KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
    ===
    00:00 Intro
    00:53 KLM’s background
    02:54 First reason
    04:30 Second reason
    05:22 Third reason
    06:52 Opportunity for Boeing?
    08:42 Concluding
    ====
    #fligavia #boeing #airbus #aviation #a350
    ===
    KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
    The national airline of the Netherlands - KLM was founded in 19 19, and is the oldest airline on earth. The airline has a long history dating back to World War 2, the post-war period and the jet aircraft boom. Until now, this is still an important bridge connecting Europe with other regions of the world. This delicious piece of cake always makes both Boeing and Airbus compete to bring the plane into KLM's fleet.
    KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
    And until now, Boeing has absolutely dominated almost the entire airline fleet. As a result, when news broke that KLM wanted to upgrade its long-haul fleet, people believed they would continue to choose Boeing aircraft, specifically the 7 8 7. But surprisingly they decided to choose Airbus A3 50 instead. So what's going on? Why does KLM build its future fleet based on Airbus? Let’s find out!
    KLM’s background
    KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why
    First about the history of KLM, as mentioned above The airline was founded in 19 19 and in 2004 KLM joined SkyTeam, an international airline alliance. The same year, the airline was acquired by Air France to create Air France - KLM, one of the world’s largest air carriers. But it is different from some other recent airline mergers such as those of two US airlines, United Continental and Delta Northwest.

Komentáře • 770

  • @ResizeFilms
    @ResizeFilms Před 22 dny +13

    Great move! The Airbus A350 is absolutely stunning in every aspect. Advanced technology, fuel efficiency, spacious cabin, and comfortable passenger experience. Well done!

  • @Jeeve_Stobs
    @Jeeve_Stobs Před 9 dny +20

    Love that AI narrator!
    Said no one ever.

  • @gordonbritton3215
    @gordonbritton3215 Před 17 dny +9

    It used to be if it ain’t Boeing I ain’t going! It’s now if it’s Boeing I ain’t going!!!

  • @wakandadam
    @wakandadam Před 16 dny +7

    You know, Ive heard about those quality control issues with the Boeing 787. Personally, Id rather opt for the Airbus A350 any day for peace of mind.

  • @RiemsAI
    @RiemsAI Před 12 dny +9

    I think the future of commercial airliner is Airbus and not Boeing, and KLM made a great decision in the long run.

  • @christopheblanchi4777
    @christopheblanchi4777 Před 23 dny +157

    Boeing is in such a sad state. They have lost their reputation hard earned over decades of making great products. All of the McDonnell Douglas management and its philosophy needs to be exorcised out of Boeing. Hopefully, it is not too late.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 23 dny +5

      I agree with u, they need to take action to change in the future

    • @MiturBinEsderty
      @MiturBinEsderty Před 23 dny +13

      You have no idea what you are talking about name one person from MD in Boeing management. The merger was 27 years ago. And if the merger was so MD influenced why were MD airplanes killed off in favor of Boeing.
      The 787 is not a A350 competition it’s a A330 sized aircraft. The 787 is a 767 replacement.
      Airbus isn’t bringing new innovations to the market like Boeing they Introduced one new aircraft in the last 20 years. Everything else was re engined jets
      This is being over blown on CZcams because people like this guy need stories to write about.
      Without ever spending one day working in aviation.

    • @qisenwang370
      @qisenwang370 Před 23 dny +14

      It’s not a sad story… Boeing earned it themselves by cutting cost and putting money in front of safety. The are digging themselves in their own hole. Real story from a 737-800 pilot:
      The 737 was an amazing aircraft in the 60s, but Boeing turned it into a beast by always increasing fuselage length and putting larger engines that don’t even fit under the wings. On the 900 variant, if you rotate with a speed of more than 2*/sec, you are having a tails strike…

    • @sirisobhakya
      @sirisobhakya Před 22 dny +9

      ⁠@@MiturBinEsdertyWait. 1 in the last 20 years? The A380’s first flight is in 2005, and the A350 newer than it. That makes 2. Boeing on the other hand has only the 787. Am I missing something?

    • @MiturBinEsderty
      @MiturBinEsderty Před 22 dny +1

      @@sirisobhakya Ok goof 19 years if I take your date of first flight not when the A380 was announced developed and built. And they lost over 20 billion on that project. It was the largest amount lost on an aircraft in aviation history. And I wasn’t saying that Boeing had more new aircraft introduced. You are missing something INTELLIGENCE.

  • @tomicaguyusa4633
    @tomicaguyusa4633 Před 20 dny +14

    “KLM Says "GOODBYE" to the 787 and turning to A350! Here's Why” because the a350 is genuinely better🗿

    • @mohwybar5832
      @mohwybar5832 Před 19 dny

      Neither is “better” that up to opinion

    • @GBOAC
      @GBOAC Před 14 dny

      @@mohwybar5832 point being nowadays more airlines hold the opinion the A350 is better

    • @mohwybar5832
      @mohwybar5832 Před 14 dny

      @GBOAC airlines don’t hold opinion. I’m pretty sure the 787 has more operators than a 350

  • @d8889
    @d8889 Před 22 dny +22

    KLM has been the most loyal Boeing customer. The fact that the dutch carrier is switching its preferences to the european manufacturer goes beyond the price/technical differences between the two aircrafts. Boeing is a company not to be trusted anymore and a serious airline cannot afford to put its business at risk because of it. Well done KLM!

