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  • y'all i've had enough of these opinion videos
    btw i read all the nice words and suggestions you've given me, ily'all for that
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Komentáře • 454

  • @iselin9932
    @iselin9932 Před 2 lety +836

    If Kpop is mentally draining for y’all then y’all should get outside. It’s music😔

    • @iluvuforever
      @iluvuforever Před 2 lety +121

      FR!!!. When people say "kpop is so mentally draining" I just get confused, it's literally not safe to be that deep into a fandom to the point where it makes you tired, seriously, just enjoy the music.

    • @liuyangyang2587
      @liuyangyang2587 Před 2 lety +49

      fr go listen to some classical music, symphonies, piano/cello/violin sonatas, concertos, etudes, preludes, sonatinas, dances, etc

    • @hq6332
      @hq6332 Před rokem +50

      right like this is not corporate job that yall are getting exhausted or whatever bs, go touch some grass ffs 💀💀

    • @dd-579fletcherwillyd.9
      @dd-579fletcherwillyd.9 Před rokem +22

      This truly should be a certified "Touch Grass" moment
      Like, ok K-Pop and its stans can be Satan's worst nightmare, but it's always up to you to be sucked deep to it. Us fellow K-pop fans can only do so much to help y'all, touch and feel the grass outside bruvs

  • @wackymacky6507
    @wackymacky6507 Před 2 lety +519

    Art has always been a collaborative medium. Saying idols aren't artists bc they don't write their music is like saying actors aren't artists because they don't write their scripts. If they are involved in making art, they are artists.

    • @wackymacky6507
      @wackymacky6507 Před 2 lety +7

      @CZcamsr thank you! :)

    • @teamorevilover2863
      @teamorevilover2863 Před 2 lety +29

      Yeah I don't understand why idols who just sing have to be made fun of
      Anyone can have preference with idols or groups who participate in the creation of MV and song (just like I do with BTS), but to degrade other idols? Nah that's not cool at all

    • @livin_bangtan343
      @livin_bangtan343 Před 2 lety +1

      Actors are called artists 😳

    • @hikarricore_
      @hikarricore_ Před rokem +23

      @@livin_bangtan343 acting is a form of art

    • @rhazeannethajoc7340
      @rhazeannethajoc7340 Před rokem +6

      YES! This should be say louder

  • @suckmetaehyung69
    @suckmetaehyung69 Před 2 lety +551

    BTS just put out 3 English songs in a year making y all throwing up. More of you are collectively forgetting that BE is a 2020 album. It's not put out years ago wtf

    • @whereruhyyhyoonkook4673
      @whereruhyyhyoonkook4673 Před 2 lety +65

      no bcs frrrrrrrrr, they act like it didnt even exist

    • @camcam2686
      @camcam2686 Před 2 lety +78

      fr, they're also actin as if they NEVER released any full english songs before like waste it on me?? sweet night?? cmonnn

    • @namu4380
      @namu4380 Před 2 lety +1

      Ikr !

    • @butter8552
      @butter8552 Před 2 lety +16

      @@guhhhhhh100 be was quite a forgetful bts album and many ppl didn’t like it in general🙁

    • @butter8552
      @butter8552 Před 2 lety +1

      @@guhhhhhh100 true

  • @minleeha286
    @minleeha286 Před 2 lety +361

    Honestly, when I found out that most groups have comebacks 3-4 times a year I was so shocked, I used to think a comeback would only take place annually but I was wrong

    • @linapetrova7284
      @linapetrova7284 Před 2 lety +10

      Well the mvs and record of song usually takes just 2 weeks sooo

    • @ClaraGD
      @ClaraGD Před 2 lety +13

      @@linapetrova7284 yeah but then u have promotions and all the content they need to record

    • @user-me8ti1wy7j
      @user-me8ti1wy7j Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@user-fr8nx1ew6z💀

    • @user-fr8nx1ew6z
      @user-fr8nx1ew6z Před 9 měsíci

      @@user-me8ti1wy7j im a huge blink i have the lightstick whyd i say that 😔

  • @rujjushrestha4445
    @rujjushrestha4445 Před 2 lety +262

    My opinion on txt : big 3 privilege exists for a reason. They did not just pick a random group of boys and decide to debute them. I myself started stanning txt after their blue hour era even tho I'm an army from 2016. I liked them because their music is one of the most unique but in a pleasant way in 4th gen kpop group. So not stanning a group just because they are from the big 3 company is stupid and also tho their debut song got more recognition because of bts, its their own talent and effort that they have a fan base now and are popular.

    • @moonsailor9082
      @moonsailor9082 Před 2 lety +10

      Broo I have the same opinion!!!???? like litrely !!?and plus I'm also moa 💙

    • @hq6332
      @hq6332 Před rokem +18

      right like if they werent a good group in terms of music they wouldn't have been that popular, yea sure 1 or 2 comebacks but the groups which arent that good fall off really fast

    • @wo-lien6069
      @wo-lien6069 Před rokem +2

      @@hq6332 right

    • @Anika0308
      @Anika0308 Před rokem +6

      I really wanna bite people who keep on saying that TXT are leeches (saw one on Twitter, instantly blocked them)

    • @Zee_00001
      @Zee_00001 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Crown was a very impressive debut song...the choreo hello!!??

  • @nevermind2516
    @nevermind2516 Před 2 lety +413

    People saying that Kpop idols are not artist bcs they don’t produce their own songs is so wrong, like if dancing and singing isn’t art. Plus, how many big artist in the west do you think produce or write their own music? And when they do it, they have a lot of help from professionals, and they are still considered artist. Kpop idols are so overworked already, imagine if they have to also work on their songs too.
    (I know there’s some groups that do their music but don’t make it the standard, that is really hard, even more when you have to do a comeback every 6 months)

  • @hifromjames
    @hifromjames Před 2 lety +452

    Unpopular opinion : road to kingdom was ten times better than kingdom legendary war. The performances were so much better on road to kingdom and they were so creative.

    • @vanessarayfox
      @vanessarayfox Před 2 lety +82

      I agree and disagree. I think The Boyz never even came close to their RTK performances, however, I think Ateez’s performances were incredible.

    • @heuningfairyz8166
      @heuningfairyz8166 Před 2 lety +3

      Ikrrrr

    • @hifromjames
      @hifromjames Před 2 lety +57

      @@vanessarayfox I agree, ateez understood the assignment

    • @curemysin
      @curemysin Před 2 lety +37

      @@vanessarayfox yeah i think they mentioned that too. they said that during rtk they put so much effort into their performances which left them with barely any ideas for kingdom legendary war. they still ate tho!!! just cant compare to their iconic performances in rtk

    • @alexatly
      @alexatly Před 2 lety +30

      @@hifromjames right? ateez r so theatrical and i’m here for it!!

  • @cheri8832
    @cheri8832 Před 2 lety +168

    for no.7, i literally saw an army get cancelled on twitter yesterday for saying ‘i don’t think i like my universe’ that tweet blew up and they got hundreds of quotes saying ‘stop ruining the mood’ and ‘get out if you can’t appreciate our boys’ or ‘shut up with negativity’ like the tweet wasnt even bad?? they sounded nice about it too? i was like how are these people real… i checked a bunch of accounts in the quotes and they were all 20+ like what are these adults doing on kpop twitter arguing…. they all need to take step back from the screen

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +20

      must be the crazy ones

    • @joon9370
      @joon9370 Před 2 lety +5

      What was the need for announcing when u have 10k + followers
      And she straight up liked many antis comments

    • @jeongbread1712
      @jeongbread1712 Před 2 lety +14

      it's twt what do you expect lmao

    • @injilaansari28
      @injilaansari28 Před 2 lety +5

      I similar thing happened with me, my friend said I was a fake Army coz I said I don't really like Butter and chose TXT's lovesong over butter 🙃

    • @liuyangyang2587
      @liuyangyang2587 Před 2 lety +7

      @@joon9370 twitter is used to express ur thoughts. did she buy the followers? no. people willingly followed the person. i like to express my thoughts on twitter and some random ass pixels wont change my mind. no one can convince me shinee isnt the best of the best and ill be tweeting so all day

  • @yasqueen2353
    @yasqueen2353 Před 2 lety +175

    can you pls keep me anonymous but i think some kpop stans really need to realise that their idols are GROWN HUMAN BEINGS. stop embarassing urself by babying 25 yr olds. it just makes kpop stans look so cringey. Another thing I hate is praising idols for the bare minimum. Like duality. It isn't a thing. Everybody has the ability to smile, and then not smile. And don't say that they broke the beauty standard for something they were born with. Yes, you can admire them for being confident, but I bet nearly every idol would want to be born with one or more different feature. They aren't fking gods, so don't treat them like it.

