Indian South Africans: The story of indentured labourers
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- čas přidán 24. 04. 2019
- Durban, South Africa is home to the largest concentration of Indians outside India. Today the diversity within the coastal city is celebrated, but it was not always that way.
For centuries, Indians were taken to South Africa as slaves and indentured slaves.
Indians spent years living under strict rules stripping them of their rights and freedoms.
As Nelson Mandela became an icon for freedom and justice for Black South Africans in the mid-to-late 20th century, there was a similarly popular figure who travelled from India to the African nation half a century earlier to become an icon for indentured labourers.
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Love to my brothers in South Africa from Trinidad in the Caribbean
Mr SG Thank you & right back at you from South Africa
Back to you from SA mate💕💕
black supremacist
Beautiful thing to say. Much love to you too. I love meeting Indians from all over the world.
love you back more
Im from the city of Durban in South Africa and we do have a huge population of South Africans of Indian descent in the world outside of India
Don't forget to tell the world how the "REAL" SOUTH AFRICANS want us go back to India....🤣💪
Send them back
@@timetoletgo4615 just like how West is calling to kick out all muslims ?
@@timetoletgo4615 so like how europe kicks you out... how you like that? except yall are illegals and these people been here since 1800s
@@timetoletgo4615
The Indians will never leave this country
We Indians built this country.
Both My great grandfathers came from Randir and Surat in Gujarat. Awesome to learn more about my family history. Thank you
SHENAAZ AJAM yoooo I live in Randir, surat, Gujarat!
Do u understand gujarati or it is lost now.
@@mrthinker321 I'm guessing it's lost now. Most Indian South Africans, as far as I'm aware, only speak English nowadays, and it's mostly only within the older generation who can speak their mother tongues (e.g. Hindi/Urdu, Bhojpuri, Gujarati, Tamil).
I am also from surat but now living in Canada.
Oh! Good to know that. I am Michael from India shall we get to know more about each other
love to my brothers n sisters in South Africa from Guyana my fore parent came from Lucknow,UP 1852 one love
hey buddy! im from UP, meerut (very close to lucknow)😊.
just wanted you to know, i think you might find it interesting, if sookram is your family's real last name, than you can search on google, the name of the villages where the people has your surname. most of the surname in india, are linked to specific villages (where the surnames might have originated) which has "devtas" (your ancestors) shrine.
this is a very ancient custom in india, going on from generation to generations, where we pray offerings to our ancestors, keeps us connected to them. so if you ever come to india, for vacation or anything, i think you should check your home village out and must take a visit to the shrine. 💖
@@vishuchaudhary1174 thank you for that information n yes Sookram is my real last name for 5 generation but in India I don’t know n also my mother side came for Rampur,UP
@@ganeshsookram4287 I'm also from UP allahabad☺
Up is fill with slums
@@atulsinghyadav718 allahabad isn't in gudgrat
Love you from India 🇮🇳🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙏
We love you too from South Africa.
Love you Indian people in South Africa same history in Fiji
Love from Malaysia, my grandparents came from Madras India. 💕 to all
South African Indian of Tamil origin and most of our forefathers in South Africa came from Madras aswell.
@@mattontop2262 , hi bro. We share the same story alike
@@anthonraj6168 we understand the struggle of our machas in Malaysia and Indonesia. We stand with yourll.
Didn't knew indisa from Malaysia..love from gt guyana
@@Sthmohtwenty , hi there from Malaysia.
my great grandparents where slaves from Indian but I didn't know much about it thanks for this video
The report at 1:35 min misses indians who were brought to Malaysia currently numbering 2 million
hello everybody my parents are from guyana west indies, guess where my great grandma came from.much love to my indians breds and sistren
Hi there,,,, I believe ur name came under French influence, in India it would probably be dharma kishan, ig. Anyways peace out ❤
I am Guyanese...Guyana on d main land of sth....America....but west indies influence
This video should be more popular so everyone can be educated
100% when a Scot/Irish say we were also colonized, there is a big different to that and to India. India have the friggin "Raj" title to the Brits and all of the people smuggling to various parts of the world..
Same with us, were fijian indian
My family too! Fijian and Trinidadian indian
@@jacenath8197 sorry but what is that ?
