Thanks for including the Dell! It’s interesting to see the mixed reactions to the Facecam, but I’m disappointed that it isn’t better. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you very much for the testing! I almost missed your last 4 videos because they didn't appear in my sub feed (I click on your channel by mistake and found 4 new videos, very surprised XD)
Seriously awesome video. No kidding, such a valuable review. Came here from your website, and really appreciate the text breakdown- mostly came here just to let you know you’re doing good work!
I have to admit that your channel and content are AMAZING. I just watched 40-50 videos and none of them answered my questions the way you did. I really loved the to-the-point curation and I'm subscribing right now.
Great video. I've really been looking at the Brio as an option lately with some gift cards I got. I like how you showed off the different modes and even how they looked in different formats, like the Yuy2, haven't seen that done across several other videos. Brio's really an impressive piece of hardware for its age. Just one question, since you mentioned OBS and I use that. You mentioned not playing with the sharpness slider a bit before settling for 170 in this video. Are your settings otherwise the same as from your indepth review of the Brio almost a year ago? Since whatever settings you used made that thing look CRISP and definitely wanna try them if I get the Brio myself.
Hello, I discovered your channel when I was looking for information that would let me know which webcam to buy, I really like the way you make videos in all aspects, very good job!
Brio looks amazing in 4K tweaked but once you drop it to 1080p 60fps which many streamers use, it loses so much detail vs the Facecam. The Elgato Facecam may not be the best looking but it is more geared towards streamers especially when you factor in that it actually saves your settings when using OBS. I have a Spedal webcam (1080p 60fps) and it only does 60fps if the right settings are met and sometimes that doesn't work and my custom settings for the Spedal webcam resets every time I exit OBS. This is why I feel the Facecam is more for me despite being blown away by the Brio's beautiful 4K quality.
Wow..great review. Thank you. I have the Brio and I use it for streaming on Twitch. I also have 2 Elgato Key Lights. I just can never get the video right. Can you help with settings. What are yours? Thank you.
Resolution 4K, 30 FPS. Format MJPEG. Exposure -6 or -7 depending on lighting. Sharpness: 128-170 White balance: Depends on lighting. Gain 0-28. Focus: 0.
In case of DELL Ultra 4k webcam: I have noticed that in HDR mode the picture quality goes down in comparison with HDR off (gets more cubics and looks low quality). I hav enoticed it on video here and personally testing it. Any explanation for it. Can it be improved?
Hi there!! I'm a new subscriber. I absolute LOVE your videos because they go into depth about these webcams I'm interested in buying!! I'm very interested in the Logitech Brio but I was concerned about two things so I thought I'd ask! For one thing, I want to use a webcam for content creation on CZcams and streaming on Twitch, would Brio be a good option for that? And if so, would it have terrible lag? I have read some reviews (not a lot) that have said the webcam had bad lag but I trust your opinion to be sure! My second question was where did you get both your Brio webcams from? I saw they were on Amazon, Best Buy, and the Logitech website but wasn't sure where to look. If you have the time, your reply would be super appreciated! ❤
Thanks, and sure. For the first question yes the Brio is a great option to get started. Most of the videos on this channel were made on the Brio and the better I got with settings, lighting, and framing the better I was able to make the videos. I used to stream on Twitch with the Brio also, but haven't streamed in a long time. As for the lag, it seems to depend on your computer. My desktop which is pretty strong (Ryzen 5, 3600 with an RX 5700) causes all webcams to lag by about 150 ms. Even just the C920. On my basically broken laptop (i5 6300U, GTX 960M), there's no delay at all. So basically it depends on your computer, but even if you have a bit of lag you can set an audio offset in OBS. I would just say the stronger your computer the better, because adding a slight audio delay is easy but if your computer struggles with 4K video, you can't use the Brio to its full potential. And I bought both of my Brios from Amazon. If you get it at Best Buy it might be called something like the Logitech 4K Pro Webcam or something - they keep rebranding the name.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews You are awesome!! This is amazing information. Thank you so much for sharing your own personal experience with both your desktop and your laptop with their specs!! That makes perfect sense that the lag would depend on the computer you have. I’m new to OBS and briefly heard about inserting a slight audio delay. That’s a super good idea! I’m not entirely sure if my laptop would or wouldn’t be compatible with the cam’s 4K even though it is a strong one. You’re absolutely right about the weird name change for Best Buy. 😂 Literally the one difference between the two that I saw were the MP. It was like 13 MP vs 8.5 on Amazon’s version. Anyways, thank you so much for your help. I was battling for hours on which webcam would be best to start with before upgrading to a DSLR in the future. Your videos helped me out more than anyone else! Along top your amazing in-depth reply! Thank you again!! 😄 I’ll try and shoot for the Brio!