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +3

      loll

    • @nova-in9oh
      @nova-in9oh Před 2 lety +49

      @@winterosy "jungkook my cute baby muffin bunny banana milk fluffy baby boy i love him so much" gtfo right now. they're giving very much fatherless child me thinks 😐👉🏾🚪

    • @tsunam.starlight
      @tsunam.starlight Před 2 lety +9

      Or when they literally pray to them, it’s really weird and disturbing

    • @butter8552
      @butter8552 Před 2 lety +8

      u just made me smile
      go off QUEEN

    • @balaramoppa4482
      @balaramoppa4482 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nova-in9oh fr like i wanna dip him inside my stomach acid and place him inside gulliver's dwarf world's dollhouse, that'll be so kawaii 🥺 (wait yes i am a jungkook stan)

  • @anagabileal
    @anagabileal Před 2 lety +195

    About bts’ english singles, as an army for years, and bts being my ults: on an interview some time ago, they said they don’t intend to make more english songs and don’t care for what the company thinks about it (try to search for it, you’ll find for sure), and being completely honest, I got pretty happy with that information because, for me, even if butter is still a whole ass bop, ptd and dynamite aged really badly. When bts works with their own language, or maybe even in japanese, they produce and write their songs, and they always do AMAZING at it, they can show why they are true artists and why they are so big and deserve all they have, something that almost didn’t happen with the english singles.
    So, in conclusion: I love butter and don’t like ptd and dynamite as much as before, and I’m happy they don’t want to sing in english anymore because their korean and japanese songs shows more of their potencial, talent and artistry

    • @anagabileal
      @anagabileal Před 2 lety +5

      @Anushka Maurya that’s exactly my point. ptd and dynamite wasn’t that good because the boys didn’t participate of any part of the production, unlike butter, that had namjoon as a co-writer, that’s why butter is the best one, bts’ songs are better when they do it themselves

    • @junadotwav
      @junadotwav Před 2 lety +4

      I wholeheartedly agree with you, bts songs, or kpop songs in general, have this beautiful untouched meaning in korean or japanese and I feel like english can't replicate that. And they're right, that music really did save me at my darkest times.

    • @miagarcia_
      @miagarcia_ Před 2 lety +3

      Remember Jungkook and RM didn't liked the idea of singing in English, it was Hybe who convinced them to release dynamite as an English Single.

    • @junadotwav
      @junadotwav Před 2 lety +1

      @@miagarcia_ yes ofc that's true

  • @ykthaa
    @ykthaa Před 2 lety +210

    Opinion: twice’s discography(bsides mostly) is quite under appreciated outside the fandom(once)

    • @jisooland3601
      @jisooland3601 Před 2 lety +13

      disagree. twice is the most liked gg along red velvet in the whole kpop community. literally no one disrespects them loll

    • @ykthaa
      @ykthaa Před 2 lety +17

      @@jisooland3601 I’m not talking about them as a group but their discography( bsides etc) wise

    • @jisooland3601
      @jisooland3601 Před 2 lety +26

      @@ykthaa maybe their bsides. and yes for songwriting. but apart from that no they are not underappreciated in terms of music.

    • @ykthaa
      @ykthaa Před 2 lety +7

      @@jisooland3601 the main way I thought of expressing my opinion was about their music outside the title tracks, yeah maybe some bsides and also famous but comparing to other popular groups like red velvet and seventeen , I just thought that twice’s bsides aren’t that appreciated. Maybe not all people can like the music but it terms of versatility, i think they are very versatile too and that members also a participate in the songwriting.

    • @jisooland3601
      @jisooland3601 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ykthaa yes perhaps a lot of bsides aren't appreciated but..it's probably because they have -a lotttttt- of songs. but you definitely see recent bsides from taste of love, feel special and fancy get lots of love. i just think it's mainly their older music/japanese releases. the amount of releases can be overwhelming at some point of time but with the songwriting part i definitely agree. they just aren't credited enough. like hello do you see miss dahyun and jihyo's songwriting skills? on this topic, mera made a video. it was a nice watch.

  • @subtitles6249
    @subtitles6249 Před 2 lety +87

    This is just my opinion for me every idol no need to produce their own song cuz they literally join in music industry to sing and show their talents by dancing singing and rapping.

  • @jeongbread1712
    @jeongbread1712 Před 2 lety +74

    9:04
    it's not just byul, there's a ton of other artists who contribute to the lyricsism, skz's 3racha and soyeon for example.

  • @chongyingxuan2577
    @chongyingxuan2577 Před 2 lety +57

    I agree with cheese gromit and your example of twice! LITERALLY, it’s happening right now. twice literally just gave us a whole ass English comeback (The Feels) and like a week later they told us that they’re releasing a BRAND NEW album (o+t=

    • @moon-qh7fc
      @moon-qh7fc Před 2 lety

      3rd full album is coming after a month 👍🏻
      Twice had even more comebacks than this 9 i guess 💀

    • @momoringaling136
      @momoringaling136 Před 2 lety +6

      and i hate when they complain about twice being overworked, then 1 second later they go "OmggG tHIs ShOuLd HavE HaD AN mvvV"? like do you want them to be overworked or not?

    • @joakimaappiah-kubi682
      @joakimaappiah-kubi682 Před 2 lety +2

      Ikr I can't imagine how hard it is for them and they already have such a large discography

  • @hwatropy5677
    @hwatropy5677 Před 2 lety +125

    7:22 + 8:36 if you want to know more artists who have consistently great and meaningful lyrics, day6 would be a great pick. they're 70% self written and composed (with the help of some producers) since debut and all of their songs have been written by at least one member. they cover all sorts of life topics: being lovesick, heartbroken (sad), heartbroken (mad), lost, alone (and happy), alone (and desperate), grieving, longing, healing, breaking down and re-building yourself again. these are just some of the topics, but there are many more, i advice anyone who prioritizes lyrics in kpop to look into them!

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +11

      ^

    • @liuyangyang2587
      @liuyangyang2587 Před 2 lety +2

      and shinee. tho they do have songs ab bieng loenly, i think they execute it well. they have songs about a lot of things. now they have songs and choreos about jonghyun, jonghyun made songs about what he actually felt as a human being with mental struggles. not only that but also has lyrics that give us a glimpse of his romantic/intimate side. they have songs that they wrote w fans in their minds, toxic love, celebratory songs, furry songs, being the best, etc

    • @donatkentang7174
      @donatkentang7174 Před 2 lety

      i agree!! this comment is from months ago but i just want to say that day6's songs are so good... their songs can range from really mad (upbeat, rock-ish) to really sad (calm, relaxing) AND THEIR VOCALS ARE REALLY GOOD... this is coming from a non-stan

    • @yeetidk285
      @yeetidk285 Před rokem +1

      I would like to add TXT. They not only participate in the production of their songs, but their music also has a deep message if analyzed thoroughly. They demonstrate the growth of a person, which sort of represents the gen Z (mostly teenagers). It's almost like metamorphosis.

  • @erisazeqiri
    @erisazeqiri Před 2 lety +139

    About the comment for HYBE, i wouldn't call myself a company fan, but you have got to give credit when it's due. While I 100% agree companies don't give the slightest fuck about fans, including HYBE, HYBE cares about their artists. They want their artists to feel free to enjoy being an artist and experiment while they can. I have yet to see "rookie" groups from the big companies to write their own stuff and try to meddle in their own artistry. Hybe has fucked up in places, but they've also done great in other places so it's only fair we point out both sides.

