Food Crisis in Eastern Ukraine: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 103)
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2015
- Though it's within Ukraine, the area separating government-held territory and the region controlled by pro-Russia separatists has started to resemble an international border. There, at checkpoints, Ukrainian soldiers stamp passports, and stop and inspect trucks carrying goods to the rebel-controlled east. According to drivers prevented from crossing into separatist territory, the soldiers are purposefully preventing food from getting through.
In the east, food is becoming increasingly scarce. But instead of inspiring unrest and anger at pro-Russia forces, the shortages seem to inspire locals to blame the Ukrainian government.
VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky traveled to the front lines in the Donbas to cross the de facto border, then headed into separatist-controlled territory to gauge the seriousness of the growing food crisis.
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Damn, I laughed so hard when Simon asked that woman if she has seen any Americans around here :D
Such comeback :D
And the, "You don't support Ukraine, but you want them to pay you money?", Made her think a little. But I don't think she realised that sounds ridiculous.
Yeah, their mindset is pretty laughable, we know where she is getting her news from. Obama doesn't give a rats ass about the Ukrainee. Putin cares though, Putin has conquest on his mind.
yup. just proves how uneducated and blind they are XD.
May be the Ukrainian language is foreign for her.
Max Skill Her rekt face is priceless
No food in the store but a full isle of vodka lmao...
because. Russian. lol
Neeno Brown It's called russian peace.
option that it simply nobody drinking, no one considering?
***** Then explain to me why the rest of the shelves with goods empty and vodka are not touched?
***** I once was in New York, in a small shop in the same way alcohol stands...
"Aid comes from Russia"
**has EU flag all over it ** LOL
It comes from Russia idiot, because Ukraine blocks any aid, so international aid goes together with Russian aid from Russia. EU actually sends it to Russia to send it to Donetks, because their new best bud called Ukraine not allow it to get through
Tim P got a source to back that up?
Tim de Boer
RT told him so
They are as honest as Fox news!
Dee Jay Ah, RT. Glorious Russian news channel and the only purveyor of The Truth™.
Tim P That doesn't change the fact that the supplies are NOT Russian. So in reality the supplies did NOT come from Russia, but rather from the EU.
Ah yes just like old soviet times. At least it's like the good old days they missed so much.
SirVixIsVexed Soviet hamburger = two bread food stamps and one meat food stamp in between.
hackneo64 haha that's what life was like in the soviet union.. nothing but shortage and a lot of thieving drunkards.. the mentality is still the same sadly for russians and their followers..
I'm glad that my country Lithuania is part of the European Union. We're always getting better as a country, life's slowly improving over time, our country was wrecked real hard because of the occupation so it takes a lot of time to recover.. And now Russia is threatening us and everyone else around again.. This is a no joke threat, but a world war type of threat, something really to worry and prepare for.. Terrorists in the middle east are the lesser worry at the moment, unlike Russia's threat..
We also have lot's of great tasting food, healthy awesome traditional lithuanian food (google "lithuanian cepelinai"), traditional chocolate cake ("tinginys cake"), lithuanian doughnuts (damn they're good, especially when just cooked and warm), lot's more and great beer ("svyturys") too :)
Oh no, u did not hear Polish soldiers r ready to invade Lithuania. Not too worry, Putin will save u. U will get plenty of vodka and food stamps.
Ha fucking ha, looks like somebody trust the stereotypes.
Well, yea, grandma tells that it was fucked up, but not like right now in Eastern Ukraine.
hackneo64
I will remmember this, after our soldiers land at your home, and you will serve us your American apple pie.
Zomg, we're a proud independent country! Wait, why isn't Ukraine feeding us?! Fascists!
***** I know right? We've devastated your infrastructure, paralysed your economy and starving your people just to add some irony. What a great sense of humour the Ukrainians have!
There's a double irony for you: look at the hryvnia's inflation rate and Ukraine's social payments cuts.
Sobakus its called war...thats what happens...are you stupid....bottom line if they want to be a "independent nation" they must cut all ties with the old world and be ready to go to war and when you are in war you dont feed your enemy its not that hard to understand.The whole point of this new nation is to join russia but russia cant make to strong of a move because the world is watching.If you arent prepared to be a big boy dont act like one.
Ну так чего они не завершат АТО и не признают ЛНР и ДНР? Украина же считает это своей территорий, разве нет?
0prahTV
the Jewish country Israel receivers money from Germany and supplied in weapon in the past 60 years till this day because the nazi scum holocaust so you saying that they shouldn't pay for Israel? Cause the eastern Ukraine is the same case!!!
Oleg Lev почему? Считаешь своей территорией - плати, корми оккупированный народ и воюй, разве нет? Твои жители же.
haha Simon is killin it with them questions lol
you want money? Ask Russia, at the end you are called "New Russia", so what do you want from Ukraine? Ukraine should completely sealed-off the checkpoints...
