Is YOUR Hay the PROBLEM? | Vegetable GROWERS NEED TO HEAR THIS! Chemicals Used on Hay Ruin Gardens!
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- After hours of research, I have found out why my tomato plants on one side of the greenhouse grew really fast and curled. Can Hay be the problem? We found some very startling facts about hay production and harvest. This has been the problem with our garden for the past couple of years. Chemicals used on hay, animals eating hay, and us using the manure for compost on plants.
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Wow Danny, I can understand your anger. I had no idea about this. I bought 2 bales of straw and asked if they knew if the straw was sprayed with chemicals since it was going around my potatoes....they looked at me as if I were from Mars. It seemed like a perfectly reasonable question to me.
This is why we have so much cancers and other medical issues.
Omg , thank y’all SOOOOOOO much. This is the very thing that I have o.c.d about. Everything is contaminated, I mean EVERTHING. I’ve realized it along time ago but was told I was nuts, everything from lotions, deodorants, soaps , shampoos, clothing, air and water. It’s overwhelming and terrifying..
Not my yard. No chemicals here. I have insects and worms and what people call weeds. Nothing is a weed except for grass
This is a video that needs to go far and wide.. Wow, I cant thank you enough for this lesson... Many Blessings Yalls Way
I figured this out about 20 years ago and tried to tell people but no one would believe me, as they didn't believe you, and they insisted everything was fine. The chemical companies said so. As my mum used to say: And if they told you to bang your head against a brick wall, would you do that, too?
How frustrating! I know of one gardener who had problems with herbicides in straw he mulched his garden with.I would be concerned about the affects on the pregnant cows with this chemical.We're always being told a chemical is "safe" and then down the line finding out its not
"Buyer's Beware". It's good that channel like yours exist. I have always wondered about a lot of the bagged manure being sold. It's time we learn to buy from our neighbors when possible.. Or, really and truly go back to the old ways.. Or, we will do more harm than good in most cases. I won't buy seeds any more, from ANYONE, that I don't know personally.. I today choose my battles, to prevent a war. Thank you for sharing this Danny. " We are what we eat ". I always tell my granddaughter, stay away from bagged manure for such a small garden and her pots. I hope she's listened.. It's just to much misinformation and half truth. Thank you again for sharing Peace
I feel your pain. I lost over 200 tomato plants in my high tunnel all because of Grazon herbicide from the hay that was fed to horses that we used for our compost!!!
yep.
It really is quite an epidemic! I always check and check and check with the hay farmers we get hay from. One thing you can do is test the manure by planting a couple of beans in it, and then plant some control beans in unaffected soil and see if the curling happens. To test the hay you do the same thing, but instead watering with water you've soaked and then strained out the suspect hay.
One way to find hay that doesnt have aminopyralids (grazon isnt the only brand that has that chemical) is to find a poor farmer who can't afford to spray. Then look for broadleaf weeds in that hay. And triple check to make sure they dont put ANYTHING on those fields. Sorry you guys got burnt by this.
Danny, when you said that they are spraying that crap on the hay, my heart sank. The first thing I thought of is all that meat I was so careful to buy because it is organic grass fed beef and it was all for not! Then you said what I was thinking. Makes me so angry!!! I don't have a lot of money coming in, but I was trusting that I was making healthy choices, even tho it costs way more than the other meats. This makes me so angry!! So tired of being lied to, especially when it comes to the food I buy!! I am not in the position of being able to raise my own critters. I have to rely on these companies to tell me the truth that I am getting what I expect to get and they lie!!! They are killing us slowly!!!
"America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry and kill it slowly because that's what we do to countries that we hate" - Benjamin Netanyahu. 'They' own everything dont research the talmud or you might get angry that they think you're worse than a dog
Rachel Carson tried to warn us, back in the 60's! I ran across a random on-line article about this a while back, and have been trying, without much luck, to find out more details. I got lucky, because I was just about to collect some manure from some livestock ranch to up-size my compost production, when I started to learn about these herbicides. I don't currently have any livestock to produce manure for compost. Now, I'm on a mission to trace the chemicals all the way back to the farm before I'll use any manure. And, when I am ready to add livestock to my place, I'll research every outside feed source before using it. Thanks for this video! God bless y'all!