    • @youreirritating9654
      @youreirritating9654 Před 2 lety +12

      the only gripe i have with hybe is the way they handle the groups they acquired from the acquisition (e.g. gfriend, svt) they changed a lot on how these groups are being promoted and im honestly surprised that all of svt renewed their contracts and didnt pull a gfriend

    • @liliesangel
      @liliesangel Před 2 lety +15

      @@youreirritating9654 in the brieffing with the community of that year, hybe explained how all this acquire stuff work, they give money, the control of the groups are still under pledis/source music

    • @hq6332
      @hq6332 Před rokem +3

      @@youreirritating9654 i mean hybe isnt to be blamed here but the company the group is actually under deals with all their comebacks and stuff, idk why everyone just calls out hybe when something fishy happens and not the company

    • @supersucks
      @supersucks Před rokem +2

      You said, “I have yet to see "rookie" groups from the big companies to write their own stuff and try to meddle in their own artistry. Other than HYBE” well I’m sorry to burst that bubble but JYPE & Stray Kids has been doing that since 2017. JYP literally made the leader draw their own logo and make their own tag line, and they still produce/write their own songs up to this date. It’s crazy to me how fans think HYBE do this great thing to their artists when they’re literally just like any other company in the industry.

    • @Slayyy19
      @Slayyy19 Před rokem +2

      Wdym you haven’t seen any more other companies rookies writing? It’s literally yg with almost every group under them including treasure and JYPE with stray kids, Starship with IVE and SME with Aespa also CUBE with gidle (Soyeon and sometimes Yuqi). You clearly haven’t searched for long.

  • @ribisabu4994
    @ribisabu4994 Před 2 lety +47

    My unpopular opinion: im not a 2nd gen stan.. but i gotta say some 2nd gen mvs are good i mean the mvs of blockb , bap etc.. i just like when they are telling it doesn't have to be any theory any story can be it is so interesting to watch. Mvs nowadays are so boring it all just shows some visuals and sets (there are exceptions too) i just wish there would be more story telling mvs

  • @jeongbread1712
    @jeongbread1712 Před 2 lety +72

    10:51
    'twerking twerking when I buy the things I like' 'dolla billssss dollaaa billlss'
    you cannot defend these lyrics in any way, I know not every song has to have meaning and I agree that money is catchy but please fire whoever wrote these lyrics for our girl Lisa. 😭

    • @del6955
      @del6955 Před 2 lety +2

      She chose that song herself

    • @axldavis5733
      @axldavis5733 Před 2 lety +5

      What do you expect for having a title “MONEY” so its obviously about money. So don’t expect something that is so meaningful

  • @AZ-ns2df
    @AZ-ns2df Před 2 lety +28

    My opinion: jungkook is the best performer but Jhope dances the best in bts

    • @somea6706
      @somea6706 Před 2 lety +8

      jhope being the dancer should be common knowledge by now considering its been years since they've been calling him out as the best dancer.

  • @raeven4336
    @raeven4336 Před 2 lety +15

    It’s clear that whoever said all boy groups sounds the same haven’t even tried to listen to smaller groups.

    • @bluedream4356
      @bluedream4356 Před 2 lety +3

      ✋🏼 totally agree with that. Small groups like wei, mcnd, epex, e-last... They're songs are soooo good and kinda different too..!

    • @raeven4336
      @raeven4336 Před 2 lety +7

      @@bluedream4356 Yes, I was also thinking groups like LUCY, The rose, VeriVery, Golden Child etc.
      There are so many groups and thinking all boy groups sounds like BTS, Stray Kids, SHINee, NCT and EXO is just ignorant.
      Like how all girl groups doesn’t sound like BLACKPINK, TWICE or Red Velvet.
      Edit: I hope people will be more open to smaller groups soon

  • @ananyadesh925
    @ananyadesh925 Před rokem +9

    this is why i stan svt :) most peaceful fandom ever who know their line. i would suggest stanning svt if you want to get away from the toxicity of kpop. even if you dont wanna stan, just watch their gose ep to relieve stress and to just laugh. svt has the least controversies or dramas and you just cannot feel stressed if you see them (their fan or not). the main vocalists of the grp are in top male vocalists in kpop.even other members who are not vocalists in the grp can singlike a main vocalist of some other grp. their friendship is sooo genuine you can literally feel it through the screen. biggest proof is that they show skinship even off camera and they literally renewed their contract even before their contract ends. the variety of concept we got in 2022 pretty much answers how they keep their comebacks exciting. most of the carats are chill but that doesnt mean we would tolerate shit abt our idols. i wouldnt hesitate for a sec to call them artists, they have the passion for music, dance, overall art and it really shows. it really angers me how so many times they are overlooked but i kinda got used to it now. honestly, being in the industry for 7 years and not being involved in controversies explains a lot abt their awareness. svt literally saved their company and stood up on their feet with their own hardwork. they were recognised bcoz of their music. they are a comfort place for me.

  • @Nicholi86
    @Nicholi86 Před 2 lety +84

    #14 bothers me cause your literally blaming groups like TXT and Aespa for something they can't control. And ironically one is hated for it and the other is praised. This makes it even weirder to me. Like TXT get so much flak for accepting their privilege and yet everyone still says to this day that their fame is because of BTS and BH. Yet these boys put out 3 cbs a year (both Korean and Japanese), are constantly filming content, participating more in their own music, constantly showing their growth and are slowly but steadily making their way. Then there is Aespa with the SM privilege but they are clearly skilled and talented and work hard. How is it their own fault that stans will support them?
    We all know what these companies are capable of based on the groups they produce. They are big because their groups are popular and any new group they have is created to build on what is already there. TXT and Aespa's fame is clearly showing this.
    For Bahi, I agree with you. This is a set up and she will never catch a break because she is a Huening. It's unfortunate but she is at least trying on her own. She entered GP999 and she at least showed me that she is talented with room to grow. I think debuting will be good for her personally as she wouldn't gain any more if she remains as she is without a company.

    • @momoringaling136
      @momoringaling136 Před 2 lety +19

      also, privilege is a good thing. why is it suddenly an insult? oh, because kpop stans love to be oppressed. (cough cough, jisoo stans)

    • @teamorevilover2863
      @teamorevilover2863 Před 2 lety +2

      TxT is privilege bc of BTS, but they also have come to make their own image (I literally don't see any similarities between these two brother groups) and now they deserve to be praised for their own hardwork!

  • @nova-in9oh
    @nova-in9oh Před 2 lety +12

    i've literally seen people on twitter claim they became a kpop stan for the drama on god 😭most def pop culture stans

  • @analu1166
    @analu1166 Před 2 lety +62

    ok, let me try to elaborate what i wanna say without having the dramatic ones calling me anti. and a warning: i wrote a college essay here. btw, english is not my first language so that explains mistakes and the size of the text yay
    about opinion 11, i can't talk about bp because that's something we'd only know if they didn't come from a big3 company. also, i don't care if you disagree with me, feel free to do it. and i'm using this opinion because it's the best one for an example here so the person who sent it is not necessarily the one i'm talking to/about.
    ANYWAYS
    i really don't get what people mean with "bts is not there because of their music all the time, sometimes it's just fame", 'cause they are literally the definition of overcoming. everyone already knows that they came from a poor company and took years to even get their first win. they got black oceans and people calling them horrible things, threatening them and saying their work was all about plagiarism. they were robbed by awards and you can't deny it, you could literally make a kpop album with the screenshots of the voting results, their digital and sales numbers and the final result - not surprisingly, a big3 group getting the award. basically what im trying to say here is that they're the LAST people you could say this "they're on top only because they have a big fanbase" thing about 'cause they have their fanbase exactly because of their music and hate me but they're one of the few ones to do so. they're not where they are cause they were already destined to succeed with a big company there ready to protect and promote them. people listened to their music, liked it and now they have fans with them (i know the person didn't say they're privileged). and what do you expect fans to do? not support them if one comeback is not their favorite/if they don't loooove the song? that's called a casual listener and you can fight me here, but it's the truth. at some point, fans are not there just for the music, but also for the people, you can't avoid it, that's how it works. and about the awards like soty, it's not their fault if they will get it even if you think they're not the best candidates, 'cause it has always been like this (votes + judges + digital points + album sales) but, you have to admit, people just started complaining when their priviledge faves started losing awards for bangtan.
    besides, no hate but among the "biggest" groups today (twice, rv, bp, exo, nct, itzy, txt, got7, skz, gidle for example) bts is, indeed, the only one who didn't have that whole big company privilege. and yes, even txt and i mean it, 'cause they have a great discography but still, we wouldn't know how they would do in the industry if bighit wasn't already big when they debuted. ANOTHER REMINDER: i'm not saying these groups/solos don't work hard or deserve whatever they get, but still, you can't possibly think that ALL and i mean ALL the big3 artists would've been as successful as they are if it wasn't for their company and that's what's called the big3 privilege, which bts never had. one recent example is aespa (again, absolutely no hate). they might have good songs for some but how can you explain their hype before the debut without saying "they're a sm group"? same with others, good examples are exo and blackpink too. and it's not only there, if you want an example outside kpop, look at olivia rodrigo 🤷‍♀️
    so yeah, some might be there cause of privileges and not necessarily good music or talent, but that's just not bangtan. they'd be famous anyway and their fanbase being huge is just a consequence of their talent and the fact that they're true and incredible artists, so i guess it's fair
    and amen siblings cause that was a bible, i bet no one read it but i hope it was clear enough if someone did

