FIXING Spirit Battles In Super Smash Bros Ultimate

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  • čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
  • There are over 1000 Spirits Battles in super smash bros Ultimate, which means that some of them are inevitably going to contain some errors and mistakes. Today, I’m going to cover a few of the spirit battles I would change in super smash bros ultimate and how I would fix them, whether it be by changing the character’s alternate costume, the stage, the items, or even adding in DLC. I will mostly focus on franchises like Mario, Zelda, Minecraft, Pokemon, and Animal Crossing since I know them best, however I’ll be editing a few spirits from other franchises as well. So Join me as I fix some spirit battles in super smash bros ultimate!
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Komentáře • 465

  • @Teedgeee
    @Teedgeee Před 2 lety +425

    its so weird to me that pre-dlc spirits refuse to have the characters using the default alt for spirit battles, it makes some of them really weird as the default skin wouldve been the most fitting alt to go with them

    • @papereater
      @papereater Před 2 lety +57

      I’m pretty sure it’s because the alts are the “fake” version of the characters since the default ones would be the “real” versions of the characters?
      that’s just what I always assumed at least

    • @mdnaz9889
      @mdnaz9889 Před 2 lety +6

      I think it's that they are DLC. Characters that you have to pay for. Why would they be in the base game?

    • @thepurplemudkip9998
      @thepurplemudkip9998 Před 2 lety +34

      @@mdnaz9889 they’re talking about how no spirit battles use a characters default costume unless the spirit battle is from a DLC character’s spirit board

    • @aydenator2770
      @aydenator2770 Před 2 lety +12

      @@mdnaz9889 you misunderstood the comment.

    • @garfel1834
      @garfel1834 Před 2 lety +21

      I think it’s for the lore accuracy, because spirits canonically use clones of the fighters instead of actual fighters, which is why they use alternate costumes to distinguish between the “real” fighter and “fake” spirit fighters. hope this helps

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 Před 2 lety +237

    I agree with Gooey being the black alt. Gooey is a very dark blue and Kirby's blue alt doesn't fit that.
    Plus, Gooey's a Dark Matter, so it just lines up.

    • @eeveeon4081
      @eeveeon4081 Před 2 lety +8

      I was going to comment this exactly!

    • @IDKisReal2401
      @IDKisReal2401 Před 2 lety +6

      @@eeveeon4081 Same!

    • @Acxgal1972
      @Acxgal1972 Před 2 lety +8

      Actually gooey was originally black in his first appearance so it makes sense

    • @waluigiwah5724
      @waluigiwah5724 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Acxgal1972 Could also be a obscure reference to Dark Matter aswell.

    • @Sp3ctralI
      @Sp3ctralI Před 2 lety +3

      What about kirby’s maskless meta knight alt?
      It’s a very dark blue

  • @youngsorcerer23
    @youngsorcerer23 Před 2 lety +86

    One spirit I'd fix is the Pac-Man Ghosts, because they're all represented by a different character and don't look similar at all (including Pac-Man himself representing one for some reason??), but there are 4 Kirby alts that look EXACTLY like each Ghost's original design, so I don't understand why it is the way it is now.

    • @summonerofcats
      @summonerofcats Před rokem +1

      This is big brain time

    • @XanderPlays123
      @XanderPlays123 Před rokem

      I aGRee

    • @CoralCopperHead
      @CoralCopperHead Před měsícem

      Isn't there already a "horde of Kirbys" spirit battle tho?

    • @youngsorcerer23
      @youngsorcerer23 Před měsícem

      @CoralCopperHead That's not the point.
      Sure there could be other similar spirit fights, but I'd rather have the fight be accurate to the character it's trying to be rather than be different.
      If it needs to have something, maybe you can have Pac-Man as an ally who you can't let die like some other ones, y'know?

  • @Danewd98sChannelgaming
    @Danewd98sChannelgaming Před 2 lety +53

    I just want to mention that the only reason the Ribbon Girl spirit battle was changed was because she NEVER had a battle before the ARMs DLC. She was only craftable before. But I guess they decided to add Spring Man and Ribbon Girl to the board in order to have the full cast.

  • @smashbot500
    @smashbot500 Před 2 lety +180

    I'd also have the Kirbys in the Ghast spirit battle spam dash attack, because it turns Kirby into a fireball

    • @enigmatic3194
      @enigmatic3194 Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah... But on the other hand, Ghasts wouldn't really charge their frail bodies at you.

    • @smashbot500
      @smashbot500 Před 2 lety +15

      Would be better if Kirby could start with Mario or Ridley's copy ability or something

    • @dark.syndrome
      @dark.syndrome Před 2 lety +3

      @@smashbot500 that would be perfect ngl

    • @basiccatplush5247
      @basiccatplush5247 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@dark.syndrome true

    • @CJ-ln5ov
      @CJ-ln5ov Před 4 měsíci

      Personally, I think the Ghast spirit battle is perfect. Nobody on the roster could’ve nailed its role better than Andross.