Danny, I'm so sorry this happened to you. This is what I have been writing to you about this past year. DON'T use straw either because they kill it to harvest with round-up. Here in Alabama its the same as Mississippi. We are so depended of chemicals that they don't even think about what its doing. Now that you got some clean bales you're gonna have to figure out how to grow your own. Please watch Gabe Brown under my "Soil Biology" playlist. It will help you with that and Yes his idea's do work in the southern soils. I also can put you in touch with Ray Archuleta. if you want to speak to him directly. What you can do now with that "bad" compost pile is get some bio-char. You can buy some Royal Oak Natural Lump Charcoal break it up into small bits and incorporate it into your compost. (abt 5%) this will help absorb and breakdown any heavy metals and toxins.. Call me if you need phone numbers.
bio char and mushrooms helped me clean up soil. I thought I was getting some rich compost & soil as it was recommended by a friend. When it was delivered I could smell diesel. Thought well duh it's the truck. After the truck left I could still smell it. Next day could still smell it. It was from the soil!. Called to see where this came from. Well it was scrapings off a saw mill parking lot!! CRAAAP no wonder. Young and dumb didn't think about it prior. Trusted someone else. Now I know.
Jesse from Roots & Refuge homestead has the leaf curl on her tomatoes & she didn't know why it started happening. You might tell her I think she would like to know, those tomatoes are in her new High Tunnel greenhouse. Thanks for sharing this important issue. God bless you and Wanda.👼💞🙏💖
Thank you for this valuable timely information Danny! Just yesterday I was looking over my pastures and hay meadows and was about to pull the trigger on having them all sprayed with grazon. I used to spray some of them with low vol 6 but haven’t in about 15 years now. The weeds are starting to choke out the grass and take over. If I had that sprayed that it would have killed off my feed source as far as all the gardens, fruit and nut trees, all the different berries and grapes not to mention tainting the meat when I process my cows for the freezer. This is must know valuable information that no one around my area seems to know. Thank You Danny for bringing this to my attention!
Sheep will happily eat most of the weeds and restore the pasture to grass and clover.
Back in 2009 I had a twh stallion, full round bale 13% Bermuda all to himself and fresh water. Dewormed, teeth floated and losing unexplained weight. He got down to skin and bones, stayed 24 days at a vet clinic and blood tests showed being off but nothing that they could ever figure out even after calling experts all over the USA. Sent him home with the chilling words "When he stops eating you'll know it's time to put him down". With nothing left to loose I put him on a specific horse feed all he could eat and a thin silver of alfalfa hay 2x a day. This feed has probiotics in it as well as Trace minerals. Which I believe got his gut enzymes going again. 6 weeks later he was looking like his old self again. I lost him two years later to a large cancer mass around his heart that eventually blinded one eye and going for the other. Lost a brood mare too and a several cows from that hay. Through questions and research I finally found out it was Dupont Direct 4L (pre-emergent for weeds) that was accidentally misapplied too heavy via rented equipment. Has an 80 day cutting window and I found a study that rats on this Dupont 4L lost weight after 30 days let alone all winter eating this hay. So yes, I totally agree that we and our animals and land are being poisoned each and every day.
2,4,D is the same way , and horses seem to love it , the Fullerton informer did a show , I believe with Sophia Smallstorm (?) On this same basic premise ,they are having expensive highly bred racing horses fall over dead at 5-7 yrs old at the racetracks and stables in Cal. . Glyphosate replaces Glysine , a building block protein in all mammals glxphxate is used on the oats to ripen them uniformly also , I don't about oats out of Canada as here in Michigan that's where most of them come from , I have been in and around farming my whole life an I have seen such a dramatic change in the attitude in farmers it makes me truley sad to see the infection that is in the colleges filter down into this once sacred profession.
How terrible.👍
My three TWH's had the same thing happen! I genuinely thought I was a bad horsekeeper and rehomed them; they deserved better than me and the goat had already died. I rehomed my senior with someone who lived "way out there", a recommendation from my vet, and he perked up and lived another 3 happy, healthy years until a respiratory infection took him. The other two I don't know what happened, guy never returned my phone calls. 😔 I wonder now what was in that hay my friend helped me buy, and I was buying alfalfa cubes from TSupply like I thought I was supposed to, but it seemed like the more he ate the skinnier he got.