Why would you need checkpoints? to create a famine genocide? they paid for the goods that they wanted to buy. It's their land, respect them!
Well they did vote for this in their referendum...
Monsignor
Well there were also other elections in Donbas in areas controlled by the government and no one voted against Ukraine. Poroshenko won decisively the presidential elections. The "elections" by the seps were a joke without any observers allowed other than a few nazis and communist from Western Europe organized under ASCE, which sounds almost the same for Russians as OSCE.
Monsignor i don't think they expected that Ukrainian army is going to start killing the civilians and destroying all of the infrastracture.
alex kuzmenko but they did expect illegal military groups to go around stealing territory and capturing government buildings in the name of Newrussia?
double standards? no?
Monsignor Exactly, lol
Monsignor So if Ukrainian nationalists take over government buildings and eventually take over the government it is good and the pro Russian people taking over government buildings in the Donbass region and trying to form their government its bad?
"I've noticed that some of the cleaning supplies are from Russia, shampoo and laundry detergent. The management says that they're trying to get shipments coming in and that there will be more from Russia."
Flipping classic. There is a completely open and porous border with Russia, where all kinds of illegal arms shipments and mercenaries are crossing continuously, and the shopping center cannot buy food from Russia.
Yet, somehow it is Kiev's fault that Russia is not allowing food exports...
Why did Kiev do that? Did Kyiv want to commit a genocide?
@@bhaashatepe5234 According to the "Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide," forcibly transferring children of the group to another group, with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group is actually genocide. This means that every time the Russians have "evacuated" Ukrainian children and then adopted them into Russian families, they have committed genocide.
@@bhaashatepe5234 However, if you have been bamboozled into thinking Kyiv has "committed genocide" then there really is no hope remaining for your brain.
"We don't support Ukraine, but we'll take their money." lol
Putinists confirmed for having the same mindset as welfare queen foreigners.
Humans in a nutshell.
Would you take the money from them if they bombed you 24/7?
MrWhataboss23 they don't just "not support", they openly deny it's existance. I mean like really, "Ukraine does not exist!!!", and that's not just bad language.
Иван Ерохин It's more historical context, than just "Country X sucks, country X is not real" bullshit
I laughed so fucking hard at that bit where the women kind of blanks after Simon asks her if she's actually seen any Americans and that guy off screen shouts "We've seen the Polish!" and then it cuts really suddenly.
I don't know why, but that is the funniest thing I've seen on CZcams in a while.
StopMinecraftVIOLENCE You got a shitty sense of humor.
Stop man I laughed so hard too, mostly at the Polish part hahaha
She's probably thinking why this idiot is asking her that, Simon is such an idiot. Imagine how much an American would stick out speaking English all over the place.
Mr HotStepper Yeah, the Polak' ghost army is taking over eastern Ukraine :D
TwoFistsOneHalleluja LMFAO!!! :'D
A lot of these people supported independence and now they have it but still expect Ukraine to fill their shops with goods. Perhaps, they'd be better focussing their anger at Russia whom pushed this conflict and has now left these people without basic necessities.
ukraine and murica have pushed this conflict. minsk agreements were created by putin. end of story.
dentheman T
topkek, gr8 b8 m8, r8 8/8
Penguinced1
i dont understand such language
the Jewish country Israel receivers money from Germany and supplied in weapon in the past 60 years till this day because the nazi scum holocaust so you saying that they shouldn't pay for Israel? Cause the eastern Ukraine is the same case!!!
It was russia that annexed the crimea and set up bullshit referendums
"Have you seen any Americans around?"
Goes silent... xD
that's what russian propaganda does to simple minds like hers;)
There is also irony when she said "There are! I hear foreign languages being used by the Ukrainian army!" Umm, I guess she took Ukrainian into account as 'foreign'
ofcourse americans are behind this, look at it now, the biggest lendlease contractor is america, it is a complete shitshow, you are probably brainwashed! look at the azov battalion, they have german uniforms, they worship bandera, their azov badge has a undoubtedly similar sign as the swastika they do a nazi salute here and there but no they are not nazis.
People blame America for everything, It's actually quite amusing.
***** "mainly pro russian" I laughed.
***** "In the best interests of his country".Yanykovych was the Kremlin's window into Ukrainian internal affairs.And his "democratic" election was accompanied by numerous accusations of voter fraud.By the time he fled from office,the only 3 oblasts that supported him were Luhansk,Donetsk,and Crimea.Because those are the places into which he invested the most.
which country would best benefit Ukraine, America or Russia?
the country with the best Military, GDP, Foreign aid, Universities, ext..
or Russia?
*****
topkek. u med brah?
