Sidiki & Toumani Diabate (RTM)

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
  • Kora legend Sidiki Diabaté with his son Toumani recorded by Malian television for the programme "L'Artiste et sa Musique", presented and hosted by Zoumana Yoro Traoré.
    Sidiki explains the origins of the kora in Mandinka (or Malinké) music.
    Unfortunately the video is incomplete, and I don't have the end.
    Malheureusement le video n'est pas complêt, et je n'ai pas le fin.

Komentáře • 142

  • @01Minaba
    @01Minaba Před 5 lety +26

    On a tellement à apprendre dans cette Afrique qu'on aura pas le temps d'étudier, l’Amérique, le Japon, la Chine ou je ne sais quoi. Merci pour l'histoire grand père. Dors en paix !

  • @eddyc4603
    @eddyc4603 Před 4 lety +14

    Je ne comprends pas un mot mais j'ai l'impression d'avoir appris quelque chose.
    I don't understand a word but I feel I learned something.

    • @TheMoulsauce1
      @TheMoulsauce1 Před 3 lety +5

      He's telling the history of Kora. Where it cames from. Origins from Guinée Bissau, Gambia, etc...right before colonisation. The history of mandigue in general.

    • @eddyc4603
      @eddyc4603 Před 3 lety

      @@TheMoulsauce1 thanks. Do you also know... The tuning is slightly different here from most modern recordings in the conventional scale - or it just sounds different. I was wondering if in modern times koras were tuned to reflect "standard" occidental piano (or guitar, etc) tuning while this wasn't the case before? Of course it could also be due to VHS sound being inaccurate, hence my question.

  • @simbon5531
    @simbon5531 Před 8 lety +33

    Sidiki Diabaté fut le maître incontesté de la Kora en Afrique de l'Ouest. Merci d'avoir contribué de manière éloquente à l'histoire du Manden (Mandenka). Quel bonheur de vous écouter !

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 Před 3 lety +2

      Tu mets Batrou Sékou Kouyaté où ?

    • @SamDickey
      @SamDickey Před 3 lety +1

      @@niamakannidjinemakan6802 personnellement, je le mets au même niveau que Sidiki. Ce sont deux pionniers de la kora au Mali.

  • @aminatacisse9849
    @aminatacisse9849 Před 6 lety +12

    Oh! J'adore j'écoutes cette chanson chaque jour avant de dormir

  • @editionsafricana
    @editionsafricana Před měsícem +3

    Africa is unique. They just divided us to have their food. There is no borders. Nor Sénégal, nor guinea ,nor Mali.. there is just Africa

  • @ballatouba1489
    @ballatouba1489 Před rokem +5

    Awesome Jaliba 🇬🇲🤲🏾👑👑🇬🇲

  • @chancelekeufack1320
    @chancelekeufack1320 Před 4 lety +28

    77 generations of beauty in this family. Toumani's son is also named Sidiki Diabate and the only disappointment with him is that he is a genius but wasting precious time doing hip hop, which by the way, he is very good at but I would rather he plays kora full time

    • @tomerbarkay2449
      @tomerbarkay2449 Před 4 lety +2

      100% true

    • @SKY911
      @SKY911 Před 3 lety

      What’s wrong with hip hop?

    • @ballamoussakeita840
      @ballamoussakeita840 Před rokem

      True

    • @louisebarber2984
      @louisebarber2984 Před měsícem

      71 generations, which is still astounding. Hip Hop is a huge love of mine, and Toumani himself had wide tastes. But none of that detracts from how wonderful this is. I love to see more of the young Toumani with Sidiki Senior. RIEP dear souls.

  • @bamanasoyakoteba
    @bamanasoyakoteba Před 7 měsíci +1

    Oui
    oUI
    oui
    Merci le vieux
    Merci de nous avoir conté sans publicité, niarrogance l´histoire des ancetres
    l´histoire de la Cora
    Celle de Tiramankan et de la belle Nantcho auc cheveux en crinieres!