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +8

      had a long read but yes

    • @analu1166
      @analu1166 Před 2 lety +1

      @@winterosy some people will say i need a therapist but they're just overreacting
      sorry btw

    • @Nicholi86
      @Nicholi86 Před 2 lety +14

      I read it all the way through but I'm also tired. I can only speak from personal experience but I stanned BTS in 2014 and literally followed that growth. BTS were never that group who didn't make numbers. Even before they got their wins, their streams were better than their sales and they had a serious cult following because of Jhope, RM and Suga who each brought a bit of fame with them. They also connected to the GP in a way that wasn't so obvious in the beginning but when you actually look at their lyrics, they have been writing what the GP have been wanting to say from the very beginning. Their music were giving people voice. Their music brought then where they are today.
      And yes thought I also support TXT, it's clear that their achievements in the beginning are rooted in privilege. Still, I have seen them taking control of that and I would say, they would have been famous anyway even if they were from BH as long as they followed the exact same route they are taking now. They stand out. They can't help it. Their colours are uniquely theirs and no one else can quite do what they do. They would have slowly risen to the top.

    • @analu1166
      @analu1166 Před 2 lety +13

      @@Nicholi86 yes, you could definitely call bangtan monster rookies back then! that's exactly the point: they had sales, streams, good chart positions and everything that's usually taken under consideration for main awards/others and still wouldn't get recognition for it, so we can all agree that the reason was their company not having enough money or influence like jyp, sm or yg, especially yg and sm. and even worse, big3 fans comparing and accusing them of every possible bad thing in the world. at some point even the companies started doing that too (one example is yg, they won't let go of the bs&t plagiarism accusation, look back in 2019 when they asked about it at the mots: persona conference 🤷‍♀️)
      for txt, i also think they would've succeed coming from a small company, different from many and i mean MANY others

  • @ribisabu4994
    @ribisabu4994 Před 2 lety +43

    Unpopular opinion: when some people say they miss old bts's music they are not being any ex armies. I can see some armys on twt does that. When they say that they just want that style of bts on their newer release. I liked all the songs they released till mots7. The english releases are godd but iit was not having THE BTS feels.(i just hate it when raplines weren't having raps).
    The only english single i liked in kpop would be twices's the feels. That is exactly how you should release an english song. It thas the twice style. They were having that in their song

    • @G3NTOK1
      @G3NTOK1 Před 2 lety +8

      I agree!! I’m glad to see someone say this because ik this is how it is for me. Bts has this sortie unique sound to their songs that their newer songs are somewhat lacking (not in a completely bad way) it’s just you can hear the difference and I think the difference has to do with the rap line. Bts debuted as a rap heavy group with supporting vocals (hence why some people say their vocal line isn’t strong but that’s okay because they still sound good.)

    • @Ani-gk2im
      @Ani-gk2im Před 2 lety +17

      As someone who listen to bts old songs a lot and has the same opinion about the English songs, I still don’t like when people say they should make songs like their old ones. For the record, I have a problem with the “I like old ___” in general, not just bts. I see people say this about youtubers I watch or non kpop artists. And though you don’t have to like someone’s new stuff, you can just let them be. Some people just take it too seriously or too far, not referring to you. People need to realize that everyone changes overtime, they grow new interests and want to do something different. I don’t like their English songs, not my taste, but I’m sure it was an experience for the guys, and after all it’s their life and their career.

    • @stephanieisinspace
      @stephanieisinspace Před 2 lety +5

      @@Ani-gk2im exactly everyone changes and they’ve been artists for a long time so it’s obvious that their tastes in music will change

    • @Alabts
      @Alabts Před měsícem +1

      I would say bts never changed cuz they never stuk to one single concept or type of music, they were constantly doing different type of music and concepts.

  • @cristinapaganini9432
    @cristinapaganini9432 Před 2 lety +19

    I don't get these kpop stans that say "comebacks are getting boring" .... I mean, these are the same people who are so willing to say the music is bad or even "the worst thing they've ever heard" when the groups try to do something different from the generic stuff. Cof cof I am still hurt by the whole sticker situation cof cof.
    Not saying that everyone needs to like the song, just that it wasn't as bad as they were making it appear.

    • @G3NTOK1
      @G3NTOK1 Před 2 lety +1

      It really wasn’t, once I listened to it a bit and ignored the noise in the beginning it’s actually pretty good. Especially the chorus and the bridge; even the rap is good imo.
      Edit: Tbh, I like it a bit better than lemonade and it’s only cause sticker sounds very different but in a good way.

    • @teamorevilover2863
      @teamorevilover2863 Před 2 lety

      Sticker is not bad at all, the negative reaction is just too dramatic

  • @kevinscheeseballhair9720
    @kevinscheeseballhair9720 Před 2 lety +28

    5:57 this person wrote that bg comebacks nowadays are looking and sounding the same... no first, they mentioned TBZ but they came back with Thrill Ride which is an upbeat, summer concept and not “edm with black leather pants”?? And we literally have After Midnight by Astro, Cherry by AB6IX, Wave by CIX, or LOSER=LOVER by TXT. There are a handful of bg’s that have a versatile discography (TXT, ONEUS, Seventeen, Golden Child) but I also get where they’re coming from because let’s just use SKZ as an example. I’ve been a STAY for quite a while but I can say that most of their tt’s sound the same, probably because of this formula they have (starts with rap, vocal prechorus, only music for the chorus, you get what I mean). Most of their b-sides also sound similar but I like a few handful of their songs like Gone Days and Mixtape:Oh, that aren’t music heavy.

    • @tisssxx
      @tisssxx Před 2 lety +5

      hi!! i’m the person who wrote this opinion and would like to clarify some things🥺
      with the boyz, you’re absolutely right, but i meant the stealer not thrill ride, my bad, didn’t explain it.
      regarding txt, ab6ix and others, that’s why i wrote at the beginning that not all of them, txt’s latest comeback is one of the most original things i’ve heard and seen in 2021.
      your example with skz is exactly what i meant by writing this opinion!! i’m not hating on any bg out there but i just wish their management was a little more creative with the concept or the structure of the song. i hope i’ve cleared all the misunderstandings we’ve had🤍

    • @kevinscheeseballhair9720
      @kevinscheeseballhair9720 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tisssxx aww okay thank you very much! Sorry if i sounded rude 😅

    • @bep5999
      @bep5999 Před 2 lety +17

      I’m a stay so I might be biased, but when stray kids do come out with different concepts (gone days, levanter, get cool, side effects) people absolutely hated it, they got way less views and less attention. Now they have found a formula that works for them and they are repetitive? Also I absolutely agree that they have similar sounds, but gods menu, back door and thunderous are all completely different in my mind. Gods menu is very loud and edm, back door is jazzy, and thunderous is more traditional. Plus their bsides are so different. I feel like people who don’t listen to skz would say they sound the same, but if you actually listen to the songs, they are different.
      But again, each to their own, I just hate people saying these songs sound exactly the same, when they clearly don’t, at least in my mind?
      And the mv’s have a storyline going on, so of course there are going to be similarities. But are you really going to tell me that gods menu is the same as scars?
      Kpop stand always make me laugh, because would we get mad at blake Shelton for making country music? Would we get mad at avicii for making edm? Would we get mad at western artist for liking a style of music? Idk.