Fantastic review. I have a brio and was going to add a Dell to do some testing and have an alternate cam view. I use a sony a6000 and cam link but I have lots of issues with OBS and it being recognized
I've never actually used a Cam Link partially for that reason (people having issues with it). Instead of buying another webcam, you might be interested in a more reliable capture card since you'll be spending around $150-200 anyway. I use the Elgato 4K 60 Pro with my Sony ZV-1.
Great review! I agree, I bought the Brio a week ago and it certainly does have a good picture, but having to (essentially) resinstall it every time after a reboot is SUCH a PITA! I wish the logitech software wasn't trash. :'(
Thanks man, I got the Brio. Do you record this test via OBS for this video? Wanna tweak but leave the settings so I don’t have to fiddle too much but I’m also considering doing some talking head style video where I’d absolutely wanna tweak the settings before hand, so it would be good to know how you setup for the Brio for this including the settings etc. I’ve also noticed a significant change in quality and compression based on which video chat/call program is used there are significant differences on Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, Skype and Zoom.
Yeah I use OBS. If you want unified performance in video conferencing apps, OBS is also the best choice. Adjust the settings there and then start OBS Virtual Camera. In Zoom or w/e, select OBS cam.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks a lot man, a video on this would be awesome and get more views I’m sure! Does it save the settings even if you reboot and do you always have to start OBS before the other software? I’ve heard some reviewers say Logitech doesn’t save the settings.
@@oworthington I wish, it's one of my worst performing videos (pretty much any time I do informational content it's like that). But here is one I made before czcams.com/video/lTiRUGlhDIc/video.html. The only problem with that video is the audio is about 150ms out of sync. That doesn't happen to most people and it doesn't seem to show up when using Virtual Camera. But if it does for you, then you can set a slight offset in OBS. czcams.com/video/sNzAH4gmvqw/video.html. And yeah unfortunately, the settings reset if you reboot or unplug the Brio. There are some suspect workarounds, but they all have shortcomings so I just make sure to tweak things in OBS if I've rebooted.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews wow. Great videos man. Best reviews on CZcams by far! I was also gonna ask about mics I know you’ve done some on mics but I’m looking at the “in shot” viewable USB condenser mic fifine t669 but also I have a “mic in” port and was considering a deity d4 mic or a rode (mini shotgun) not found any comparisons on this setup at all. People seem to go with “in shot” mics like a USB or a dedicated XLR OR the out of shot shotgun or a Lav. I’ve got a lav but for a quick meeting it’s too much effort to jump on a call AND setup a lav. Might be one to go with due to the work from home thing not going away for a long time.
@@oworthington Thanks. I have the most experience with USB mics personally. I used a cheap Takstar shotgun mic with my camcorder in an older video and it sounded okay, but I haven't experimented much. Sarah Nguyen did a full review of the D4 though that I liked. czcams.com/video/k6Xub9EUx_4/video.html. But anyway, the T669 is a great choice. I've used it in several videos. My suggestion if you are willing to spend a bit extra is getting the Samson Q2U and buying a mic arm separately. It's dynamic and has both USB and XLR inputs.
The Elgato Facecam seems in both videos like it's making the person stand out from the background. Other cams are flat, the Facecam I immediately id the person as sitting in front of the background. Wonder if that's the faceam itself or just a quirk of it's positioning or something.
Well the Facecam definitely doesn't have shallow depth of field, so it's not superior optics. I think there are two factors here. First, the overall sharpness is so low that the background is blurry by default. Second, since it's fixed focus anything outside of 12-47 inches will always look out of focus.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks the replying. I noticed a similar thing in the recent GoPro reviews - seemed to be doing some sort of processing that gave the video a distinct feeling of depth and 3d space rather than being flat like the older models. They named it the FaceCam...wonder if they do something extra to try to make the face stand out more, apart from the background. I'd defintely pay for a webcam that created a more human experience. But I'm also not sure if it's consistent or "just happens to look this way this time".
My settings just depend on the lighting situation at the time. Usually exposure is -6 or -7. Gain is between 0-15. White balance is manual and based on whatever light there is.
That was a phenomenal and authoritative comparison. I'm having trouble trusting some of the other CZcamsrs' reviews of the Elgato, so many of them say it's by far the best. I'm thinking they're getting kickbacks or something. Amazon reviews show the Brio has the higher percentage of 5 star reviews compared to the Elgato.
Yeah, every CZcams review I've seen of the Elgato Facecam is from someone who received the product for free. Some have specialized affiliate links from Elgato, but not all. Either way, the more positive their reviews are, the more free stuff they get.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews That makes sense! Elgato has a lot of products a content creator would want, not to mention the specialized affiliate links you mentioned. (It wouldn't be too hard for a person reviewing webcams to tweak the settings to make one camera look the best)
I like how your looking into different cameras forces me to look around at each one, thus making me better compare each one. Looks like I'll be going with the Brio.