@@jacenath8197 Your surname shows about Indian origin, Nath community.
IT was lovely stopping over in Suva on a stopover. I was helped by a guy with a Tamil name and he showed me around. "Black" locals were so easy to chat and also started talking to be in Hindi...I also visited a Market, where the "indian" locals were selling lot of stuff and many were on kava..lol
I had southern indian vada(lentil dumpling) from a local grocery store and also visited the lovely hindu temple.
I was born in Suva, and came to UK in 1960. During Lockdown I found out about indentured labourers in Fiji, my great grandfather. I cried deep inside. I am now actively researching our history and about my brothers in the other countries taken by the British as slaves.
They shipped Indians 2 spread the flavor
India Will Rise Again, To Reclaim Her Ancient Past Glory, This Time Even Stronger Than Anything Seen On Earth! 🌎
😂
What glory? India's doing pretty well now
@@jeanniemaycrawford4466 no
Really hope soon though.. with all the key ingredients including people all over the world with indian connection/blood.
I wish I would be alive to see how Black Africans would be treated under that regime
They are South Africans...im from Pretoria South Africa
I am an Indian from Trinidad& Tobago,hope to visit S.A some day,bless
You won't regret it. Make sure you come to Durban, Kwa-Zulu Natal where the population of Indian origin people is the highest. Try the bunny chow which is our national street food (invented by us charous). P.S. South African Indians refer to ourselves as Charous, it's an accepted slang word and something we embrace and hold very dear. We often joke like "Hey I'm not an Indian, I'm a charou) lol. Which is not an act of denying our roots but rather a statement that we are South African Indians. You can't be called a charou if you're an Indian from any other country. Love from South Africa
You are also welcomed in United Kingdom
Don't come
Only the future count what happened in the past is history can't not be changed we must learn from mistakes and always looks forward in life hard work and education is the key for success in any society.
White ppl don't even admit their evil acts and you say we must learn from the mistakes
Wow that very last bit was a surprised..
Mr214 yeah
I am tamil in kzn south africa.grandad came from attur gangavalli salem india.after 40 years of toil returned and built a temple on family land.returned and lived in kzn.passed away in 1958.
We live amongst the most bloodthirsty race in the world.wish he had not come on the ss umzinto in 1896.real plucky man
If you are being treated in South Africa the way the Black African Sidi people are treated in India what would you say?
@jabaltariq4606 Muslim nations treat black people or dark skin people the worst . Look at the modern slaves in the Arab world. And don't forget it was the Arabs that's started the african slave trade
@@jabaltariq4606 black african Sidi people are treated extraodinary well, like i legtimately hear this all the time. They have their own communites where its 95% black, no one is going there and being racist. And if you go to a big city for more economic opportunity no one will care
@@jabaltariq4606They aren't slaves in India dude
@@jabaltariq4606siddis is have reservation by gov
Indians came as intended labours , worked hard and prospered where as Black's keep on complaining about Brits looting them .
Why didn't they prosper in India with the same hard work? Black people from Zimbabwe work harder than Indians, and face more discrimination from Blacks in South Africa!! And they still prosper
@@jabaltariq4606because the British stole their wealth. Do you know history. Are you Muslim??
Yeah right like why these slaves are complaining 😂😂😂😂 your comment shows what lack of education does to us
Yes they did complain😂😂 they where practically slaves
@@jabaltariq4606 Indians practically are much better than Blacks in Africa socially and economically
Trinidad, Guyana, Jamaica, Suriname , Grenada , St Vincent and Belize also had indentured laborship of Indians. Just to let you know little girl Trinidad, Guyana and Suriname also have the highest Indian population outside of India as well which u should have mentioned but thanks for mentioning Trinidad, Suriname and Guyana in this
Well, sweet pea, to just reiterate that the "little girl" was indeed correct...South Africa has over 1.5 million people of Indian descent, making it the country with the highest population of Indians outside of India........Not that this needs to be turned into a competition
Not nice to call someone “little Girl”. A note of gratitude for the research would be nicer.
Also mauritius
Didn’t know non of this 😳
katiea bona OMG YOU GUYS R RELATED OMGGG
The British brought us here to Cut the cane and pull out weeds, now we drink the cane and smoke the weeds ;-)
That was super PoiZon . Stay save .