    • @clover2739
      @clover2739 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bep5999 I’m late but I agree with you, the latest title tracks have a similar formula but they aren’t the same to me at all like I just don’t see them the same but I guess I can see why other people have that opinion but what really through me off was saying that their bsides are similar because that definitely isn’t the case at all they have so much different types of songs as their bsides so I was surprised at that but maybe that’s just me

    • @ning8
      @ning8 Před rokem

      I think it's because of mainstream bg music, the typical noise chorus with rap in the second verse etc etc. And the groups you mentioned; ab6ix, cix, astro, oneus, golden child, they aren't as popular internationally anymore. So the op probably hasn't looked into those groups yet and just said their opinion. But honestly what you said is understandable. Actually I'll take this as a chance to promote male soloists. They deserve so much more hype because their songs are wonderful, like Dvwn (I'm his biggest fan), Demian, Citi, and Crush.

  • @Idkdbdidb
    @Idkdbdidb Před 2 lety +12

    9:08 there is also young k from day6, he wrote EVERY SINGLE DAY6 SONG, you can search by yourself, he wrote and composed every day6 songs but he don't have the appreciation he deserve

  • @noniLaus
    @noniLaus Před 2 lety +17

    I always find it funny when people say a group is only successful because of their fans because what else would make them successful, their label buying their own albums? Of course it's because of the fans. And what brings in the fans? The music, in most cases (since there are still some people who some reason only stan for visuals or bandwagon, the heck are you even doing). And once you've built a massive fandom (or if you debut with the reputation of being from the Big 3, or somehow related to BTS), no matter if your new song/debut song is a hit or miss, if you got millions of people waiting to listen to the song, all those millions are gonna listen at least once, and if they like it listen to it many, many times, so of course they'll instantly have more streams than a group that only a couple thousands even know exist.

  • @vrishabhandari4349
    @vrishabhandari4349 Před 2 lety +24

    Fun Fact: we all have different musical taste

  • @Mr4thQTR
    @Mr4thQTR Před 2 lety +10

    For me, I've been a fan of hip hop for the longest time and love and often write my own poetry. When I first took the dive into Kpop, what made it really enjoyable for me was not knowing what the lyrics were about and just enjoying the work that went into a songs production and composition and the artistry that is vocalisation and rap. Enjoy what you enjoy and don't get caught up on what other people think, life is so much more fun and enjoyable that way.

  • @youreirritating9654
    @youreirritating9654 Před 2 lety +10

    it's weird how people want all groups to self-produce when this should be the responsibility of their companies. most groups who self produced are given no choice by their companies for example, g-idle wouldnt have a cb every now and then if soyeon didnt dabble on making music, same with seventeen.

  • @katarinayoo2
    @katarinayoo2 Před 2 lety +20

    Not really unpopular but yes big 3 privilege exists but you can't make that an excuse when a group or idol from big 3 is successful

    • @moonsailor9082
      @moonsailor9082 Před 2 lety +4

      I mean big 3 (+hybe) privilege exists for a reason ,they just don't choose random people off street ,they choose the best to give them the best

  • @zara-uc8ck
    @zara-uc8ck Před 2 lety +16

    number 6 is definitely not describing an ateez comeback when they literally just released both, one of the sexiest and one of the brightest songs back to back. that was kinda shady for no reason

    • @somea6706
      @somea6706 Před 2 lety

      they kinda had a point. the only bg that is a definite stand out from the rest would be txt for eg. Most bg are doing this cool or dark like kinda concepts for most of their music and songs. Not that its really bad but it does same blurred when just glossing over different bg mvs. But as someone that listens to ateez ik their sound so they do sound different to me but i can actually imagine myself not being able to differentiate like that if i didnt know their music and etc.

    • @ningina4841
      @ningina4841 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rebeccabie aespa and dream catcher aren’t even girl crush 😭 aespa has a futuristic hyper pop concept while dream catcher has a dark horror concept

  • @tiffm1458
    @tiffm1458 Před 2 lety +9

    For #14 I agree to a certain extent. These companies are huge and every group they put out will always gain attraction no matter what, but at the same time the competition between the trainees in that company is probably huge. Yes, they get a ticket to success immediately but at the same time, isn't that why most people try to get in those companies. It's way harder to get into those companies and let alone get in the debut lineup.

  • @haterscankindlygochoke9185

    When people hate on BTS English songs, I've just come to the conclusion that they either hate happiness or they fetishize koreans.

    • @akinator_
      @akinator_ Před 10 měsíci

      Please I don’t like it just like I don’t like a lot of mainstream generic pop music. As long as I don’t go around being toxic about it it’s ok not to like their newer music.

  • @-core-y3878
    @-core-y3878 Před rokem +5

    ive never agreed SO FAST to the first 2 persons opinion he/she/both IS SO RIGHT!!! alot of these are also very understandable and the one with "majority rules" that probably me and im a under 18 kpop stan and go with what majority on internet says and im still trying to learn to put my own thought and opinion into a situation/scandal. lol

  • @pomme0472
    @pomme0472 Před 2 lety +24

    I really like the way you explain your opinion, it's always respectful and you seem to not care if we disagree with you, wich is the point : debate. Yeah, I think I just wanted to let you know that I watched a lot of unpopular kpop opinion videos but yours are my favorites

  • @michelle-zy5mo
    @michelle-zy5mo Před 2 lety +96

    I agree with #8. A lot of idols truly aren’t artists, unless you want to give them the watered down version of what an artist is.
    Watered down definition of artists: someone who is skilled or practices an art form
    Non-watered down: someone who produces and creates an art form
    Idols not being artists but performers isn’t really a diss, it’s just an acknowledgment of where their skills lie. It’s just like how in America certain people have “singer/song writer” attached to their names, it announces that they create their craft. Or how certain rappers are called performers because they don’t write their own raps but perform them, same thing with singers. It’s okay for them to be just idols and not artists. It just a way to acknowledge people who have different involvement levels in what they do.

    • @cleoz_
      @cleoz_ Před 2 lety +15

      i agree with the most part, but really toxic stans or just fans in general, use this "artist/idol" definition to drag other groups or idols, to degrade their skill/talent and reducing them to just like "that" .. it's a disrespect really

    • @liuyangyang2587
      @liuyangyang2587 Před 2 lety

      what i think is some kpop artists are just the way composers and writers and choreographers could execute THEIR artist abilities.

  • @juicesipxD
    @juicesipxD Před 2 lety +18

    i just discovered your channel like few days ago, and thank God i did. please continue doing videos like this, no shades, just facts. i love how you're unbiased on your opinions and how you respect those ppl who disagree with you, which i think is what most of the ppl can't do nowadays. found a new safe place here, more power!

  • @graeymoon7191
    @graeymoon7191 Před 2 lety +36

    The fact that some people put BTS in their opinions saying that they always will get first and blah blah blah, let me remind you that they came from literally an unknown company and they gained their fame alone. Just like how you put Blackpink or other groups from the big 3 with them just hurts, they would already get a lot of fame even before debuting just because they're from the big 3, BTS gained their fame alone, without proper promotions and all. The big 3 groups are already well known already. Stop putting a group which gained their popularity with another group who had a good amount of popularity from the start. No hate on Blackpink or any other group compared with BTS. And no I am not being sensitive or anything but just stop comparing BTS to every single group.