Great review but I dont know man, I see that the facecam outperform on all but the white balance. Even in sharpness looks better and smoother too. Maybe is the video encoding or something but I was not sold on the Brio as I saw the Facecam dominating the whole time but maybe is the encoding or something that can't be seen on the video.
What type of screen are you watching on and what is your video resolution set to? My monitor is in 4K, so all the imperfections in sharpness are really clear.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks for the tip because I actually switched the monitor (not 4K, I have two ultra wide 1440p) and you are right the Brio is sharper @ 4K and the elgato looks grainy because of the high ISO. The only thing going for elgato is the 60fps making the video look smoother. Again thanks for the tip and sorry to bother.
@@nelsonjperez9319 It's all good. I asked because I try to view my videos on different monitors and my phone. On my phone (720p), the even the Razer Kiyo Pro looks amazing.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Hey I checked the Facecam and it is pretty much trash it's very blurry and the white balance been way off even trying to adjusted manually. It is so blurry that even the default settings has added had Sharpness +2 if we go to 0 it is totally blurry total trash. The 922x was wayyyyy better. Thanks for the review for now on I'll trust your reviews 100% no doubt.
Yes, but one thing you give little importance to is the fluidity of moving images. For me it is a very very important thing, even more than the colors sometimes or other things and I would say that the Elgato and the Logitech Streamcam are far better in this area. It's useless to have a nice image with the right colors and great sharpness when everything is jerky. Anyway great channel, subscribed.
Very much agree. The difference is so obvious, even in this test video, yet he never mentiones it. So weird! Personally, I love the sharp and fluid image of the Facecam. It goes really well next to game footage, since games are inherently also very sharp and fluid.
I go tthe streamcam for 100 euros (like 110 usd) and honestly, I feel like I have gotten my moneys worth more than upgrading to one of the more expensive ones. Thank you for this. I can now be happy with what I have got right now. I guess I will wait for a few years before going to another cam. Also please webcam manufactures, add in a bloody magenta/green slighter. Literally all of them have shifts to either side.
I bought the kiyo pro based on your recommendation and am VERY unhappy with it. it constantly loses its settings and from what I read on reddit this is a known issue since 2020. Also there is no software included to actually "use" the camera. They say you need to use OBS which from a dev perspective is fine but from a user perspective is atrocious.
This doesn't add up. Did you get the Kiyo or Kiyo Pro? The Kiyo Pro came out in February of 2021. And the Kiyo Pro immediately prompts you to install Razer Synapse as soon as you connect it.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I bought the pro. I'm talking to tech support about it but I'm very disappointed. All the synapse software does is allow you to control the camera. It DOESN"T provide the ability to actually make images. Using the windows "camera" software changes the settings dramatically so synapse then no longer maintains its old settings. As an experienced user not having the ability to actually take an image isn't a HUGE deal because we know about obs, xplit, etc.. for the average joe its a major issue. The worst thing is the fact that it won't retain it's settings. imo thats a show stopper. Just made a short "RAW" video showing the issues.. czcams.com/video/Mzba7MkB82w/video.html BTW, this isn't a bash on you. More of a , check this out.