***** The United States is the world's largest national economy with a GDP of approximately $16.8 trillion, due to high average incomes, a large population, capital investment, moderate unemployment, high consumer spending, a relatively young population, and technological innovation.
That last bit was brilliant!
"Where does aid come from?"
"Russia."
Then you look at the box and see EU flag and UNICEF written on it. So not only do they accept aid from the West they have so much, but they dont even acknowledge where it is coming from. This is just sad.
***** Source?
***** So are you going to give a source for your information or we not?
EU and UN is not the west
@@vandasaragosa3379 The EU is not the west...?
@@vandasaragosa3379 EU is not West? So they East Europe then? LOL
Wow, those people are so brainwashed.
Also civilians who were killed by Ukrainian forces very "brainwashed" and Cossaks gives them food
They dont need to be with ukraine. What wrong with that
SErbian brothers! YPPAAA!
Wait why would Ukraine need to pay pensions? Or allowed food to get thru? Why don't they go to Russia for all that? Not saying it is okay to do that to these people, but this seems hypocritical.
They want the best of both worlds
Strange people. 1) Did Russia invade Ukraine? Than Ukraine must defend people of Donbass from Russian army, right?
or
2) Did Ukraine attacked Donbass? Than Ukraine must starve and murder people of Donbass, right?
You can see that Ukraine does not care about Donbass people. So, who attacked Donbass?
Alex, Donbass was not neutral land, Ukraine did not attack anything, they barely keep up with the force of the "rebelling pensioners".
Because there are Human rights. You know. These people have right on their pensions earned by dozens of years of working and they have right to have a food. Read Geneva HR delaration, you ignorant idiot - food blockade of civilians is a war crime. The only hypocrite here is you.
FeoFUN Nop Constitution clearly states that anyone supporting or in agreement with a rebellious state can have all benefits revoked by central government. In fact Ukraine can stop the supply of electricity and water to the region, lawfully... but ofc Ukrainians are not Bolsheviks who would let the whole region starve to death.
LOL. The Donetsk People are like the people from Quebec. They want to separate from their motherland, but they want the motherland to pay for it. The moment that you rebel against your native country, you renounce any claim to any aid from said country.
For these people, Russia is the same as Israel for the Jews . But unlike the Jews, they live on their own land. This is Russia. Likewise, it was Quebec France
Константин Пахомов en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Ukraine#/media/File:Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG only 39 percent.
Edgy Bloke I know better, I'm Russian.
Константин Пахомов You're Russian, so you watch state tv and that's how you know better?
Edgy Bloke I see everything. Vice News for example.But you probably will not see the Russian state TV. Maybe Russia Today? I'm not a fan of Putin, but it is impossible not to recognize the obvious. The Kremlin finally had to face the Russian.
They back to soviet union. they love soviet, Putin and vodka. it is their essence.
***** did you get that from RT? dipshit
Fuck you! They are suffering because of fucks like you, who are thinking that the people want the war there...This war was brought by the Ukrain army, which is leaded by a puppet president, who is dictated by the USA.
This war was brought by comunist fucks like you and your gay russia !!!
MrArtisch
Hamilcar Barca
Lol, you gave yourself a like...how pathetic! Ukrains and Russians are brothers, you stupid fuck!
Ian Broshchuck They hate nazis? Then why Russia hosted meeting for European far-right recently? And there were real nazis in that meeting.
Russians who were protesting against that meeting were arrested.
Complains about not getting pensions from Ukraine, meanwhile supports separating from Ukraine. You people seem to forget how pensions work. Ukraine has every right to put the hurt on Russia for making this conflict as long as it has. Yes the people there suffer, but that's the consequence of rebelling against a nation.
TopShot501st Do you know where most of the money the rest of ukraine gets from? The east... That was where the most of the money comes from, because the west has no industry what so ever.
TopShot501st ya... if yanukovych hadn't been forced out by crazy Nazis none of this would be going on and Ukraine might not be in a civil war.
fascist
***** It's a rubbish to accuse in a war crime, because you don't know, that all pensioners regularly going to controlled ukrainian territory to get their pensions.
***** The point is that you have the RT, working for Kremlin propaganda, in your circles. Another point that you don't realise what exactly happened in Donbass region. You don't know that according to Tsar's census in 1897 62,5% of Donbass population were so called Ukrainians (because ukrainians are the truly ethnic russians, were called little russians before 1918). You don't know that officially 660.000 ukrainians became refuge in Russian federation an 1.3 million in Ukraine. Lots of people went to other countries. Other half of Donbass population have no possibility to leave their homes. All the pension age people still got their pensions regularly paid on their cards and can withdraw monies not on terrorist-occupant's, but ukrainian controlled territory. I assume that you have no a tiny idea where is Ukraine on the world map, otherwise you would see that it is absolutely impossible to besiege the Donbass region simply because one side is a border with Russian federation. The point is that some people should stop watch propaganda and make their own research.