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +7

      yes but i don’t think bighit was UNKNOWN at all

    • @graeymoon7191
      @graeymoon7191 Před 2 lety +11

      @@winterosy Sure, but the BIG 3 always over shadowed these small companies, not only BIGHIT but RBW ent., CUBE etc

  • @doienara
    @doienara Před 2 lety +18

    i think i found my fav ktuber with great and respectful opinion, im gonna give you a subscribe!

  • @arushukla9469
    @arushukla9469 Před 2 lety +6

    I completely agree. K-pop idols are artists. Period.

    • @livin_bangtan343
      @livin_bangtan343 Před 2 lety

      Even if they perform, they don't create the performance, imo not all kpop idols are artists but I do respect your opinion

  • @hopefilms7966
    @hopefilms7966 Před 2 lety +10

    BTS and Blackpink wouldn't be standing up in the billboards charts and say to the other groups that,
    "Ayo, my work is here is done now it's your time to shine" lol.

    • @teamorevilover2863
      @teamorevilover2863 Před 2 lety +5

      The amount of other kpop fans say that both don't help in paving the way but instead block their faves.... when literally they can see the effect that BTS and BP have on their fav 4th gen groups (popular internationally but not domestically)

    • @butnamjoongunshot2510
      @butnamjoongunshot2510 Před rokem +1

      @@teamorevilover2863 ikrrrr

  • @nupoordalvi
    @nupoordalvi Před rokem +2

    i just want to say that the way you explained your opinions was so healthy. there was no toxicity like "OH GO ARGUE WITH THE WALL". like you made sure you covered your pov without undermining other's pov. i must commend you for that.

  • @cheri8832
    @cheri8832 Před 2 lety +13

    actually no.2 about cai bing ranking high, she’s actually dropped from top 9 to 20 or lower

    • @jisooland3601
      @jisooland3601 Před 2 lety

      mnet used her for clout

    • @cheri8832
      @cheri8832 Před 2 lety +7

      @@jisooland3601 yep, i feel bad for her she seemed stressed and it was one time and mnet took the chance to fire at her

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +1

      oh rip

  • @Aurora_252
    @Aurora_252 Před 2 lety +15

    If you think bts butter and dynamite success came from kpop stans and just army then you are very much wrong no song fandom oriented topes the charts like that specially US charts army is big but not that big and proof is that dynamite on it's first day had 1500 US radio spins even if I'm not the biggest fan of their English songs but it was a smart move that got them that success most ppl outside of kpop actually only enjoy bts English music which means bts got music for everyone

    • @somea6706
      @somea6706 Před 2 lety +1

      thats because bts is popular. Any popular act in america that releases a song is likely to top the chart or go top 10. Army definitely didnt keep butter at the top by themselves the entire time, but they are what got it up there for the first week or 2 and after that the gp would listen since its number 1 and also in English. A lot of ppl actually wouldnt have known it was bts tho unless they were some what related to army or kpop.

    • @Aurora_252
      @Aurora_252 Před 2 lety

      @@somea6706 well obv but that's not really what i said , ppl say that their English songs were successful only bc army pushed it which is not true at all and specially dynamite it was pushed by gp from the first week specially radio play and gp doesn't care about charts much and for example life goes on was very successful in Korea but it toped hot 100 and ppl still didn't listen to it i,t was fandom impact first week then it fell off the charts bc it simply didn't have gp and radio play at all and that shows you that ppl do not really care about charts as much as you think

    • @somea6706
      @somea6706 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Aurora_252 what i meant about being on top of the charts is that ppl will hear about songs that go there. the reason why their english songs would have stayed longer WAS bc they were english songs and bts is very popular thus ppl would want to check it out. LGO wasnt english so many werent going to pay attention to it and after the first week or 2, fans collective streaming wouldn't be enough to keep it up there. Also radios usually play charting songs with favoritism to english ones.

  • @flowerbox_em1102
    @flowerbox_em1102 Před 2 lety +8

    My opinion: I don't support mnet at all for mistreating and/or rigging whoever the contestants are but I do support the contestants (that's why I watch episodes every week).

  • @brielle5499
    @brielle5499 Před 2 lety +13

    The following what others say without doing any research I would have to agree with. For example the whole woojin thing he got accused for s*xual assault and a bunch of other things all because he decided to leave SKZ for personal reasons which I think is most likely because he didn't fit the style SKZ was going for. Which is why I do research on a idol and their scandal and what they did in there past before becoming a idol and don't jump to conclusions like others. Don't always believe everything that is on the internet do your research or don't get involved in it since its usually a bunch of bs that someone makes up to ruin an idols career and life.I know I am probably going to have responds that disagree with me but, that is my opinion and what I think please respect it I don't want to start anything.

  • @itsdrawingguy3860
    @itsdrawingguy3860 Před 2 lety +14

    12:00 Not a huge army anymore, but BTS did use all of their power and effort to literally get them to where they are today (and even brought Big Hit to the top companies). Blackpink, hmm....no comment on that

  • @donuthetic
    @donuthetic Před 2 lety +11

    For soojin's case: it all happened when she was *12* .. her friend didn't showed up for a hangout so soojin was mad and called her friend
    And started to ask "why didn't she came" and her friend's (aka the accuser's) sister took the phone and cursed at soojin (from what ik)
    And they even had a video of them vibing to dumdi dumdi
    And that friend grp (I'm talking about the actress) she was never a part of it
    Soojin did say that she tried smoking in highschool days
    But now she's a better person then before
    I hope it explains well if there's any Eng mistakes I'm sry
    And if u wanna ask something
    I'm here (I'll answer if ik bout it well)
    Well now she left the gidle
    My ult nevie heart is sad :"(

  • @Ruchaaaaaa
    @Ruchaaaaaa Před 2 lety +6

    Groups that include meaningful lyrics
    Onf
    The rose
    Lucy
    BDC
    Heize (solo)
    Giriboy (solo)
    Youra (solo)
    Bloo (solo)
    Shaun (solo)
    Onewe
    HA:TFELT
    Loona

  • @natytambasco
    @natytambasco Před 2 lety +9

    The one about idols not being artists is kinda wrong exactly because like you said, they are performers, but I think the person was to focused on the creative part (lyrics, producion) to see this fact.

  • @asahified
    @asahified Před 2 lety +6

    im so happy this video didnt hurt my soul. I hate when people dont do research and only go for the victim. I also dont like when people say "your fav sucks cus they were racist etc etc. well your favs also did so and so"

  • @personunknown7129
    @personunknown7129 Před rokem +1

    About 7, I've had that done to me by army's about 5 years ago. I think it was one of the newer comebacks that just didn't do it for me (fake love maybe, but I don't remember exactly), where people tried to tell me I wasn't an army for literally disliking one comeback (I was a hardcore army back then), so my opinion on this is pretty strong:
    Being able to admit your group messed up and expressing it through constructive, well meant criticism is actually proof of how loyal you are. Cause you don't like a song, yet still forgive them and trust that they can do better next time, AND take your time to explain why you dislike the song? It's funny because without that feedback, so many groups would go to shit, even the big ones. Artists grow on criticism. It's good for the production team + idols to know what to do better next.
    8: many people just care more about melody or the 'vibe' of a song. It's not sad or anything. If I cared more about lyrics, I wouldn't be into kpop. Yes, I can appreciate good lyrics if they're there (onlyoneof has GREAT lyrics), but if there are not, I can still enjoy the song.
    Also I highly disagree with the 'idols are not artists'. Rather than saying that, i usually just appreciate the WHOLE team for what it is. I appreciate producer's for production, directors for direction, art designers for visuals, makeup artists for makeup etc, and I appreciate the idols for acting out that project to perfection. It's like you'd say 'actors aren't artists, the producers and directors are' well its just that they're ALL artists. You can like or dislike them but they're still artists, even if they sometimes suck at their job.

  • @halfofstraykidsisgay4641
    @halfofstraykidsisgay4641 Před 2 lety +2

    7:30 this opinion reminds me of kingdom. stray kids' i'll be your man stage had so much emotion and meaning behind it but since it wasn't "flashy" or didn't have an exciting vibe they got last place. it's sad, rlly

  • @jaysfairy
    @jaysfairy Před 2 lety +12

    omg the editing is so good

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety

      lol thank you this wasn’t even that much tbh

  • @leoniemelodie7
    @leoniemelodie7 Před rokem

    I really appreciate your channel. I feel like I matured a lot as a kpop fan, seeing some of these opinions I felt like I was finally over some of my initial misconceptions.