@@TroyHallBear Ok, there are few things going on here that are related, but I'll cover each in a bullet point. - Saving images with native software. It's true that Razer Synapse doesn't actually record images or video. I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can understand not liking it. Logitech has Logi Capture which can record video, but it has a pretty bad default image filter and you can't control the exposure, gain, video format, and some resolution settings. Because I'm so used to OBS, and most people who stream on Twitch, CZcams, or other services use OBS I didn't think it would be problematic for anyone. Especially because it only takes a few minutes to set up. - Webcam forgetting settings when using Windows Camera App. One of the main reasons I never use the Windows camera app is for that reason. It (and most programs that get direct access to your webcam like Zoom, Teams, Skype) forcefully reverts your webcam into its fully automatic settings. I have a few videos talking about this but tl;dr it's not the webcam forgetting the settings. It's the windows camera app forcing them to default. This happens to the Brio, C920, and every other webcam I have. - Field of view and Synapse settings vs advanced settings. Specifically in your example, the video went from being zoomed in to wide with a fisheye effect. Here's what's going on: Synapse really can only do 2 things. First it can let you control the advanced settings like you showed. Those stick with the camera after you click apply and exit out of Synapse entirely. You have to close it from the task bar also to fully close it. That's not very useful since you can do that in OBS anyway but it's there. Secondly, it can control a couple Synapse specific settings which are HDR and field of view. By default with Synapse never opened or installed, the device will be on "narrow" and HDR off. If you change them or if they're changed for whatever reason, Synapse will enforce those settings as long as it's open or until you unplug and replug your device with Synapse closed. I don't find either of these settings worth changing either but that will help explain the last point. - Summary of what's happening. At 1:08 it shows the camera zoomed in (advanced setting) while the field of view is set to wide (Synapse specific setting). When you switched to the Windows camera app, it completely tossed the zoom and every other advanced setting and it's just left with the Synapse specific settings which are HDR on and wide FOV which causes the fisheye. When you go back to Synapse, it's still on the wide FOV with HDR on, but the advanced settings have been overwritten. OBS won't do this, but most other software will. If you still don't like the webcam, that's understandable but I just wanted to emphasize that the Windows camera app is causing the settings to revert, not the webcam forgetting. I've even changed my Kiyo Pro's advanced settings on my desktop and it kept the same settings even on my laptop and I've never installed Synapse to my laptop. It's flash memory. Also as a workaround for non-OBS software, I use OBS virtual camera. This lets you use the webcam with all your custom settings in Zoom, Windows camera app, or anything else without them getting erased or overwritten.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews great write up. As you stated, any streamer should find the cam very nice. OBS is almost a must have if your going to do anything like that. For me, in my training & review videos, its mandatory. I've never used obs virtual camera. I'll have to check it out. I hope our discussion helps others.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Are the colors also good without the HDR thing I have the c922 now for a week but want 1080p60 is Streamcam worth it or not
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Is 1080p 60fps worth it against 720p60fps and is it worth selling my C922 and buying a better Webcam. Not in terms of cost but performance wise
Really wanted Dell UltraSharp but after watching 5+ reviews ive seen same thing in every of them. Dell seems to give worse quality then Brio despite having worse specification outperforms Dell.
You can, here's a video from Think Media. czcams.com/video/_NjE28MUkuk/video.html Personally, I found using a phone as a webcam too much of a pain for my use case.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I’ve tried them all, they don’t work very well. They’re just laggy and the image quality isn’t good at all. Hoping that Apple’s new “continuity camera” with MacOS Ventura will be as good as they demoed at WWDC.
Thanks for the comparison. Instead of StreamCam you should have included Razer Kiyo Pro :) Yes I know it's here: czcams.com/video/AhQ_6P5_msA/video.html but it doesn't have Dell UltraSharp
If you click my channel name, you'll notice that there are several other uploads on this channel. One of those other uploads has a comparison to the Kiyo Pro.
Thank you, I ordered the Dell and it arrives Monday. I’m gonna send it back and get the Logictech Brio.
Wow, great review! Very straight to the point. I love the quad-screen comparisons you did. Thanks for the time and effort put into this video!
This is the best review and product comparison that I have ever seen on anything. Absolutely fantastic!
Exactly the comparisons I was looking for. Great vid, thanks!
Finally the comparison!!! Thanks a lot
you nailed it! Very good review. thank you. Must have taken so much time to do this.
Thanks for the detailed review and comparison!
such a clean review channel, straight to the point and the comparisons are just great.
Thanks for including the Dell! It’s interesting to see the mixed reactions to the Facecam, but I’m disappointed that it isn’t better. Thanks for the great video!
Bro, great work..
No bullshit, straight to the point!!
Thank you very much for the testing!
I almost missed your last 4 videos because they didn't appear in my sub feed (I click on your channel by mistake and found 4 new videos, very surprised XD)
Best review i have found , great work brother, thank you
Seriously awesome video. No kidding, such a valuable review. Came here from your website, and really appreciate the text breakdown- mostly came here just to let you know you’re doing good work!
Thanks for stopping by!
this is a great kind of video for comparisons, excellent work
Great overview! Thnx.
Thanks, very good review!
I have to admit that your channel and content are AMAZING. I just watched 40-50 videos and none of them answered my questions the way you did. I really loved the to-the-point curation and I'm subscribing right now.
Congrats! Loved your review😀
great comparison video!
Great video keep up the great work 👍
Great video. I've really been looking at the Brio as an option lately with some gift cards I got. I like how you showed off the different modes and even how they looked in different formats, like the Yuy2, haven't seen that done across several other videos. Brio's really an impressive piece of hardware for its age.
Just one question, since you mentioned OBS and I use that. You mentioned not playing with the sharpness slider a bit before settling for 170 in this video. Are your settings otherwise the same as from your indepth review of the Brio almost a year ago? Since whatever settings you used made that thing look CRISP and definitely wanna try them if I get the Brio myself.
Yeah, they're similar. It's really just exposure, white balance, and gain based on whatever the lighting scenario is.
