Ben Shapiro PRESSED on JESUS for 15 Mins STRAIGHT by John MacArthur (AGAIN)
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- Ben Shapiro PRESSED on JESUS for 15 Mins STRAIGHT by John MacArthur
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I don't care what John Mc false shepard says untill he apologizes for excommunicating an abused woman and publically shaming her. If anything Ravi Zacharias taught us, they can say all the right things and not be truly in line with God. Im of the opinion that he will be one of the ones told "i never knew you".
Do you think the reason they are having John on again is so they don't seem anti-christian after the candace debacle
Iâm Jewish but I still recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah đ
If you recognize Jesus as the messiah, you are not a Jew.
And the deciples of Jesus who are jewish and recognized Jesus as a messiah arenât Jewish either by your logic? Is Jesus then becomes a non Jew because he consideres himself the messiah by your logic? Bruh please be more mindful people can be Jewish and follow Christ and be followers of Christ. A Jewish person can believe that Jesus is their messiah and their God in human flesh then they can be Jewish and Christian at the same time đ
â@@Alexander-Kurtzsure he is. He's a messianic Jew
â @@numi8985they can be the Jewish race but not the Jewish religion. By definition believing Jesus is the messiah makes you a Christian. The Jewish religion does not recognize Jesus as the messiah otherwise they would be Christian. The disciples were Jews by race and religion, but after Jesus they became the first Christian and stopped following the Jewish religion
@@mattsell2361 ofcourse thatâs what I am getting at
God Bless all Of You! Hope Ben and the rest of the Jewish turn to there true Messiah Jesus! â€
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That will never happen, because Jesus has not (at least not yet) fulfilled the Jewish messianic prophesies. Gather exiles, rebuild the temple, usher in world peace, resurrect the dead etc.
Again it's always the Reformed folks who stand up for biblical truth in these times!
@AllforOne_OneforAll1689
As they always have. The greatest preachers were and are Reformed guys.
I appreciate John suggesting that Ben read the Gospels, but I wish he would have also said to make a list from the OT on all of the requirements listed of what prophecies the Messiah must fulfill to match the OT prophets. It is like 300 of them. When they go down the list checking the boxes off of what Jesus did, maybe the light turn on for those of the elect. Kudos to Ben for having John back on, and kudos to John for shooting straight and to the point of the good news of Jesus, our Redeemer.
If Ben studied the sanctuary he would see that the lay out, the articles, the sacrifices and the feasts are all about Jesus, the Christianâs life and the history of Godâs people (His church)
True, and the layout and progression through it reveals that partaking of the word of God on Sabbath is a part of the believer's walk with God (Lev 24:8,9) - right along with prayer (Rev 5:8) and being filled with the Holy Spirit (Lev 24:4). Also that God's law is the foundation of His throne...and many other things. It's a great subject worthy of deep study.
How does continuing to read the Gospels over and over in any way help you to determine if the claims made in them are true? Especially the supernatural things?
I think it would be cool to see Ben Shapiro interview Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. Maybe that conversation will change Ben's heart â€
That would be too close to home for Ben I'm afraid
He will get saved
"unfortunately I was born a gentile" refers to Jews being Gods chosen people.
Yes. What greater honor than to share a bloodline with the Messiah, to be born an integral part of God's plan?
@@samuraiboriken We all share a bloodline with him. That sentiment is what makes a lot of modern day Jews pretentious and exclusionary
@@owens7945 He means direct bloodline. From Jacob, not Adam and Eve
@@ryunosuke8966 Still means nothing
â@samuraiboriken Unless you're a descendant or sibling of Jesus you don't share a 'Bloodline' with him. The only importance the bible places on Jesus's genetics was for his species: humanity
Ben Shapiro wanting to see a more Christian America shouldnt be surprising. Judaism isnt an aggressively evangelistic faith so from a pragmatic perspective if you want an ally it would be an evagelistic faith that is the least hostile towards Judaism in which case it would be Christianity (as opposed to say Islam or secular humanism). So Shapiro welcoming prominent evangelical Christians such as John MacArthur actually makes a lot of sense because Ben knows that MacArthur is actually preaching to his audience and not him. Considering that Ben Shapiro attracts a lot of non-religious conservatives, having a guy like MacArthur encouraging them to become Christian helps to bolster the support for Israel and Jews which is in Shapiro's interest. Ben is playing very very shrewd politics.