    • @colinbrown9549
      @colinbrown9549 Před 22 dny +2

      This loyal Boeing customer - really??? One that flew the DC8, DC9, DC10, MD11, A310 and still flies the A330

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Před 22 dny +2

      @@colinbrown9549193 Boeing aircraft versus 80 DC/MD and 22 Airbus aircraft. (Current and past) I’d say they used to be pretty loyal to Boeing.

    • @d8889
      @d8889 Před 21 dnem

      @@colinbrown9549 yes my friend, in its recent history KLM proudly stated to have an all Boeing fleet introducing its firs A330 in 2012 only. True that in the past they made use of different manufacturers as well

    • @colinbrown9549
      @colinbrown9549 Před 21 dnem

      @@d8889 KLM have been operating A330's from 2005 to this day, they operated DC10's and MD11's from the early 70's to 2014 a and DC8's and DC9's from the 60;s tomnthe 80's, I'm not sure KLM have ever been a Boeing only customer

    • @d8889
      @d8889 Před 20 dny

      @@colinbrown9549Probably my english is not good enough to explain myself. All I wanted to say is that KLM has in modern times had a privileged relationship with Boeing. I am aware that it has had aircraft produced by other manufacturers in its fleet. Personally I miss the old MD11s!

  • @paulroling1781
    @paulroling1781 Před 22 dny +9

    You forgot to mention that KLM is also transitioning from the 737NG to the A321Neo. Pilot commonality between Airbus types is much better than between Boeing types.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 22 dny

      Thanks for reminding me, Paul

  • @cnchristopher257
    @cnchristopher257 Před 16 dny +9

    Being is receiving karma from all the whistle blowers they've made dissappear

  • @rdembow
    @rdembow Před 21 dnem +8

    Boeing was not obviously paying attention to each plane manufactured! It’s a shame, the board of directors need to take responsibility here as well. They need a major overhaul and the unions need to step up as well, their personnel and Boeing management at the floor level have created chaos for themselves. Airbus is being attentive and keeps on building!!!

  • @9255cris
    @9255cris Před 7 dny +9

    A350 masterpiece !!! everything is better in Airbus, safety of course too !!!!!

  • @FrewstonBooks
    @FrewstonBooks Před 22 dny +9

    Add to the A350's advantages is the fact that it is simply a quieter and nicer plane to fly on.

    • @gosekinz
      @gosekinz Před 22 dny +1

      best airliner currently in service.

    • @mindplanes
      @mindplanes Před 22 dny +1

      It's also more spacious..

    • @chipdale490
      @chipdale490 Před 21 dnem

      Yep, on a 777 I always use earplugs because of the a/c noise level inside. It's ridiculous.

  • @bobdobalina838
    @bobdobalina838 Před 16 dny +9

    Plus the wings probably won't fall off the airbus A350. 😅

    • @wl03bu
      @wl03bu Před 16 dny +3

      I'm surprised this wasn't the main point. Buying planes from a company without a culture of safety is bad move.

    • @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
      @AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc Před 6 dny

      Dumb is as dumb does, period.

  • @maryrafuse2297
    @maryrafuse2297 Před 6 dny +7

    Their is an interesting fact that no one mentions and no one seems to get, especially Americans. Holland and Canada are unofficially and officially very close, as close as nation states can be. This comes from the liberation of Holland by Canadian Soldiers in WW2 and the Dutch Royal Family living in Ottawa during World War 2. Queen Beatrix attended Primary School in Canada and her sister Princes Margaret was born in Ottawa in 1943. While the Dutch Government may have refrained from comment no doubt they noticed when Boeing attempted to kill the Bombardier C Series and drive Bombardier into bankruptcy . It was Airbus, not Boeing, that eventually supported the C Series now called the Airbus A-220 100 & 300. People in both America and Europe should note that schoolchildren in Holland still look after the graves of Canadian Soldiers and large immigration to Canada from Holland followed World War 2. A whole lot of factors likely influence the decision for KLM to prefer a European builder. Boeing's inferior aircraft construction and quality control are but one factor to be considered. At this time Boeing is simply throwing together aircraft in an effort to reduce costs. Now the world knows this!

  • @viscount757
    @viscount757 Před 12 dny +8

    Clickbait title implies KLM is disposing of their 787s which is not correct. The 787-10 was never designed to have equivalent range to the 787-9 or A350. It's primarly intended for shorter routes which need higher capacity.