  • @failure4452
    @failure4452 Před 2 lety +45

    Goro Akechi’s spirit battle should really use Joker with… you know, the alt that is obviously referencing Akechi’s colour scheme

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před 2 lety +11

      That would also reference how Akechi himself is far too jealous of Joker and is a foil to him, so using Joker is far better. If the Akechi battle was hard, that works even better because then it would really show Goro Akechi up. He would think “even possessed Joker fights better than me?” And curse him out in a Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain manner.

    • @PincessTrunks
      @PincessTrunks Před rokem +4

      I’ve always wondered why didn’t they use white Joker with a beam sword?

  • @SolemnStormcloud
    @SolemnStormcloud Před 2 lety +35

    For Flash Man's spirit, the Timer item is used to represent his weapon, the Time Stopper...even though Shadow the Hedgehog stops opponents in place for a brief moment after slowing them down in Ultimate, which is a much better match for the Time Stopper than the Timer.

  • @TurtleCraftZ1
    @TurtleCraftZ1 Před 2 lety +41

    Ignoring the Geno Mii Costume since it was added later, Sheik was still a pretty lousy way to represent Geno in his Spirit Battle. I personally think the best possible option would have been Mega Man in his brown alt

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před 2 lety +7

      Good point; Geno’s most powerful attack is a blaster attack which is a Mega Man thing.

  • @thegunnshow1907
    @thegunnshow1907 Před 2 lety +69

    Shadow should just be a Default Joker that spams Neutral B.

    • @DrRank
      @DrRank Před 2 lety +10

      For his Neutral Special, he wields a G.U.N. truck!

    • @ShadowSorel
      @ShadowSorel Před rokem +1

      or bayonetta spamming down and neutral b

    • @TheRealLegoDocOck
      @TheRealLegoDocOck Před rokem +4

      Or a Dark Sonic with a Steel Driver
      WITH AN INVISIBLE BAYONETTA THAT SPAMS NEUTRAL SPECIAL

    • @KG-rr4so
      @KG-rr4so Před rokem +1

      Ah, yes. A classic move.

  • @mr.pickledpenaut8363
    @mr.pickledpenaut8363 Před 2 lety +37

    the reason the spirits you listed are not in their default costumes are because they appear in World of Light, I belive that spirits that only appear on the spirit board can use the charecters default. it makes sense lore-wise why charecters can't appear with their default costumes in WOL

    • @dark.syndrome
      @dark.syndrome Před 2 lety +2

      shadow isnt in world of light i think, and yet he's represented by a light blue sonic (if it was meant to represent the actual sonic then why wouldnt they have changed the alt to default sonic?)

    • @mr.pickledpenaut8363
      @mr.pickledpenaut8363 Před 2 lety +7

      @@dark.syndrome i'm pretty sure sonic is supposed to reperesent sonic in Sonic Adventure 2, it looks like the light blue sonic has some of the ability items that sonic had in sa2

    • @perkilatorxiii5179
      @perkilatorxiii5179 Před rokem +5

      There are still Game & Watch Spirits in World of Light, though, that use his default costume.

    • @courage1363
      @courage1363 Před rokem +2

      Not ALL OF THEM, because your forgetting about Mr Game & Watch WHOOOM you can face in their DEFALUT costumes in all of the Game&Watch spirit battles.

  • @chaoticentityq9974
    @chaoticentityq9974 Před 2 lety +26

    One other one I’d personally fix is fawful, i feel like it would be much better to face a giant kirby in his dark alt, who will spawn after you defeat bowser in his blue alt (who will turn giant after taking a lot of damage)

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog Před 2 lety +51

    If DLC fighters adjusted base game spirits, then the White Piranha Plant should be used instead of Pac-Man for the Nipper Plant spirit battle.

    • @FoxMario9512
      @FoxMario9512 Před 4 dny +1

      I Guest That in the Super Mario™️ Waluigi Spirit Battle You Should Replace the Peach’s Castle Stage with the Figure-8 Circuit Stage and also add Mario in his 6sth Alt & Dr. Mario in his 7th Alt as Enemy Allies

    • @_-SpIit-_
      @_-SpIit-_ Před dnem

      they do, actually. specifically for the cuphead and mugman spirit battles, i believe.

    • @SonicTheCutehog
      @SonicTheCutehog Před dnem

      @@_-SpIit-_ That's just the Mii Costume DLC if you have them

    • @_-SpIit-_
      @_-SpIit-_ Před 23 hodinami

      @@SonicTheCutehog true that, but if thats the case then nintendo 100% know HOW to do it

  • @MasterDisaster64
    @MasterDisaster64 Před 2 lety +14

    Eggman's spirit should've been on Midgar with Scrap Brain playing. That would give the sense that you're fighting on his home turf.

