Beretta vs Browning vs Miroku
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2023
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Not even the antis tell people to avoid gun shops as much as David does
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sorry about this but just trying to let people know that they can go to any shooting school with a gun room and shoot them with someone before they buy one. Thanks for your comment.
100%...I tell newcomers exactly the same ...I have all 3!!
Very informative, very interesting. Now I have some basis fo choose and question. Thanks. Good job.
I got my Beretta SP1 sporter as its was dirt cheap(1380 pounds) at a sale at the time, have extended the stock wirt a pad and added external titanium choked that made the balance more rear heavy. And that made it perfect for me. Its availble with ajustable stock also.
I’ve had all 3 in various models sold the 525 new sporter problems with the trigger sticking 2nd shot bought the new beretta SP1 great gun trigger far better than browning and it’s heavier gun I’m 6’2 fits perfect Also have the miroku mk38 new model only in trap configuration also a fantastic gun My view is the beretta&miroku are better guns for the money than the browning Good video
I found this very informative, thank you. I wish I had found this channel before buying my first gun (second hand) last year, as new to the sport didn't really know much about different manufactures or the difference barrel length can have. Went to a gun shop as opposed to a gun school and think they just sold me an old gun they wanted rid of a Webley 912 28", not knowing and had heard of Webley in the past thought it was a decent gun and parted with my cash. Long story short, turns out after a couple of lessons the gun is totally unsuitable and too small for me and the shooting I am doing. Now looking to buy another more suited for my needs. Have you reviewed the Beretta 694?
The Brownings are actually manufactured by Miroku except for the Belgium guns. There are slight differences that make me prefer the Miroku branded guns. New Miroku's are not marketed in the USA. They occasionally show up on the used market however. My "go to" skeet gun is a 20ga Miroku Mk70 sporter with 30" tubes. I also own a 20ga Browning CXS which is very similar to the Mk 70. Both "made in Japan" by Miroku.
It's an interesting theme.
Classic I'd say.
3 big brands in battle!
I like it!
I 100% agree with trying the guns. i've only been shooting for around 6 months and when i joined my local gun club they have an ATA as a club gun. I do really well with and found it a decent gun, that was until i started trying other guns! i started trying other club members guns and what i found crazy was i was hitting double the amount of clays when i started using Browning and Beretta. I thought the ATA was a great gun, but as soon as i started trying others i soon realised the ATA isn't set up for me and just wasn't right. you can think something is great for you if it's all you have ever known. i was also so shocked that just the change of stock length could increase my accuracy by 50%+ too. I am yet to try a Miroku though and can't wait to get my hands on trying one!
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I started with a 525, progressed to an Ultra XS Pro Exquisite for clays and use an old Beretta 686E for game days. They're all great guns.
Miroku MK38 hands down for me. A cracking gun and it never ever lets me down.
Good review David
Love your channel. Thinking about learn to shoot clays (I'm based in the US), so these discussions are helpful. Couple questions if i may: 1. Would these 3 be considered for a first shotgun or a 2nd or after? 2. The nearest outdoor ranges are between 30 and 80 miles from my home, whereas there's an indoor range (no trap or skeet, mainly rifles and handguns) within 5 or 10 miles from my home. Should i start with the indoor range to help ensure my initial learning and interest in having it become a hobby (and to possibly pursue a license) or try to go straight to outdoor? Thanks for the content.
Hi David , could you do a tutorial on a duck down the hill clay ? One that’s high but comes straight down and you have to get it before it hits the ground ? It’s the only one I struggle with , not sure how much lead you should give it etc ..
I tried the Beretta but found it too slim in the feel, the pistol grip was too slim for my hands and the gun did not suit my frame. A nice gun do not get me wrong as I hit as many with the Beretta as I did with a 725. The 725 suited me better with the palm swell so I bought the 725 although it was a sporter. A year later I tried an MK38 Trap and it did me well and I love it especially with the full hand forend so I got that as well and love shooting with it. Dave is right it can be a lump after a while but well worth a shoot. The cast and height of comb suits me well. Anyway good luck and good shooting guys and cheers to David for the video!!!
Thanks for your comment.