  • @bubasanneh2536
    @bubasanneh2536 Před 5 lety +5

    We need the man like you papa in gambia

  • @souleymanekamissoko9927
    @souleymanekamissoko9927 Před 4 lety +5

    paix à ton âme je confirme que le pont qui traverse le fleuve non loin de mon village natal Tambaga s'appelle "Tiramakanteguedan "

  • @ray-oo4hv
    @ray-oo4hv Před měsícem +1

    mes prieres pour que ton âme ainsi que celle de mon feu pere et tous nos defunts reposent en paix ... i m so sad

  • @IbrahimaMane-oq7jy
    @IbrahimaMane-oq7jy Před měsícem +1

    Paradis a tous nos aïeux Amine 🤲🏽❤️❤️

  • @daoudacoulibaly9669
    @daoudacoulibaly9669 Před 5 lety +3

    J'adore découvrir davantage l'histoire de mon Afrique merci infiniment au maître incontesté de la kora pour ses explications merci d'avoir existé paix à ton âme.

  • @compter809
    @compter809 Před 5 lety +4

    Sidike you are from Gambia we love you

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 Před 3 lety +5

      And Sidiki Diabaté also parents are from Mali, Kita. The epicenter of manding culture.

  • @diefagatambambdiefaga9040

    Un grand pretre de la cora dort en paix ton oeuvre t immortalisera a jamais

  • @bajunkung
    @bajunkung Před 7 lety +8

    base is in Gambia. i love this man

  • @fadis903
    @fadis903 Před měsícem +1

    Abaraka Jali...Manding was a great empire with a very rich history.

  • @silviasimoesdossantos3933

    Eu adoro o som desse Instrumento musical 😁😋😍😍😍😍😁😁😁

  • @Mouhamedtounkara09
    @Mouhamedtounkara09 Před 5 lety +3

    C'est Le Grand Sidiki BA

  • @Ilyfb_96
    @Ilyfb_96 Před rokem +3

    I never thought Sidiki looked like his dad but now that I see him young he really do😂

  • @fatimasylla4937
    @fatimasylla4937 Před 3 lety +2

    merci beaucoup c'est magnifique❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @maimounadiouf3035
    @maimounadiouf3035 Před 7 lety +4

    c'est ça l'histoire. c'est merveilleux vraiment
    j'adore

  • @sowsouleymane9956
    @sowsouleymane9956 Před 7 lety +7

    sa me fait drole de revoir toumami avec son pere grand depositaire de la culture africaine

  • @laminekonate5631
    @laminekonate5631 Před 5 lety +5

    Fier d'être mandingue

  • @ousmanediallo-ne6mf
    @ousmanediallo-ne6mf Před 9 lety +3

    Dors en paix benke Sidiki. vous etiez un grand lion!!!

    • @fatousonk4274
      @fatousonk4274 Před 7 lety

      ousmane diallo sonko sagnan corimbalou diabaté je vs envois un chèque et vide tout mon compte je reste en découvert wolaï je pense à mon pére

  • @kabamory3465
    @kabamory3465 Před 4 lety +2

    Le vrais Sidiki Diabate

  • @WCisse
    @WCisse Před 5 lety +3

    Bonjour et merci pour nous avoir faire revivre une partie de l'histoire de notre cher continent. Mais si vous avez l'émission en intégralité slvp met la en ligne.

  • @koralessons
    @koralessons Před 8 lety +6

    A masterpiece!

  • @mamadounjaay144
    @mamadounjaay144 Před rokem +1

    Repose en paix legend...

  • @amadoudiallo1437
    @amadoudiallo1437 Před 7 lety +3

    great historian family from MALI.

  • @khalifakamissoko2183
    @khalifakamissoko2183 Před 6 lety +2

    Super la suite sur tout histoire de nous kamissoko a kita

  • @kabamory3465
    @kabamory3465 Před 4 lety +3

    le grand père de sidiki diabate et son père toumani diabate à coté

  • @maimounadiouf3035
    @maimounadiouf3035 Před 7 lety

    Avoir la suite de cette vidéo serait fantastique

  • @mikenayl
    @mikenayl Před 2 lety +1

    Legends!