  • @keeboreebo7042
    @keeboreebo7042 Před 2 lety +29

    I made a spirit battle for every boss in SMO :)
    Madame Broodal: Peach in red alt with a large golden PAC Man
    Topper: Luigi in normal colors
    Harriet: Daisy in blue alt and the only items are explosives
    Rango: Yellow mega man that spans neutral special
    Spewart: Donkey Kong with white alt and poison floor
    Knuckletoc: Kirby in blue alt with an invisible little mac who only uses neutral B with icy floor
    Torkdrift: White ROB with the blow vacuum item
    Mechawiggler: Purple Yoshi with super scope in reference to the tanks used to fight the mechawiggler
    Mollusque-Lanceur: Purple inkling who mostly uses up+B but can use other moves
    Cookatiel: Falco with red alt with a lava floor
    Ruined Dragon: Ridley in default colors with electric floor
    Bowser: Bowser with a lava floor
    Mechabroodal: Large ROB with green/brown alt with 3 small red falcos, with only explosives and the ROB is distracted by explosives

    • @ayskaripepperooni2770
      @ayskaripepperooni2770 Před 2 lety +1

      In mechabroodal it would be cool if the falcos helped you

    • @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527
      @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 Před 2 lety +4

      Wouldn’t a yellow Mega Man that spams neutral special be a better fit for Rango? Y’know, since his hat has a sawblade in it

    • @keeboreebo7042
      @keeboreebo7042 Před 2 lety +1

      @@friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 that makes sense. I’ll do that, thank you.

    • @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527
      @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 Před 2 lety +1

      @@keeboreebo7042 Also I think Ridley fits the Ruined Dragon a lot better, seeing as it’s a realistic thing that’s very out of place.
      Also, PAC-MAN should be gold as well, because Chain Chompikins is a golden Chain Chomp

    • @Hungryburgerenjoyer
      @Hungryburgerenjoyer Před rokem +1

      @@ayskaripepperooni2770 they could also add some charachters to represent the broodals, but u would only half to kill the rob

  • @spacesoccercowboy6091
    @spacesoccercowboy6091 Před 2 lety +113

    For the Blooper spirit, I would love to change the Inklings running away from you to fighting you. No way they avoid you in the Mario platformers, they are the bane of my existence in water levels.
    Edit: Blooper is not in the vid sadly

    • @supermaximglitchy1
      @supermaximglitchy1 Před 2 lety +10

      the bloopers try to swim above your height
      you can avoid them using that trick in the super mario series
      the inkling running away from you could be better in combination with them jumping a lot

    • @courage1363
      @courage1363 Před rokem +2

      @@supermaximglitchy1 NO it wont because the Bloopers dont run away from you at all because the reason whey jump is the way they swim OR float in mid air.

  • @intotheindievods8821
    @intotheindievods8821 Před 2 lety +11

    Just so you know, the reason why Mallow is Robin is because Mallow is the mage of the team, able to use various elements for attacks. So you're kinda right that Kirby is closer to the look and Robin is closer to the function

    • @TheGameCreator13
      @TheGameCreator13 Před rokem +3

      Now imagine if they gave Kirby Copy abilities in Spirit battles. Kirby with Robins lighting shock move would work too well!

    • @intotheindievods8821
      @intotheindievods8821 Před rokem +2

      @@TheGameCreator13 That would be cool

    • @tmntlorefan7518
      @tmntlorefan7518 Před rokem +1

      Which is why it makes sense for they're to be two different versions, of course Mallow's spirit would pick a body closer fit for his fighting style, meanwhile Geno's spirit just copied Kirby's body to represent his good ol' pal Mallow!

  • @dynosgarcia7645
    @dynosgarcia7645 Před 2 lety +11

    The idea of having (almost) no one in the base custom is only applied to spirits that appear in the (rightfully ignored) story mode, were lore says that they are "clones" so they have to have a different custom

  • @Sunny-vp7lr
    @Sunny-vp7lr Před 2 lety +12

    For the ‘kid’ spirit, you could also have peaches/daisies spamming forward smash with the golf club!

  • @corasharktale
    @corasharktale Před 2 lety +14

    It straight up angers me that the toad spirit uses a mii with the toad suit and the super mushroom hat even though there is a literally toad hat.

  • @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527

    I think it would be funny if the Happy Mask Salesman was just Mario in his purple alt (since he has a Mario mask on his bag)

  • @PinkGoldPeach23105
    @PinkGoldPeach23105 Před 2 lety +10

    I would change the Pauline spirit battle to be in omega 75m instead of normal 75m because that stage sucks and makes the battle terrible

  • @Dieselnaut16
    @Dieselnaut16 Před 2 lety +7

    Odyssey central more like

  • @dayvonlouis5187
    @dayvonlouis5187 Před 2 lety +7

    The thing that always bothered me was the fact that Kyogre and Groudon can rank up to their primal form but mega Rayquaza was a no go

    • @ethantreadway9478
      @ethantreadway9478 Před 6 měsíci

      Yea, and Rayquaza is a Primary Ace Spirit, the chance for Mega Rayquaza was right there!
      Or to be honest they probably didn’t include it to not remind us of the Days of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire Online Battles. And in case your wondering Mega Rayquaza was banned even from Ubers to a Tier of its own.