Yeah nufffff love from gt 🇬🇾
The first Indians were brought by the Dutch
Btw, Gandhi did not do anything for the betterment of indentured labors. He only represented wealthy traders from Gujarat
Wrong Information! Gandhi Did Allot Of Good Things, Which The Colonization Hides From The Public! 🇬🇾
We Indians must be related to each other and lost our roots...sad indeed. I'm South African 3rd generation
African doesn't mean a black person. It means you're an African citizen. These people (which are my people too because my parents are from Mauritius and I'm from Botswana) and Egyptians, Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians, Libyans.etc who are arab/berber and any other race from Africa are Africans. Tired of people telling me I'm not African. It's not like we chose to be forcefully moved as slaves to Africa centuries ago just like how black people didn't choose that for themselves to be moved to America. Yet they are allowed be called American now but the indians in Africa aren't African? Nah
you don’t have African blood so that does not make you African I’m sorry to break it to you but people like you piss me off. I was born and raised in Australia and parents are too but that doesn’t make me Australian lmao. Most people who are born in a country don’t go out saying they’re this and that. You guys were literally slaves like other countries. African Americans don’t go saying I’m American. They usually call themselves black or African American but would never get out of their way to say they’re American. You’re literally full blood Indian living in an African country like stick to your own culture bro. You don’t know how it’s actually like being South African as a black person. They’re two different cultures. But you wouldn’t understand cause you ain’t black 😬
Lol
@@gillianmarie1893I’ve come across many African Americans saying they’re Americans. They say they’re African American if they’re discussing race. You don’t know what you’re talking about yet you talk about topics you have zero knowledge about like you’re some Nobel laureate expert. Quit embarrassing yourself in public.
Very interesting
Interesting because the local news in Surrey and Delta BC would have you believe that this is the largest community of Indians outside of India. I am learning about this. I moved to the Vancouver BC suburbs from the Portland Oregon area where there are not many people from India. I had one friend who was from Southern India who lives in Portland, Mr. Aaron. His company, Statesman Towncar, always contracted to drive around officials from India when they came to Oregon. I still don't know why the white people in Vancouver BC area call people from India "East Indian." Probably the typical ignorant labeling that is average white culture.
Thanks for the feedback. Surrey may be the largest number of Indians outside India, but Durban is the highest concentration of Indians outside India. You have to consider the population sizes of both cities and other metrics to define these definitions.
This is why I bought it up. Most of the people called "east Indian" are from Northern India and Pakistan.
People from India were labeled East Indians probably to differentiate them from Native Americans, who are also referred to as Indians.
Nothing to do with the North, East, South or West of the nation that is today called India. You have the East Indies and the West Indies. East Indies being the region that today consists of Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Myanmar, etc. West Indies being the region which today consists of Guyana, Carribean Islands, etc.
what's even more irritating and ignorant is being a Fijian-Canadian-American and having white Canadians (and other types of Canadians too) call me "East-Indian" or "Hindoo" or "Punjabi". Cuz Fiji is about as far away from India as Vancouver is, but Canadians see brown skin and think "oooo bud there's a hindoo!"
They never taught this in school
Which country
Indians are peace loving and hardworking. They are being attacked. Indians have to fight daily to protect their communities.
Indians are not peace loving people because they are separated by religion and caste systems. The Indians in Africa should be treated the same way Indians treat the Sidi people in India
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Awe , my fam
It's kinda sad how the last batch of British slaves are forgotten
They wee not British slaves!! They were Dutch slaves
As "community" Indians always fights very strongly.
Im from Durban, South Africa, White man tried to suppress us, but was Shocked to see the resistance, persistence, and determination. You cant hold an Indian down for long his bound to Raise!!!!!
I am glad the nation of South Africa is the most diverse nation in Africa. From a American who lives in the most diverse nation on earth. US American Air Force Security Police Military Veteran.
Because it is the most diverse nation in Africa, it is the most developed nation in Africa. The denialists can refute this and jump as high as they want. Its the truth.
@@nelsonchinasamy9857 chinaswamy title is a south indian pristine group hindu title.