  • @dozonitramakha1470
    @dozonitramakha1470 Před 6 lety +1

    Traoré traamaraa !! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾

  • @williamwallassmith7031
    @williamwallassmith7031 Před 8 lety +1

    repose en paix Mr Sidicki

  • @khalifakamissoko2183
    @khalifakamissoko2183 Před 6 lety

    Merci beaucoup stp la suite

  • @adamamacamou1560
    @adamamacamou1560 Před 8 lety

    Trop trop trop bien je kiffe trop

  • @dickoabdourahmane1656
    @dickoabdourahmane1656 Před 8 lety +2

    paix à son âme

  • @modydembele3654
    @modydembele3654 Před 5 lety

    Beautiful story and rip

  • @jeanamadoundiaye9525
    @jeanamadoundiaye9525 Před 8 lety +2

    wollof ndiayè ! 5.46

  • @toumanisoumano7871
    @toumanisoumano7871 Před 8 lety +1

    paix éternelle pour mon père

  • @judiyanox34
    @judiyanox34 Před rokem

    Excellent

  • @boubadjaf1433
    @boubadjaf1433 Před 5 lety

    Une bonne histoire la suite

  • @wullywestwully9424
    @wullywestwully9424 Před 7 lety

    beautiful story

  • @mbianyorarrey4680
    @mbianyorarrey4680 Před 8 lety

    This is nice.

  • @Kobatchegny
    @Kobatchegny Před 6 lety

    RIP, father of Toumani, RIP.

  • @mohammadnasibzadeh2506
    @mohammadnasibzadeh2506 Před 5 měsíci

    best👍

  • @diarrasadio8201
    @diarrasadio8201 Před 9 lety

    magnifique

  • @bd4992
    @bd4992 Před 6 lety +11

    Il a dit que Kora est d'origine Guinée Bissau.

  • @jenyenkomone5852
    @jenyenkomone5852 Před 6 lety

    wow granpa so nice history

  • @amadoudiallo1437
    @amadoudiallo1437 Před 7 lety

    my love and respect

  • @tasilimydiaby43
    @tasilimydiaby43 Před 7 lety +3

    qui peut me donner le reste de cette vidéo s'il vous plai

  • @WCisse
    @WCisse Před 8 lety

    RIP in peace the Big.

  • @Abdoulie
    @Abdoulie Před rokem

    KORA

  • @boubacardiandiabate3868
    @boubacardiandiabate3868 Před 6 lety +2

    J'aime mandékalou

  • @sissokosekou8495
    @sissokosekou8495 Před 9 lety +1

    Dors en paix

  • @tasilimydiaby1215
    @tasilimydiaby1215 Před 5 lety

    la suite s'il vous plaît

  • @bajunkung
    @bajunkung Před 7 lety +5

    mandinka in Gambia

  • @bintouniang6458
    @bintouniang6458 Před 6 lety +1

    S'il vous plait le reste de cette histoire

  • @balloamer1809
    @balloamer1809 Před 8 lety

    repose en paix

  • @issadoukoure8909
    @issadoukoure8909 Před 8 lety

    le bon temps

  • @lacinetoure4901
    @lacinetoure4901 Před 6 lety

    la suite svp

  • @doucouremohamed5318
    @doucouremohamed5318 Před rokem

    Le reste de l'histoire svp

  • @oumarfoutanke4858
    @oumarfoutanke4858 Před 4 lety +1

    J'aurai bien voulu comprendre ce qu'il dit

  • @kanoutebakary5400
    @kanoutebakary5400 Před 8 lety

    pouvez vous rajouter le reste de cette émission

  • @mamadounjaay144
    @mamadounjaay144 Před rokem

    Je ne comprends rien de ce qu'il dit mais je le sens...

  • @laddiyoussoufkeita5896

    dors en paix

  • @diabasako1422
    @diabasako1422 Před 5 lety

    Bonjour, avez vous trouvé la suite?

  • @diarraberouge1799
    @diarraberouge1799 Před 7 lety

    oui ont foyer? ?? dé luî

  • @cheicksadiboukonate653
    @cheicksadiboukonate653 Před 6 lety +1

    if you undertand manika he said in the video in my village in kita a mandingo village what wrong with you all bamabara is spoken in the center of mali manding south

  • @tasilimydiaby43
    @tasilimydiaby43 Před 6 lety

    La souite s'il vous plait

  • @samuelezeh8392
    @samuelezeh8392 Před 7 lety +12

    He is of Gambian origin, he settled in mali .