  • @tristanhnl
    @tristanhnl Před 5 dny +6

    The 787 absolutely is not going anywhere, nor is KL saying goodbye to it. The 787 competes with the A330/neo, not the A350. KL has 772 and 773 in their fleets, and those will need to be replaced eventually. And that's where the A350 comes in. The A359 competes with the 772/778 and the A3510 competes with the 773/779.
    With the 778/779 so incredibly delayed (and who knows if there may be more), and because of all the other advantages highlighted in the video regarding the A350 series, it makes sense to go with the A350. The 787-10 is at best a 772 replacement, and as said in the video, its range is very lacking. Boeing needs to get an -ER version to compete, although with all the problems at the company at the moment designing an ER variant is not exactly priority. They need to go back to making safe planes, period.
    I wouldn't be surprised if KL makes a top up order for the 787, particularly the -9. I also wouldn't be surprised if they get more A350s, both the -900 and -1000. But anyway, the 787 will continue to be a mainstay and workhorse in the KL fleet.

  • @winfriedbij684
    @winfriedbij684 Před 22 dny +4

    KLM is a wonderful airliner, good and intelligent staff at all levels. You'll notice it if you fly with them.

  • @brianmckay9976
    @brianmckay9976 Před 14 dny +9

    Boeing's quality contirol leaves much to be desire.

  • @robertovandenheijkant9897

    That is not right. The A350 replaces the 772 and the A330 versions.

  • @Brownie1969
    @Brownie1969 Před 19 dny +8

    As a Dutch citizen and passenger, I’m very happy with the KLM switch to Airbus. I’ve flown quite a bit around the world with both brands and I find Airbus simply to be the better and more comfortable plane to travel in. So job well done for our KLM.

  • @kmilton1593
    @kmilton1593 Před 14 dny +10

    KLM made a good decision. In the last four years things have changed: that is, maybe passengers are safer flying in a A350. And it is made nearby as well.

  • @oluseyeajose-adeogun2642

    You’re misinforming people into thinking KLM don’t already have a TON of 787s. So it’s not like they’re choosing the a350 over it, it’s just an addition

  • @HotakaPeter
    @HotakaPeter Před 7 dny +23

    "Boeing has worked hard to fix these problems". Utter nonsense. The ultimate source of Boeings problems is a poor culture and a lack of understanding of the costs of poor quality. Nothing Boeing has done recently shows any appriciation of the underlying source of its problems, which still remain unaddressed.

    • @sergeyyatskevitch3617
      @sergeyyatskevitch3617 Před 7 dny +1

      The best way to get boeing addressing those problems is to allow the US flag carriers to fly airbus planes. Boeing should like this idea, as it is an embodiment of “diversity, equity and inclusion”, which is very high on the list of boeing priorities :)

    • @qmacker
      @qmacker Před 6 dny +1

      @@sergeyyatskevitch3617 They do fly Airbus aircraft. I just flew on one with American.

  • @philbrinsley2876
    @philbrinsley2876 Před 7 dny +6

    If its Boeing im not going. I value my safety.

    • @qmacker
      @qmacker Před 6 dny

      Boeing certainly have their problems but you are not assessing risk in a cogent manner. Take Southwest Airlines for example. They have approx. 4,000 flights PER DAY on an all Boeing fleet. They have never had a hull loss in 52 years. Similarly, Ryanair operates approx. 1,800 flights PER DAY on an all Boeing fleet and have also had zero hull losses. If you are that risk averse, you probably shouldn't leave your house.

  • @christian-jakobgrasl
    @christian-jakobgrasl Před 11 dny +6

    can`t wait to see an A350 in KLM colors

  • @Altenholz
    @Altenholz Před 3 dny +2

    I would never have thought it's possible, that Boeing would fall so brutally behind Airbus. But the facts mentioned, if they are correct, speak for themselves.

  • @bernardlanguillier7970
    @bernardlanguillier7970 Před 17 dny +5

    Boeing is an amazing company with a remarkable legacy, it's really unfortunate so see the current situation they are in. I believe that everybody would benefit from a healthy Boeing able to keep pushing the envelope to make flying more sustainable while maintaining a top notch safety track record. This being said, the current commercial success of Airbus is well deserved.

  • @ferdinandhendriks3507
    @ferdinandhendriks3507 Před 22 dny +7

    As long as they say goodbye to the decades old 777s, they are falling apart and pretty uncomfortable on long flights.

  • @ethercruiser1537
    @ethercruiser1537 Před 20 dny +8

    I would also avoid Boeing at this time. You can’t trust the safety of the 787!

    • @brentsummers7377
      @brentsummers7377 Před 20 dny +1

      After the battery issues 10 years ago they have had a solid record. No hull losses or accidents with fatalities. Dispatch reliability right up there with the B777 and A380. Having said that I'd prefer to travel in one made at the Everett plant rather than the South Carolina plant...

    • @ethercruiser1537
      @ethercruiser1537 Před 20 dny +1

      @@brentsummers7377 You aren’t keeping up with the whistleblowers and continued quality issues! Boeing seems to be trying to SILENCE THEM PERMANENTLY 😮!!!

