50cc scooter faster take off mod Simple Carburetor Adjustment
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Looking good 👍✌️
Thanks, needed this tip
No problem
"We'll clean the carb"
"so im going to clean the carb"
"so what we're gonna do is clean this thing real good, clean the jets out, give this thing a *real* good cleaning"
*moments later*
"SO, I bought a new carborater"
Yup sometimes that's how these things go you start the video you make a whole bunch of stuff and then you realize that You have to alter the original plan because of issues with the original carb welcome to CZcams welcome to video editing and welcome to real life wouldn't it be awesome if everything we planned went perfect all the time 😉 It's cute that you tried to be cheeky but unfortunately there is real life to consider here.
no disrespect bro I just thought it was funny. I watch a lot of your DIY stuff and usually dig the mods, jus this one got that big twist I didnt expect.
None taken Just responding like I would to anything else
Nice scooter
Do have a link to where I can get a compatible wiring harness for that engine? I’m pretty sure we have the same one.
Nice 👍🙏👍🙏
Tight because dissimilar metals aluminum and steel form a bond into each other. You were lucky sometimes screws snap off in dissimilar metals.
I have a 49cc bintelli beast. Is that simular to the one in this video?
My cousin plays bass line in a southern rock band
Where do I connect the choke an the enrich
Lol let's mod the carb. Step 1 buy a new carb
So happy I came across this channel. I was thinking of putting a new cdi box on my 50 cc moped also & was thinking about upgrading to a 80cc & just putting into what I have now. Right now it goes about 40/41 on a straight away & will hit 45 downhill. So do you think changing the exhaust etc.... Will give it more tork & speed & is it worth it? I would appreciate your opinion.
@@jasinmullen9276just put that 80cc on, with a 18 or 20 mm carb.
6,5 gr rollers, red or yellow springs on the clutch segments, and a yellow tension spring.
It will take off and the top speed should be around the 75/80 kmh
@@MichelOudendag top speed will not change if u wont change any cvt ratios
@@djilu9916 thats true i have 50cc and il put 28 diameter carb on it cuz i wana see what it will do😂
@@likalekarija_3670 LOL atleast it will get enough air ;)
hello, my kymco super 8 50cc 4t has a factory cdi with a block and has 8 pins, and I want to put a sports cdi and it has 6 pins. how do i do it
Can adjusting that needle in the carb like you did potentially help with a lean fuel mixture? I think that may be my problem with my 50cc Tao Tao
Yes because it will allow more fuel
Can you link your foot pegs? Mine broke
They are removable
New Subscriber......great job ! What brand is the bike itself in this video ? Very Cool....thanks for sharing!!!
Hi lol I believe it's a Dong Fang
I also saw it and thought it's the coolest 50cc scooter ever
Hard start adjusting your valves bro on 50 cc yeah and that stock cab lol
Great channel! I bought the grom clone 50 qmb139 and am running a scant 35 with a pod filter and rejet.
How do you like the df sst?
Just pushed mine home after a spark fail. Intermittent prob runs fine and then all of a sudden? Nothing.
I know it's getting fuel because you can smell it when it doesn't start after dying.
Weird crap with these scooters huh...
Any help would be appreciated.
BTW
I'm a old biker that has been ocean to ocean by bike twice. Had one (actual motorcycle not a gy6) that saw both oceans and and the Gulf Of Mexico. Jumped into the Pacific in southern Cal and then rode to Texas and jumped into the gulf and then went to Myrtle Beach and jumped in the Atlantic.
All that with a quarter for the payphone and a pocket atlas in the fairing pocket (no cell phones back then).
Now playing around with a new gy6 for fun, who'd of thunk it 🙂...
Fun little thing unless you are pushing it.
Hey man sounds like you need to replace your CDI or your coil
@@IFixShet Thanks man, Got a blue one and tried it, switched back to the stock due to hard start.
Gonna try that exact cdi tomorrow...
A quick tip? Be sure you are at the top of the hill if it quits :-)
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@@IFixShet Tried the blue racing cdi, still no luck... Died as soon as the choke (auto enricher) pulled off. Got a flat slide carb with a bigger pilot jet so may try that next. Valves were clanking pretty bad so I adjusted them (250 miles) and I may have them too tight at 003 intake 004 exhaust gonna try 004 005 next. Ran the best ever after the adjustment for about a mile wot...
Now it's just a prob...
Good ole gy6, reminds me of the old AMF Harley's, that'll leave ya on the side of the road :-)
@@thehippiedog5956 huh weird? Ever fixed the problem?
@@nift2923 Well, it's a hard start when hot, starts ok when cold. been through the stock cdi, the blue (ran good with that one until a phantom nostart) and am now on a red box for 2 miles total (stock part with a red cover) ...