Hello, I discovered your channel when I was looking for information that would let me know which webcam to buy, I really like the way you make videos in all aspects, very good job!
This review sealed the deal for me! Definitely purchasing the Logitech Brio ❤Thanks!
You are amazing ! All your reviews are performed comprehensively and completely. Thank you !
Brio looks amazing in 4K tweaked but once you drop it to 1080p 60fps which many streamers use, it loses so much detail vs the Facecam. The Elgato Facecam may not be the best looking but it is more geared towards streamers especially when you factor in that it actually saves your settings when using OBS. I have a Spedal webcam (1080p 60fps) and it only does 60fps if the right settings are met and sometimes that doesn't work and my custom settings for the Spedal webcam resets every time I exit OBS. This is why I feel the Facecam is more for me despite being blown away by the Brio's beautiful 4K quality.
I have the dell 4k and I stream using 4k res on camera. Maybe I'm wrong.
thanks for this. About to purchase one now.
the brio
Phenomenal video! Thank you.
You're a pro, man.
Love your reviews!
I'm getting the Brio tomorrow!!
Right on, good choice!
Thanks for these awesome videos. If I wanted to stream to Twitch using a webcam 1080p @ 60fps, which webcam would you recommend regardless of price?
Logitech Brio. I've tested ~15 webcams at this point and it's the one.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks a lot buddy!
Wow..great review. Thank you. I have the Brio and I use it for streaming on Twitch. I also have 2 Elgato Key Lights. I just can never get the video right. Can you help with settings. What are yours? Thank you.
Resolution 4K, 30 FPS. Format MJPEG.
Exposure -6 or -7 depending on lighting.
Sharpness: 128-170
White balance: Depends on lighting.
Gain 0-28.
Focus: 0.
In case of DELL Ultra 4k webcam: I have noticed that in HDR mode the picture quality goes down in comparison with HDR off (gets more cubics and looks low quality). I hav enoticed it on video here and personally testing it. Any explanation for it. Can it be improved?
Great Review~!
Hi there!! I'm a new subscriber. I absolute LOVE your videos because they go into depth about these webcams I'm interested in buying!! I'm very interested in the Logitech Brio but I was concerned about two things so I thought I'd ask! For one thing, I want to use a webcam for content creation on CZcams and streaming on Twitch, would Brio be a good option for that? And if so, would it have terrible lag? I have read some reviews (not a lot) that have said the webcam had bad lag but I trust your opinion to be sure! My second question was where did you get both your Brio webcams from? I saw they were on Amazon, Best Buy, and the Logitech website but wasn't sure where to look. If you have the time, your reply would be super appreciated! ❤
Thanks, and sure. For the first question yes the Brio is a great option to get started. Most of the videos on this channel were made on the Brio and the better I got with settings, lighting, and framing the better I was able to make the videos. I used to stream on Twitch with the Brio also, but haven't streamed in a long time.
As for the lag, it seems to depend on your computer. My desktop which is pretty strong (Ryzen 5, 3600 with an RX 5700) causes all webcams to lag by about 150 ms. Even just the C920. On my basically broken laptop (i5 6300U, GTX 960M), there's no delay at all. So basically it depends on your computer, but even if you have a bit of lag you can set an audio offset in OBS. I would just say the stronger your computer the better, because adding a slight audio delay is easy but if your computer struggles with 4K video, you can't use the Brio to its full potential.
And I bought both of my Brios from Amazon. If you get it at Best Buy it might be called something like the Logitech 4K Pro Webcam or something - they keep rebranding the name.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews You are awesome!! This is amazing information. Thank you so much for sharing your own personal experience with both your desktop and your laptop with their specs!! That makes perfect sense that the lag would depend on the computer you have. I’m new to OBS and briefly heard about inserting a slight audio delay. That’s a super good idea! I’m not entirely sure if my laptop would or wouldn’t be compatible with the cam’s 4K even though it is a strong one.
You’re absolutely right about the weird name change for Best Buy. 😂 Literally the one difference between the two that I saw were the MP. It was like 13 MP vs 8.5 on Amazon’s version.
Anyways, thank you so much for your help. I was battling for hours on which webcam would be best to start with before upgrading to a DSLR in the future. Your videos helped me out more than anyone else! Along top your amazing in-depth reply! Thank you again!! 😄 I’ll try and shoot for the Brio!
Thanks for the comparison video. Crazy how brio is still outperforming.
thank you
Can logitech brio 4k do 720 60 yuy2?