    • @mohwybar5832
      @mohwybar5832 Před 19 dny

      The 787 is the statistically safest plane ever made. 0 fatalities across more flights than any other 0-fatalities airliner. Also there isn’t any evidence that Boeing murdered any whistleblower

  • @georgemurray2901
    @georgemurray2901 Před 22 dny +5

    BA fly’s 787’s on its longest route London to Santiago Chile with no problem!

    • @Charles-sn7zy
      @Charles-sn7zy Před 22 dny +5

      Exactly, and Qantas does the same with the 787-9 , flying well past it's stated range with ease..
      Another AB fanboy infomercial!!

  • @arjandeboer651
    @arjandeboer651 Před 23 dny +7

    Thank God! KLM has finally seen the light…..

  • @kevinrichard100
    @kevinrichard100 Před 21 dnem +6

    Safety and Quality too.

  • @Charles-sn7zy
    @Charles-sn7zy Před 22 dny +10

    Comparing the range of the 787 -10 vs.airbus ,yet blatantly omits any comparison to the -9, which offers outstanding economics and range !!
    Another AB troll video.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 22 dny

      thanks for your feedback

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Před 21 dnem

      True to a certain extent, but not really an AB troll video because of other vids I have seen, he is just missing some key facts. The 787 is in a class of its own and was the original game changer. The A350XWB wad an answer to the 777 domination. KLM just recently received new 787-10's. The A350 is a 777 replacement and a supplement to the 787. There would be NO A350 if there was no 787. The original A350 id now nothing more than the A330NEO.

  • @olivernaufal
    @olivernaufal Před 19 dny +5

    The A350 is by far the best plane I've been on in terms of comfort

    • @rogernichols1124
      @rogernichols1124 Před 19 dny

      I agree.I flew Last year on Air France Paris-Osaka and later n BA Vancouver-LHR. Both really great experiences. I love the A350.

    • @goytabr
      @goytabr Před 19 dny

      Of course, as with any plane, that depends on the airline and the seat configuration. I doubt that you'd find an A350 of French Bee (up to 480 seats on the A350-1000!) or Air Caraïbes (almost the same) very comfortable. But the lower cabin altitude might still make a difference on a very long flight, at least compared to another "sardine can" configuration on a different model.

    • @olivernaufal
      @olivernaufal Před 16 dny

      @@goytabr let’s leave the world of low cost airlines aside :)

  • @Valkenier11
    @Valkenier11 Před 21 dnem +7

    A350 will replace the A330's and older B777's. That's how it is

  • @AganKunic-mi4pi
    @AganKunic-mi4pi Před 5 dny +4

    Boeing needs to replace the bankers and bean counters on its board of directors with actual aeronautical engineers. Back the way it started and built itself and its reputation. It’s not too late.

  • @NicotineRosberg
    @NicotineRosberg Před 21 dnem +29

    AI narration has come far. Still don't like it tho

    • @bogan-slayer7469
      @bogan-slayer7469 Před 7 dny

      He has copied this from another channel and recreates the audio with Ai.
      It’s copied from Coby Explanes.

    • @hauskalainen
      @hauskalainen Před 5 dny

      it's horrible

  • @CDConsulting
    @CDConsulting Před 10 dny +8

    It looks like this video and its content delivered by AI. The text just doent make sense and detached from each other.

  • @stevemclean9411
    @stevemclean9411 Před 22 dny +5

    KLM was a Douglas airline for most of its existence, not boeing.

  • @joebarrett4353
    @joebarrett4353 Před 22 dny +8

    I think European carriers should support European manufacturers. Both Holland and France build components of Airbus planes, so they help to keep their nationals in work. Why send all those Euros to the USA?

    • @nathrebs9107
      @nathrebs9107 Před 21 dnem +1

      a lot of airbus components are made from US, that's why airbus planes are also considered a US airplane.

  • @eugenwohlgemuth6873
    @eugenwohlgemuth6873 Před 18 dny +6

    As a passenger safety and trust is important and Boeing is no longer a favourite

  • @eekamoose
    @eekamoose Před dnem

    Big shout-out to Boeing's top management and their well-deserved bonuses.

  • @matejceglar3848
    @matejceglar3848 Před 11 dny +7

    This could be 1.5min video

  • @PlaneSpotterRVer314
    @PlaneSpotterRVer314 Před 23 dny +6

    Boeing is in such disarray right now that the A350s are a way better choice for KLM. They also can use the A350s with its longest flights. I wish American or United kept their A350s but they instead took the 787

  • @clarazegarelli5861
    @clarazegarelli5861 Před 17 dny +2

    remember when the saying went "if it is not Boeing I am not going", now its all the way around, I came back from south America in a 737 max 8, I was nervous.

  • @Scooterplace773
    @Scooterplace773 Před 22 dny +8

    Another clickbait vid..
    The 787 isn't going away anytime soon in the KLM fleet..
    The do operate the 787 9 Einstein...

    • @widget787
      @widget787 Před 22 dny +1

      Plus the 787-10. Airbus Fanboys.