Thanks, David. It would be great if you could talk a little bit about trigger pressure and control. Are you really pulling back hard on the trigger? Have you done a video on triggers in general? I ask because I am rifle shooter and triggers are of utmost importance. I am just getting into clay sports. Just bought a new Fausti sporting! 😊
Hi David, im am in the process of looking for my first gun, i have shot quite a few one being a miroku 3800 which im told is the equivalent to the mk38 trap, i really liked it, would you recommend an mk38 trap m/c for shooting all disciplines?
Thanks Danny
Where I live a new Miruku MK70 is less than half the price of a Beretta SP1 and a MK38 is about 2/3rds the price. I just paid around 800 quid (equivalent) for a new MK70, invector-plus etc.
I shoot a heavy Krieghoff and it's got great handling.
Wouodve liked close uos on tue guns and maybe function comparisons. Ive heard of SPs having extremely tight, difficult to iperate safety's?
I got the Browning and i do ok with it but i come from the semi automatic world and it is taking some getting used to. Currently im hitting 67-75 out of 100 clays with it in tournaments and I had been hitting 80-87 clays with my beretta a400 sporting.
I think its the weight difference. The beretta is a bit lighter and i also have a mossberg 940 field that i shoot with that is even lighter.
The issue i have is i got a torn left bicep and the over under stresses my arm with the weight.
Bought a 525s had it fitted to me don’t miss much
Question what year are the shotguns you reviewed the beretta was at least 5 years old browning looked the newest 🙄
I went with a 2018 Beretta 686 SP1 Sporter when it was time to pick up a decent O/U and move up from my crude Turkish Tristar/Khan O/U.
Great video. Would love the opportunity to shoot all three. Love to see a review of all three game guns if that was possible
miroku ❤
Just got into clay shooting these 3 guns are exactly the guns I'm looking at thanks David for the vid
Good guns at a good price
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what did you end up with ?
@@ajbaker8370 actually not any of these 😂 I got a 425
I have a pair of 425s in 20 bore, Winchester 101 3 barrel set, 20,28,410 and a Beretta S57 in 12 bore.
The Brownings and Winchesters actions still close like bank vaults, the Beretta has gotten a little loose over the years. I'll stick with the Mirokus.🍻
Very interesting video. Comparing the data on websites of Beretta and Miroku, the weight for the Miroku MK38 is 3,5 Kg. On the Beretta website you find a weight for the 686 Silver Pigeon Sporting of 3,6 Kg. The facts do not refere to your expierence. So I have to try Beretta and Miroku.
New sub here. Most just want to express appreciation for the kind instruction you gave me and my family at the Highclere show. Thanks for your wonderful instruction and will visit back here. Take good care.👍
....Bought recently a brand new silver pigeon 686 to replace the cheap & basic Vercar "churchill" hunting gun that I use for clay shooting....the difference between them is huge, & i'll describe it like that : the vercar is like a brick & the S.P. is like a hammer, both can hammer a nail, but the SP is the right tool to do it.😉
Which one has the most cast please?
My Miroku MK70 sporter grade one come in a case with 5 invector chokes for $1500 AUS Dollars. Great value for money gun.
Una elegancia de armas amigos
I shoot Browning because we don't have Miroku in the US. lol great video!😀
Browning Citori is made by Miroku
Why dont they vent the barrels on the mk38? If its the best gun for clays is there any fundimental reason to vent? Apart from lighter barrels? If The vents were needed to help cool the barrels then surely the japanese would uave done it? Unless some agreement with Browning?
Does the adjustable trigger allen key screw ever strip itself out. Just wondering. Probably a stupid question, oh well. Take Care and Be Safe .
Me thinks we have had it all before!
I once made the mistake of buying from a gun shop without trying the gun first. I was naive and the bought on price rather than proper gun fit. I haven't made the same mistake again and I recently bought a new Browning B525, after trying a Miroku, a Beretta and a Blaser. I bought the Browning because it was the best fit, and as a result, I've never shot so well in my life! I therefore have to say, in my opinion, that David is 100% right!
Thank you for your comment.
i’ve shot all 3 and wouldn’t own 1 of them again without naming it it’s finding a gun that handled the way you want most guns don’t fit me so buying a gun that fits doesn’t always apply if your above or below average height you’ll have to have it fitted i like a fast handling gun with low recoil my ideal gun would have 32 or 34 barrels there aren’t many makes that offer light weight barrels in that length the MK38 is just too much as an all rounder it takes a lot of effort to shoot it.