@@swayamsouravdash2433 thanks, I didn't know that and can't even speak any Indian language.
@@nelsonchinasamy9857
Okay, but its not about that right now
@@nelsonchinasamy9857 No.
Love from Guyana
I'm South African. I have a lot of Indian South African friends and none of them wear dentures. Times really have changed.
lol
Likewise African wear fake hair etc lol
Hahaha thats a good one. I am Michael from India
Those grounds look like the ones in Sydenham
Great video. A little factual incorrect unless someone can prove me otherwise. I believe Indians first arrived to South African in 1860. Which is considered to be 19th century not 17th century.
I think the video is referring to the first wave of Indians coming to SA, which was during the time of the Dutch Cape Colony.
Here is a source of the number of slaves identified and country of origin.
Place of origin Number Percent
Africa 875 26.65
India 1195 36.40
Indonesia 1033 31.47
Sri Lanka 102 3.10
Malaya 16 0.49
Mauritius 6 0.18
Other and unidentified 56 1.71
Total 3283 100.00
(Note: The number from India includes those from the Indian subcontinent.).
Source: Frank R. Bradlow and Margaret Cairns, The Early Cape Muslims, page 102
First Khoisans were in Southern Africa first then Bantus then Europeans then South Asians.
@Sal m All semantics
What is a Bantu
Nelson Mandela
One thing I hate is that you all think Khoi-San people are not black. Black people have always been in South Africa just because the Jan van riebeeck found khoi-San people in Capetown it doesn't mean Basotho,Zulu, Batswana etc... Weren't living in South Africa. Jan van RIEBEECK did not explore the whole of South Africa that man arrived in Cape Town and stayed there.
Only Khoisans & Bantus Qualify as native South Africans cause they are native to the Continent of Africa. Anything else that sailed there is straight foreign.
The south african Indian story.
Alot went to belieze and Jamaica too
England
Love to Every Indian Bros and Sis from India only😂
Yes one side of my g/p was abducted by d British 2 guyana ...we need compensation from d british
the music is so bad
My grandparents came from Bihar and uttar pradesh
You forgot to mention Fiji
I’m black and Indian from North Carolina tho...but y some Indians look black and why some blacks look Indian? They say they relate tho
Troy McCollum aye me too😂
YoungxBigxSavage 2200 lol what tribe u from fam
I've noticed since coming to Durban some Indians definately look like black people apart from the hair. Even in South India.
@@TrevorKhaba indians doesn't look black(except the andamanese) at all go see the north indians and indians look more european with darker skin rather than africans.
Indians come in all shades. I saw a documentary once of people living on an island in India and they were still living untouched by modern civilization. They looked African including their hair. The Indian government was keeping their lifestyle intact and not allowing outsiders to mingle with them. From this I concluded that during some ancient age, Africans got to India and mixed with the population there resulting in the various shades of Indians.
pleease can someone tell me how Aparthied treated with Arabs/ Lebnanese?
@Yuukiverse lol but read in google that Lebnanese people lived with Whites??!
Isreal Palestine. HELLO!
Most where classified as white
Did British do the same with Africa divide and rule bcz Indian subcontinent was a very big country now india is little piece of Indian subcontinent
We help countries mate. We don't divide them
@@niranjandesai6766 that's a lie that British help any countries and if I agree with you then the biggest question why Britain need to help other countries also interfare in other country politics for 300 years
@jass by starting industrialisation
@@niranjandesai6766 yaa by ruining the small scale businesses . industrialarion doesn't necessary brings humanity and looting 1.3 billion trillion dollars and transposing our own food for themselves which leads death 5 lakhs people out of hunger, uncontrollable conversions ,is it industrialisation (list goes literally endless)? Britishers brings up industrialisation to complete their own needs because india have enough resources, skilled labourers. If india wouldn't there , god knows what will happen to them in ww2
@@BENNY-THE-DOG true😂😂 like how they have audacity to say that they don't divide the nation .....missionaries propaganda of spreading fake aryan invasion theory in order to divide north and South and same thing they have done in Africa
Indian from the coast of east Africa they have been going back and forward to India mansoon wind through trend ,boat builder also tout the swahili people and spices, silk, and textiles, they are not slaves they are here before any white man
Is the 1.4 billion number correct?