  • @widget787
    @widget787 Před 22 dny +5

    Too all not really watching the video and only bashing around in the comments: the KLM 787s won't go anywhere anytime soon, there are even some open deliveries. Also theres a good chance that later on Air France and KLM will operate the 777-9.

    • @siltee9983
      @siltee9983 Před 22 dny

      Comforting for boeing that there is no choice. Only selling argument that american shit has left

  • @danielmoineuse
    @danielmoineuse Před 18 dny +6

    Air France is operating Boeing aircrafts for up to 60% of its long haul fleet. Including 10 787 Dreamliner. Saying AF is an Airbus operator and KLM a Boeing operator is not accurate

  • @aluminium3574
    @aluminium3574 Před 15 dny +15

    If it’s a Boeing, Iam not going

  • @Steve257
    @Steve257 Před 10 dny +10

    AI! Grrrrr I can’t stand this AI voice scripts. Terrible

  • @Rens787
    @Rens787 Před 21 dnem +5

    They will still operatie the 787, the 777-200 and the a330 will make place for the a350

  • @dasmaurerle4347
    @dasmaurerle4347 Před 22 dny +3

    Can't wait to see the A350 in the beautiful blue KLM delivery❤❤

  • @rln970
    @rln970 Před 17 dny +9

    Might Boeing's loss of engineering ability and their pathetic quality might have influenced this

  • @QCCatPlanes
    @QCCatPlanes Před 16 dny +9

    Wish a *_real_* person narrated, not this robot

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 15 dny +1

      thanks for your feedback, we'll use real voice soon

  • @aigul5881
    @aigul5881 Před 20 dny +2

    KLM’s planes are always so chic. They are so beautiful. Their gorgeous design and that beautiful color ❤

    • @GistCafe
      @GistCafe Před 19 dny +1

      The colour is truly beautiful

    • @ak1ranger
      @ak1ranger Před 19 dny +1

      I'd suggest not flying on one of their older 737-900s, they are pretty shabby! and no first class!

  • @knightsnight5929
    @knightsnight5929 Před 22 dny +8

    Why anyone in their right mind would buy Boeing is a mystery

    • @nicofink5678
      @nicofink5678 Před 22 dny +1

      It’s actually smart except for the 737 max. Because you can convert almost every Boeing model into a freighter. Can’t do it with airbus.

    • @Dischingo
      @Dischingo Před 21 dnem

      @@nicofink5678 Uhm A321 and A320 have a freighter variation, A350 has a freighter variation, A300 has a freighter variation and the A330 has a freighter variation those are the ones that can be ordered from the factory or converted.

    • @Dirk-van-den-Berg
      @Dirk-van-den-Berg Před 21 dnem

      You are talking about Alaska Airlines, Ryanair, American Airlines? They decided to go all Boeing, mostly because of financial reasons and are reaping the sour fruits from that imbalanced decision.
      They don't have to retrain pilots, no new groundengineers necessary, and they get a big discount for large orders.

    • @jamillikan
      @jamillikan Před 20 dny +1

      It is fallacy to buy Boeing as they circle the drain.

    • @mohwybar5832
      @mohwybar5832 Před 19 dny

      Because their planes are right for their needs and very safe

  • @narmerjimz689
    @narmerjimz689 Před 18 dny +3

    Recently I flew the KLM 787 from Costa Rica to the Netherlands, I love KLM crews and service , but I found the 787 VERY uncomfortable and noisy.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 18 dny

      thanks for sharing your experience!

    • @Inkling777
      @Inkling777 Před 18 dny +1

      Keep in mind that, while Boeing recommends various interior arrangements, the airline determines that. "Uncomfortable and noisy" is what an airline may pick to cram more people in and save money. That's why some people love flying in a 787 and some hate it. Blame the airline not Boeing.

  • @nizhat
    @nizhat Před 13 dny +2

    The real reason is the Europe finally started prioritizing their own interests than USA.

  • @leolioniii8646
    @leolioniii8646 Před 22 dny +5

    Honestly, the 787 will stay with KLM for at least 10 years, as the huge A350 order (the majority) is destined for Air France. Air France plans to give the 10 787-9s to KLM. And I don't know if we'll see a 777x in the fleet as many airlines are putting their orders on hold because of the recent problems with Boeing. Also, there's a lot of criticism of Boeing in the French media, I think a lot of French people think Boeing is crap even though they've made some very good planes (the 777 has a long history in the Air France fleet). Just wait and see

    • @leolioniii8646
      @leolioniii8646 Před 22 dny

      @@ronmurray7349 btw I know klm is a long client of boeing, but air france has always buy boeing due to the French government for diplomacy with USA reason. But since Ben Smith became CEO and brought good results and profit for AFRKLM, + ecological measure in EU. It's natural that we choose EU fuel efficient aircrafts. And AF got a lot of troubles with their 787-9. When I say wait and see, I'm waiting for the 777x to see what boeing reserves us.