...do you know of any reason to be burning up cdi's?
I'm on a third in 500 miles...
Grounding problem? Any help is appreciated...
And third rymes with turd 🙂
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Hehehe...
I have that ssme bike, just changed carbs and its still bogging down and back firing. Any ideas why its doung this
Yup backfiring out of the pipe is too much fuel you need to change the jets. Also make sure To do a valve job
The "tamper proof" stock carbs are set-up for low emissions not performance 🔧👍
Agreed
@Smodlee wow that is so not accurate.... anytime you increase the performance of your ride you can expect a speed gain even if it's a miniscule amount if the engine is working at Peak Performance it will create more speed. Now if you want major fluctuations in speed then you start CVT tuning Big Bore kits, upgraded gearing, larger variator with custom belt for more travel for top end speed. You're not talking to a newbie bro I make my living on CZcams I get paid to do this you don't have to play this who is smarter game with me bro you're going to lose sorry that's just the facts scientifically if you hone an engine to its Peak Performance with fuel and Air it will allow the engine to go faster. However that being said it can only travel as high as the variator will allow it to go. Now that we've got that out of the way is there anything else you would like to try to say to make yourself seem intelligent because I make videos for beginners so they can understand how this stuff works. If you want to get technical join my iFixshet Facebook group and you can join the rest of us that have more knowledge and can help people
@Smodlee to remove anti-tamper bits by the way on the bottom of these carbs it is as simple as just grabbing them with a pair of vice grips and turning left lol I have done it many times and if it gets really bad I will drill it.
Do you got a link to the gauge cluster i bought the bike with broken gauges
Unfortunately not and I'm gonna be honest it's probably gon to be impossible to find. Certain things when they break on these Chinese machines are impossible to replace the plastics and normally the cluster are one of them.
So I got a new carb with an Air filter cone… do I discard the air box 📦 or do I keep it ?
Keep the airbox if you can
Hi drone could I put a cdi limitless box like that on a 50cc rocket icebear
If it's a GY6 engine it should be able to handle it
Just bought one (A Ice Bear), 2022 49cc gy6. pretty cool little devise but allot of details were missed (bought it in the crate) like a short in the tail light that turned out to be a poorly placed connection, a kink in the fuel line under the gas tank causing me to spend time removing plastic panels and finding the problem that I shouldn't have to look for.
Don't know about the unlimited cdi (mostly because the manufactures never use them anymore to limit speed).
Crap never flows uphill.
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Would this work on my dong fang 50cc SRT Ducati monster style frame,I got the black one,haven't had an issues yet,took it on a night run,I made a turn an as I stopped bike motor geared down or engine breaking, an as I was getting ready to turn nothing was coming,I died,I had start it back up an reved it a bit,after thst I was good,drove a few minutes more before heading home,only had it about two weeks now.
Then again I did stop at local gas station, could been bad gas too
This is something you do if you're Tuning your carb. I wouldn't go down this road unless you're experiencing problems. These engines can be very finicky tampering with them can cause greater issues
Ok thanks, I'm a beginner at riding, I love it,I watched your video on what not to do to your scooter or moped an I have been trying throttle discipline with it,an doing well
@@kennywheelus6857 Feed some speed to your ride every once in a while and you'll be good
Yeah I do,after halfway through curves an going up hill,till it catches up,when it picks up speed,I slow down a bit just get a nice cruising speed,sometimes I speed up cause cars get behind if I'm going to slow,until I can pull over,some of my back roads are only 30 mph anyway cause of twity curves,when I go the back way like going in a curve downhill I usually let off throttle an let the engine break kick in to slow down unless coming to complete stop,then I'll hit breaks,it handles really well.
What’s the link to the cdi that’s in the video?
Just look up 50CC blue CDI on eBay or Amazon you will find it
Hi could you send me a link or the name of that cdi , love my bike have the same one but hate the rev limiter
The rev limiter saves your engine The only reason I'm installing it is because I don't care about my engine
What type of carburetor is it?
Did you fit a carb for 150cc gy6 scooter?
Nope there's no reason to that would be way too much fuel for the small engine without having a big bore kit
They work but they're not reliable after 1,000 me the overheat no spark been there done that so many times get a NCY REPLACEMENT MADE IN TAIWAN
What size main jet are you using?
Didn't take it apart to check I just monitored the spark plug color to see if it was good or not and it came out fine
I am running a single layer oiled foam pod on a 49cc qmb139 with a .89 main and a .033 idle jet. Workin for me during the summer, wil go to the .90 main and a .034 or .036 idle jet this winter. On punp gas (92 octane) antway...
Seems slightly lean but a good white and rosy color on the plug.