Yes
Ofc, come here and feel the heat and the crowded streets....
Its just something that I never wanted to get used to as an Indian but its my fate....
Come to America and prosper here 😊🇺🇲
Yeah and get caught at the border like those businessman’s sons. Your country is stable and thriving economically. You need to do it the legal way and wait till your called.
It's Africans, Europeans and Indians.. Zulu is a language not a peoples origin.
They weren't South Asians, they were Austro-asiatics
@Yuukiverse lol they were Austro-asiatics of India. South Asians went there later as merchant's and business man. People of bihar went later as Labourers and they got paid good money.
@Yuukiverse lol yea my g we’re mainly South Asian, i mean Austro what ever you call it. Could be maybe a different group?
so indians were taken from their Original homes as slaves so the slave traders were arabs, i love everyone and we are brothers and sisters no matter what happened. one love
Atleast us Brits weren't slave Traders or owners. We were first to abolish slavery🤟🏻
@@niranjandesai6766they were not the first one to abolish slavery
Afica so darrk that south india they look different....
sorry but what ?
what?
Shocking inhumane statement!
@@chrismathewjoseph1283 cuz you are propablly mixed with arabs and mangolians , most indians have straight hair like mangolid east asians , but thy have dark skin like aboriginal , just cuz you have darkskin doesnt mean we off same race/ethnic group
@@karmakarma9239 why ...Indian look different than African
sad to here it but one thing the INDIANS LIVING abroad (foreign countries) are divided by INDIAN CASTE SYSTEM the indians in abroad are divided themselves in the name of CASTE ,(caste Mentality) so the INDIAN CASTE SYSTEM is Dangerous for the INDIANS living IN abroad there is no unity BETWEEN THE INDIANS in the name of CASTE there is only Divison among the INDIANS in the name of CASTE. it is hard to say it but must tell.INDIANS are Racist between themselves in the name of CASTE (HIGH CASTE UPPER CASTE,,LOW CASTE UNTOUCHABLE CASTE OR SHUDRA CASTE so how to live in unity .. sorry to tell it
They all live there together. It's you who needs to stop dividing them.
But the caste mentality is still there.
@@japrosper1258 now infecting all over the world
@@MrKesavenare you of South Indian lineage?
Maha Atma Gandhi
dit was was jij net in mijn gedachte aan het vertellen was:
de truc is niet uitbetalen de truc is mij dood maken
je krijgt de groetjes van mij he
CPG maakt niks uit
groetjes ,
Prashant,
November 2018 t/m 9 Mei 2022
LFG als wapen
🥵😅
They drink gomuth
But popat Mohammad drunk 🐫🥛 piss and his followers are also drinking 🐫🥛
Both Hindu and Muslim consisted of the indentured labourers
Which country you from?
this is not treu i am banning this channel from my app
And ghandi had a nerve to be racist towards blacks.
I wonder why
We call them coolie in my country but they black too
we call blacks kaffir in my country
Yes your skin colour is black, white, mostly brown but we are not black. We are Indian
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India needs to expands to Africa
Now well the Guptas bought SA under Zuma.
No
No , we do not want you guys
@@anonymousadmiral2638 there's such a grrreat percentage of us already here...
@@shashikanaidoo5553 question don't get offended. Some Indians hate blacks right, but why are they living in a Continent full of many blacks. I mean I'm from West Africa Ghana and I've seen many Indians like Tamil Nadu and they're really nice.
Rip South Africa
Americans had nothing to do with this but somehow they will find a way to say it’s all America’s fault.
@Jackie Meintjes don't try to make the khoisan your fight all south Africa have monolid eyes they are Bantu you guys did the Bantu people wrong to this day and you owe them and apology they never attacked you first for you all to spread the genocidal lies you have all over the internet.
most things are America’s fault
America was at its infancy stages. From the 16th to the 19th Century America was busy fighting back the British, perpetrating genocide against Native Americans, then participating in the slave trade, and finally going into a Civil war to keep black people as slaves. Today some in America want black people to go back to Africa.
@@ghostdna8155 The Bantus will surely revenge & its going to be bloody.