    • @mohwybar5832
      @mohwybar5832 Před 19 dny

      French media always criticizing Boeing. But like airbus is French so it makes sense

  • @waynemerlo7448
    @waynemerlo7448 Před 4 dny +3

    Stay safe folks. Fly Airbus👍

  • @MrSiwilks
    @MrSiwilks Před 18 dny +11

    Sorry can't follow as the AI narration is horrendous!

    • @bftdr
      @bftdr Před 17 dny +1

      uh350

    • @AdityaKashyap-mg5cw
      @AdityaKashyap-mg5cw Před 16 dny

      @MrSiwilks that too is a copy paste of another video that was uploaded in Oct,2023
      czcams.com/video/36tPQN38U7E/video.htmlsi=Os9UcaXf3z2pDFBX

  • @rickwhite4137
    @rickwhite4137 Před 23 dny +5

    Also take into accounts all the problems Boeing has run into when they shifted the main focus to the stock market instead of the engineers. It will take many years to correct all the problems. Buying Boeing aircraft today is a risky sport.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 23 dny

      You’re absolutely right!

  • @imdannymartins
    @imdannymartins Před 8 dny +3

    Embraer needs to make bigger planes now😄

  • @dmcr9525
    @dmcr9525 Před 22 dny +7

    Where do you come up with these lies????? KLM recent got 787-10's and have no plans to get rid of those or their 787-9's.

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 Před 21 dnem +2

      Because the fail to check the facts.

    • @Dirk-van-den-Berg
      @Dirk-van-den-Berg Před 21 dnem

      No lies. KLM actually ordered 350's.

    • @jeromeprins6164
      @jeromeprins6164 Před 21 dnem +4

      ​@@Dirk-van-den-Bergthey did but not to replace the 787.

    • @dmcr9525
      @dmcr9525 Před 21 dnem +2

      @@Dirk-van-den-Berg Anyone who is a true aviation fan already knows this. What the OP is saying is in fact lies....... We knew KLM was ordering A350's years ago. They are NOT to replace the 787.... They are to supplement the 787. The A350 is a 777 replacement. Their 787's tap a whole different market....

  • @chrisreed3929
    @chrisreed3929 Před 9 dny +5

    I flew business on a 787. It was lovely though not as good as an A380.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 9 dny

      yeah thanks for sharing your experience

  • @josemansilha184
    @josemansilha184 Před 16 dny +5

    Boeing is a mess when compared with Airbus. In every aspect. Just look at the cockpit differences

  • @lisaco1
    @lisaco1 Před 19 dny +3

    The competition for A350 is 77X not 787-10, especially for the range and capacity

  • @mnztr1
    @mnztr1 Před 14 dny +9

    Its inaccurate to say Russia closed its airspace to International airlines. Many airlines still fly though Russian airspace. Only nations that have banned Russian airliners have faced reciprocal bans.

  • @mitsman1
    @mitsman1 Před 5 dny +8

    If It’s Boeing,I’m not going. Good decision of KLM !

  • @peteremmett8332
    @peteremmett8332 Před 15 dny +4

    The Good Choice. In my humble opinion the A-350 is the best plane in the sky. I think the 787 pales by comparison. I once flew Emirates on an early 787-800 and we landed in Dubai. Now I don't know if they have a badly corrugated airstrip there, but I thought the thing was going to shake itself to pieces on landing...Unbelievable...really..!! Like a bucket of bolts.

    • @mickvonbornemann3824
      @mickvonbornemann3824 Před 12 dny

      Just compare an old 747 to a 777 in regards the handling of turbulence. I been on over half a dozen flights on the 747 & never been bounced about, while it’s happened every time I’ve been on the 777

    • @lactran7475
      @lactran7475 Před 12 dny

      @@mickvonbornemann3824 Amazingly I had the same experience, super smooth with little turbulence on the 747 but quite a lot on the 777 and A350. Of course turbulence is caused by outside elements, but when it is consistent (at least 10 times on each type), I cannot help thinking the designs play some role here.

  • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549

    So KLM was founded in 1919. Apparently that’s really important because they repeatedly mentioned it. I’m not sure why because Airbus weren’t around then.