When did Russia adopt the EU and UNICEF symbols???? After all it is Russian aid...
UNICEF gets it's funding from many different sources. The largest contributor is the USA. Russia is not even in the top ten of nations that fund UNICEF. I don't think Russia contributes at all. The UK, Japan and Sweden are also big contributors to UNICEF. The EU also contributes to UNICEF.
***** russia cant even feed its own people right now and all the humanitarian aid they provide is made out of 9K37 Buk missiles and shit like that.
***** Why don't you leave Russia if the conditions are poor?
***** Oh come on, I doubt that. I was chatting with a girl on a different vice video who was from Russia and now lives in the U.S.
thatsnotagoodidea UNICEF's CEO earns more than a million dollars a year. Some "aid" that is for the people.
***** What that the CEO makes over a million a year?
She hates ukraine but she wants ukrainian money?Wat?
***** but, someone young person in Ukraine will be paying her out. not fair,.women in Ukraine were homemakers of her time. so you are wrong
Ukraine has no pension stock - people who currently pay taxes form pension amounts. Since they separated themselves from civilisation - there's noone to feed them. Fair and square, works for everyone without exceptions.
kuraironinthis is typical for russian zombie mind. They hate USA and Europe but they use Iphone, Windows, dollars, Mercedes...
About the pensions - in Ukraine all the time before, there was a communist system of pensions which is not accumulated by all your work, but it is paid from today's young workers taxes. So they can say thanks to their lovely communists
Ukrainians want the Russian speaking population to stay in their country, and at the same time they are starving them and calling them subhuman?
jakatom
i am russian speaking all my life, so stfu!
Here come the Kremlin bots...
***** Yes but they are very annoying.
Ohh yea blame america for Russia's greed good job random Ukraine citizen.
But it's so true the Rebels get to have the amazing life of the USSR again!!! look at those breadlines!
I don't get their argumentation. They are not on territory under Ukrainian control anymore, so if they want their pensions so bad they should complain to Russia.
shouldn't you get pensions from the state you worked for and payed taxes to?
Vladislav Bondarenko The moment you rebel against said state you renounce any aid that said state owes you.
Ki-Young Jang I can agree with that. It sounds more like 3rd century AD though, not 21st century. Also keep in mind, they did not rebel against the country per say. They rebelled against the people who overthrew the previous government and installed their own "way" of where ukraine is heading. And even from that perspective, it doesn't make seance for usurpers to pay the pensions to old people in the regions that don't support them.
Vladislav Bondarenko Why would a state pay pensions to a region which is occupied by illegal military formations bent of destroying the state?
Vladislav Bondarenko Ukraine doesn't have accumulative pensions, pension money are taken from taxpayers. Region doesn't pay taxes, no opportunity of social payments.
Gotta love all that Russian humanitarian aid right guys? What do you mean you can't eat AK's and tanks? You aren't trying hard enough.
9:22 Interesting how these people who claim to support the annexation of the territories of Donbass expect them to be treated individually and also expect to be given everything from the country they betrayed. I seriously can't see what exactly makes sense in that. If it were for me, I'd block all the food coming in from Ukraine. If you don't consider yourself a part of my country then you don't deserve to reap the benefits of it and you don't deserve to be fed with my food. Feed yourselves or seek help from Russia since that's who you seek to join
Мои поздравления! Они добились чего хотели. Теперь им никто не запрещает говорить по-русски. Впрочем, как и раньше.
Дмитрий Сергеев вы убийца! они просили Украину устраивать войну? или им дали свободу? может им права дали? они еще боряться!
***** Nearly all the food like meat ,vegetables ,milk and fruits are provided by western Ukraine,West Ukraine is feeding East Ukraine
@@romanchizz как бы устроили войну они, они штурмовали здания СБУ и вешали свои флаги.
Fuck it was scary being alone in Russia as an American, let alone having your passport thrown back at you at customs when arriving..
Yes. Even the flight attendants were extremely rude and ignored anyone who didn't speak russian.
He is speaking Russian without an accent (well, it can be considered as some local accent, but still Russian).
I just imagine how Simon tells cameraman: Tsss! Shutup! Not a single English world or we screwed! And here I'm Semyon, not Simon!
Ouch... Well sorry you had a bad experience but it has never happen to me the many times I've gone :3 and my Russian is at toddler level haha
Some bad apples just spoil the bunch don't take it to heart
Ivan Huesca its different now, few people i know visited some russian border areas recently and they said the same thing.
***** Haha close enough idiot. I had a layover there and since it was snowing my flight got delayed so i had to stay.
For all russian followers
I remamber this russian paradise (empty shoops, no perspective for people, alcoholic addiction of the nation, only vodka vodka )
some people in the central Europe remeber this haven on earth.