  • @youreirritating9654
    @youreirritating9654 Před 2 lety +2

    i just know that 6th opinion wasnt abt tbz especially when they recently performed with a summer concept. among the three mentioned they also have switched concepts from time to time (bloom bloom, reveal, ddd, the stealer, thrill ride, etc)

  • @fctcrcf2599
    @fctcrcf2599 Před 2 lety +4

    I honestly feel like pointing out other idols mistakes when your idol is getting attacked can be a good response depending on the context for example if a namjoon stan talk shit about a bang chan stan then the bangchan stan can call them out on regard of stanning another "problematic" idol but if they are just calling out of the shake to change the subject then its not it

  • @suckmetaehyung69
    @suckmetaehyung69 Před 2 lety +22

    BTS and blackpink popularity is completely different tho. Where BTS have good songs and put out good music every year blackpink don't. Bts got popular after many years bcuz people just found their lyrics is good than others groups in kpop. While blackpink is famous even without putting good music (I'm talking about the recycling songs and how they're big bang and 2ne1 hoobae) so do your maths ig

    • @wjshty
      @wjshty Před 2 lety +7

      ?? both groups have good and bad songs just like every group ever

    • @monsieurbunny8155
      @monsieurbunny8155 Před 2 lety +4

      I Respectfully disagree , blackpink has good music

    • @suckmetaehyung69
      @suckmetaehyung69 Před 2 lety +6

      @@monsieurbunny8155 sure 💀

    • @monsieurbunny8155
      @monsieurbunny8155 Před 2 lety +5

      @@suckmetaehyung69 what are you talking about, their music isn't bad at all and you know it. BTS is awesome, no need to bring blackpink down just to uphold them.
      Both groups are popular because they have star quality and star quality music 💯

    • @wjshty
      @wjshty Před 2 lety +2

      @@suckmetaehyung69 someone clearly has not heard whistle, stay, don't know what to do, hope not and you never know

  • @haileymitchell8165
    @haileymitchell8165 Před 2 lety +14

    I don't even have to read into it that much to see that the comment from the Mrstealyogorl just hates BTS. That was not criticism that was just hate. The fact that they only have 3 English songs and it's making that persons that mad is so strange. They literally have released tons of Korean songs since Dynamite. Like a whole Korean Album too. Performing songs in a different language is not easy. People got so mad that Dynamite's lyrics were not deep enough for them. Ok go sing a deep poetic song in Korean Katie from Kansas 😐

  • @raeven4336
    @raeven4336 Před 2 lety +5

    Unpopular opinion: I think Yujin is overrated. There were so many more interesting girl on gp999. The only reason she got in was because she used to be in CLC.
    You guys really have the audacity to get mad at Bahiyyih for debuting and saying it’s just because of her brother. While Yujin is only debuting because CLC just disbanded.

    • @lukiedoodle
      @lukiedoodle Před 10 měsíci

      I don't think entering a survival competition with several years of proven bops in a successful kpop group behind you makes you overrated 🥲

  • @torr3n
    @torr3n Před rokem +2

    7:58, in my experience of listening through BTS, it was evident that they care deeply about their lyrics, because from the very first album lyrics stay in a range of theme of the song, having meaning, and depth, and every solo project from them has different lyrics, different themes, different use and meaning, and also StrayKids have that.
    9:01 and this, MonstaX produces their music, like for gods sake, Wonho was a producer in the group, Jooheon and IM are credited in 90% of lyrics(its about 50/50 between them)
    Again BTS and StrayKids rap lines have most of credits for writing and producing etc. so the rap lines are members of a Korean Copyright association, and Moonbyul is 34th of 100 place in a list of copyrighted idols.

  • @chaeyoung_of_stayc6646

    Yep me too i prioritize lyrics the most..

  • @disaster4550
    @disaster4550 Před 2 lety +6

    ok but the opinion abt idols not being woke isn't about them being good\bad, it's about liberal american ideas (im not using this in a negative sense just dk how to word better)... like obviously a good person wouldn't want to offend someone, but unless they're american or extremely online, they won't know about most things that are offensive to you. and that's normal, they are from a different country. people refuse to understand and try to imagine themselves in their shoes, instead they always assume the worst. but im sure they know deep down the idol didn't mean to do anything bad, cuz why would they purposely sabotage their own career and get death threats? people just love getting outraged on twitter, they don't care abt educating people.
    "people bring up who i stan when they're favs fucked up" is also a weird take, like if you're gonna harass a problematic idol's fans cuz you're mad they stan them, why are your favs an exception? thats just double standarts, ofc ppl would bring it up

  • @remrys
    @remrys Před rokem +1

    7:23 txt ! their lyrics r really deep n meaningfull. maybe not gbgb but their other songs have nice meanings :)

  • @captainofastroboatddana5884

    Well thtill ride was pretty unique

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +1

      thrill ride was pretty good ngl

  • @personunknown7129
    @personunknown7129 Před rokem +1

    Imo, people can't blame the kpop fandom for being immature, given that the companies literally MARKET towards young teens. The only reason I'm here as a 20 yo is because I fell in love with kpop as a 12 yo. Ofc there's more mature groups, with mature concepts, but you can't tell me that bts or blackpinks music nowadays isn't literally made for 14 year olds. By that I don't mean that you can't listen to these songs when you're older, hell, I do, it's just that the immature vibe is in the music ITSELF!
    I remember being a blink when bp debuted, and I really felt their music going like boombayah and duuduuduuu, it was like my shit exactly, but now if I'm being presented with a bp song I literally don't even know how to react anymore. And that's because I'm not in the group they market towards anymore. The kpop fandom is extremely young and you always gotta count that in. I just stay out of the drama and enjoy the music, and talk to my friends who listen to kpop.

  • @navitiny9510
    @navitiny9510 Před 2 lety +2

    Ateez last comeback its like the same as usual for boygroups, but is not even their fault, cause FANS chose it, they could have choose Eternal Sunshine which is fresh but they dont

  • @ninanoiir
    @ninanoiir Před 2 lety +2

    "Where is the experimental unique loona?"
    Hula Hoop- Was i being summoned?

  • @lveDive
    @lveDive Před 6 měsíci

    11:43 underrated group is my girl’s PURPLE KISS

  • @Cha_t
    @Cha_t Před 2 lety +4

    In general when I listen To a song the lyrics are important To me but I stop watching the lyrics for kpop cause it's literally always about love and i'm 23 never been in a relationship never fell in love or had feelings toward someone so idfc about love 😅
    So since a couple years now i'm not watching lyrics cause I don't wanna be disappointed

  • @gouriprasad1872
    @gouriprasad1872 Před rokem +3

    I feel irritated by the standards stans have for idols. all the damn time. The fact that they can dance and sing together itself was so surprising to me when I got into kpop, and the idols being likeable made it more enjoyable for me. But when I see stans nitpicking and complaining about all these things that we usually never got, expecting idols to be all these perfect things AND the idols and companies themselves also acting like it should be normal ,is upsetting. It not only is dehumanising the idols but it is making kpop much huger than it should be. Its just music and performances. Sure, there's a lot of effort that goes in, but that doesn't mean you gotta dedicate your life to this culture. it's almost become a ego competition to swear by your faves. Listen to what you like, or don't, just stop complaining so much and wasting your precious time.

  • @Ghizlane_06
    @Ghizlane_06 Před 2 lety +1

    omg finally i was waiting for this lol, but why does it have to be uploaded when at school TT

  • @katien3022
    @katien3022 Před 2 lety

    Okay to the point “Kpop stans will eat anything up”… very true especially of baby stans! I was buying a lot of stuff and then I had a realization that it was so much unnecessary junk. They literally produce five different bundles of year of just photo books and photo cards bc stans will literally need to have everything. It’s a huge waste I realized and since then I’ve basically bought nothing or limited to something I really thought about and want.

