Heart Breakers: Walter Lure Johnny Thunders Punk NYC
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- čas přidán 7. 04. 2019
- Saw Walter Lure the other night and was super stoked to see a Heart Breaker live. As a teen I really got into the Dolls and by extension I started picking up JT records as well. I love Johnny’s solo output including the HB records. Funny though, I never realised that Walter was such a driving force in those HB days. His voice and guitar licks are such a integral part of the late 70’s sound and underground scene. JT is definitely a star but Lure, Nolan and Rath are right there putting down a blue print for a sound and image of 77 punk.
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By no way do I want encourage people to listen to them. I hate the watering down and selling of the music I loved growing up to eleven year old teens who have no clue what t-shirt or pin they are wearing. I just want to share with fellow fans from the past, present and future.
This video is just to make myself and my young self happy. I have no intention to make money off this. - Alf
#Walterlure #johnnythunders #heartbreakers
Absolutely - Walter never got the recognition he deserved. Let's face it the Heartbreakers are still overlooked.
Saw the Heartbreakers so many times, my feet were firmly planted in the cbgb Max's Kansas City scene from about 1977 thru 1980. Walter was so cool, he was in The Blessed for awhile, they were teenagers, we'd call him Father Walter and he'd call me and my friend Jersey Girls.
I can't tell you how many times the roadies would turn down Johnny's amp, he'd turn it back up and as soon as he turned his back they turned it right back down. I remember many times talking to Johnny and I'd stand on a step below him because I'm nearly 5'10". We also share the same birth date.
If I had a time machine I'd go right back to 1977.
LAMF ❤
Hail Walter lure. Rest in peace brother
Heartbreakers were great and excellent video here. So many early on never knew it was Walter on vocals and lead guitar on One Track Mind, All By Myself, Get Off The Phone, Junkie Business and a bunch more. Walter's Rent Party cd from the early '90's is also a classic!
BTW he also wrote all those songs + many more
@@peterarispe9789 That's right; Walter wrote, sang and was lead guitar on many of their best songs, but Johny got most of the attention. Good fans know the deal
Fantastic time.
Fantastic music.
I ❤ your enthusiasm
RIP Walter Lure
The heartbreakers had an influence on the way I used to dress haha , I loved the style they had
When I had left school I always used to wear my old striped school tie a la Walter Lure the amount of times I got refused alcohol from off licences and bars they obviously thought I was still at school even though I was 18+ and usually in a leather jacket with just a t shirt haha they were one of the coolest bands imo I actually tattooed LAMF on my knuckles when I was 17 a long long time ago
@Stephen Greenhorn very true about Richard Hell I was only 12 at the start of the punk thing in the UK but was heavily influenced by two older brothers. Also growing up with bands like T Rex Bowie Slade Sweet great times
@Stephen Greenhorn thanks for the kind comments btw
@Stephen Greenhorn you too mate
And the NY dolls influenced the way gg allin dressed in high school 😅 i saw it in a documentary
man, i love your channel. It's a shame it's not as well known. I grew up with The Heartbreakers, the New York Dolls, the Stooges, the Pistols and many more bands, and I think it's excellent that you talk about little known but important bands. my unconditional support from Argentina, greetings!
Hola Amigo, this is one of those young YT guys doesn't know anything about what was going on in those brilliant NYD and Heartbreakers 20 years - there's more to tell but it would fill a few days - I spent some hours sharing not legal substances in our van after one of his 2 gigs in 84 in Rotterdam 'Pandoras Box' Festival RnR
May they all
Rest in Powder
🍻💊🍻
Great video … loved the Heartbreakers the interaction and repartee between Johnny and Walter was great.. but I totally agree, his contribution to the heartbreakers was underrated… not just his playing and vocals but his songwriting too. R.I.P. boys, we’ll never see the like of them again. ❤❤❤❤❤
RIP Johnny and Waldo.
Don't fret, REAL fans knew about Waldo...
Shit man, we are getting old.. all the people that actually made it through that 70s/80s underground/punk scene are now dying off.. I really wish I could have caught Walter before he passed, none the less, happy everyone documented him while he was among us. Cheers
love forever.
Hey AlfieBlue , great post giving love to Walter. Really dig “All By Myself” too. I know what you meant about them being dangerous. On the studio version of “Chinese Rocks” there’s this lone guitar note in the first few bars that’s like the clarion of doom, and it’s perfect.
Dangerous for sure Rik. A gang of Switch blade drug offenders with cool fashion sense singing 50' s and 60's cheesy pop love songs at souped up speeds. LAMF - The influence is still being felt all these years later. Thanks!
@@alfieblue Wonderfully defined, The Heartbreakers bring us back the rock n roll that reminds of 50's dance parties and films about youth gangs from that period, where the band members play charming villains. This band, these people, this piece of history and art are treasure.
Dee Dee wrote Chinese rocks and Richard Hell helped him or something lol I heard the early version with Hell singing
@@johnnyeverest9756 billy rath who I think was from Boston was coolest looking bass player I've seen Boston was a tough place at one point too lol
What the Heartbreakers loved about England was that many drug-related things went in their favour: the heroin prevalent in New York at the time was the China White coming from the Golden Triangle of Vietnam, Laos and Thailand, which was cut to fuck and really weak, whereas the heroin in Europe (except the Mediterranean countries which strangely received the China White that travelled through the water routes) was potent Brown from Afghanistan, which was called “Syrian” on the Continent. When they came to London and scored, they all overdosed, as they weren’t used to such a strong smack. Plus, they could buy cough syrups whose main ingredient was Codeine, all over the counter without the need for a script, and tablets for flu and headaches with Paracetamol and Codeine. Then they would separate the Paracetamol from the Codeine with the chemical process called “sifting” (only water and a t-shirt required to carry it out), and drink the bitter Codeine collected. Plus, they could get registered on the National Health Service as heroin addicts, which entitled them to a script for daily doses Of Diacetylmorphine (aka “Hospital heroin”), and also receive Methadone from a script issued by their local General Practitioner. It was basically Junkie Heaven,and it was only homesickness and constant financial penury that made them go back to Noo Yawk....