Go there an try to live in this soviet paranoia
Long live Poland
Haha and they blame the polish^^
алконавт из польши вали в свой гондурас)
They break away from a country and then wonder why that country won't pay their pensions anymore?! Can't believe they seriously believe the country they broke away from should still pay them. It's quite funny the way people think they should not be held responsible for their actions and the consequences they cause. Not just in this conflict and area either but literally around the entire globe.
Braindead chickens that's what they are. Never thought about brighter future, always lived with the same mindset, watched the same propoganda television and spread their 'truth' to others. Their tongues connected to their asses not their brains.
If they have paid taxes all their lives in Ukraine, then Ukraine should pay them their rightful pensions, no matter where they live.
It's also a REALLY stupid decision made by Ukraine government. First they cut everyone's pensions, raise taxes and so on because they got rid of Yanukovych and signed the deal with EU/IMF instead of the one with Russia, people get mad at the new government, then this government sends tanks and start a civil war. In this war the government wants to take back the territory they lost and in meantime they also wage economic warfare against their own population.
These people will never ever want to be a part of a nation that wages war against them.
Lol Russia's still trying to cover it up
Great news report!
Hehe
PhlyDaily He is awesome. VICE is so lucky to have him.
PhlyDaily Stalin was a liberator who broughts jobs, food, and technogly to the masses in europe and asia. Stalin saved east europe from greedy capitlists and facists. USSR was most succesfull and powerfull civilization ever period. Who put the first man in space? USSR did Who put the first probes on the mercury planet USSR did. I still have trouble believing USA put a man on moon. I tink it was a hoax. Perahps putin can put a man on mars next 50 years or so. USSR colapsing was worst thing to happen to humanity on earth even putin a great leader agrees.
No...Epic news report!
Did you see any Americans!!?....dumb cow, one is standing right in front of you o_O
They want to be separated from Ukraine, but want Ukraine to pay them free money? Americans dont even get pensions any more. Guess you should of thought of that before seperating. I wonder if American colonists complained of lack of "pensions" from the King of England during the American Revolution.
Americans get both public and private pensions, and they are paid regardless of what country the recipient is living in.
Has anyone got video footage of these "Polish" soldiers some of these babushkas are talking about?
My granny had conversations to Jesus and saw ufo couple times, lonely old people need company and communication to stay in touch with reality.
czcams.com/users/tomekmacccc11videos
Андрей Борцов Any of those videos with Polish _soldiers_ ?
kevjtnbtmglr it's just an example of one of the Polish volunteer.
Андрей Борцов
But is he armed? With a weapon, a soldier.
Slava Ukraini! From Sweden ;)
Sad to hear that this is the way situation is. But this is what the east wanted.
and that food shortage it´s not even half compared to venezuela, and we are not even at war...
sad, but kinda funny
just interested, there exist food shortage in venezuela??
Moon Cat vice has videos on it. look em up.
killercaos123 ok, thanks. I watched only this Ukrainian videos from Vice, because this is most interesting topic for me. I will check it out.
Still it is so strange, Venezuela is warm country as I know which is not dezert so how can they have food problems.
Juuso Peltoniemi
There was a pop group called 'Simple minds'
Vodka, the essential supply for the average Russian man.
“Vodka must be of strategic importance because there’s plenty of it” ahahaha
As a person from the portion of Donetsk region occupied by the RUSSIAN ARMY (not leaving it for a single day) I'll figure this insanity out:
1. Lot's of pensioners GET PENSION BOTH FROM UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN-SEPARATIST SIDES. They reissued pensions in Ukraine, get it in the neighboring Ukrainian cities, and then get another (local) payments in Russian-controlled cities.
2. People actially voted for joining the Russian Federation (referendum for it was promised but never conducted by Russian-controlled separatists on 18.05.2014)! People in Donetsk WERE SURE THAT RUSSIA WOULD ANNEX OUR REGIONS LIKE THEY DID IN CRIMEA. PEOPLE WANTED NEW PENSIONS AND PAYMENTS AS HIGH AS IN RUSSIA AND CRIMEA (in reality, standard of living in RF doesn't differ much from Ukrainian.)
3. Being manipulated by Russian propaganda people cried out a year ago while voting on referendum "STOP FEEDING UKRAINE!! LET'S BLOCK SUPPLIES FROM OUR REGIONS FOR KYIV AND LEAVE ALL INCOMES HERE "
4. The number of locals fighting against Ukraine in Donetsk DOES'T EXCEED 20%. The majority of separatists are Russian mercenary (soldiers of fortune) and soldiers of Russian regular Army (they actually gain all battles)
5. THERE IS NO (or too very little) HUMANITARIAN AID FROM RF!!! Humanitarian supplies started in mid December 2014 by Ukrainian oligarch Ahmetov, who supported separatists formely.