  • @Remie1529
    @Remie1529 Před 22 dny +8

    Very bad robot voice

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 22 dny

      thank you for the feedback

  • @Inkling777
    @Inkling777 Před 18 dny +3

    Although it is not being discussed, Boeing made a major blunder moving much of its assembly to Charleston, SC. They failed to understand the cultural issues of the region and went for the lowest labor cost. In general manufacturing in the U.S. is moving to the Southeast because the lower living costs and the lack of unions make labor costs less. That's one reason for Boeing's move away from Seattle.
    -But the South is not culturally uniform. Over a century and a half after emancipation, the effects of slavery still linger. In some regions slavery destroyed the work ethic for both whites and blacks. Working hard was what slaves did. That's primarily in a region where flat land and a fertile black soil called the Black Belt meant cotton grew well.
    -Other regions of the South, primarily those with hilly land and poor soil were populated with small independent farmers who had to work hard to survive. There the work ethic was strong along with a Scot-Irish independence. If you treated someone well, they treated you well. If you treated them badly, they responded accordingly.
    -Boeing's blunder was all too obvious to those who know the South. It went to Charleston, SC because labor costs there were low. It failed to realize that those costs were low because the poor work ethic made locating their unappealing to savvy companies. Charleston lies in the heart of the Black Belt and was major center for selling slaves.
    -Boeing could have located those new plants in Huntsville, AL where it owned over 400 acres next to the airport. The area is so technical astute it built the huge Saturn V that put NASA on the moon. But the presence of a well-education population with a solid work ethic meant labor costs would be much higher. That Boeing management hated. As we have seen in other areas, maximizing profits mattered above all else.
    -Boeing chose to go cheap and is now paying a price for that blunder. It is struggling to instill a work ethnic in a population that, white and black, has lacked one for two centuries and more. In endures because those who want to work hard and get ahead get frustrated with such a culture and move elsewhere.
    _You can read more about this in the Wikipedia article "Black Belt in the American South."_

  • @tomlee7956
    @tomlee7956 Před 16 dny +3

    Boeing builds the best airplanes (simplistic) for pilots and Airbus builds the best airplanes for passengers (comfortable & quiet.)

  • @grahamh2424
    @grahamh2424 Před 14 dny +3

    In the early to mid 1990's, Russian airspace was closed. I remember flyinĝ from Hong Kong to London. It over 14 hours. It has just gone back to those times.

  • @smeary10
    @smeary10 Před 20 dny +4

    To be honest the 787 does not compete with the A350. They're in completely different categories. The 777X competes head to head with the A350 and the 787 competes directly with the A330neo.

    • @alipontiac
      @alipontiac Před 20 dny

      True.

    • @XWXW-lk4jf
      @XWXW-lk4jf Před 20 dny +1

      The 787-10 does compete with the a350 however in terms of size but in terms of range, the a321 is a better comparison.

    • @smeary10
      @smeary10 Před 19 dny

      @@XWXW-lk4jf Agreed completely. I thoughts of the A321XLR but decided not to muddy the waters. But now that you've mentioned it, you're spot on. There's a slight overlap between the A350-800 and the 787-10. At the bottom end with the 787-8 she comes up against the A321-XLR. It kind of hurts the Dreamliner in a category of its own that it gets beaten on, on every level by the competition. as the Airbuses deliver so much more.

  • @goytabr
    @goytabr Před 19 dny +3

    1. Both South America and South Africa are within the range of the 787-10. Maybe not Amsterdam-Santiago nonstop, but that's currently flown with a stop in Buenos Aires (on a 787-9) anyway. The Far East with the current detours over South Asia or Alaska is a good reason to skip the 787-10, yes, but not South America and South Africa.
    2. Both KLM and Air France ALREADY have large fleets of 787s (in the case of KLM, including the 787-10), not to mention even larger fleets of older 777s. What will happen to those planes in the mid- to long-term? Will they be passed on or retained along the new A350s? Plus, even the smaller A350-900 is significantly larger than the 787-9 and caters to a different market. These are questions that the video didn't approach and should have.

  • @oswaldkuyler
    @oswaldkuyler Před 20 dny +2

    Amazed how safety plays such a small
    Part in the process. I personally only fly airbus carriers.

  • @paulreynolds7000
    @paulreynolds7000 Před 15 dny +3

    The 787-9 has all the range any airline needs as Qantas has shown. Last time I checked Capetown & Johannesburg are 11 hours from northern Europe well within the range of a 787-10. Buenos Aires and Santiago do require a 14 hour plane though. KLM purchased the A350 because it seems AF & KLM now have common fleets strategies, KLM is also getting A321neos.

  • @gunvaldsandhaland7757
    @gunvaldsandhaland7757 Před 21 dnem +5

    A350 Is The Best For KLM Air France

  • @thomasjsanford4369
    @thomasjsanford4369 Před 12 dny +9

    The 787 isn't a competitor to the a350... The 777x is...
    The 787 NightmareLiner is merely a bad successor to the 767-300er, and to smaller a330's

    • @jimshoe402
      @jimshoe402 Před 12 dny

      I have flown on the 787 many tines the BATTs (GM helped 😝) scare me Fire over the Ice Cap !!!!!!!

    • @globalimpactsyndicate666
      @globalimpactsyndicate666 Před 12 dny

      you have no idea! take your pills and get back to sleep!

    • @ShinzouWoSateSateSate
      @ShinzouWoSateSateSate Před 12 dny +1

      I like how you called it NightmareLiner

  • @mkc3177
    @mkc3177 Před 22 dny +4

    They probably don't want to loose their planes mid flight.

  • @tobyray8700
    @tobyray8700 Před 21 dnem +8

    I like the channel, but I’m getting sick of the computer narration

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 21 dnem +2

      thanks for your feedback, we'll use real voice soon

  • @sergeyyatskevitch3617
    @sergeyyatskevitch3617 Před 7 dny +3

    Flew both boeing and airbus airplanes. Passenger comfort in Airbus is way above that one in boeing.