Americans white are Europeans btw
Proud to be Sri Lankan 🇱🇰 Sri Lankans kickass
What is there proud to be Sri Lankan?
@@Mskumar247 they are shameful people..
@@dacionmichaelinnaidoo4250 why are they shameful because of the genocide?
Duh
Help your Tamils out then
I would like to know if they practice the caste system in this community
Sure do -- nothing wrong with that.
@@XTenjikuroninX
What?
Indians practice the caste system in South Africa?
@@lu881 Of course - its an integral part of culture.
@@XTenjikuroninX
Are you a South African-Indian?
@@lu881 Balito and Phoenix lolo
Ghandi looks like a black man
@Sharon CatoCato a racist sees another racist.
@Sharon Cato that word was prohibited in the 2000 act in parliament as derogatory, unfair discrimination and hate speech...
Gandhi was also one of the biggest anti black racists ever. I am happy that they are taking down his statue in Ghana. He has no right to be revered by anyone.
Racis
He is
It's time for the labours to go home
U sure ebola!
We are home
@@thechamp7513 you are not a labour
@Hilton Layman Hilton my people were oppressed and were deprived of their freedom so they could not participate in the economy, we don't even have more than 30 years of freedom, remember? I am not a settler, I was found here and was made to believe that I am from somewhere else, our history was altered with, those labours have an ancestoral land(India) we don't have one, the south would have grown on its own but investors saw the need to kill us for our land, we are still in the process of contributing, we are still on the path of getting educated and we also have a problem of corrupt leaders so cut us some slack and let us develop on our own, you cannot fight us for our land, it does not make sense at all, you won't catch us in India because we know our place of origin, contribute? my dad offered engineering skills to anglo american and harmony mines and my mother offered medical expertise to a state own hospital, nothing Indian owned, I am studying law and no Indian is funding my tution, don't get wrong I believe in one South Africa for all but how can you build a nation with people that look down on you?
@@niranjandesai6766 Labourer you meant
British Empire made Indian and Pakistan Country. There was no Indian language and people in the World before British Empire Colony
Hahaha. Your British empire is just 300 years old ..Hindu empire was their since 5000 years old ...when you whites were making cheese herding cows in 2000 years ago ..indians were writing ancient texts medical texts science texts..it's just cycle ..soon china and India will reclaim their position ..when china and India would degrade their ethical values they will get poor again and you Western too .. history don't start from ,from what you told in yur school
Lol ur facts. there is no indian Language we have 1000+ it's languages not language gay. Lol u Don't even know anything about india still making comments first make ur facts right.
Our india from the beginning is a
"Bird of Gold" before coming of British empire...
The Indian indus valley civilisation is the oldest civilisation in the world, sorry that your jealous we have history, technological advancements and culture unlike you Africans who were still hunter gatherers and living in straw huts by the time Europeans arrived.
The oldest civilization is Sumerian as of date by record going back 10000 years. At any rate having the oldest civilization doesn’t make any country or people any better. That’s a wet dream. Power is power and right now the current super powers hold them strong because of the economic environment.
More politically correct nonsense. India was never a country before the British came. It was a dirt poor land with illiterate farmers. The British came and for two hundred years significantly IMPROVED the lives of Indians. The British developed roads, infrastructure, a system of education with schools and colleges. Introduced the English language. Introduced sports like cricket, field hockey and track and field. Later the British helped developed a government and finally helped India become an independent country in 1947. I should know I am from India, I was born there, both my parents were born there and all four of my grandparents and all eight of my great-grandparents were born there.
Dirt poor land 😂 did ur mother drop u on yr head 🥴🤣
Lol nice joke. India was always in the top 2 richest countries on earth (alongside China) before the Brits came along. There's a reason the Brits regarded it as the crown jewel of their empire, and hint, it wasn't because they were 'dirt poor' as you claim.
@@thecrimsondragon9744 💯
Britain did not United india it was sardar vallabh bhai patel
Britain did not developed india
We call them coolie in my country but they black too
Lol no man its makhula but not all the time its more like Marndeeyaa
Which is u country
Some Indians might b dark but they hair ent twisted and wugggeeee. Mf racist u lot r a.l d