How I got scammed out of $3000 buying Magic cards

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  • čas přidán 23. 11. 2021
  • Please read before viewing. I should have mentioned in the video that the light test should not be the only method used to verify the authenticity of cards. Cards should always be compared to cards from the same set/era. Many newer cards react differently to the light test, and appear to fail it even though they are authentic cards (many cards from Modern Horizons 2, for example). There are additional methods of authentication which can be used, several of which require a jewelers' loupe.
    Here is the follow up video to the $3k collection videos. In short, yes the collection was full of fake cards. Here I'll explain exactly how I got this collection and how I realized the cards were fake. If you'd like to view the videos of me initially going through this collection, you can see here:
    Part 1: • $3k MTG Random Buy Par...
    Part 2: • $3k MTG Random Buy Par...
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Komentáře • 445

  • @EdwintheMagicEngineer
    @EdwintheMagicEngineer Před 2 lety +388

    I'm very sorry for you. This is terrible to happen to anybody and exactly why I push for the community to push BACK against all counterfeits. Proxies are not counterfeits.... Proxies are obviously not real. Counterfeits try to appear real.

  • @ikkuvaljo
    @ikkuvaljo Před 2 lety +82

    If this guy played in GP's. You could probably look up participant lists and try finding their real social media and maybe recognize them.

  • @codelicious6590
    @codelicious6590 Před 2 lety +41

    Now that Ive gotten further in the video Im wondering, have you based your entire analysis and determined the fakes from the authentic cards using Only the light test? I certainly hope not, or you could definitely have either more real ones than you thought or more fake ones. The light test is NOT reliable as the only method of determining the authenticity of MTG cards!

  • @vonhousin4179
    @vonhousin4179 Před 2 lety +51

    This is why I always bring a loupe to any in person sale that I do. Just recently saved me from 3k on a fake mishras workshop. These fake card sellers always have stories about where they got the cards and how long theyve been playing and all that to try and legitimize themselves so that is also a red flag in of its self if they are trying too hard to make it seem real before or during the sale. I explicitly tell everyone before meetup that I will be bringing a loupe and doing multiple tests on the cards im picking up and some people still try to sell fakes to you and act dumb once you tell them the card is fake. Hell, they still try to legitimize the cards after telling them its fake, trying to say the inconsistencies must be printing errors lol. This is why you should never trust anybody until you can test the cards. Big lesson here is to buy a microscope or loupe and test all or most of any high value cards before proceeding. If they want you to bring cash then always leave it in the car hidden until you are sure. I usually tell them i do not bring cash before going and that we will go to the bank once everything checks out. And bring someone else if you can. If you cant then let people know where you are once you park and give them a timeframe of 10-20 minutes that if you do not call them in that amount of time, have them try to call you. If you do not answer then tell them beforehand to have police sent to the area of the sale. You can also just keep them on call with your phone in your pocket as well. its best to be safe as there are some crazy people out there who will do just about anything for a few grand and these tips will help you to buy with confidence.

  • @davisgwynn4295
    @davisgwynn4295 Před 2 lety +77

    This really sucks man. I remember getting scammed and stolen from in my early days as a kid first playing the game. Even people I used to go to FNM would regularly steal from my binders. I hate these people within the community, and that feeling of being deceived is awful. Took a while, a move, and a different LGS to get my confidence back. Sorry this happened to you man

  • @31Uriel
    @31Uriel Před rokem +1

    The brother with no magic experience was probably invented so that he doesn't need to answer specific questions.

  • @Krunschy
    @Krunschy Před 2 lety +82

    If it wasn't for the way too rare cards in there I even would've given them the benefit of the doubt and believed that it might've been them who got scammed when they originally acquired the cards. That just goes to show how well executed this scam was. Really can't blame anyone for falling for it.

  • @Kakerate2
    @Kakerate2 Před rokem +1

    can we mention how bad the ROI on a card is? Buy for 100%, sell for 50-60%. Tf lmao. I get you can sell for more online, or for store credit. Even the store credit deals are like 75%, which is pretty ehhhh. Fetches I bought in 2016 are the only thing that hasnt lost value. $15 back then, traded in for 75% store credit would need them to be worth $25 today for me to not have lost money, which they are papa bless. That is to say why invest $1000 when these creatures and spells are going to be powercrept out?

  • @JopeSane
    @JopeSane Před 2 lety

    Did you file a police report?

  • @Milkybetrayal
    @Milkybetrayal Před 2 lety +18

    You can always do a rip test. Real cards always have the same color glue, also getting a longer light can also show the same color glue without ripping it.

  • @jtnutty3917
    @jtnutty3917 Před 2 lety +33

    Couple tips if they havent been shared (i frequently purchase collections like this):

  • @dustin89clanton
    @dustin89clanton Před 2 lety +48

    The foil stamp on fakes being raised up is a good tip, sorry you got scammed, hopefully future deals go better man.

  • @Phantom8260
    @Phantom8260 Před 2 lety +11

    Tough break man. I think we've all been through something like this at this point. The $3k loss will sting for a while, but don't let it deter you!

  • @Gorilla_MTG
    @Gorilla_MTG Před 2 lety +3

    Bless your optimism at the end. This video broke my heart, you seem like such a good dude and I hate that this sort of thing goes on in our community. Hopefully this was something you were able to bounce back from and only made you more resilient.

  • @RossCampoli
    @RossCampoli Před 2 lety +80

    Really appreciate you sharing, Dave! This video probably hurt to make, but it’s an asset for the education of the honest magic players out there. Been enjoying lots of your videos lately! 👍 Happy new subscriber! 👍

  • @jeroenvaneekeren
    @jeroenvaneekeren Před 2 lety +68

    Thanks for sharing man. Wish you LOTS of luck on your next collection buy.

  • @digitalbauble
    @digitalbauble Před rokem

    Sorry to hear that happened bro. I just watched this after the 1st video. Thanks for sharing your experience to the community

  • @tonyontilt3522
    @tonyontilt3522 Před rokem +2

    Sorry for your loss Dave, thank you for the continued content. In my opinion you've flipped the bad carma from this jerk into good carma by making the community laugh & smile.

  • @katiegrayx3637
    @katiegrayx3637 Před 2 lety +14

    Really cool that you're able to look on the bright side on all the things you got that weren't fakes! Sucks that this happened to you >.<

  • @SamuelWinston
    @SamuelWinston Před 2 lety +1

    Nice of you to post. Sorry that happened to you but appreciate you spreading the word. Cheers