    • @dayvonlouis5187
      @dayvonlouis5187 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ethantreadway9478 but they included freaking mega Mewtwo and Arceus talk about a missed opportunity

  • @WiiUFan-jj3is
    @WiiUFan-jj3is Před 2 lety +2

    Glad that the icon himself, Strollin Stu, is slowly becoming more and more important in the Odyssey Central lore

  • @Garomasta
    @Garomasta Před 2 lety +4

    I think the reason Waluigi is fought on Peach's Castle is because of the bumper, which is one of the hazards in Waluigi's Pinball course.
    Gooey is dark blue so I think dark Kirby actually fits better than light blue Kirby. It might even be a nod to Gooey's relation to Dark Matter.

  • @glitchking2801
    @glitchking2801 Před 2 lety +5

    Fun fact in the instruction manual for dreamland two or three I forgot with one you do actually see gooey as a black blob instead of a blue one

  • @PincessTrunks
    @PincessTrunks Před 2 lety +7

    You forgot to mention Rex got a mii fighter costume that could be used in his spirit battle

  • @pokefanalex9504
    @pokefanalex9504 Před 2 lety +14

    One that I feel needs a change is the Smoky Progg cause outside the Stage it makes no sense at all
    Mario as a fighter makes no sense given it's a frog like creature so give it a K Rool or Ivysaur for the fighter. Making it occasionally be metal I mean its immune to poison but it literally emits poison gas from its body as it walks so change it to a Poison floor or fog (to represent the smoke). Also its boost as a spirit to give the player Urina (idk how to spell it) makes no sense when again Poison based stuff is a mechanic in the game. And if the issue is that it's the first spirit in the game... then put a Mario spirit first and just put the Smoky Progg a bit later

    • @dazcarrr
      @dazcarrr Před 2 lety +2

      it's not even as if that's an iconic character, there is a good percentage of people who have even played pikmin 1 that never really met this dude

    • @pokefanalex9504
      @pokefanalex9504 Před 2 lety +2

      @@dazcarrr While that's true it's not iconic it still feels dumb that lots of spirits (even ones that are even lesser known) have more accurate fights than it

    • @dazcarrr
      @dazcarrr Před 2 lety +1

      @@pokefanalex9504 i was saying that as a point towards a different first fight, because smoky progg is in no way a "first enemy" character, and is also practically unheard of outside a relatively small group of people
      i phrased it a little weirdly

    • @pokefanalex9504
      @pokefanalex9504 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dazcarrr ohh I see my bad. I completely agree with that!

  • @kirbo5222
    @kirbo5222 Před 2 lety +14

    My guy pours out the best content constantly

  • @AndreasSADFACE
    @AndreasSADFACE Před 2 lety +1

    This has to be the earliest I've been to one of your video's! Can't wait to watch it!! 🌟

  • @jpreaux76
    @jpreaux76 Před 2 lety +2

    9:04 Petey Piranha has a normal spirit but you need to enhance nipper plant.

  • @cd-ramos
    @cd-ramos Před 2 lety +5

    Odyssey is my favorite Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Spirit youtuber

  • @Malex2005
    @Malex2005 Před 2 lety +5

    Another obvious change to make is to make the Aegislash spirit represented by Pyra/Mythra. They're literally the Aegis.

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed Před 2 lety +4

    Geno is from space so the stage choice indeed makes sense

  • @bonedude1286
    @bonedude1286 Před 2 lety +12

    Request: Making a Spirit battle for every boss from Cuphead (not including the DLC bosses when they come out).

  • @thespinodino
    @thespinodino Před 2 lety +1

    “Strollin’ Bozo” really got me and I don’t know why.

  • @thomased22legoyodagaming
    @thomased22legoyodagaming Před 2 lety +5

    Actually, the ghast being metallic/artificial has some lore significance. In an official book that officially confirmed a bunch of theories to be true (such as the creeper having a TNT inside of it and being plant like) also directly shows us that a ghast is made of redstone components. This is straight up an official source of lore too btw.