I'm sharing this video, Danny, I hope that you don't mind. Poisoning the soil should be illegal. I don't want to eat the beef or drink the milk, eat the cheese or anything dairy from the store from now on. What about the pelleted feed that we buy for our chickens and rabbits? Could that be contaminated as well? If so, they are going on a new diet, because we use that manure for our garden.
The reality is frightening...poisons and irritants are EVERYWHERE! TOO many believe that if a product is available to buy, it is okay to use it. Thank you for pointing out OTHER examples of consumers not educated to dangers...and producers reaching for perfections. Now you and others have to deal with nonchalant practices. I appreciate the information that you both share. God Bless.
We grow our own hay-no chemicals! Good info
are you selling any? in SC
Can a person do well with 40 acres of hay? I currently cash rent to a farmer and want who sprays all kinds of chemicals on the soil. If I were to choose to grow hazardous free hay, how long would the soil need to correct itself from years of spray? Thanks for any advice on this. Northern Indiana
@@featheredcoyote5477 I have 35 acres of hay and it has been excellent for many years, but last year our friend decided to put fertilizer on it. I don't think it helped anything. It most likely just needed over seeding and moisture. I think letting a hay field be cut and allow to decompose every 7 or so years could be beneficial too, but unlikely to happen for most farmers.
@@christineoffthegrid6373 thank you for your response!
@@featheredcoyote5477 I'm wondering the same things. We are about to take back our family farm, which has been sprayed and overworked for decades by people wanting only to make a buck. It made our horses sick just eating the nearby grass and the one time they didn't plant Mnsto/the right kind of corn, the neighboring field owner sprayed something that floated over to our fields and killed more than a whole acre from overspray. Folks, this is ridiculous!! If the guy across the street from you sprays something and it kills your crops, especially if they are GMO, what is nature trying to tell us?!?!?
I have stopped using Blk Cow because of the grazon. Veggie growers---beware. Thank you Danny for making this video!
oh no thanks for the heads-up...had plans to use black cow in my garden beds this year...
This is what I've been telling my granddaughter.. I've seen some problems with her beans, where she used this yellow bag.. So, she stopped. But, she has been using it for a while.. I expressed my concern.. I personally don't believe any of it is safe. I believe in just a while, it will be shown that I'm right.. So, she's now at our compost pile..
naplescajun Now you tell me! Seriously thou, BC was my go to fertilizer every year. Will have to try other ways.
Thank you very much. I wish that I had seen this sooner. Like Miss State says, "wait until next year".
Oh no! We added this in small amounts last year and nothing has done well since. Thought I'd lost my touch, blamed the rain, etc. Maybe it was that damn manure. Should have stuck with out own compost, but didn't have enough of it yet.
Wow so many things untold what else are we going to find out. Good job u did
I had no idea how bad this problem is! Thank-you for sharing this with us!!!!
Danny I would have never thought that a person that sells hay would use a chemical like that. Like you, I thought the very first cutting was to help stop the weeds then all cuttings after were the standard type hay. Sad that we can't trust people that sell a simple thing like hay.
WoW!.This really blew my mind. No wonder there are so many cancers .Something so innocuous as hay could potentially be the hidden component that begins a death warrant. Thank you so much for educating me.
...I thought I was the only person in this world who back tracked all these details and put that much deep thought into every one those details!! My oh my... my new favorite channel!!!
My uncle bails hay! I use to drive the truck while he and my brother would throw it. I cant wait to ask him how he goes about this!!
You should write a book!! I tell my kids all the time - every generation before you is the best tool in your tool box! - Wealth of knowledge and experience- knowledge is power and you would be crazy not to utilize those generation while you still can!!
I just recently found your channel. - Time to play catch up!
Thank you Danny and Wanda for all you do. Ya’ll are truly a blessing to all of us trying to grow a better life for ourselves and our families.
When I contacted the representative for North Alabama from corteva, a dowdupont company, I learned that it’s not only the manure that’s a problem but I couldn’t move my vegetable garden or plant fruit trees on my own land because it had been sprayed with grazon by the guy who cuts hay from it. She told me it would take 3-7 years depending on how fast it percolates out of the soil. In other words, drains away into our water table. I found out about this product from a friend who used her own cow manure in a garden bed of tomatoes and peppers. For some reason her yellow squash wasn’t killed. She was told wait three years and try it again. In my opinion, grazon is a scourge second only to roundup. My two cents worth.