    • @rael5469
      @rael5469 Před 6 dny +1

      How can that be? Aren't they the same interior furnishings manufacturers?

    • @gerhardma4687
      @gerhardma4687 Před 3 dny +1

      @@rael5469 Passgier comfort is not just about the seats you sit in or the in-flight entertainment. It includes the humidity in the cabin, the regulation of the air pressure, the sound insulation, the air distribution of the heating, etc. And everything together influences the comfort of the passengers. I'm not an Airbus or Boeing fanboy and I don't care which plane I'm on. All in all, however, I too have noticed that Airbus, especially the A350 and A380, are ahead in terms of comfort on flights. And there is also a whole range of manufacturers for the seating etc., so there are big differences there too.

    • @rael5469
      @rael5469 Před 3 dny

      @@gerhardma4687 Oh I totally get everything you say here. I get it. But the 787 also has a lower altitude and humidity control.
      The 777 has waterfalls in the cabin. Fact. I once rode on a 777 and as they rotated for takeoff a ton of water came down on me from the ceiling. Nothing I could do.....we were seat belted in during takeoff. ;)

  • @LucasBatistussi
    @LucasBatistussi Před 19 dny +9

    Airbus A350 is far more technological and safer! Good move

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola Před 22 dny +12

    KLM should have gone Airbus a long, long time ago.

  • @brentsummers7377
    @brentsummers7377 Před 20 dny +2

    The B787-10 range is a lot less than the 787-8 and 787-9. Maybe perfect for US carriers flying to Europe but could not fly the trans-pacific routes to Australia.

  • @leithraymant8007
    @leithraymant8007 Před 12 dny +4

    I will never fly on a 787. ☠️

  • @angelinesg77
    @angelinesg77 Před 22 dny +3

    Excellent choice: Airbus

  • @Liendoelcm
    @Liendoelcm Před 22 dny +6

    Could well be KLM believe the A350 has a safer record, which would be everything for me. I will not fly Boeing.

  • @DALKINION
    @DALKINION Před 22 dny +6

    And let's not forget, Airbus aren't known to drive square pegs through round holes, know what I mean 😏

  • @bstange
    @bstange Před 23 dny +5

    Yes I agree.
    Good for KLM. Boeing is such a mess at the moment.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 23 dny

      thank you for the feedback!

    • @bstange
      @bstange Před 23 dny

      @@FLIGAVIA You're welcome. This channel should get some care from the algorithm :-D

  • @skylineXpert
    @skylineXpert Před 11 dny +2

    If boeing have failed to deliver & airbus can deliver a suitable replacement.
    But the Boeing era wont be forgotten. Most certainly not KL785...

  • @zacherius137
    @zacherius137 Před 17 dny +2

    Te 350 will compliment the 787. KLM needs to replace their aging 330's and 727-200ER's and the 777X is not ready for a LONG TIME!

  • @ckat007
    @ckat007 Před 17 dny +3

    ❤A350❤

  • @voltafy
    @voltafy Před 7 dny +1

    1:03 KLM was not acquired (taken over) by Air France. KLM and Air France created a "merger" (joined forces) to become one joint company.
    If anything, it was Air France that was struggling before the merger and unable to sustain itself. Today the merger has been deemed a great success with Air France - KLM being the largest Airline group in Europe.

  • @fernandoferre8878
    @fernandoferre8878 Před 23 dny +3

    A while ago I started to prioritise aircraft type over merely price. I am so glad KML is turning into A350 in detriment of B787. Hopefully KLM and AirFrance will start using them for their service to Buenos Aires. Currently they are using B787, so I usually book not-that-great-service Iberia's A350-900.

    • @FLIGAVIA
      @FLIGAVIA  Před 23 dny

      Hope you will have a good experience on KLM A350 soon

    • @smirkyglint5437
      @smirkyglint5437 Před 23 dny

      Why prioritize aircraft?

    • @fernandoferre8878
      @fernandoferre8878 Před 22 dny

      @@smirkyglint5437 I have not a rational answer. Kinda feel safer in Airbus plane.

    • @smirkyglint5437
      @smirkyglint5437 Před 22 dny +1

      @@fernandoferre8878 i can understand that especially with boeings recent incidents

  • @tjr4459
    @tjr4459 Před 23 dny +4

    If Boeing concentrated more on quality and product than knocking off whistleblowers maybe they would be in a better position today.

  • @Marty-Mc
    @Marty-Mc Před 22 dny +1

    If a pilot fly's a A 320 he can fly the A380 within 7 days as the cockpit layout is practically the same, thus reducing pilot traning costs and down time, makes for more flexibility of crew use, makes total sense to go that way, Air bus cockpits have been like that for years.

    • @rtbrtb_dutchy4183
      @rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Před 22 dny

      More like 24 days, but otherwise correct. I think a move to the A330 is around 7 days.