  • @earlkowalczyk6453
    @earlkowalczyk6453 Před 2 lety +4

    It's about time for some of these

  • @Kaelubh
    @Kaelubh Před 2 lety +3

    Hey man, I want to thank you for putting the best video ever in all your descriptions 😭 It really means a lot haha. I really enjoy your content too

    • @Odyssey_Central
      @Odyssey_Central  Před 2 lety +1

      I will continue to put it there for as long as CZcams has descriptions, can never thank you enough for making that masterpiece

    • @Kaelubh
      @Kaelubh Před 2 lety

      @@Odyssey_Central 11 year old me had a mind of his own

  • @aidenrank2059
    @aidenrank2059 Před 2 lety +1

    You are so close to 100k I'm excited for the moon ranking video keep up the good work

  • @amesstarline5482
    @amesstarline5482 Před 2 lety +4

    What has me surprised is that Blaze the Cat's spirit isn't a Lucina mod, or even a subtype where it's a spirit for Sir Percival- Laura Bailey voiced both Lucina and Blaze.

  • @Hello86257
    @Hello86257 Před 2 lety +2

    11:44 there is a theory that the ghast is a robot, but i think they just did that for the color

  • @GamerGamerGamer77777
    @GamerGamerGamer77777 Před 2 lety +1

    Oh my goodness Odyssey Central posted a new video my day has gotten 25% more better.

  • @StrawBerryFurnace
    @StrawBerryFurnace Před 2 lety

    You're Almost at 100K That's great!

  • @cam7990
    @cam7990 Před 2 lety +6

    I would actually change the Iron Golem to a white Donkey Kong, to better represent the fact that Iron Golems are physical brutes

    • @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527
      @friendlyyoutubecommenter4527 Před 2 lety +1

      And he starts the battle under the effects of a Metal Box, because IRON golem

    • @paulinebunag4875
      @paulinebunag4875 Před rokem +1

      But ROB looks similar to the iron golem (in terms of appearance)

    • @cam7990
      @cam7990 Před rokem

      @@paulinebunag4875 No he freaking doesn't????

    • @vik.o1598
      @vik.o1598 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@cam7990Also iron golems are robots

  • @franciscofranco1314
    @franciscofranco1314 Před 2 lety +12

    Wouldn't one of the Belmonts be better for the Hammer Bros spirit because of the Axe? I mean it travels in the same arc as it, it goes through blocks, and is closer to a hammer than Yoshis egg.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 Před 2 lety +1

      I guess Yoshi is Mario-related so they went with a character in Mario versus a character not in Mario.

    • @franciscofranco1314
      @franciscofranco1314 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iantaakalla8180 Fair enough. Yoshi looks more like a Hammer Bro than the Belmonts (and is as equally annoying). However I always thought the process of spirits went down a ladder of importance of sorts. I.E they base the battle on the moveset similarity before basing it of looks

  • @Theguywhosucksatbulidinglego

    Fun fact: in rex’s old Spirit battle the floor was fire do you need a fire resistant spirit to beat the spirit battle
    Correct me if I’m wrong

  • @MegaPhycoKiller
    @MegaPhycoKiller Před 2 lety +1

    I think the reason why shadow isn't a black sonic is because the devs considered the possibility that a player could confuse the enemy with the assist trophy

  • @lindseydeweese3162
    @lindseydeweese3162 Před 2 lety +1

    Congrats at 100k subs!

  • @IcyDiamond
    @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +7

    Fun Idea: Giving a spirit battle to every playable character in Smash Ultimate

    • @Odyssey_Central
      @Odyssey_Central  Před 2 lety +10

      Hmmmmm maybe I could do that but I CANT use the character themselves, that could be interesting 🤔

    • @IcyDiamond
      @IcyDiamond Před 2 lety +2

      @@Odyssey_Central Yeah the one rule could be not using the characters themselves or their echo fighters

    • @robcastxm
      @robcastxm Před 2 lety +4

      @@Odyssey_Central that WOULD be a pretty interesting concept… shows how much you can represent these characters without actually using those fighters, like conditions, stages, and BGM

  • @FaceSlapStudios
    @FaceSlapStudios Před 2 lety +1

    I love this guy, he's just so funny! Keep up the good work!🤣

  • @stickfigure_gd1769
    @stickfigure_gd1769 Před 2 lety +2

    Your videos are amazing!

  • @Lincolnium_
    @Lincolnium_ Před 2 lety

    Bruh, i went to bed last night and you had 98.5k subs, and now you have 98.6?! Good job my dude!

  • @maxlotwomikey1.097
    @maxlotwomikey1.097 Před 2 lety +2

    For the Shadow spirit battle, I like to think the blue Sonic is supposed to reference how Shadow and Sonic were originally supposed to be equals.
    Also before they decided to start using the default alts.