Finnaly. Ask the woman IF UKRAINE HAS TO PAY PENSIONS TO CRIMEA DWELLERS.
Locals are absolutely turned into zombies by Rusian media.
It's on my bucket list in my life to someday meet and shake hands with Simon Ostrovsky. I think he is an amazing journalist.
Legendary journalist
Okay - hand it to VICE and Simon and his crew for getting a god damned crane shot in Donetsk.
jolly Crane shot?
collin ohlinger I think he's referring to what I think was a drone cam flying over a destroyed building
StealthyTNT Oh, was that what it was at 10 minutes? I thought they just got some construction equipment.
jolly I'm assuming it's a drone cam. That seems the most likely to me. It's a pretty popular thing nowadays if you want to get an aerial view of something.
Lost for words haha
What Ukraine is doing in this situation is making citizens think that Russia will indeed save them. They are going to see Russian food and assume Ukraine abandoned them. If they let food through that would be a small step to keeping the faith of the people in the the separatist controlled territory
Worry not, russia came
my view has changed so much since the war started the people on both sides are being lied to. War is not the answer sharing and living together is
Sunshine and flowers and ponies and rainbows. There, are you ready to come back you the real world that we live in?
Stephen Evans
Great it's a war, there is a fair amount of propaganda on both Ukrainian and Russian side, but you can trust much more the pluralistic media of the whole western world than system media of an authoritarian shithole at war which is Russia. And yes Russia is the villain here, punishing Ukraine for leaving it's sphere of influence and annexing parts of it.
it should really be, Here, if your of russian descent and want to live in russia, go live in russia. If you are of ukrainian descent and want to live in ukraine, go live there. however, 1. goverments are too power hungry, 2. there aren't free open borders and 3. people are stupid.
Stephen Evans
True. War just makes things worse and, as they say, truth is the first casualty in war.
Ukraine should have adopted a federal system with language guarantees for both Ukrainian and Russian.
Who really started this war? Russia? The US? (Remember Victoria Nuland and her "F*ck the EU!" comment?) Everyone is lying and everyone is corrupt, but the bottom line is that it's the little people caught in the middle that have to line up for a loaf of bread. Welcome to 21st century Europe!
X Acolyte You don't really know the region. There is no clear line where Russians become Ukrainians and visa versa, it is an extremely blurred line. The border between Russia and Ukraine was drawn up in 1919 by the communists. There is a huge amount of Russians with Ukrainian sounding surnames and visa versa. I am personally a Russian of West Ukrainian descent. This is one messed up and tragic conflict.
ridiculous. If you wanted to be part of one territory, then that territory should pay it. Not Ukraine. Besides, Donetsk sure does have a lot of budget for that? you've got Mother Russia that has a humongous wallet than Ukraine
I can't understand cuz ur grammar fucked up
sup Russian boi, yo pop Ben Putin?
I am getting really tired of russia.
***** What an argument
***** And then you accuse other people to be incapable of critical thinking!
***** Whats the difference between a smart russian and a unicorn? Nothing, they're both fictional characters.
XD ...... that's not actually true...there are some intellectual individuals. but the majority..nahh....there are people still who think that Stalin is is controlling Russia and the Soviet Union still exists. XD that's just fucking pathetic XD.
I really don't care.
old russian plant lady: its all Americas fault, simon: do you see any Americans here?, old russia plant lady: APRIL FOOLS.
I have never seen such a good investigative journalist as Simon Ostrovsky. Ever. bless this man.
Thanks so much Simon - another very good report. Stay safe!
LOL "i dont support Ukraine but i expect them to support us and pay us" LOOOOOOOL
Feeding the enemy?.. Sun Tzu is doing barrel rolls in his grave right now.
unbelievable, Simon starting to get things right.
Also good solid reporting VICE.
Woman : Americans are to blame for our problems! Where ever their nose is,war is! They thrive on war!
Reporter: Have you seen any Americans in this area?
Woman: *Long pause *
XD why ?!
Simon has done such a good job, honestly one of the best. Keep it up~
"have you seen any americans here?" "WE'VE SEEN THE POLISH" pissed myself
Vikings used to raid each other, strong against weak, and this got them no where. Just kept them all from progressing.
Yet here we are, a different time, a different place, repeating mistakes and not learning lessons. Using Russian military logic like this, you could make an argument for forgetting agriculture, and becoming cannibals.
It might make some people furious to read this, but to the world, Ukraine and Russia are same type of people, and yes I know that Russia is several different cultures. I just don't get it. If Russia wanted the natural gas, and oil, they could've paid for it, and built an economy off it, instead of this...