Aminopyralids are no joke - keeping them out of my soil is one of the reasons that I garden the way that I do. When they call an herbicide 'persistent', they ain't kidding. Those molecules will survive passing through a ruminant's digestive system, composting, and still interfere with any broad-leafed plant's ability to build new cells for years.
Wowwww! Unreal. Now I know why my plants look like this. I’m shocked!
Danny, thank you so much. This is what happened to our tomatoes last year! My husband had got a load of goat manure from a neighbor and spread it on our garden and flower beds. Our tomatoes looked just like yours. Our daughter-in-law kept saying something was in that manure, but we thought it was just too "hot" with nitrogen. Well....Katie Anne was right!
Tomatoes are a lot like corn , they almost can't get too much nitrogen , you just better have some tall stakes and a good pair of pruning shears , and less fruit .
Thank you so much for this ! People need to know, and what is it doing to your kid's and grand kids ? And the ground water for that matter ! Bless you Danny and Wanda !
Thank You for what you have done for All of us. Thank You I passed it on. And joined you today after I see how you take care of you’re home. Thank you.
I listened to this video on my way to work this morning. I think this is why I have been in such a foul mood all day. My compost pile is full up with hay from the chicken coop run. I thought I was building some of the best soil on the planet and now this. Dammit, how many things have to be against us. Thanks for doing the research on this. I would have never expected the chemicals on the hay to be a problem.
I been hearing about this for several years now . I knew right away you was going to say the hay .That's why I just like using leaves in the fall to make compost . My problem has been with drift from the farmer beside me . Last year he burnt down my turnips and winter squash with drift into my garden . They were burnt down in a couple of days after he sprayed .
You encountered GRAZON which is only one of the persistent herbicides, there are more. The four main persistent herbicides of concern are clopyralid (sold as Confront, Stinger, and other brands), picloram (sold as Tordon or Grazon), aminopyralid (sold as Milestone, ForeFront, and other brands) and aminocyclopyrachlor (sold as Imprelis, Streamline, and other brand names) .
Isn't imperils the herbicide that killed all those trees a few years back?
Thank you so much for this super valuable information. I had no idea. So many of us use our animal manure. Wow
Thank you so much for sharing this. Organic hay impossible? Enough of a DEMAND makes anything possible. ..... "What's in the grass?" Fantastic question!
I just learned about this myself. Been soil building with it too😢
THANK YOU! For sharing this information. I’ve lost count of the number of ways greedy farmers are poisoning us. 40 to 50 years ago there was always weeds in our bales,of hay and our animals ate just fine and were healthy. Didn’t have all the cancers and other illnesses animals have today. That goes into our bodies too. Got to keep the elite’s chemotherapy mill going strong. Try to eat healthy organic food and find out that’s all lies too. I stopped feeling bad for farmers a long time ago. Stay well.
I'm not so certain the blame is on greedy farmers so much as the greedy manufacturer's and distributor's of these products. By and large, farmers attempt to use "best practices " to grow their crops, as prescribed by the "experts ".
Ugh, that explains my squash and Danny corn. I work so hard to get further behind. Thanks for the info Danny.
Those chemicals only hurt your broadleaf plants. Corn is a grass, so it should be ok. Sorry about your squash!
Thanks Danny. I'm lucky in that my feed store buys hay locally from a farm that doesn't spray their hay. The feed store also sells non modified grains. He said that if he has a choice he won't sell anything that he won't feed to his own livestock.Much Love
Good catch and good research!! I now have to go back to the source of all that grass-fed antibiotic hormone free beef I bought and check to see if they sprayed this herbicide on the grass they ate...I also wonder about the bags of steer manure I bought for my vegetable garden...that manure could indeed contain that herbicide...it never ends...
Just 30 miles North of y'all in Purvis, we also have experienced the curled leaves. Thanks for a possible explanation!
Thank you for this! Just the other day my mail man told me he was getting ready to cut his hay. So, I showed him my back field that used to be a horse pasture and asked him if he knew anyone who needed another place to cut hay. He could have the hay, and I could walk back to my pond without getting chiggers all over me! He told me I should get someone to bush hog it and then spray it before cutting the hay. Now I know what he was talking about! Now I know what he's using on his 60 acres of hay!
edit to add: I just looked up Grazon and found this at the bottom of the discription!
"Hay from grass treated with GrazonNext HL within the preceding 18-months can only be used on the farm or ranch where the product is applied unless allowed by supplemental label".