You get it đŻđŻđđ... very few ppl do. Ben will have some answering to do from him essentially USING Christians to forward his personal agenda. A touchy game he's playing here.
Valid points however religiously, as a Rabbinic Jew Ben is out of line, Rabbnic Judaism claims that Christianity is idol worship, technically they arenât even supposed to enter churches and some super strict ones even spit at churches. So in reality yes Ben technically should be against Christianity and should largely promote the 7 Noahide laws for gentiles.
But they arenât doing themselves any favours by daily wire saying that saying Christ is King is anti semetic and firing Canadance Owens because her saying that in one tweet unrelated to Jewish people to be a great offence to the Jewish people working at daily wire (Ben) like bro, pick a side! Itâs either you hate us Christians or not. Is it you need us or donât.
itâs not surprising⊠heâs been expressing that sentiment since the beginning of his career.
Judaism is far more hostile to Christianity. Who brought the Muslims in? Aipac and the Israeli lobby.
Just amen and Glory to the Lord Jesus Christ đ
Death is never the end, only the beggining. The sionist behold into this material realm, and think they have scaped God's judgement. All these things shall come to pass in the last days.
He's here because MacArthur is so pro Israel
And that reason God can use Pastor MacArther to preach to Ben about Christ. U should know better man. I pray for the salvation of Ben and u should too as a Christian if your are one
It seems Ben genuinely enjoys conversation with reformed theologians, Iâm happy for him đđŒ
Ruslan KD, Awesome video!
Did you guys see Candace Owenâs shout out re: Armenian Christians in her Piers Morgan interview recently?
Yes
What did she say?
Yes Jeuse said to the Sanhedrins jews "
Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit." Matthew 21:43
Jesus is the king but unfortunately king herod and the Sanhedrin rejected Jesus and sentenced him to death .
Hope to see Ben one day toss his Yamaka towards the sky like on graduation day when he finally surrenders and receive Christ into his life
Ben, is like "oh know, here he goes again." Lol. Seriously though John MacArthur is one of the great modern men of God so Ben is going to get the pure unadulterated truth of the Gospel!
unadulterated? John teaches calvinism and lordship salvation. which is no salvation at all, greatly intermingling man's sweat (effort) with Christ's blood (grace). its abominable.
One of the best modern men? Does that include when he kicked a woman out of his church because she divorced her abusive husband who was also doing s3xual harm to their children?
@@c2s2942 I know nothing about the case you're talking about or why he kicked her out but I do know there's always two sides to a story and people like to jump to the one side that aligns with their beliefs
@@myname-ns1rp I've never heard him preach Calvinism and the times I have heard him preach he sounded spot on with the Gospel. If you can you show me where and what specifically he said I would appreciate it
â@@myname-ns1rp totally agree on your point. But I am thankful that he presents the Gospel. His understanding of why Ben doesn't accept the Gospel is different to what you and I believe.
Itâs so much better to have their zoom call recorded rather than watching a recording of a zoom call
I think the reason Ben had John back on is because of the Candace Williams fiasco. He lost some Christian fans from it and I think this interview was a way to try to bring the peace.
I agree đŻ
Yea. Agreed. And also he knows that we Christians will be the ones to send our sons to die to fight for Israel so he doesn't have to send his. This is politics & money, unfortunately.
Ben hosts pastor reguraly.
for some reason he is the only one from al DW and outside of it (like charlie kirk and etc) who seems to host christian pastors to give commentry on current topics
But it wonât do anything because he believes that saying Christ is king is antisemitism
â@@polpol2739Michael Knowles does too with his interviews which I actually find interesting and surprisingly edifying.
