Friendly Mongolia (1987) - Mongolia in late 1980s
Vložit
- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- A three-member team of the Films Division of the Government of India visited Mongolia during July 1986 to produce a documentary on the People's Republic of Mongolia.
Produced by the Government of India, Ministry of Information, Films Division.
#mongolia
#1980s
#history
How time was nice and quite when I was growing up. I won’t say everything was good, but we did mess up everything from 1990. I get so angry to look at today’s Ulaanbaatar, my home town 😔
You didn't miss anything mate, Soviet life wasn't a free life.
@@wesleyharris5332 today we are in the worst situation, believe me my friend.
@@wesleyharris5332 Who are you??
@@enkhzayazundui1063 communist uzel shig aimshigtai ym alga oo hu yu yrine ve
@@miratic би сонгоогүй энэ нийгмийг. Би хувийн experience, бодлоо хэлж байна.
Just before everything turn to shit. I was born in 88. For me, i never felt such good society in my life like this..
Abolish Capitalism!
@Tsolmon Buyntogtokh
Your answer is rooted in ignorance, the economical system, defines everything, look at it like this.
Capitalism is a road built with cobblestones, each section is built by different people, some parts are luxurious, flat and even, most however are cobbled together badly, but they all have one thing in common, you need to pay to walk on each section.
Socialism however is just one giant concrete road, its just okay to walk on, and okay to drive on, its built to last, its very flat, and its robust and straight, there is nothing fancy about it, but everyone can use it for free.
Socialism is, closest to democracy one can get, there is democracy in workplace, democracy in local government and central government. You vote for candidates, not for party, in work place, you vote for managers and changes like 7 hour workhours instead of 8 hour, maybe 3 shifts instead of 2, and many more.
Soviet Democracy was very complex, which is why I understand many struggle to comprehend and just call it dictatorship, to call USSR a dictatorship, is easy, its simple, most idiots understand simple, because their minds are simple, but in reality USSR was very large, complex nation. Democracy existed in all sectors, however nothing is perfect, Socialism is not Utopia, it has flaws, but less flaws than Capitalism.
Marx put it like this:
Economy 2.0 = Feudalism
Economy 1.5 = Mercantilism
Economy 3.0 = Capitalism
Economy 4.0 = Socialism
Economy 5.0 = Communism
Its a progression you understand? Nothing remains forever, humanity progress further, so does economy models.
@Tsolmon Buyntogtokh
Yes thats true but remember Marx lived in 19th century, Marx did not know Chinese had proto-Capitalism in 200AD - 400AD and developed feudalism shortly after way before Europe did, to Marx such research material was never available and Marx also assumed modern society spawned in Europe because at the time, Eurocentricism was very strong in intellectual circles.
Mongolia and USSR were dictatorships, thats true, they were dictatorship of the proletariat (working people)
But Swiss Direct Democracy is rooted in the fact that they still have parliament and to some degree their Democracy is no different from French or German, they still have parties that gain seats based on elections, and Switzerland has many issues today, and huge class gap, in Mongolia under Socialism, such class gaps barely existed, even CIA admitted Soviet Union have much smaller class gap than USA in secret documents from cold war.
@Tsolmon Buyntogtokh yes direct democracy is the only reasonable choice for a civilised society to advance but unfortunately.. you can be crushed, imprisoned or killed for such concepts even in western nations.
only switerzerland practices such a free government and then only partially. people have fought and died for this and its hard to achieve or impossible in most nations.
nations need no president and no masters.. they need the poeple to use their will to make decisions. it is in fact why switzerland .. a small resource poor nation has the highest living standards and incomes in the world but also has the lowest taxes of any developed nation.
You didn’t miss anything, actually you have it better if you work hard…this is capitalism. Back in 1987, Russians in Mongolia had their own school and own super market where you could get delicacy that was not available in ordinary Mongolian super market. Even simple things like butter and jam was not available!! So those who think Mongolians had it good during communist era are living in denial.
Thank you for making this documentary film about just before the collapse of communist regime of Mongolian socialist way of life in 1989 when I finished my high school. It's just brought me to that time and remind me of Mongolian life, culture, education, people, Ulaanbaatar capital city and the countryside. It was very well made and included almost everything in great details. The most of them quite accurate in terms of functioning the country itself. Nowadays, there aren't many factories anymore and we don't produce much and depends on imports from China and Russia which is sad.