A1R5N1P3R the americans did the same to arabia so i dont know where or who u are but the world is full of mauraders the only reasonable ppl are actually the arabs cuz they are the ones who are being raided for millenia
***** I laughed so hard when I read your post; lol...
Why doesnt the Ukraine soldiers let the food not in???.Their people need to eat and drink??.This is not good..for their own people
Все верно. Я из Славянска считаю, что экономическая блокада необходима. Когда такое было в Славянске, я радовалась, потому что считаю, что жители, которые не понимают чего они хотят должны определиться.
Олена Гарная ти гIрше руснi
Ну вот привезли продукты из России, российские деньги и люди выбрали, определились.
Thank you Simon Ostrovsky.
So we ship them food from the EU and let them lie saying its from Russia? Shame on us.
What you can say.. Putler and his lackey's know theyr propaganda... What else you can expect from Ex KGB agent that got in power with lies, corruption and of course killing the opposition?...
"Украина нам должна помогать, они нам должны платить, однако но мы против Украины, мы хотим жить отдельно и ничего Украине за это не платить! Но Украина должна нас при этом содержать! Умрите, украинцы! Мы вас ненавидим! Однако дайте денег и еды! Неедленно!".
Это я описал весь менталитет идиотов (потомственных уголовников) Донбасса.
Логики не вижу, то есть выходит сча так, если моя бабушка работала в СССР то какого хера ей платит Украина пенсию а не парашастан? Ведь налоги то ишли в Москву. Пусть им ДНР и платит пенсии и прочее хотели же независимости
Well, these guys wanted an Independent Peoples Republic and one of the struggles of an Independent Republic is feeding your citizens, making a currency, trading with other nations for foodstuffs like Russia whom they seem to love so much and before they were saying they were getting so much humanitarian aid and food from Russia where'd it all go?
Please record on this subject in Luhansk
Vodka must be of strategic importance. :P
I thank god everyday I was not born a Mongoloid.
4:28 -- нормальный мужик, здравомыслящий, РЕСПЕКТ !!!)))
Oh god, the only section that's stocked full is the liquor section :) strategic importance indeed.
50 days in Jail for being drunk:-)
Sounds kinda steep for public drunkenness
VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky traveled to the front lines in the Donbas to cross the de facto border, then headed into separatist-controlled territory to gauge the seriousness of the growing food crisis.
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***** Fascists trying to turn East Ukraine into a 'Gaza' ?
Since when does seeing a few boxes of food on one day count as "a lot"?
***** If this so called "Novorossiya" wants independence, they have to own up to it. And Ukraine's helping them economically.
There has been 800 recorded violations by the Ukies since the Minsk agreement, funny sort of help?
No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the amurican public.
Fascinating.
Props to that trucker, tellin it like it is
Lol they want products from ukraine but they support russia. Let the o mighty supreme leader putin take care of your food hahah
значки запрета на огнестрельное и холодное оружие в супермаркете. логично, но все равно - охуеть!
Ужас когда война так буднично выглядит
Moon Cat Спасибо Гиркинам и Путинам. "Русский Мир" идёт.
Alilbas непохоже чтобы те люди на Украину мечтали вернуться
Moon Cat Я вам скажу, знаю что не поверите. Но все же попытаюсь. Большинство местных людей там уже беженцы. Большинство из них бежало не в Россию, а на Украину. Осталось то меньшинство, что кол на голове чеши. Они Этнические русские националисты и Россия готова использовать в своих интересах не только этих оставшихся, но и русских в других странах. Как я понимаю ВСЕ русские потенциальные предатели своих народов и стран. То ли Казахстан, то ли Литва, то ли Белорусь -не важно. Вы это знаете и нечего в ничего не понимающего либерала играть.
Alilbas ))) За что люблю вас "свидомых", вы не исправимы. Прошлой весной орали что за 2 недели задавите алкашей и бандюков,- теперь ВСУ и нацики до сих пор своих по полям собирают, при этом сами стараясь все больше ближе к городам да посёлками держаться, и оружие клянчат у запада, хотя сами имеете полный цикл производства всего что нужно благодаря ненавистному вами совку (хотя все развалили это да...). Теперь вы акцентируете на то, что вы такие правильные, кормите себя любыми небылицами про то как хреново другим, про то какие они плохие. Хотя в реальности сидите на кредитах, которые придется отдавать + % (Запад это не Россия, которая любит прощать долги лет через 10, там выгоду не упустят даже с мертвого). У вас не просто коррупция как при Яныке, у вас теперь её еще больше! На пару с беспределом отмороженных нациков, ульстас, и вернувшихся солдатиков (про олигархат вообще молчу =)). Недели не проходит без сообщение об очередной потасовке, рейдерском захвате и убийствах внутри страны. У вас цены на все летят сильнее чем на территории сепаратистов, России, Крыма (хотя вас спасает весь запад своими подачками). У вас пенсии не платятся (даже во время Чеческих войн Россия выплачивала местным пенсии, хоть маленькие но платила). У вас внутри страны пенсионеры не могут за квартплату заплатить. У вас встали или близки к остановки основные предприятия, а за ними и смежные. У вас самый бешеный уровень смертности в мире, и самая хреновая рождаемость. Вы не побоюсь этого слова "дебилы", гордитесь тем что у вас в стране больше беженцев с Донбаса чем в России! Это на сколько надо быть деградировавшим что бы таким гордиться!?