  • @ivrydice0954
    @ivrydice0954 Před 2 lety

    Dang I got here quicker than I thought. :/
    Also as someone who likes Spirits and wishes they could be better. I really like this video's idea.
    Can't wait to see it. :)

  • @kUHASZ
    @kUHASZ Před 2 lety +2

    13:39 GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

  • @TheLobsterCopter5000
    @TheLobsterCopter5000 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The Spirit Battle for The Odyssey is actually programmed wrong. The conditions list says it uses the "enemy is hard to launch" condition, but in the actual battle, the "easy to launch" effect is applied instead. This can be easily seen by the fact that the easy to launch effect makes the launch physics floatier, while the hard to launch effect makes the physics stiffer. It also increases the knockback the opponent (Jigglypuff) takes from set knockback moves like the first hit of Chrom's up B, and in Ultimate, set knockback moves ignore all knockback modifiers in the game EXCEPT the easy to launch effect in Spirit Battles.
    I think this actually breaks the Spirit Battle, as the other conditions are that Jigglypuff is giant and she shields often. If the hard to launch effect were applied properly, Jigglypuff would be a lot more resistant to knockback, so the easiest way to KO her within the time limit would likely be to break her shield, which as we all know KO's Jigglypuff instantly. Perhaps this represents the Odyssey getting damaged and crashing...idk but this seems to be how you were INTENDED to beat the Spirit Battle, but because they applied the wrong effect, Jigglypuff is trivially easy to KO normally.

  • @MaxWelton
    @MaxWelton Před 2 lety +2

    1:49 Wario’s Bike doesn’t get a Spirit, but fucking Wii Fit poses do. Get it together, Nintendo.

  • @uprising4c19
    @uprising4c19 Před 2 lety +1

    I can understand your issue with the defaults being better, but I think the reason Sakurai went with changing palettes a lot was to link with World of Light's lore on spirits and the clones. I personally didn't mind that decisions since I do like details that make things more fleshed and planned out, but I can see where the issue lies. Side note, I love that game mode, despite what the fanbase says.

  • @kenyodagilbert4675
    @kenyodagilbert4675 Před rokem

    The shadow spirit is the one that I was confused because they should have use the black alt for sonic I glad you fix that

  • @simplyNKH
    @simplyNKH Před 2 lety

    CONGRATS 🎉
    100k

  • @wahbro3380
    @wahbro3380 Před 2 lety

    Loved the video dude! Are you considering making one making a no-no Sans Undertale spirit?

  • @matthewisguy7336
    @matthewisguy7336 Před 2 lety +1

    1:26 “Dry Bones for Smash!”

  • @Linksond
    @Linksond Před 2 lety +4

    One change I’d make is change the Lucina for a Byleth in the Mòrag spirit since Byleth's weapon resembles Mòrag's weapon the closest!
    Also, play the Xenoblade games, they’re truly incredible games

  • @Aplay1O1
    @Aplay1O1 Před 2 lety +1

    Less Then 1k Subs Left! Love The Content!

  • @nintavito546
    @nintavito546 Před 2 lety +4

    I honestly don't know who I would choose to represent Mallow's spirit...
    Spolier alert for Super Mario RPG:
    Mallow is someone who was raised by frogs and he believes he's a tadpole, until he learns the truth that he comes from Nimbus Land, a cloud area. So yeah, he's a cloud person... And his powers are weather based like rain, lightning and snow.
    So I thought of using Lucas or Sora because of their specials but they use fire attacks which Mallow does not. In Mario RPG, Mario is the one with fire attacks so I don't think he would fit that well.. Maybe Lucas would fit better because both of them are described as crybabies and Mallow uses sticks as weapons like Lucas but I have no idea of which costume to pick, maybe the one with the purple t-shirt to represnt Mallow's signature color in SMRPG which is purple.
    I would also change the stage to be Rainbow Cruise or Skyworld to match the sky theme better.

    • @mrunderhill8960
      @mrunderhill8960 Před 2 lety +1

      I think Kirby with Robin's hair would be the best of both worlds; it keeps Mallow's thunder magic without giving him Robin's full elemental set.

  • @PunkBrainwave
    @PunkBrainwave Před 2 lety +12

    When choosing a character, most people use their default costume. Most of the spirits use alts to not confuse new players

  • @gamesier2400
    @gamesier2400 Před rokem +2

    I like mask seller battle because it's like he corrupted Link and order it to battle, if deku link was playable it will make sense for me too.

  • @Sebboebbo
    @Sebboebbo Před 2 lety +1

    Da king is back baby he neva miss

  • @yellowpowr8455
    @yellowpowr8455 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I've said this once, and I'll say it again: Smash Ultimate is the perfect game for CZcamsrs, because a game which such a massive amount of content as this game is bound to have plenty of minor nitpick-able details within it for people to talk about in their videos.

  • @thatgamernoob5186
    @thatgamernoob5186 Před 2 lety

    Would one of the larger videos be ranking all moons? For whatever reason i get the feeling that one would take a while

  • @caitlinabbott7895
    @caitlinabbott7895 Před 2 lety +2

    8:32
    "Gee, I don't know
    Can you all figure out how I would change the Min Min Spirit?"