    • @habnjie5342
      @habnjie5342 Před 7 lety +2

      Samuel Ezeh very true he originally from Gambia.

    • @sissokobobo7108
      @sissokobobo7108 Před 6 lety +1

      Samuel Ezeh
      Non ce pas origine du Gambie ce origine du Mali vient di kita la ba ce de mandenka village natal de sidiki diabibate ce de il s'appelle gallin si tu et à kita

    • @litchi9362
      @litchi9362 Před 6 lety +1

      You right Samuel! His Gambian originally and settled to mali and returned back home gambia ( bansang) where am born! Grandpa sidiki death in The Gambia and babading sisoko sent a airplane to take sidiki death body to barre to mali.
      Grandpa may your gentle soul continues resting in perfect peace.

    • @moussadiarra6347
      @moussadiarra6347 Před 6 lety +1

      fast and furious

    • @cheicksadiboukonate653
      @cheicksadiboukonate653 Před 6 lety +2

      no sidiki is from mali he is a mandingo of mali specialy from kita

  • @user-gd3sd7yq3r
    @user-gd3sd7yq3r Před měsícem

    Could anyone teach me, What language is it? I would like to learn this language and understand.

    • @DeversBeats
      @DeversBeats Před měsícem

      I’m from Mali and it’s the bambara language. It’s not really difficult to learn it

    • @user-lx7op7uv6k
      @user-lx7op7uv6k Před měsícem

      C'est langue malinké et non bambara

  • @Morrikunda
    @Morrikunda Před 6 lety +1

    ߞߐߣߌ߬!

  • @hamidouba5784
    @hamidouba5784 Před 8 lety +1

    C est tristes

  • @mamadoukeita2785
    @mamadoukeita2785 Před 6 lety

    Ce quelle année svp ?

  • @koudywane7253
    @koudywane7253 Před 5 lety

    Qui peut me traduire ça ?

  • @gabehcoud
    @gabehcoud Před 8 lety +2

    Is this the present toumani Diabate father?

    • @Hermes_bergermalinois
      @Hermes_bergermalinois Před 8 lety +1

      yes

    • @yayadiakite1195
      @yayadiakite1195 Před 5 lety

      This is his grandfather who he was name after,the actuel sidiki diabate father is the man next to him whose is playing whit has father

    • @yayadiakite1195
      @yayadiakite1195 Před 5 lety

      This is sidiki grand father ,he was name after him ,he ,s the senior sidiki is junior ,the man next to him is toumani diabate which is sidiki father

  • @alkalybangoura3023
    @alkalybangoura3023 Před 7 lety +2

    Dors bien Grand prêtre

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687

    Je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appellai avant conni?

    • @syllakai
      @syllakai Před 3 lety

      Le n’goni est cet instrument à 4 cordes que jouait Bazoumana CISSOKO du Mali (faudrait vérifier).
      La kora c’est ce qu’il joue à l’écran.

  • @almamysylla970
    @almamysylla970 Před 6 lety +3

    La kora c'est le kaabu et rien d'autre. La preuve : vous autres tilibonka ne savez pas la signification de kora.

    • @niamakannidjinemakan6802
      @niamakannidjinemakan6802 Před 3 lety +3

      😂😂😂 Il faut bien écouter pour comprendre. Koring bato c'est également le dialecte malinké de konkodougou Kénieba.
      Et il faut reconnaître également que présentement la symphonie du Kora du Mali est plus répandu. C'est plus doux. La mélodie du Kora de Kaabou est très chaud, prédestinait aux batailles alors celle du Mali soigne l'âme.
      Sidiki koroba a du apprendre beaucoup de Sékou Batrou Kouyaté de Kita, le maître de Mory Kanté de la Guinée Conakry et tant d'autres.

  • @compter809
    @compter809 Před 5 lety +1

    Kora Is from Gambia origin.