@@thehippiedog5956 93 octane
@@keithhite8687 Yes At least 92 or better. First you have no real timing adjustment and second being air cooled it needs 92 or better to keep the temps down.
I have used 103 (airplane fuel) as it is available close to my house and it helps in the summertime if you can find it. Mixing 104 octane boost will also help but you have to be careful to add the precise amount and only add it to near empty tank right (seconds) before refueling or it will eat the rubber lines up (including both vacuum and fuel lines).
Starts better and runs cooler at around 100 octane for a long highspeed run. These little 50's struggle so much everything counts.
That's why I like playing with em. The tune must be almost perfect or it'll let you know pretty quick.
i want to put a 21mm carb on my rieju mrt pro (50cc) it is an AM6 2 stroke engine. there will also be a sport exhaust (stage6 street race) do you think my engine can handle that or is it smart
That's a huge carb for A50CC... Sounds like you're gonna be getting a lot of air and a lot of gas. Most likely you'll be tampering with the jets for a long time before you get that machine homed in
@@IFixShet What will be the best carb size then?
If you got a 70cc big bore kit with a 19mm carb it would be a monster 21 is iffy I’d say 19mm would work perfect
@@jesusalvarado7337 Tnx bro💪🏼
@@Wes05 no problem💯
Hey I have this same bike ; I want to do the same thing to it because it’s runs slow ; doing this will pick up the speed ?
Speed is attained by CVT tuning and a Lager Carb
@@IFixShet I don’t know much about it lol so I have noooo clue what that it lol
@@genesisrivas7409 To be honest I wouldn't tamper with things that you don't understand then you'll just end up screwing the system up and then you'll be really upset. If you want speed take it to a shop tell them you want to go faster they will have performance kits for install. The videos I provide are more for the DIY people that have common understanding of how carburetors work and how CVT transmissions operate.
@@IFixShet ooo yea no your def right about that I wasn’t going to mess with it myself I just wanted to know if it was possible to do , since I know it’s possible I’m going to get someone to do it ; wish you where close to me cause I would’ve took it right to you lol :)
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What kind of bike is this i would like to get one
Ding dang dfsst 50
I only got to 3:32 and let me tell you I wouldn't let you work on even my crap $20 carbs. There's no way that was tighter that my kymco's that was sitting in a shed for 10 years. Gently nudged it with a flat head at an angle hitting it with the handle of a larger screwdriver, holding it in my hand. There was no reason to abuse that carb like that.
That's not a large screwdriver... That's an impact driver Specifically designed to remove carb screws. It's a good thing you wouldn't let me work on your stuff because I wouldn't take you as a customer 😁
And secondly this isn't a customer's bike this is my personal bike what I do to my personal stuff is on me 🤣 Thanks for trying to give me your opinion but first I have to value your opinion for me to care 🤣
@@IFixShet I know what an impact screwdriver is, you're still an idiot.
Wyd bro
I'm confused on your other top 5 not to do video u specifically said don't install blue cdi
As I stated in this video it's not something I like to do however I am changing the RPM output of the engine so I want to go with an timing advanced CDI
Understand that since you watch this video I have performed other modifications to the scooter it is a requirement now as I start modding that I need an advanced timing
The point I was trying to make was that do not order this kit from eBay just because it says performance put it on your scooter and expect to have more performance because people do that and it doesn't work they don't understand they're all they're doing is advancing the timing of the scooter on a stock engine which creates problems down the road unless you're modifying
@@IFixShet If you really want to advance the timing just wallow the holes on the trigger and physically move it. that is the only way to actually advance the timing on these motors. All the cdi does is try to extrapolate the trigger timing from the first few turns and then fire sooner (before the trigger passes) and although math is good, a 10 dollar cdi is not not that good at it.
Saw a vid on it but can't find it right now. This guy tried the blue and red boxes but went back to his stock cdi, elongated the holes on his trigger and used a timing light to set his advance. I've not tried it but it makes sense as the box can only anticipate and may or may not be precise while moving the trigger module forward or back is absolute.
I just thought it was interesting and probably true...
...seemed to work for him.
@@thehippiedog5956 yes you are correct it advances the CDI timing of the firing sequence which is why it's really bad for your scooter if it's not a built engine because it will either make the cylinder fire too soon or too late and then it will slam the starter clutch and create a huge clunk in your engine when trying to start it it's really bad for your motor
With all needle settings my scooter doesnt climb in revs at all. Full throttle it goes max 1500 rpm and when you let go it dies. Have you got an idea what it could be?
*and when you kick a couple of times without ignition (probably to prime) it works untill you go below 4k rpm...
I need more information what have you done with the carburetor how long has the bike been sitting without running did you buy it used from somebody else?
@@IFixShet hey, I bought it used and the previous owner said it stood still for about a year.