    • @FoxMario9512
      @FoxMario9512 Před 4 dny +1

      You Could Use Min Min as an Enemy Fighter in the Min Min Spirit Battle

  • @sickboy8199
    @sickboy8199 Před 2 lety

    I agree with everything honestly. But I got the Piranha Plant screaming had me dead for about 5 minutes😂.

  • @irrelevantonyt
    @irrelevantonyt Před 2 lety +1

    11:40 in an official mincraft guide book the Ghast is explained to be a robot, so I think it might be a suuuuuper deep cut. Might be a stretch though and they just wanted some variation lol

  • @coos8730
    @coos8730 Před 2 lety +4

    When dry bones doesn’t even get a spirit LMAO

    • @TAYBR00K
      @TAYBR00K Před 2 lety +2

      Dry Bones for smash

    • @RJIS
      @RJIS Před 2 lety

      Dry Boners + u getting bullied in odyseey discord

  • @dark_bones_ultimate
    @dark_bones_ultimate Před rokem

    I think the reason that the Shadow spirit is represented by Sonic alt 3, is because Shadow did originate in Sonic Adventure 2, and since Sonic didn’t have his Soap Shoes in the game, but the Crystal rings on Sonic r actually a reference to what he wears in the first Adventure game, so I guess it kinda makes sense, but then again it’s weird they didn’t use the black alt

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken Před 2 lety +2

    To be fair, gooey has attacks that resembles zero 2 and using the dark Kirby alt represents that.

  • @shyguytimmy
    @shyguytimmy Před 2 lety +2

    Actually, the dark kirby alt is very dark blue to represent meta knight. (Read in very obnoxious nerd voice like in the bit about the bomb bomb spirit.)

    • @spacesoccercowboy6091
      @spacesoccercowboy6091 Před 2 lety

      **Nerd Voice** ummm... Actually, they're called Bob-Ombs... Dont you know that?

  • @lucakiami8988
    @lucakiami8988 Před 2 lety

    I'm surprised the Tiki Tak Tribe spirit battle wasn't covered in this video. It resembles them to absolutely zero extent other than the music being from Country Returns. So here's what I thought of instead:
    Seven Mii fighters wearing a Skull Kid mask to match the tribal aesthetic of the Tikis' designs and some other outfit (haven't thought of which one yet). One of the first four will start with a Pokéball containing a Meloetta, and your left and right controls will reverse, nodding to how they use their music to hypnotize.

  • @legionbeast
    @legionbeast Před měsícem

    Mallow's trademark is his ability to use lightning based attacks. Kirby is shaped like him, but Robin has more lightning skills of different strengths, just as Mallow does.
    Mii Gunner as a stand in for Geno is fine enough since Geno is all about projectiles and never gets in close.

  • @inklingsquid4688
    @inklingsquid4688 Před 6 měsíci

    I think the reason why the pre dlc spirits didn’t use defaults is that they were made for WOL where the defaults are the main characters, so it wouldn’t make sense to free a character only to see them again being evil

  • @memedood
    @memedood Před rokem +1

    The Reason Why The Nipper Plant Spirit Has The Super Mario Maker Stage Frozen In The Super Mario World Is Because They Appeared In Yoshi’s Island To Which Was Originally Released On The Same Console As Super Mario World.

  • @barrybbenson2391
    @barrybbenson2391 Před 2 lety +2

    9:51 that’s what the mask is

  • @aguynamedGraham
    @aguynamedGraham Před 2 lety +1

    Gooey being Black Kirby might be a reference to Gooey being part of the Dark Matter “Species” but even then I still agree they should have gone with blue Kirby
    Maybe it could start a blue Kirby and once you ko them a giant dark Kirby can appear to represent that but as it stands it’s just really weird

  • @WolfereenYT
    @WolfereenYT Před 2 lety

    Wooo, new video

  • @palpatinerocks3260
    @palpatinerocks3260 Před 2 lety +2

    Why so much hate on rosalina?

  • @EclipseForever-xo2qp
    @EclipseForever-xo2qp Před rokem

    Will there be another part of this topic?

  • @PincessTrunks
    @PincessTrunks Před rokem

    For the Happy Mask Salesman, the fight could be against purple Richter with small Meta Knight minions representing the masks.

  • @ilan4798
    @ilan4798 Před měsícem

    also the great idea of fixing any spirit i just got an idea
    so the spirit vs diancie i really want something is fixed so the main fighter is peach white color to match the same dress color and 4 tiny blue kirbys to make sure these 4 tiny blue kirbys match the same as the carbinks, also the main goal vs the spirit is beat the main fighter to win

  • @triggeredcheese5318
    @triggeredcheese5318 Před 2 lety +2

    the sonic alt in shadows battle is supposed to represent sonic himself. the reason they didnt choose the default option was because of the equipment sonic gets in the sonic adventure games one that looks really similar to his glowing wristband

    • @dark.syndrome
      @dark.syndrome Před 2 lety

      yeah but why not use the black sonic alt to represent shadow? like yeah i know shadows already there because of his assist trophy but thats the same thing as waluigi

    • @triggeredcheese5318
      @triggeredcheese5318 Před 2 lety

      @@dark.syndrome maybe to reference the duology theming in SA2

  • @ryanwebb309
    @ryanwebb309 Před rokem

    I think Sonic's appearance in the Shadow fight is a reference to Sonic Adventure as a whole; His blue alt. has blue wristbands, which are a reference to the Crystal Ring from Sonic Adventure.