This is a play to hold onto Christians and counter Candace Owens who is coming back at them as a Christian
Catholic is a works based gospel which is no gospel at all.
Hating Israel isn't Christian. But I suppose it's according to the Bible that everyone will hate Israel in the last days, including a lot of people that claim to be christians. And while it's true that Jesus is king, I'm not convinced Candace Owens said it in a well meaning way, sure I don't know her heart but it just seems she hates Ben Shapiro and she said it to make him mad. Or maybe that's all in my head, what do I know.
â@@562mjohnson amen 100%. Catholicism is just a marriage of Christian appearances and traditions with the paganism of old Rome wanted to combine to keep the peace so to speak. It is of the devil and ecumenicism along with it. There needs to be a clear line about what the gospel is: Grace through faith apart from works, which Macarthur has also been an enemy of, even redefining "faith" and the gospel in "the Gospel According to Jesus" and other writings and sermons where he confuses totally the gift of salvation with the cost of discipleship. getting saved is free. eternal life is a gift. discipleship is a daily choice to walk with the Lord and is extremely costly. There also has to be a strong line about what is "christianity" Catholicism, Orthodox, are cults just like mormonism or JW. they are no different and intermingle human works with Jesus' finished works. how dare we mingle the sweat of men with the blood of Christ!
@@562mjohnson Jesus said if you don't feed the poor he will say " I never knew you."
@@lispan3768 no he didn't.
I think John's point, when he says he'd rather been born a Jew, is that we are graphted into the vine, we are born gentiles, but we are jews spiritually. Speaking as a Christian, of course. We have a Jewish messiah who practiced Jewish customs and traditions, and celebrated Jewish festivals. I would love to do all those things. Instead of celebrating a pagan Christian "holiday"
We will live forever on the new earth not in heaven. God will dwell with us on earth forever amen
The title is unfair and wrong. John MacArthur did not force Jesus on Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro wanted to know. It seems he respects and likes MacArthur for obvious reasons, and if anyone is the right person to take the gospel to Shapiro, it is him. Shapiro was more open on the subject than I have ever seen him before. God is working on his heart.
Totally agree. People like to caricature Ben as if he hates Christians. I watched this interview with Ben and Pastor John and I felt it was very respectful towards each other. I also heard Ben say multiple times that he appreciates Christians because they say they pray for him and he knows they mean it.
Ruslan says Jesus is Yahweh...
@@perc-aiHeâs correct. Yeshua and Yahweh are the same in Hebrew means the anointed one to which Jesus is.
Jesus is Yahweh. And when did we say he âforcedâ Jesus on Ben?
@@RuslanKD maybe itâs their misunderstanding of what âpressedâ means.
No, because he knows Christ is King!!!
As a Roman Catholic I grew up loving the Jewish People. We learned so many beautiful things about them and on many important occasions the Pastor of the Cathedral where I lived would invite a Rabbi to speak. When the passing of John Paul the II, we had a Memorial Mass and A Rabbi was invited to preach after the Mass. He touched my heart with so much love and wisdom. When I watched the videos where Ben Shapiro called Jesus Christ a "troublemaker" I felt disappointed with the lack of respect in the way he versed things. I am glad he is trying to amend his relationship with Christians.
I pray for Ben's Salvation every day. I've been praying for him for months. God orders our steps! It's great to see John reaching out to Ben. It's exciting to see God working!
MacArthur has a unique position of being a Calvinistic Dispensationalist. He understands Godâs sovereignty and ability to set His love on a chosen people and His ability to bring about all the promises regarding the people, their land, and even a national repentance. Most Calvinist believe the church somehow inherited all the promises of Israel but there are too many specific promises made that have yet to be fulfilled in the 1st coming of the Messiah that will be fulfilled in the 2nd coming of the Messiah that apply to the nation of Israel and not just the church.