    • @dtoure4700
      @dtoure4700 Před 5 lety +1

      Cora came from Guinea Bissau not gambia

    • @youssoufsanogo1106
      @youssoufsanogo1106 Před 5 lety +1

      Kora is from Mande and Mande includes Gambia, Mali Guinea etc....so Relax

    • @compter809
      @compter809 Před 5 lety

      @@youssoufsanogo1106 sidike jaberteh learning the Kora in Gambia after finishing take the Kora to Mali so relax well

    • @youssoufsanogo1106
      @youssoufsanogo1106 Před 5 lety

      @@compter809 hello I am talking about Mande!!! Not countries from Mande divided by colonialism

  • @user-mz7uj2zu6n
    @user-mz7uj2zu6n Před 8 měsíci

    😅

  • @Bambabah
    @Bambabah Před 9 lety +1

    He speaks bambara with mandinka "accent", funny.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah Před 8 lety +2

      What I meant with "mandinka" is the language in Gambia/casamance/Guinea-Bissau; that language is definitely not the same as maninka/bambara/dioula of eastern Senegal, mali, Guinea...there's very little or no mutual intelligibility. Just because "mandinka" and "maninka" are confusing words and some westerners like to bunch all of them as 1 language doesn't actually make them so. On the other hand, probably the dialect continuum of Guinea/Mali etc can be considered a language, they have actual mutual intelligibility to a large degree as I understand it.

    • @oumouclby7989
      @oumouclby7989 Před 8 lety +1

      yepp Sidiki Diabaté was originally from Gambia :) Sidiki Diabate (born 1922 in Basang in Gambia)

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah Před 8 lety +1

      +OceanBreeze
      You seem to be reasoning from an ideological standpoint rather than facts.
      And the fact is, Mandinka which has now several different meanings [because of the Europeans], such as the name of the ethnicity as a whole or the one particular language spoken in Gambia/Casamance/Guinea-Bissau. I mean mandinka as the language and not the ethnicity. The language is many centuries old, mande people were emigrating from Manden (the "original" location around the upper Niger river) to different locations of the empire. Westward emigration is very, very old, I'm sure you've heard of Tiramagan, which the gentleman in this video is talking about. This is more than 700 years ago. There were no colonialism or any influence at all from Europe at this time, the language developed naturally, as one can imagine the area we're talking about is huge and the fact is there were non-Mande people already there.
      So it had all the ingredients to diverge from the central Mandekan (Maninka) and so it did in the aforementioned regions, even forming their own realm independent from Mali as soon as it collapsed (probably already practically existing before that). So this divergence of culture and language is far more deeply rooted than you realize. I suggest you read books on the matter if you don't believe me as your words here seem to be rather opinionated; you said yourself you didn't even know there were Manden in Gambia...so you aren't informed what obvious differences there are in language in between different macro language of the rest of Manden and for instance Gambia, which differs dialectically already within it's borders and not less so than compared to for instance Guinea-Bissau.
      I never said we are different ethnically which is what you seems to work about.
      There are no Wolofs in Guinea-Bissau or Casamance btw. And of course travelers can understand both languages, same as in any two different languages, you can learn both. It's eased to a great degree because of similar vocabulary and grammar. But they obviously aren't similar enough to be classifed as a single language. And this again has nothing to with Europeans.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah Před 8 lety

      +OceanBreeze
      Surnames doesn't necessarily has to do with anything at all, but often in Africa it suggests same or similar ethnicity rather than language. And again I never said Mandinka aren't of Manding ethnicity so I don't even know what you're talking about.
      They aren't different dialects. They are different languages.
      www.ethnologue.com/language/mnk
      Soninke are Mande speaking- not Mandekan (Dioula, Bambara, Maninka, Khassonke, Mandinka). Saying they too are of Manding ethnicity is like saying the Susu of Guinea and Mende of Sierra Leone are also of Manding ethnicity, in other words Germans, English, Dutch, Scandinavians and more are all of the same ethnicity, on the basis of them being Germanic language speakers. Similarly, All romance language speakers like French, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians are all of the same ethnicity because of their shared language family. And that's wildly missing the point of the (necessary) division of a language, a language group and language families. Also doesn't make any sense in popular speech.
      I know there are some Mande people in Mauretania yes, but they aren't Manding in neither ethnicity nor language. I'm not sure being part of an empire has anything to with it.
      It's not quite true, there are wolof villages in the north border but most of the Wolof Census has basis on the Serer people in and around the capital, those aren't actually Wolof but they very similar to wolof and being lumped together (partially on their own initiative). I never said Wolof are only found in Senegal either.
      Could you be more precise what I'm being ignorant on? Because what I'm saying - every study says the same - Mandinka of Gambia/Casamance/Guinea-Bissau is not the same language as the macro languages in Mali/Guinea. And arbitrary Mande people are definitely not part of the particular Manding ethnicity.