  • @iluvuforever
    @iluvuforever Před 2 lety +1

    Number 5. STRONGLY AGREE

  • @theonlyoneash
    @theonlyoneash Před rokem +2

    About the double standards comment, female idols like Jennie or Wonyoung are hated on and get called cringy when they 'act cute' but when it's male idols like Bang Chan for example, it's just considered cute🗿
    Don't get me wrong, Chan is my ult bias but omg the hate Wonyoung gets is stupid

    • @STFUkpoopies
      @STFUkpoopies Před rokem +2

      Tell me one time bangchan acted the way wonyoung acted? Was him rude?didnt bow to seniors?ate a strawberry with 2 hands?talk with that cringy aegyo voice?lol

  • @namu4380
    @namu4380 Před 2 lety +1

    Opinion 6 is my fav ...it's so unexciting like !!........I only look up to BTS and TXT ...I do check out other bg cb but I feel like nice but meh !
    BTW not hating the fans who like them

  • @luvlvets
    @luvlvets Před 2 lety +5

    KINGDOM COME BEST BSIDE

  • @sunsusys
    @sunsusys Před rokem

    I totally agree with the cheese and gromit one.
    Not uploading any content in 5 or 6 month isn't mistrearment at all, As I know preparing a comeback can take a lot of time, lets see imagine your favorite group releases a song and 9 months later they get another song, you probably though they rest all that 9 months, but actually no, the mos sure thing is that from that 9 months they only rest 1 or 2, bc it takes a lot of time preparing a new álbum. Anyways I hope you understood

  • @stanaespastreamdrama
    @stanaespastreamdrama Před rokem +1

    My opinion is seventeen have a huge fanbase in Australia but they never tour here while they have plans to tour EU but not Australia there are no mention of interest of touring here from them

  • @Cha_t
    @Cha_t Před 2 lety +18

    I love BTS's music since 2014 when I listened for the first time their songs but when Boy with love came out I didn't liked it but I loved On and BLACK SWAN. I didn't liked Life Goes On and same for Dynamite Butter and Permission To Dance and recently My Universe. It's not because it's in english cause I like a lot of english music but it does not have the same taste than their Korean songs idk 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'm kinda sad and hope that they're gonna release Korean songs now..
    But not everyone "was depressed or sad" during the pandemic 😅 Fr it didn't affect me at all, I didn't change my habits, way of living etc.. And I lost my job due To covid but I was not depressed or sad really. And I know a lot of people around me and it was also the same
    And I fully agree with opinion 11

    • @imswimmingtokoreatomeetbts789
      @imswimmingtokoreatomeetbts789 Před 2 lety +5

      Me too,, for me it get kinda boring lol im sorry,, even my army friend find their latest songs a bit boring

    • @amethystcane7401
      @amethystcane7401 Před 2 lety +17

      From what i can tell, it seems you just don't like bubble gum pop music.

    • @Cha_t
      @Cha_t Před 2 lety +2

      @@imswimmingtokoreatomeetbts789 yeah agree 😓

    • @Cha_t
      @Cha_t Před 2 lety +2

      @@amethystcane7401 Yeah not Really my style 😅

    • @amethystcane7401
      @amethystcane7401 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Cha_t its cool xD We all have different tastes in music

  • @amandamandi229
    @amandamandi229 Před rokem +2

    one thing i disagree in most of this opinions is that they think liking something means that the thing is objectively good. in my opinion, it’s ok liking something that is a little bit shitty (not as a person being shitty but more of the lyrics, melody and maybe vocals aren’t good). and also the other way around (not liking something that’s objectively good). you just need to be not delulu and aware of it’s quality) istg i saw a tiktok of a false collab skz x drake of maniac and drake’s voice was absolutely robotic and unironically thought it was a bop 🤡🤡🤡. i literally like anything with maniac (except if they do the same thing they did with god’s menu for that shopee comercial).

  • @imsoserene0009
    @imsoserene0009 Před 2 lety

    I literally agree so much with the

  • @kalyriewells1976
    @kalyriewells1976 Před 2 lety +4

    Very Unpopular opinion: These companies aren't as evil as yall make them out to be. I see people complaining that " so and so group never releases any music the ceo must hate them and be trying to sabotage them". The only reason this happens is because the group isn't making any money. And I don't think it's evil to do that. As a business, why would you spend money on a group they you know won't be returned? Why would you jeopardize the jobs of everyone working at the company over 1 group of people? That's a very selfish thing to expect. And for the bit about people thinking companies purposefully sabotage their groups that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Sure groups can be mismanaged due to negligence but again from a business standpoint why would you do that? When a group is "pushed into the basement" it's most likely because no one was buying albums, nor merchandise, etc.

  • @Aerishu_
    @Aerishu_ Před měsícem

    Everglow would've been one of the most popular groups right now if they hadn't gone on that 2 year hiatus

  • @wxyenz1294
    @wxyenz1294 Před rokem

    what’re the background instrumentals in order pls ?

  • @sunshinehappymoarainbow9186

    Thank you

  • @irada1178
    @irada1178 Před rokem +1

    6:33 you should try listening to The Song of Dann (Promise) and Ascension by KINGDOM. Their m/vs are very good and it is ike historical concept but none of that happened in history.

  • @nicekid99
    @nicekid99 Před 2 lety +1

    i dont get company stans. sure some companies have better “morals” than others, but really, the only people that somewhat care about the fans are the idols. if you’re going to stan someone…or something…stan the idols.

  • @Miniminichimin
    @Miniminichimin Před 2 lety +6

    tbh hybe is one of the worst companies these days, like can we get bang pd back? Ty

  • @Ghizlane_06
    @Ghizlane_06 Před 2 lety +9

    me waiting for one of my 20 opinions to show up:
    🤡

    • @velvetsvz
      @velvetsvz Před 2 lety +1

      20? 😭

    • @winterosy
      @winterosy  Před 2 lety +2

      omg what was your name 💀

    • @Ghizlane_06
      @Ghizlane_06 Před 2 lety

      @@velvetsvz i think more than that

    • @Ghizlane_06
      @Ghizlane_06 Před 2 lety

      @@winterosy the girl who's voice is deeper than felix
      that was my nickname

  • @nia3934
    @nia3934 Před rokem +1

    8th opinion is very common but so annoying. like yes the songs are written by companies specifically for monetary success, good lyricism doesn’t bring you that. there are idols and groups who write/produce their music like seventeen, bts, stray kids, got7 for bgs and as stated mamamoo, g-(i)dle + numerous female soloists. their songs’ meanings go above and beyond and you don’t need to dig deep to find well-written and truly touching lyrics. of course title tracks aren’t going to be most meaningful because title track is what defines how well the comeback will sell, and what sells is not thoughtful lyrics. like this is simple logic what is not licking 🙃

  • @hearteyes6811
    @hearteyes6811 Před 2 lety +1

    I like all kpop groups but im only a fan of bts bp and aespa, and i dont have twitter im on insta and tiktok. I dont think ive ever came across a fan war the entire time i found out ab bts and kpop back in 2018. the kpop accs i follow are just editors or meme/update accs. I dont hardcore stream or vote cuz i genuienly dont care that much lol im just in it for fun, my western music taste consists of the weeknd, summer walker, ariana, sza and such so kpop is my dumb and fun alter ego

  • @vigo823
    @vigo823 Před 2 lety

    Agreed with the cai bing pretty privilege

  • @user-hs5hi1hu7j
    @user-hs5hi1hu7j Před 2 lety +1

    Can you talk about svt in any of your videos..like i get they are mostly perfect and literally lack nthng...but I hardly see multistans talk abt them...they are slept on alot💗

  • @ykthaa
    @ykthaa Před 2 lety +1

    Yes yes yes yes

  • @axldavis5733
    @axldavis5733 Před 2 lety +1

    Haters keeps barking on blinks just because BLACKPINK didn’t have much song and only has 1 comeback per year but no groups can be relevant after a long hiatus like BLACKPINK, they’re still breaking some record without any song for a year.

  • @aprils1888
    @aprils1888 Před 2 lety

    gp999 was the only survival show I ever watched and it was only for Yoo Dayeon...