The absolute belief of John MacArthur about the Bible defending itself and it being like a Lion in the way that you donÂŽt defend a Lion you just set it free! Gave me the chills. We need to be more convinced about the Scriptures being the word of God, the Sword that pierces every heart and is able to change our hearts if we seek the truth honestly. May this interview lead many to open themselves up to read the revelation of the Jewish Messiah and the GentileÂŽs Christ, the Lord Jesus!
I saw this dialog a long time ago.
I have a idea, do a round table with Ben on Torah and Gospel
I think Johnny Mac could've been more effective in citing Romans 11:17-24 where Paul says that the Gentiles are the "wild branch" that has been grafted into the olive tree and that we as Gentiles are supported by the root which is Abraham, Isaac & Jacob and the 12 tribes of Israel. Paul says that we as Gentiles need to NOT become proud or arrogant, otherwise we as Gentiles could be "cut off." So Johnny Mac needs to let Ben know that we as Gentiles are supported by the Jewish foundation of the faith. Also, in v. 25-26, Paul says that "all Israel will be saved." Last of all, I would've recommended that Ben read the Gospel of Matthew, directed at a Jewish audience.
Jordan Peterson is part of daily wire and a crew is sent out for all of his daily wire content
A filtered Johnny Mac there đ
Would love to see Jeff from So Be it have a converstation with Ben đ
Reading the Bible will never work if you donât have the faith. The truth will just hide from the hindsight.
I think John nailed it there even though I maybe personally disagree with him over several issues as well. One thing we also need to realize is that there is a Jewish person who may have tuned into this conversation and something got triggered to understand Christ more.
I think if we actually focus more on declaring the Gospel messages there would be massive impact in this dying world
As gentile believers we are adopted into Godâs family. We are spiritually citizens of Israel â€ïž
Dispensationalism has its consequences
I want to see Ben talk to a Jewish believer like Dr. Mike Brown.
I doubt he would. Itâs easier for him to dismiss people who donât have a Jewish background.
YES!!!
I am a Jew and I will also like to see a "more Christian America". You guys forget but Jews don't evangelize, we don't try to convert or convince anyone of anything, the only think we care about from a religious perspective is you keeping the 7 laws of Noah (which most Christians do). And I prefer people following a faith that's 100x better than secularism and has great values. Just please don't be antisemitic ;) We're not that bad, but I get why it's easy to hate us.
Authentic Christians could never embrace antisemitism.
"Why did God choose the Jews?" has always been a question of mine. Seems there were alot better choices back then lol
Good video but interesting take on the backdrop. I have 20/10 vision and saw nothing off about his backdrop. I honestly think itâs in one of his offices. But hey, who knows? Much love brother
God told Moses and then Joshua but he did not tell anyone of us to start a war with a specific people since thatâs assignment was completed and the new assignment is to be like Christ in all that we do when helping other people
It does look like AI lol
Let us also pray for the Jews that God our Lord should illuminate their hearts, so that they will recognize Jesus Christ, the Savior of all men.
Let us pray. Let us genuflect. Rise.
All-powerful and eternal God, you who wish that all men be saved and come to the recognition of truth, graciously grant that when the fullness of peoples enters your Church all of Israel will be saved.
Through Christ Our Lord, Amen.
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Ruslan man give John Macarthur break. I mean you said it once that he calls from 2018 laptop and things look ai but bro you keep on beating that dead horse over and over again bringing the same thing at 2:15. We get it you're not happy with the quality move on lol
Noted
@@RuslanKD love you brother
McArthur needs more accountability.
He looks like Larry King đđđ
Only Ruslan could get me to watch a convo between two of my least favorite personalities đ my opinion hasnât changed about these dudes but good content
Aight somebody go to tell me why we got these randoms sounds in the video.
You donât think innocent people were killed when God passed judgement on people
No one is innocent
Jesus fulfilled over 324 prophecies, Written in the OT, before He was born. The odds of that happening are incalculable. I am glad my prayers donât offend you. I hope they bless you and bring you to salvation through the Son of Man. Jesus Christ, Immanuel. â€
The prophet Jonah would beg to differ about whether or not jews should be evangelizing.