Awesome Giorgio, thanks for the info!
Interesting info. Thanks Giorgio 😀
😁Maby item of smack man..depend of the person use for👌
Your story kind of reminds me of the movie American gangster with Denzel Washington...I grew up in NJ near the city we would go in because my dad is from NY and there were homeless in the middle of the sidewalk or passed out and my dad said just step over them
@@leahflower9924 ha, so what you wanted to bring them home with you?
Johnny thunders was the heartbreakers
TOTALLY AGREE.
Johnny Ramone didn't play leads, according to Walter Lure, in an interview on youtube. With Lure and Thunders together, they were an awesome band, a bizarre Lennon/McCartney of punk rock. Lure's alternate lyrics to Chinese Rocks, when they played live, put the song on a whole different level, just like Lure and Thunders were on a whole different level when they were on stage together.
Baby I was born too loose.
😂🤣😂
Met Walter in Los Angeles playing
There in 201??@ some club .....rip nice guy.lucky to chat to him
ok, stopped the vid, two things wrong so far...the 2nd album by the stooges is Fun House, the 3rd is Raw Power. and also, JT & The Heartbreakers flew to London FOR the anarchy tour, not just cos things, the offer was put foward by Malcom Mclaren and they accepted. If you search youtube, You'll find a lil piece of footage where David Johansen is interviewing JT outside (i think) CBGBs, wherein he says they are about to go on tour in London with some groups. he may mention the pistols, i cant remember.
Ok jungle. The video is not meant to be the definitive history of Lure, Thunders, Dolls, Heartbreakers or Iggy. It is something I put together, inspired by WL coming to my city to play a gig and me falling back in love with the Dolls and the Heartbreakers - Reminiscing of my teen years listening to some of the coolest music ever recorded in my opinion. Enjoy!. Alf
I agree mate many things are sadly wrong - but we old bones know it better - I met Johnny once and spent some time sharing not legal substances 😂 in 84... Nice story when they tried to play the Anarchy Tour - Waldo and Nick had to beg for some smack from Robert Plant coz nothings aviable on the streets
May they all
Rest in Powder
RnR
@@dalakerdaniel9240 thts classic, wild times i bet. Nick who? Kent? I didn't even know plant used lol...thought it was just jimmy page using in zep; but u dont kno my led zep as well as punkrock stuff
Johnny Thunders instead of Nick - this bloody G-Board 😂🤣😂
They were dangerous to themselves.
It wasn’t the “Sex Pistols energy tour.” It was the Anarchy Tour.
Johnny was also...the Lead Singer of the New York Dolls... ....
The first band Heartbreak ers...had to break up over Richard Hell...And so ....lost the great songs.
Walter was Jerry Nolan's ....choise...( So was Luigi )
The stole back the music to Love Cums in Spurts..made it into One Track Mind.
But Richard Hell...left a huge hole in what the band looked like ( the Richard Hell Heartbreak ers...were actually scarry - frightening )
Walter sings monotone , can't pen lyrics , and has a cornyness about him. And next Jerry quits. And Walter was written up in the British press ...and it goes to his head. ( A nothing little quote.)
And the record has the sound issue.
They get the sessions in the the studio...after they e been surviving on gigs... Johnny's voice is shot...shot. ( all ragged when he does intro to do you love me )
Other issue was Nolan disallowing ' So Alone' from the set.
So...Johnny realizes he can get rid of Walter...and in England all sorts of people come to his aid...and he adopts Henri. This is all going on over Laker flight hops to England .....one time he comes back and joins the Senders...he is getting on the stage in NY for photo ops. ...with other artists like Greg Meranka's. Fleshtones. Then also he
Is doing New Years Eve shows at the Yippee- run...Studio 10 ( they hand out free joints....)
With Arthur Kane... Phillieep ( Senders ) Tony Machine , Mugsy Spanner , others....
Walter of course , he uses for rent party's gigs......
Then he teams up with Wayne Kramer....and is hoping to be on an album with him...But to get paid...the go on serious cross country tour....( In a Winnabego ). ....and Johnny now has to keep up with Wayne....Johnny is doing stage jumping...like a insaine routine....getting chords in the air ...to Rambling Rose. night after night.
He was the coolest in the Senders. Cause he's a great side man.
He did so many gigs hoping across to England...he lived on the stage. And if let Water on with him.....Walter tried to upstage him. ( d u m b )
Wayne ...separated before he got Jimmy Miller....so......Walter is on Jimmy Miller.
And his wife left ...with kids.
Then he starts getting guys like big huge guy on bass & Luigi.....and brings Dobro on stage....
Never the same again.
Wait but David Johansen was the lead singer of the dolls are you saying thunders originally would've been? I thought hell was cool with heartbreakers I don't like television that much but hell and voidoids I like he sings cool, I'm your man is my favorite
@@leahflower9924 Yeah.........Rick Rivetts...once told ....me ; " l left when Johansen showed up.."
If you listen to ...the Hollywood hill .... Filming....Johnny says ; " Rick Rivetts...he got lazy "
" Johnny doesn't talk...." ( Jerry Nolan )
Trust me, Johnny played solos, Walter just getting in the last punch...
With u there bro
You resemble David Byrne, man.