  • @proto_maver1ck
    @proto_maver1ck Před 2 lety +1

    For the Andross one I think Old Manondorf fits perfectly
    I mean, Andross is very malevolent
    DK is not that.
    You do the math

  • @datbx
    @datbx Před rokem

    for the happy masked salesmen i would make it a series battle where you fight characters based on the mask salesmens different maskss

  • @justsomesimplenuclearbirbs4313

    If we're going to be changing Spirit Battles I'd like to mention that despite his Mii Costume coming back, Knuckles The Echidna *doesn't* have a spirit *at all.* So on top of giving the Tails Spirit his Mii Costume if purchased for the Spirit Battle I'd say we give Knuckles a Spirit Battle of his own with either Mario in his default costume (which would reference the rivalry both SEGA & Nintendo and their respective fanbases had in the process) or Roy/Ike (which references both Sir Gawain from Sonic and the Black Knight and Knuckles association with fire in some games) if you didn't own the costume like how if you didn't have the Cuphead Mii Costume it would be Mega Man instead. The stage would be either Palutena's Temple (which references Sky Sanctuary and it doesn't matter which form it's in) or Tortimer Island in either Ω or Battlefield form and the music would be Angel Island Zone.
    Now for a Spirit Battle I'd change.
    Tora and Poppi α. While it is nice that they picked someone who has glasses/goggles, *Jigglypuff* is the last character I would've picked. I would've gone with either a Yellow or Orange Luigi instead which references the numerous time Luigi has been depicted to tinker with machines (and also matches Tora's fur and orveralls) or an orange/yellow Kirby which references both Kirby Planet Robobot and the not so well known fact that Kirby is a genius with machines (he literally pilots the Robobot Armors without struggling with the controls and several of the Air Rides in Kirby Air Ride are more machine-like rather than Star-like) while Poppi is represented by a Mii Brawler in the Maid outfit while wearing a Lacy Headband in both her and Tora's Spirit Battles.
    I'm not sure I'd keep the other fighters in Poppi α's Spirit Battle considering one of the represents a late game form for Poppi and have her be a Mii Fighter in the Maid outfit while wearing a Lacy Headband represents both the weird ideas Tora's family has and Poppi's second form QT. But if she had to be represented in her α form specifically I'd go with the Bionic Suit while keeping the Dixie Kong's Hat instead, the Chibi Robo Outfit just doesn't look right but if the Mii Gunner did have to be used then I'd used the same outfit combo from before. The Maid outfit is available for all of the Mii Fighters so it would still work. Not sure what to do about Poppi's final form though.

  • @hypotheticaltapeworm
    @hypotheticaltapeworm Před 2 lety

    I believe they didn't have a majority of Spirits in their defaults because of World of Light. Since it wouldn't technically make sense story-wise somehow. I guess it's to show that these are just copies of the original fighter, and not the original fighter themselves, so even if the character's original color pallette makes more sense for the Spirit they represent, they use an alt. Spirit Board battles and DLC Spirits don't abide by this rule since they don't take place under the context of Galeem and/or Dharkon controlling the Spirits.

  • @Lincolnium_
    @Lincolnium_ Před 2 lety

    Video idea: all mk8dx trick animations ranked, similar to the taunt rankings!

  • @yuriboobz
    @yuriboobz Před 2 lety

    It's a bit of a stretch but I think that the Sonic in the Shadow spirit is possibly meant to represent Maria? That would make it an even stranger choice, but it would explain the Light Blue alt

  • @CJ-ln5ov
    @CJ-ln5ov Před rokem

    I think the reason why they chose Peach’s Castle for Waluigi was because it’s an N64 stage, the system he debuted on.
    To be clear, I agree with your ideas wholeheartedly, I’m just tossing out a theory.

  • @djanyb7274
    @djanyb7274 Před 2 lety +1

    @Odyssey Central Could you do A Video Making EVERY Bendy And The Ink Machine Spirit Battle For Smash Ultimate (that Also Includes Boris And The Dark Survival Bendy In Nightmare Run And Bendy And The Dark Revival?)

  • @RyanDawson-qr6uf
    @RyanDawson-qr6uf Před měsícem

    The link in the Botw Zelda has the skyloft alt based off the old shirt at the start of botw I still think it makes more sense for his default outfit thi