    • @Bambabah
      @Bambabah Před 8 lety +1

      +OceanBreeze
      If you could cite a single source of scientific work from a linguist or ethnologue the discussion would be much simpler. Instead your aunt is the basis of your arguments which makes me think it's you that is ignorant and not me. Your aunt does not reinforce your arguments more than I contradict it: I speak Mandinka fluently, it's my mother tongue and I barely understand any sentence by Manding Guineans or Malians. Certainly I understand more if they talk slower and with less accent but as far as everyday speech goes, it's easy to understand why these two languages aren't mutually intelligible.
      Speaking the same language or speaking similar "enough" languages are one piece of many for two peoples to be considered to be ethnically same. None of the Susu or Mende are other Mande people are considered to be of the same ethnicity of the Mandings of Kankan, Bamako etc because of the profound language differences AND many cultural differences as well. This is according to themselves as well as ethnologues and it's obvious why.
      Mandinka on the other hand already suggests cultural similarity with other mandings just in it's own ethnic definition. We call ourselves Mandingo. We call other Mandings in Mali/Guinea/Senegal for Mandingo (tilibo). But absolutely do not call the Soninke or other non-Manding people Mandingo. That's our own distinction and from what I know it's the same as in Guinea, they call us "Mandingo" or something equivalent. Given the similarity of the different languages, curiously similar culture practices (I was watching a Guinea theatre one day and noticed the minute long greetings and walking out with your guest after a visit and many other things we do exactly the same in Gambia) and above all same ethnic distinctions, one can consider them to share ethnicity. It's certainly no science where the "ethnic" border lies hence the importance of the involved people's own views of themselves and others.
      So I don't know where I'm "contradicitng" myself. The manding peoples are arguably of the same ethnicity, because if you ask them then that is what they will say; the same cannot be said of a Manding and a Soninke; or certainly not in Gambia (we make fun of their language in fact, fully knowing we share the same ancient heritage).
      Yes, you shouldn't reply when all of what you're saying comes from your hearth rather than from people that study these languages as their job, including mandings themselves - it's far from just "foreigners" that's studying African languages.
      Why would I learn N'ko when it's not my language? What use does it have? Certainly the Gambian, Casamance and Guinea-Bissau people/governments hasn't found a reason to actually use it. If you'd know more about N'ko and it's practices you'd know that already. It's only used in Guinea/Mali/Ivory-Coast etc. In other words, countries within the greater Manding dialect continuum. Not used by countries of former Gabu or even other Mande people like Susu, Soninke or Mende. So guess who is contradicting himself....
      PS: N'Ko has the same meaning only within the *Manding* languages and generally speaking, not other Mande languages.

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687

    Moi je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appelle en Guinée conni?,je savoir la différence entre kora et conni?

    • @NouhCoulibaly-gp5kq
      @NouhCoulibaly-gp5kq Před měsícem

      Y'a kora ,y'a conni,y'a kamaleconni.
      Connin est composé de quatre corde , kamaleconni a sixe corde .et ce que le vieux entraîne de jouer c'est ça qui le cora.

  • @MsHelene2009
    @MsHelene2009 Před 8 lety

    Histoires fictif et unutule

    • @assetoumatherson5810
      @assetoumatherson5810 Před 7 lety +6

      Aethiop Al-Nasara .LE ridicule ne tue point.Surtout, ce ridicule qu 'enfante l'abjecte ignorance.
      Ce que raconte notre feu pere est la vraie histoire

    • @india5011
      @india5011 Před 5 lety +1

      Great oral history, please post more of this great history of west Africa.

    • @syllakai
      @syllakai Před 3 lety +1

      Tradition orale ==> culture africaine monsieur !!! La transmission des connaissances se fait par les griots...

  • @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687
    @omarshyncsowenxunfe5687 Před 5 lety +1

    Je pense que c'est le kora qu'on appellai avant conni?

    • @dtoure4700
      @dtoure4700 Před 5 lety

      C'est choses differentes mon frere