From the documentary I could see the summer camps where I went many times and enjoyed myself as a child and made many friends.
As you can see that the country was self-sufficient in many ways producing everything in factories, farming and agriculture were spot on until we faced long recession.
We were literally content how things were in socialist era. Everything was working except democracy. However, now we can express ourselves freely without fear even though social and economic situations aren't in a good place due to corruptions unfortunately.
I didn't expect Indian film makers would come to our country and capture just before the important time of the Mongolian history. Thank you 👍
🇮🇳🤝🇲🇳
The Old Days Where Mongolia Was Also Powerful And Lost Their Power 😔
what? Mongolia leader wanted Russia to anex Mongolia
Life was so simple and peaceful back then
As long as you did as you were told.
@@shauncameron8390 at least communist mongolia's system was lenient and was not harsh than other communist countries (ex: North Korea)
Mongolia had a huge industry, even assembled computers in the 80s, Socialism achieves the most impressive feats, but today, look at it, Mongolia in 2022 is porno capital of Asia, it has no industry anymore and definitely no high tech industry, its become one of poorest countries in Asia, its birthrate collapsed, every year its population grow by almost 80 000 people under Socialism, by 1991 it grow almost by 100k, and in that time, Mongolian population was 2,2 million yet it produce so much stuff, its people highly educated, Mongolia was impressive, second oldest Socialist country in world at that time! Very mature, if Mongolia remained Socialist today, its population could have been 4,3 MILLION PEOPLE!! Maybe even 5 MILLION, imagine that growth in just under 30 years they double population. Even today Mongolia barely have over 3 million, its such a shame. It brings great sadness to me, we live in a dark age.
Mongolia was propped up by a false economy and was robbed by Soviet oligarchs after the collapse, blame the Soviet Union for its downfall
Yea agreed
And its life expectancy is just under 70.
Have to agree on that. It’s a shame.
Mongolia has 3.5million population! It reached the 3 million mark in 2015 Jan. By 2030 Mongolia will reach 4 million. Were there any great scientist or engineers from Mongolia back in the 70s and 80s?? No! Today Mongolia has many intelligent homegrown engineers who have moved to Silicon Valley and working for the best companies in the industry, and some have already created educational programs in Mongolia to create the next wave of engineers! Also look at sports, Mongolia has won Gold medal in Olympics, dominated the sumo wrestling for the past 20 years, and all this is an encouragement and motivation for the next wave. What did Mongolia achieve in the world during the 30s to 90s apart from sending an astronaut to space? No one knew Mongolia existed, and some people use to ask in the 90s wether Mongolians even wore clothes!
I Miss Communist Mongolia 😢
Энэ нэг муу Коммунист хулгайч нар байгаагүй байсан бол, Монгол улс чөлөөт зах зээлтэй хамаагүй хурдан хөгжих байсан.
My mom said 80s was beautiful.
Sure It is. You know.
looks better than modern mongolia
Thank you for this video. It's nice to see how was life under communism, which was better than capitalist life in many things. There was stability and care for the citizen.
Indian English is so beautifully enunciated
Thank you for calling Microsoft my name is dave.
Just wished that it wasn't ruined by Scammers and how actual companies outsourced workers to them. "looking at you Comcast"
Just want to live in 80s
Believe me, it's the same as today. Without internet.
Believe me, it's the same as today. Without internet.
Communist Mongolia may not have been perfect, but at least you were taken cared of, which is the most important thing
Here's hoping we can bring it back to speed soon, like it was before
thank you ❤ I m MONGOLIA.
N usgee bichechee
U mean im mongolian?
Thank you for the video. When this was filming, I was 1 year old. so nice to watch the socialist mongolia
Thank you for sharing! ❤💗💚🖐
As a Mongolian it is interesting to see what the Mongolia went through. Beautiful culture and hospitable people!
Баярлалаа!
It looks like dream for now a days mongolian child😢
1989 ond gaigui amidraltai baij
Highly detailed film about communist Mongolia.
Not communist
@@rain-x3o it was a USSR satellite state
@@jprefootball4363 but it was not ussr
@@StayBasedJesus do u know the meaning of satellite state?