Fantastic review. I have a brio and was going to add a Dell to do some testing and have an alternate cam view. I use a sony a6000 and cam link but I have lots of issues with OBS and it being recognized
I've never actually used a Cam Link partially for that reason (people having issues with it). Instead of buying another webcam, you might be interested in a more reliable capture card since you'll be spending around $150-200 anyway. I use the Elgato 4K 60 Pro with my Sony ZV-1.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks for the advice. Never thought of using another cap card for cam but that’s a good investment
What about the pw513 now with exposure settings and stuff
I did an updated review of the PW513 with the new firmware. Still not a top 5 webcam imo.
Great review! I agree, I bought the Brio a week ago and it certainly does have a good picture, but having to (essentially) resinstall it every time after a reboot is SUCH a PITA! I wish the logitech software wasn't trash. :'(
Your review is really detailed, after watching many reviews I decided to get the Brio
Thanks man, I got the Brio.
Do you record this test via OBS for this video?
Wanna tweak but leave the settings so I don’t have to fiddle too much but I’m also considering doing some talking head style video where I’d absolutely wanna tweak the settings before hand, so it would be good to know how you setup for the Brio for this including the settings etc.
I’ve also noticed a significant change in quality and compression based on which video chat/call program is used there are significant differences on Google Meet, Microsoft Teams, Skype and Zoom.
Yeah I use OBS. If you want unified performance in video conferencing apps, OBS is also the best choice. Adjust the settings there and then start OBS Virtual Camera. In Zoom or w/e, select OBS cam.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks a lot man, a video on this would be awesome and get more views I’m sure! Does it save the settings even if you reboot and do you always have to start OBS before the other software? I’ve heard some reviewers say Logitech doesn’t save the settings.
@@oworthington I wish, it's one of my worst performing videos (pretty much any time I do informational content it's like that). But here is one I made before czcams.com/video/lTiRUGlhDIc/video.html.
The only problem with that video is the audio is about 150ms out of sync. That doesn't happen to most people and it doesn't seem to show up when using Virtual Camera. But if it does for you, then you can set a slight offset in OBS. czcams.com/video/sNzAH4gmvqw/video.html.
And yeah unfortunately, the settings reset if you reboot or unplug the Brio. There are some suspect workarounds, but they all have shortcomings so I just make sure to tweak things in OBS if I've rebooted.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews wow. Great videos man. Best reviews on CZcams by far!
I was also gonna ask about mics I know you’ve done some on mics but I’m looking at the “in shot” viewable USB condenser mic fifine t669 but also I have a “mic in” port and was considering a deity d4 mic or a rode (mini shotgun) not found any comparisons on this setup at all. People seem to go with “in shot” mics like a USB or a dedicated XLR OR the out of shot shotgun or a Lav. I’ve got a lav but for a quick meeting it’s too much effort to jump on a call AND setup a lav.
Might be one to go with due to the work from home thing not going away for a long time.
@@oworthington Thanks. I have the most experience with USB mics personally. I used a cheap Takstar shotgun mic with my camcorder in an older video and it sounded okay, but I haven't experimented much. Sarah Nguyen did a full review of the D4 though that I liked. czcams.com/video/k6Xub9EUx_4/video.html.
But anyway, the T669 is a great choice. I've used it in several videos. My suggestion if you are willing to spend a bit extra is getting the Samson Q2U and buying a mic arm separately. It's dynamic and has both USB and XLR inputs.
The Elgato Facecam seems in both videos like it's making the person stand out from the background. Other cams are flat, the Facecam I immediately id the person as sitting in front of the background.
Wonder if that's the faceam itself or just a quirk of it's positioning or something.
Well the Facecam definitely doesn't have shallow depth of field, so it's not superior optics.
I think there are two factors here. First, the overall sharpness is so low that the background is blurry by default.
Second, since it's fixed focus anything outside of 12-47 inches will always look out of focus.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Thanks the replying. I noticed a similar thing in the recent GoPro reviews - seemed to be doing some sort of processing that gave the video a distinct feeling of depth and 3d space rather than being flat like the older models.
They named it the FaceCam...wonder if they do something extra to try to make the face stand out more, apart from the background.
I'd defintely pay for a webcam that created a more human experience. But I'm also not sure if it's consistent or "just happens to look this way this time".
You don't perhaps have the settings that you used on the Brio would you?
My settings just depend on the lighting situation at the time. Usually exposure is -6 or -7. Gain is between 0-15. White balance is manual and based on whatever light there is.
That was a phenomenal and authoritative comparison. I'm having trouble trusting some of the other CZcamsrs' reviews of the Elgato, so many of them say it's by far the best. I'm thinking they're getting kickbacks or something. Amazon reviews show the Brio has the higher percentage of 5 star reviews compared to the Elgato.