Absolutely. The Citori didn’t fit me well. There’s nothing wrong with the quality but I’m short and small framed so my eye was too low. I still didn’t shoot much worse with it than I typically do with my semiautomatics. The Beretta I picked up in the store mounted much better for me. I plan to find a range where I can rent one to test it out.
I’m looking at Browning 725 Sporter but I’m not into ported barrels, I am also considering a Beretta 694 Sporting but I heard they are cracking forend. I plan on using it for Trap Doubles as I prefer a Remington Auto’s for Trap Singles & Handicap and for Skeet shooting. I also worry about barrels regulation shooting to same point of impact. So is the 725 or 694 the better choice ?
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Miroku all the way for me, however not necessarily the MK38, although I have one. I tend to use my MK60 Universal Sporter the best compromise, unless you are using steel shot then it's a no no
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I have shot 1000 and 1000`s of shells in miroku and still going. So yes they shot stell very well
The Browning Citori is a double-barreled shotgun of the "over-and-under" or "stacked-barrel" type, with one barrel above the other. It is marketed and distributed by the Browning Arms Company in Morgan, Utah, and manufactured for Browning by the Miroku Corporation in Nangoku, Japan. -- Straight off a Googled "where are Browning Citori's made?" In essence, Miroku and Brownings are fundamentally the same gun. Insignificant differences.
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Made in Japan.
Would have loved to see the blaser F16 in between
Baretta would be a good stage name for a particular type of performer.
Think I saw him in a few X rated films
How about the mk10 over the mk38?
Hello. What's your opinion about fabarm elos n2 all sport?
thank you for this they are not as good as these 3 if you would like to give you a call on 01844 238 308 we can help you with this more.
It's Beretta!
sorry this is now been put right.
Dollar to dollar nothing touches miroku, here in Aus 1500 pounds gets you a grade 3 mk10 competition sporter, less than a base 686, and way more gun
Beretta make better game guns I think, easier design, less fiddly bits to clean and collect crap. In my time loading some 20 odd years, they hardly ever go wrong compared to other makes, and far easier to clean.
The gun trade is evidently an extremely cut-throat business, I would have thought there was capicity for both gun shops and shooting grounds that sell guns.
I thought I wanted a Miroku…. Until I shot the Beretta 686.
I grab a new gun and I can’t hit anything😂. I’d really like to know how you manage to switch guns and still hit everything despite the fact all those guns must fit you differently.
I love it. However my favourite game gun at the moment is a mammut 3. The foxes can take lead unlike pigeons
Browning vs Beretta vs Fabarms
How about a customer service comparison? I can tell you first hand that the Beretta will not fair well. Won't spend another dime on their products.
He's got a grade 1 Miroku instead of a grade 5 comparing to a Silver Pigeon Beretta
Who is Baretta?
this is now right sorry.
I dont think you can compare " medals" when you compare these 3 guns. Beretta runs away with that category. In fact, neither of the other two even come close to making something like the DT11/ or any of the sidelocks beretta makes. You are basically looking at the BEST that miruku and browning make while the beretta is mid range ( maybe lower). Your bias towards Miruku is unfounded. The Miriku is NOT by any stretch of the imagination the best gun on the market.
If you have a lady in your neighborhood with shotgun skills, please pair up and do some reviews for smaller people shotguns. Love your site but now I’m shopping for my wife.
thank you for your comment.
Beretta, Beretta, Beretta. Please spell check and think.
Sorry this is now been put right.
Sir, always to show shot pattern of each shotgun brand please, instead of showing your shooting style
Prefiero la blaser f16
Maybe we all would? But at more than double the price of the guns shown 🙄
Toda la razón.
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Why the constant editing? It makes your videos unwatchable, it is so annoying. You cannot get out a whole sentence without editing??????
sorry you did not like this we will try and do better next time very sorry we hope you come back again very soon Thanks for your comment.
Hi David.
Maybe you should correct the title of the video.
(Baretta? )
Sorry we have change this now.
Beretta, browning, miroku. Beretta, browning, miroku. Same old, same old.. Boring.!! What more can you say that you haven't already in the past.. Move on..
sorry you did not like this we will try better on the next one thanks for your comment.