На последок скажу лишь одно: история очень сурово обходится с народами которые не смогли выработать свою модель государства.
big simon。good
"15 nights in jail for being caught drunk".
Behind is an advert for beer. Great placement, DNR.
Woooow it looks awesome to be part of Russia !!! I Hope they are happy now !!
back to USSR:))))
I feel there should be a meme made about the lady who Simon was interviewing when he threw her the Curve ball question. :D
Great Drone Camera shot camera views starting at 9:52
so all could understand - Kiev doesn't have their pension money - never had!!! Ukraine doesn't have pension bank - money for pension always came from taxes! If Kiev doesn't collect taxes there so why Kiev has to pay pensions there???
Exactly. The Ukrainian government has no obligation to pay the pensions of separatists who seek to remove themselves from Ukrainian society and from the influence of the Ukrainian government.
That knife cuts both ways.
@@PhiloAmericana
The government has the obligation to pay pensions for work that was already done, regardless of which country in which the recipient lives.
HEY i want my pension now and i dont want to be apart of the country thats paying it errrrrrr okay ?
Fucked up russians, what more can you expect from them. "they were speaking foreign language" that makes them american :D
Yes, they still owe them a pension regardless of what country they live in.
These people claimed that they fed the whole country, therefore they needed independence - to let Ukraine starve without them.
Blocking food supplies, pensions etc. Great, that's how you win hearts and minds...
They let you bring camera drones in?
@9:20 "How could they (Ukraine) leave so many people without means to live?"....
Am I missing something? They are in the Seperatist controlled area of Ukraine, right? These people wanted to separate from Ukraine and either become independant or part of Russia. Now they complain that Ukraine isn't doing this, that, and whatever else for them. They obviously didn't think the entire thing through very well or believed the lies that their independant government and Russia would provide for them. How is Ukraine being held responsible for pensions, electricity, gas, water, food, housing, etc. by these people? It's great that whoever in Ukraine is still trying to send things to them, but I really don't feel bad that a lot of it isn't getting through. All that stuff can stay in Ukraine to help the people that are in need there. These people wanted to not have anything to do with Ukraine. "Things would be so much better." Yeah, how's that working out for you?
It's good that you started asking questions. I will answer: the Minsk agreements did not grant them independence. Russia has not recognized these republics for 8 years, considering them the territory of Ukraine. And Ukraine decided to pacify them with a blockade and murders.
Good, now apply the same logic to Syrian rebels backed by the USA
That truck driver in the begining said it, WORD! And in the ending that notice board really get's you thinking, just imagine thoes notes stitting there and it's 'normal'.
I hope the best for Donetsk! Peace!
But, for example look at Sloviansk that got recaptured by ukrainian government. They are completely back in ukraine and ukraine rebuilds everything and there are almost no pro russians there anymore. Ngl, its not good what pro russians did with the elders and residents of Sloviansk before ukrainian recapture, but i think now after the occupation and than reoccupation. More people in Sloviansk will appreciate ukraine, which will lead to an (hopefully) united ukraine.
Thank you for your video, it had to be difficult and very Dangerous!
There very good and interesting ⭐️👍
Now it's like Leningrad when cut off from supplies and one thing about checkpoint inspection, it's like Papers, Please
Over and over again I keep hearing these pension demands. Those people don't have a clue how pensions work. It seems like they are under the impression that all their pension money is stored somewhere in a vault with their name tag on it. And the most ridiculous thing is that there's nobody there who could explain it to them.
Donetsk was a beautiful city, an industrial center of Ukraine. The salaries in Donetsk region were the highest all over the coutry.
Now look what happened: people believed to Russian propaganda about "Ukrainian Nazis", "Polish mercenaries", American army in the region etc. And now Donetsk looks like a f*cking Somali.
Just a shame.
We should thank Ukraine that Ukrainian army doesn't do with us the same Russian did to Chechens in 90s.
BTW ask refugees about what they think, nobody in Donetsk would tell you what he really thinks about DPR\LPR\Russia.
Separatist request for Ukrainian money is ridiculous ...
It looks like Zimbabwe, wonder if it's got any better?
And it's not a genocide of their own people? to impose bans on the food supply of the civilian population.
6:54 People always complain there is a Russian vodka stereotype yet here we clearly see there is a dearth of meat and vegetables but an abundance of vodka!