Yeah, every CZcams review I've seen of the Elgato Facecam is from someone who received the product for free. Some have specialized affiliate links from Elgato, but not all. Either way, the more positive their reviews are, the more free stuff they get.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews That makes sense! Elgato has a lot of products a content creator would want, not to mention the specialized affiliate links you mentioned. (It wouldn't be too hard for a person reviewing webcams to tweak the settings to make one camera look the best)
Is there any difference between brio vs brio stream webcam?
nope
I like how your looking into different cameras forces me to look around at each one, thus making me better compare each one. Looks like I'll be going with the Brio.
Bought a brio last night on amazon, should be here today.
hey, how's your brio performing in 1080p 60fps
@@apratimsingh1306 I ended up getting a Sony ZV-1.
Great review but I dont know man, I see that the facecam outperform on all but the white balance. Even in sharpness looks better and smoother too. Maybe is the video encoding or something but I was not sold on the Brio as I saw the Facecam dominating the whole time but maybe is the encoding or something that can't be seen on the video.
What type of screen are you watching on and what is your video resolution set to? My monitor is in 4K, so all the imperfections in sharpness are really clear.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews thanks for the tip because I actually switched the monitor (not 4K, I have two ultra wide 1440p) and you are right the Brio is sharper @ 4K and the elgato looks grainy because of the high ISO. The only thing going for elgato is the 60fps making the video look smoother. Again thanks for the tip and sorry to bother.
@@nelsonjperez9319 It's all good. I asked because I try to view my videos on different monitors and my phone. On my phone (720p), the even the Razer Kiyo Pro looks amazing.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Hey I checked the Facecam and it is pretty much trash it's very blurry and the white balance been way off even trying to adjusted manually. It is so blurry that even the default settings has added had Sharpness +2 if we go to 0 it is totally blurry total trash. The 922x was wayyyyy better. Thanks for the review for now on I'll trust your reviews 100% no doubt.
Yes, but one thing you give little importance to is the fluidity of moving images. For me it is a very very important thing, even more than the colors sometimes or other things and I would say that the Elgato and the Logitech Streamcam are far better in this area. It's useless to have a nice image with the right colors and great sharpness when everything is jerky. Anyway great channel, subscribed.
Very much agree. The difference is so obvious, even in this test video, yet he never mentiones it. So weird!
Personally, I love the sharp and fluid image of the Facecam. It goes really well next to game footage, since games are inherently also very sharp and fluid.
Great review. I think Im gonna keep the Streamcam for now but I got my eye on the Facecam.
I am really surprised how streamcam are doing like BS in low light(auto), since it have very big sensor.
0:20 ... HOLY $H!T, that's SHARP!
I go tthe streamcam for 100 euros (like 110 usd) and honestly, I feel like I have gotten my moneys worth more than upgrading to one of the more expensive ones.
Thank you for this. I can now be happy with what I have got right now. I guess I will wait for a few years before going to another cam.
Also please webcam manufactures, add in a bloody magenta/green slighter. Literally all of them have shifts to either side.
Agreed. Interestingly, AVerMedia is the only company that has a tint slider but the colors are so busted on their PW513 anyway.
I bought the kiyo pro based on your recommendation and am VERY unhappy with it. it constantly loses its settings and from what I read on reddit this is a known issue since 2020. Also there is no software included to actually "use" the camera. They say you need to use OBS which from a dev perspective is fine but from a user perspective is atrocious.
This doesn't add up. Did you get the Kiyo or Kiyo Pro? The Kiyo Pro came out in February of 2021. And the Kiyo Pro immediately prompts you to install Razer Synapse as soon as you connect it.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I bought the pro. I'm talking to tech support about it but I'm very disappointed. All the synapse software does is allow you to control the camera. It DOESN"T provide the ability to actually make images. Using the windows "camera" software changes the settings dramatically so synapse then no longer maintains its old settings. As an experienced user not having the ability to actually take an image isn't a HUGE deal because we know about obs, xplit, etc.. for the average joe its a major issue.
The worst thing is the fact that it won't retain it's settings. imo thats a show stopper. Just made a short "RAW" video showing the issues.. czcams.com/video/Mzba7MkB82w/video.html
BTW, this isn't a bash on you. More of a , check this out.
@@TroyHallBear Ok, there are few things going on here that are related, but I'll cover each in a bullet point.
- Saving images with native software. It's true that Razer Synapse doesn't actually record images or video. I don't think that's a bad thing, but I can understand not liking it. Logitech has Logi Capture which can record video, but it has a pretty bad default image filter and you can't control the exposure, gain, video format, and some resolution settings. Because I'm so used to OBS, and most people who stream on Twitch, CZcams, or other services use OBS I didn't think it would be problematic for anyone. Especially because it only takes a few minutes to set up.