Why didn't John bring up the 69 weeks in Daniel 9 which pinpoint Christ's arrival to the day? Or Isaiah 53?
Jews think of Armenians as amalekites.
His visuals do not look terrible.
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Ben has traditionally been very good about having people of different views on his program, even Christians who are willing to challenge his core religious beliefs. That being said, I tend to believe he is having John Mac on again at this time because of his staunch support for Israel and his belief that Christians should support Israel. That is what is most important to Ben, and I dont see him having a pastor who is less supportive of the current nation state of âIsraelâ in his program.
Not that many people.
where all these devoted christians republicans that with ben shapiro now?đđđ
It pains you to approve of Pastor Johnâs continued Biblical teachings.
Iâd love to see a conversation between Ben and Fr Josiah Trenham
yes, and with Amir Tsarfati!
Well if Candace spoke to Ben like Johnny Mac does with regard to Christ, maybe they would still be friends.
Jews have to read the new testament as much as possible. HAVE TO. How can you reliably deny something you do not know?
JMac mentioned the Amalekites to talk about HAMAS, I disdain the use of the Bible story to talk about this horrible issue between Israel and Palestine because I know it can be so easily misunderstood. If there was a pastor who could speak to Ben about the Gospel it is definitely MacArthur.
I believe Ben thinks that being Jewish is exclusive to his heritage and his lineage, so he wants more people that affirm YHWH as God because it creates better gentiles, but he is separate from that.
The folks saying Ben is doing this because of the Candace situation c'mon...hes always conversated and debate Christian beliefs and traditions with Christians...smh
MacBook from 2018 đ. My Macbook is from 2020 đ©
I think Ben is projecting his lack of moral clarity.
John MacArthur has lost lots of weight Ruslan due to a health issue from last year. That might be partly why he looks different but I agree with you, there is something that doesn't look real.
Steven Tyler?
I listen to Ben Shapiro a lot. And this is not a strange thing for him to say. He says always that the core value of the West relies on christian doctrine, and we need to go back to christianity. Even being a jew he recognizes the power of christian doctrine and fundaments
Because Christian morals grew out the Old Testament
Jesus is YHWH â€
Maybe its Candace đđŸ
They used some sort of upscaling for the video which is why it looks so bad and AI generated
You can't understand how Christ performed miracles because His knowledge was Higher than ours , He was Human with a Holy Spirit meaning He couldn't Sin even if he wanted to , We can argue all day but Everything He Said Is True , If you want to feel a piece of what He went Through Try Fighting Sin and See how you do.
Ben reads the Talmud
Everybody and their dog wants to live in a Christian world, but so many don't want to buy in. My Christian book lays out obligations, Ben. Just saying...
Is Ben wanting to be a Christian đđ
I suspect this is the same as Richard Dawkins saying he wants to live in a Christian land. Compared to everything else out there christendom is better by far.
You donât need to support him Russian. He was going to the OT to talk about the consequences of not doing as God commanded.
âBless Godâ?? Isnât that blasphemous?? God doesnât need to be blessed heâs the one who *does* the blessing!!!
Read Psalm 68:26
@@connerstephens4547 Thanks & I agree, but it should read âpraise Godâ IMHO. Especially when people who arenât well versed in the Bible, or an unbeliever will read it when youâre wearing it.
John McArthurâs laptop is probably propped up by his signature Bibles đ
Ruslan, Why are you so soft on biblical theology. Put you foot down and stand firm on the clear Truth and stop wavering when hot topics come up.
Ruslan -- here's an old saying which is very true: "A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." God NEVER twists anyone's arm to believe his salvation promises ... so why are you?