From what you've researched and discovered, it sounds like nobody is paying attention to that warning.
Yes your right they don't want people to know.
mow that field a couple of times, bale it and sell it to those in your area who do not want contaminated hay. run you an add in the organic farmers newsletters/websites in your area. if that takes off then hunt you up a few more fields that have not been sprayed. you would be amazed how many 5 acre plus fields you can find and use that people own but pay to just get them mowed once a year. most will let you cut hay off of it so they don't have to pay to get it cut. i smell a business opportunity!😊
thank you Danny - I have been raging about the poison put into our food chain and all I get is eye rolls from everyone. yep. know where your food comes from and what went into all of it from seed/compost/harvest to table. stay safe
Thank you this is important information for all. To many people are worried about their self and don't care about others but they sure will pretend they do. Happy I found your channel .
thanks for bringing this important issue to light, danny! great video!
This was so important thanks for posting. I had trouble at my first farm finding organic anything. I got lucky with my first straw bed garden that the farmer didn't spray the straw I bought. Even though we lived in an Amish strong community area, it is hard as heck to convince multi-generation farmers that they should stop spraying their crops. They just don't think about the cycle of contamination. I was the only customer who bought the Amish non-gmo organic feed at the mill. >.< If we can't even use spent hay or straw in our gardens or feed our livestock...we really have to get really focused on growing our own fodder and need to research more. Most people don't have the land & equipment for haying...and if I have to do it it will be by scything, old fashion stacks & less animals to feed.
One year I got some inexpensive cow manure for my home garden, omg omg that year I had such a weed problem, so bad I couldn't grow much food. Now I ask a bucket load of questions before I get compost.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm just a backyard hobby gardener but it's so depressing to do everything you can to do it right but sometimes plants die...and it's not my fault. Even a veteran farmer such as yourself gets burned. I was just about to stop composting my yard and garden waste. it is a lot of work but well worth it I guess. Thank you again for sharing.
Wow! This makes sense now with my garden from last year. Thanks Mr. Danny!
I enjoy watching your videos very much. Thank you. Keep prepping guys. Get all your supplies now.
I just bought some bales of alfalfa and never even thought to ask if they sprayed it with anything. Now I feel Stupid i never thought of this. Thank you for bringing this to our attention
Thank you for your time and attention to detail! Thank you for the researched information efforts. Very encouraging toward a healthier lifestyle. Knowledge is power.
Thank you for letting us know.
That’s so important
Thank you kindly! I recall this issue years back
Thank you for your knowledge !!! God bless you and your family.
We love Danny and Wonda!! Thanks for teaching us!!
I knew this but you have stated your case very well. Thanks for reminding me of a danger that had slipped my mind. Good job.
Thank you. I always learn so much from you.
Good information! So much poisoning going on that we don’t even know about!
Thanks for the warning! We will be checking in the future!
New subscriber. Thank you for the time to research this and make people aware. Extremely valuable information.
I thank you for bring this out.. unbelieveable..
Thanks for the education Danny!
thanks for that tip...explains a lot ; we'll spread the word .
Thank you for sharing this. Seriously important information right here.
Thanks for the heads up Bruh ! Something I didn't know and will take your hard learned advice . And will pass this on to my friends !
Thank you for your persistence in the search. Good hunting.
Can’t thank you enough for taking the time to explain. Now I understand what is going on.
We just have an acre here. With what's going on we're tilling a few more plots and I was thinking just this morning that some hay might really be helpful... Thank you for this video.
Here comes deep south saving the day again.
Wow! I’m local and doing research for planning our future homestead. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Danny, We have had the exact same problem with our tomatoes this year. we couldn't figure it out but you solved it for us, we got a truckload of horse manure from a neighbor and every plant grown in it is curling up just like you said. at least now we know. thank you.
Thank you for sharing. We did not know and we are mad about it as well.
Thk u 4 the info,now I know what to pray over my plants.
O. M. G. Wow!!!!! Just Wow.
Thank you for sharing this.
Shared! Wow! Thanks for doing the research and getting this out!🤗
Thanks for making this video. I need to spread this information. I'm hoping they are already aware as I am just seeing this 2 years later.
Thank you for sharing this important information about straw and stay safe.
Great video. Spot on!
Wow Danny,my tomatoes were doing same thing-curled leaves-It started after I used too much fish emulsion.Thank you for sharing your finding of your research.Your findings will help so many of us.God Bless.