Satellite state means annexed state or vassal state
Thanks for the good job
Obrigado por esse belo vídeo 🇲🇳
Well now I want to see a documentary with all the kids in this video lol those newborns should be 36 years old in 2023!
Back in 1989, the Stalinist party was still holding on to their Marxist-Leninist façade. A year later, the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Party abandoned Lenin and adopted bourgeois nationalism as their ideology. They hide their capitalist transformation under the cloak of social democracy. In 2010, the MPRP removed the name ''revolutionary'' and became the Mongolian People's Party, a pro-capitalist nationalist party.
Just like in Albania, Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Laos and even China.
@@SMGJohn Not really Laos, Vietnam and China.They are still communist.
@@jprefootball4363
So where is their command economy, and why do they still have accumulation of capital and private ownership of property?
Sounds an awfully a lot like CAPITALISM to me.
@@SMGJohn
Laos is a Chinese client state. Vietnam and China adopted capitalist reforms to spare themselves the fate of the USSR and its satellite states. Mongolia was fortunate enough to see the writing on the wall and changed course.
@@SMGJohn
Albania = among the top 10 poorest countries in Europe
Yugoslavia = when the USSR meets Libya
Vietnam and China = adopted capitalist reforms and were spared the fate of other communist countries
Laos = Chinese vassal state
In socialist Mongolia, Gengis Khan is conquered by you.
Mnai uls ene hwere hogjson bol ymr shn uls bh baiva
@Donnell OkaforThat is a Mongolian written in Latin and only can translated with Cyrillic
It says "If our country was destroyed, it would be a poor country"
@@semilyezhuregimbekov Saihan zalj baih shiv dee.
how time was nice and quiet when i was growing up, i won't say everything was good but we did mess up since 1990. I get so angry to look at today's ulaanbaatar, my home town
Lovely video❤🧡💛
Soviet system was children's paradise.
Могнголия в моей памяти добрая и верная
My mom grew up here ^^
It was actually "16 republic of USSR". everything were from Soviet Union
@dimonwarszawski3884 No, you're wrong.
@@bayarmalham9749 i am right
@@bayarmalham9749it’s a (well known) joke that Mongolia was the 16th republic of the USSR
16th republic of the USSR - that was Karelia-Finland
past is past. look forward
Oh this is my grand mam old time
Year was 1986
Not a good year for Ukraine. If you know what I mean.
@znaed znaed lol I taste metal 😂😂 holup😶
@@sirkermitthefirstoffrogeth9622 or Belarus
I'm becoming more enamored with the country Mongolia since watching a recent documentary (2022) of how it is now!
Can someone tell me the song at the beginning? I'm in love with it.
It's a famous song about Ulaanbaatar peformed by Merited Artist of the Mongolian People's Republic Dashtserengiin Sambuu.
@@t_tbiligoun1398 Thank you!
You should change your name, it does not fit the profile picture.
@@SMGJohnWhy should they?
@@chevrolet-poitiers9507
Because they did
I've always assumed they were part of the USSR
Энэ үед бүх зүйл сайхан харагдаж байна. Одоо үед зугаа цэнгэлээс өөр сайхан зүйл нэмэгдээгүй. Гэхдээ ирээдүй минь гэрэлтэй гэдэгт итгэж байна.
Ene baigal vnheer gaihaltai bn mash saihan medremj avla
what the title of this song? answered yes
0:20 deer garch bgaa iuildwer ymr uildver ve
Sublime
@27:20 Yup... Totally a coincidence 🤣
😅😂😂
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Who did Mongolia want to launch short to medium range missiles at? Seems like they wouldn't need those.