Because youâre trying to save as many souls as possible
@@stephjl401 Gently preaching the good news of salvation is the method, not bullying or pressuring. If Ben does come to Christ you can be sure that it will be the still small voice of the Holy Spirit on the inside that will do the job. And it will happen in a way and time that neither Ruslan nor MacArthur will be able to put a feather of pride in their caps. Just sayin' ... đ
@@robertlawson4295 it is still our job to plant the seed bud. You canât wait around for the Holy Spirit to do the job entirely for us. His timing is perfect but these talks are happening for a reason. Remember that!
â@@robertlawson4295 what is this small voice and how can I hear it and talk with Him?
Ptsd isnât real
What?
Ben is newly observant & doesn't know his own religion well yet. Something to think about: If Jesus was the Messiah, wouldn't it would it have been important enough to be in the Ten Comandments and not in an obscure passage in Isaiah?
I think Dr. Micheal Brown and Ben Shapiro would make for an incredible conversation.
John was not canceled by Ben? !
Johnny Mac is getting old.
Im sorry i didnt hear a word the pastor said when they showed the shot from behind ben.... what was that? All i could focus on was bens head seemingly shaking. Ohband i think the gentile thing was his version of a joke?
Why are Christians so held up on what Ben Shapiro thinks of Jesus?
Even during Jesus's time not everyone agreed on what Jesus was (Matt 16:13-17).
People don't have to agree, Please just move on.
Because Jesus made it clear that he is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the father but through him.
lol. Abraham wasnât Jewish. He was gentile from the Chaldees
Truee, so many people get it wrong.
Yes and no to your statement. While he was a pagan before knowing God and not like the practicing jews under the mosaic law he is the one who fathered Israel, so in a sense he is one. Jews define themselves as being descended from Abraham and Paul used Abraham numerous times in his letters to show how faith in God is what makes us righteous, not our own deeds or lineage.
@@nicholasfornshell7362 This logic doesnât check out. Abraham is the father of many nations, and frankly everyone alive today. He was in no sense a Jew. Being a Jew is fine and good though.
Abraham was indeed a Chaldean and or Northern Mesopotamian.
@@randomdisciple8517 I'm not denying his Chaldean ancestry, I'm just saying that Jews define themselves through Abraham's seed Issac and then Jacob. While Abraham is also responsible for birthing other nations the chosen seed was clearly Issac and then Jacob. Even when God promised Abram in Genesis 12: 1-3 He was specifically referring to Israel being a great nation. The pharisees in John's gospel tried to argue against Jesus saying their physical seed was from Abraham and that their father is Abraham. Heck even the practice of circumcision for the jews began with Abraham. To say Abraham wasn't Jewish is just arguing semantics.
Bro... his glasses were glitching.
so it seems that following only the old testament is not reliable. you must have both parts. i pray that jewish people can accept their own messiah just saying this sounds ridiculous honestly. denying the man that your people had waited on forever, he comes, he works miracles, shows and fulfils all of your prophecies, you still deny it, please make it makes sense.
yâall are weird.
what's up with those sounds effects? i love the channel but its annoying
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What are you talking about? The Jews in the Bible weren't white nor were they xenophobic. Furthermore, history doesn't support your misunderstanding of Christian nations' military actions
Brother, you talk too much.
So it's true? America is considered a "Christian" nation, as Israel is the Jewish nation? I thought the United States was a "free to practice religion" Country? All due respect Ruslan. đ As a Jew by ethnicity, it hits my heart a little hard when hearing it's Jesus only.
Itâs not a theocracy, but the USA was founded on Judeo-Christian values such as all humans being created equally in the image of God.
America is a nation where you can practice freely. I dont understand your argument
@Ehhhhhsureeee It was said in the video that we are a Christian nation. That statement is against our Founding Fathers in forcing a religion on the People. By doing so, Judaism & the rest are negatively affected. It's not an argument, it's a comment/question since I didn't want to believe it. Are we heading for a "Christian Colony", as Triploy was afraid of?
@@Tonibolognaaintnophony But even if America was founded on Christian values, it still holds that it is a country where people can practice their religions freely. And they most definitely do practice them freely as we speak.
even if your a jew and you dont believe in Jesus you will go to hell. It's Jesus Only now.