 32
@@samsimon5827 my halon x comp had the same problem so yeh
Don't you need to add 1.75 to your arrow method?
I am not average. I have 72.250" finger tip to finger tip. I am 5'10" tall.
Tall with short arms would make them a T-rex.😅😅
I guess I fall into the orangutan arm category.
I'm 5'8" and have a 29-inch draw.
Gonna miss the intro
your chest aint wide im 5 9 but my shoulders are wider then yours