Chinese
It is amazing the lies that pass for a "documentary." Did the Mongolian people have thousands of years of history. The Mongolians did not exist on the steppes of Mongolia until the 13th century AD. There had always been nomadic people living on the steppes of Mongolia, but the nomadic people living on the steppes were culturally different. During the Han Dynasty, the Chinese people had a written language and documented the people of the Mongolian steppes as Xiong-Nu at about 200 BC. Like all nomadic people they did not have a written language. The Mongols adopted Buddhism and modified Sanskrit as their written language. It is also well documented by the Chinese that several independent Mongol tribes were united by Chinggis Khan into one Mongolian people. After their unification the Mongol horsemen went on a rampage, conquering most of East Asia, Middle East, and Eastern Europe (feudal Russia). The Mongols were known for their brutality and they were able to conquer the largest land empire in history. Because of succession and inheritance the Mongol Empire was never unified as the conquered regions were inherited and controlled by the sons of the Mongol Khans. It is amazing the distortions or lies presented by the Indian narrator. If anything it is the Mongols who dominated other people through conquest and demand for tribute. In fact the Russians bitterly recall the Mongol domination as "wearing the Tartar yoke." But the Russian Imperial Army of the Romanovs would eventually conquer Mongolia, and make the Mongolians "wear the Russian yoke." It is obvious that the Soviet Bolsheviks have effectively dominated and brainwashed the Mongol people into submission. Mongolia is a Bolshevik satellite state. The Russian language are on signs everywhere. Soviet buses are used for public transportation. The passenger cars on the roads are Russian. The Mongolian Army wear Red Army uniforms and march like Bolshevik Soldiers. The modern, industrialized weapons are clearly Soviet Red Army equipment. This so called documentary was filmed in 1986. Beginning in the late 1950s Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Hungary tried to gain independence from their Soviet overlord. Yet it seems that most Mongolians were content with Bolshevik mind control. Are the Mongolian people that easy to brainwash?
We see many modern conveniences at Ulaanbaatar, the capital of Mongolia. We see Mongolian students studying science, doing research, and operating industrial factories. We also see Mongolians living their traditional life herding animals, riding Bactrian Camels, and riding Mongolian Ponies. It seems all the science and modern conveniences are brought into Mongolia from Soviet Russia. The challenge for the Mongolians are the same for the people of the Indian Subcontinent and Mainland China. The advances created by the modern world are not just mental exercises to be practiced and graded in school. You have to truly change your society or you will remain poor and backwards.
I am amazed by some of the comments. Are people really that misinformed. It seems a lot people have lost the ability to think for themselves.
Exactly. They don't have an ancient history at all. Like u said from the 13th century onwards. Before genghis came they were just small tribes fighting each other
My family members live in Communist Mongolia 🇲🇳 until 1992 for its collapse to democracy
0:18 what is the songs?
czcams.com/video/-q-vOViVMWM/video.html
Not a single city wall in sight. Probly cuz they knocked them all down
@FoxWolfWorld Why would we need a city wall?
Goe baijde 😢😂
I was there a year before (1985) and I got fascinated by the people and by the land... but as much as authorities try to keep us away from the "ugly" sides, It was obvious, even for a teenager like I was at that time, that things were not so right. We were not allow to walk freely on the streets, They move us to different places on caravans protected by the police. According to them "for our security". Groups of little cute kids were always trying to evade the authorities to ask us for money. Those kids, some of them no older than 5-6 years old, were all dirty and ragged. They always asked for "Rubles". Later I noted how Mongolians were segregated in their own country. Russians have neighborhoods protected by guards on the blocked entrances. They have their own super-markets with all the products that you could not find on the city markets, and the currency on those places was the Ruble. Which made me understand why the kids asked for Rubles only, rejecting the Tughrik .
1986
Gomo nar uzuuleed
Хуц
@@uukaaboogiibutimmongolianc64 yajan
@@anxiousobject408 harin ti
I NEED A MONGOLIAN BADDIE IN MY LIFE I'M SICK OF IT I
@Donnell Okafor my guy this was 5 months ago pattern up I don’t even remember writing this
@Donnell Okafor I was 15 when I wrote the comment
Bro couldn't make it past the ~14 minute mark with all the little girls involved 💀
@@meatiest1989 bro you were down bad 💀
Interesting video, but it looks like it was made in one afternoon by an eight year with her mommy. 😂
And did I hear this right? SOOKBATOR???? Hahahahaha!!! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I think my brother caught me sookbating in my room when I was in high school.
My country was such a Soviet stooge that we are still experiencing the affects 30 years later.
blud if it wasn’t for the soviets you’d all be living in huts 😂
@@russiasvechenaya58 at the time of our independence India had the largest economy in Asia which was unscathed by the war. But through our socialist policies we squandered that advantage and isolated ourselves. So Soviet Union is the reason why we were dirt poor by 1990
@@dpfrmhell I thought you where Mongolian
@@russiasvechenaya58 This was made by the films division of Indian govt