- Webcam forgetting settings when using Windows Camera App. One of the main reasons I never use the Windows camera app is for that reason. It (and most programs that get direct access to your webcam like Zoom, Teams, Skype) forcefully reverts your webcam into its fully automatic settings. I have a few videos talking about this but tl;dr it's not the webcam forgetting the settings. It's the windows camera app forcing them to default. This happens to the Brio, C920, and every other webcam I have.
- Field of view and Synapse settings vs advanced settings. Specifically in your example, the video went from being zoomed in to wide with a fisheye effect. Here's what's going on:
Synapse really can only do 2 things. First it can let you control the advanced settings like you showed. Those stick with the camera after you click apply and exit out of Synapse entirely. You have to close it from the task bar also to fully close it. That's not very useful since you can do that in OBS anyway but it's there.
Secondly, it can control a couple Synapse specific settings which are HDR and field of view. By default with Synapse never opened or installed, the device will be on "narrow" and HDR off. If you change them or if they're changed for whatever reason, Synapse will enforce those settings as long as it's open or until you unplug and replug your device with Synapse closed. I don't find either of these settings worth changing either but that will help explain the last point.
- Summary of what's happening. At 1:08 it shows the camera zoomed in (advanced setting) while the field of view is set to wide (Synapse specific setting). When you switched to the Windows camera app, it completely tossed the zoom and every other advanced setting and it's just left with the Synapse specific settings which are HDR on and wide FOV which causes the fisheye. When you go back to Synapse, it's still on the wide FOV with HDR on, but the advanced settings have been overwritten. OBS won't do this, but most other software will.
If you still don't like the webcam, that's understandable but I just wanted to emphasize that the Windows camera app is causing the settings to revert, not the webcam forgetting. I've even changed my Kiyo Pro's advanced settings on my desktop and it kept the same settings even on my laptop and I've never installed Synapse to my laptop. It's flash memory.
Also as a workaround for non-OBS software, I use OBS virtual camera. This lets you use the webcam with all your custom settings in Zoom, Windows camera app, or anything else without them getting erased or overwritten.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews great write up. As you stated, any streamer should find the cam very nice. OBS is almost a must have if your going to do anything like that. For me, in my training & review videos, its mandatory. I've never used obs virtual camera. I'll have to check it out. I hope our discussion helps others.
So should i buy one of these or the Razer Kiyo Pro
I'd get the Brio unless you really like the Kiyo Pro's colors and its super low light performance.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Are the colors also good without the HDR thing I have the c922 now for a week but want 1080p60 is Streamcam worth it or not
@@djangojansen7648 Colors are better without HDR. Streamcam is okay, but Brio is just better imo.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Is 1080p 60fps worth it against 720p60fps and is it worth selling my C922 and buying a better Webcam. Not in terms of cost but performance wise
@@djangojansen7648 Yeah, I wouldn't use 720p at all. 1080/60 minimum, but that's just me.
wow The Brio quality
Since I found the brio for much cheaper, I'll get it instead of the facecam which I wanted before (:
I don't understand how the big dell camera has poorer performance than my iPhone.
Facecam and Streamcam work smoothly with high frame rate in darkness (this video)
You can force all of them to be smooth in low light if you turn off auto-exposure.
Very disappointing that the elgato is so dull and blurry…but maybe that’s lighting?
Yeah, that's just how it looks. I have pretty much artificial daylight with how many lights I have available. It's not a very good webcam.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Ugh…so much hurt, and as a Corsair investor too, lol 🤬
Really wanted Dell UltraSharp but after watching 5+ reviews ive seen same thing in every of them. Dell seems to give worse quality then Brio despite having worse specification outperforms Dell.
To be honest, I am a little shocked that the Dell isn't complete garbage.
Our phones have better cameras than even the most expensive webcams…it’s too bad no one can figure out how to just use your phone as a webcam
You can, here's a video from Think Media. czcams.com/video/_NjE28MUkuk/video.html
Personally, I found using a phone as a webcam too much of a pain for my use case.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews I’ve tried them all, they don’t work very well. They’re just laggy and the image quality isn’t good at all. Hoping that Apple’s new “continuity camera” with MacOS Ventura will be as good as they demoed at WWDC.
Is it just me or do they all look similar
What resolution is the device you're watching on and what resolution is the video set to? At 4K on a 4K monitor, these all look radically different.
@@BadIntentStreamTechReviews Oh you're right when I watch on 2k it looks way different
Thanks for the comparison. Instead of StreamCam you should have included Razer Kiyo Pro :) Yes I know it's here: czcams.com/video/AhQ_6P5_msA/video.html but it doesn't have Dell UltraSharp
If you click my channel name, you'll notice that there are several other uploads on this channel. One of those other uploads has a comparison to the Kiyo Pro.
That Dell looks terrible.