Thank you so much for this I had tomatoes do the exact same thing to me last year and I just couldn't get my head around it. but now I know thanks to you!!👍
Thank you for your research and using your video to inform the public....We just have a small garden, but have been aware of this chemical in hay for a couple of years....We mulch with leaves and shavings and grass clippings from our organic acreage.... Larry & Connie at Scoot's Organic Eggs
Best video I have scene in awhile. Good teaching professor
You are an inspiration and great resource. I compost leaves with veg, nana scraps and had a great tomato harvest last summer in northwest SD but this is news to me too. They spray for everything these days and it has to be a big contributor to the decline in our bird numbers along with bee populations.
I learned about this from David the Good, a few years ago, he lost a whole stand of berries, veggies, and more, but I had lost some plants, in one bed, at that time...we had been getting horse manure from a nearby farm...it was contaminated...I have avoided all hay or manure products since then, it can last in compost for 2 years...so glad that you found this out, I have been trying to tell folks in different garden groups, but it's funny, been a lot of scoffers...thanks for trying to tell folks!
I heard of another man who used hay as mulch of hay. Everything he planted died. Thank you Danny for this video. It’s a subject everyone needs to hear about. God bless y’all.
I care as much of you do. Now i have not idea where i going to get my hay. Thank You for this information.
Thank you for letting us know
I found out about grazon before using it and warned my neighbors.I didn’t use it. Some of them did and learned the hard way.I recently warned a neighbor not to use another neighbors manure because he had used grazon 3 years before.It killed his tomatoes.18 months is not enough for it to be gone.
Wow! Thanks for sharing your information and for taking the time to really educate us. I had no idea. I will need to investigate what chemicals they use here in my country on hay....this gardening thing is a constant learning experience 😂
Wow did not know this , thanks alot for posting it !
OH MY!!!! You have saved my garden. I was thinking about getting hay and mulching with it. I will be very careful now. Thank you very much for the info. I am sickened that garden has suffered. such a loss.
I saw your program 3 yrs ago and after a while i saw some of my beans and tomatoes the leaves curled up ,i no longer use hay. The only thing i use leaves,grass(non treated),buried branches,kitchen scrap,chips from tree cutters.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I am sharing this with a friend.
Wow! Thanks so much for this information.
Excellent video!! Nice to learn something every day!
Some studies show the herbicides stay in compost even up to 5 years, but mostly gone in about 2. If you have extra garden plots, I would spread it and plant and mow cover crops like rye, mustard (it likely wont grow well, but might survive) and Sudan grass for at least 2 years to clean and build the soil.
We are not far from you and I've felt like I was the crazy one looking for non-gmo or organic feed options for our animals. It's been hard to find and I've found many here are not real interested in it or the very reasons you mention. Thank you for sharing this information with all of us.
Mr. Danny It's been hours of searching for myself also, just to verify the "Organic" of my hay. I just got back from a meeting with the hay producer, and we've concluded that for the last 15 years none of the fields I get hay from has seen any fertilizer, nor pesticides, but the chem-trails were not as easy to document. Each of us here, { Me , Myself, and I } Guarantee, clean Hay. OH! YEAH!! I cut, rake, roll, feed, and cut my Stock Market, and their foods. Total grass fed, No antibiotics, no chemicals, and then when I harvest, I know what's on my table, thus in my Temple. A couple of years back I brought a beffer to be butchered, and when I went to pick up the meat, the son of the butcher screwed up and told me that the beefer I brought in was not the one I was receiving. 1st a pin could have dropped a mile away and the county would have heard it, Then as I was calling the sheriff, he {The Butchers son } informed me that his dad was sick and he needed the $ so by mistake he sold my beef. I hung up, and we agreed he would reimburse me for the beef + $0.40 / pound, that he screwed himself out of, and my next slaughter was free, with individual tags. The old man came around, healed and whole and we had a coffee, and he thanked me bunchessss for his son's foolishness, and wanted to know if I had any beef I would sell him for his own use. We're doing well these 5 years on, and others have tried to get him to share, those Personal cuts, and he just laughs.
Thank You for the tip, and I might have to pass it along to some of my friends around here. B BIG Time Blessed 2 day & 4 Ever. . . . . .
amazin !! good work detective Danny ,,makes ya think is whats important here, thanks