I changed the battery, put fresh gas in it and cleaned the carb. Tried to test drive it and it ran okay for about 2 min.
Then it started stuttering below 4k. I stopped to maybe find something wrong and when I went to start it it didn't go above 1500rpm full throttle.
After I started it multiple times (all not going higher than 1.5k) I turned it off, kicked it a couple of times and then started it full throttle. This made it climb in rpm again and I was able to keep it above 3-4k to drive home.
At home I tried adjusting the needle, it already was on the second to lowest setting, first I raised it (middle setting) then lowered it (lowest setting). Both times the engine handled the same...
It is a huatian ht50qt26 from 2008.
The jet says size 80.
@@vincehoffman179 Cleaning the carb does nothing it's time to replace the carburetor. Chinese scooter carburetors are garbage. Once they start having problems it's cheaper just to replace them
In my shed when I first started it it even ran stationairy, but before and after the two min ride it had not so much compression in my opinion compared to other 4t scooters I have owned, i havr not yet looked at the valve play, maybe thst could be a problem?
@@vincehoffman179 I'm going to pretty much promise you it's carburetor problem. The carburetors are like $6 to manufacture so they are putting the cheapest corporator on the planet in the motorcycle when they sell it. If it's sat for a year it is going to be a problematic carburetor just replace it trust me
How you know it’s not getting good fuel with no baseline .😂😂
Say what the bleep...that looks like a motorcycle..please tell me the make ,model I've gotta get me one
Yes it definitely looks like a small sport bike I'm still modifying it so if you're interested and you're thinking about buying one pay attention because I'm going to show you how to make it faster. DF50SST
I got the same bike same color lol. The dongfang x18. I hot mines from venom motorsports. Did the bigbore kit and carb, didn't get the blue cdi yet
Where go that fat line go to
Pairing system
😳 WOW 🤔 Well in this video after you put the blue CDI BOX in and the carburetor change over . Just how fast did it go in speed before you did this work on it and just how fast did it go faster you did this work on your bike?And now what do you think you have to do now to it to make it go faster than you got it going now?
Wanna make it go really fast? My suggestion is to buy a rope and have the wife or girlfriend pull you around with her car! Hehehhe...
Disclaimer all my comments are for entertainment purposes only.
And remember to read the warning stickers "do not stick fingers under the lawnmower deck while the blades are in motion".
Hehehe...
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I did this and it just bogs at full throttle now and kills it
Wrong main jet for that needle setting. May be too rich or to lean depending what throttle position you are in. Remember these needles are tapered for fuel metering. So this adjustment has many variables. I'd say you are flooding it with fuel. Try going back one or two slots. Moving that adjustment radically should give you radicle results be they be good or bad for performance.
Remember moving the needle clip to a lower slot gives you more fuel sooner and your rpm's may be loo low to burn that extra gas at that particular rpm.
My guess is it's flooding (too rich) at that setting.
Keep on scootin :-)
HD
An easy way to tell what you're doing is just take the plug out And compare it to the plug chart On Google it will tell you everything you need to know about how to tune your engine with without going through the painstaking process of just throwing jets at it and hoping for the best
IFS
@@IFixShet Agreed man... There are so many variables to carbs (like airbox or no airbox, emission controls, no emission controls, etc.) that no one solution works for every setup.
I have one scooter that has the pair system and another that has a "in header pipe" catalytic converter with a reed valve in the exhaust and no pair system.
Radically different in carb tuning procedures.
Both are new from the factory.
That's why it's impossible to do a one size fits all approach to tuning.
Keep on scootin :-)
HD
@@IFixShet Yepper and always use the proper grease on the plug threads when dealing with these things...
Aluminum heads tend to strip and these plugs are hard to start as they are deep under the air shroud. Need a proper spark plug wrench (rubber insert) with a extension and some proper grease on the plug threads if ya wanna be safe.
Great way to tune...
The plug never lies...
Just don't ever cross thread it...
Or wowsers 😞.
HD
You live in kissimmee?
Tampa
You talk about performance but yet you still have all that emissions control crap on there
🤣🤣🤣
Is this cdi ac or dc?
That depends on which model you order you can get AC and you can get DC
@@IFixShet I have the very same bike from this video
@@FREAKSHOW762X39 that doesn't mean you have the same ignition system. The bikes are all manufactured in different factories they don't all use the same parts during the installation process remember these are products of China they are mass produced in multiple warehouses.
Ok I understand. Just fot shets and giggles what did you happen to end up with?
False you always completely tear down a brand new carburetor and clean it because you never know if there are any metal burrs or anything like that inside of there half of these Amazon carburetors are from China and you just want to be safe
Yawn....okay lol
There's a cast carb guy...
Need guitar strings to poke through the holes...
got em (guitar strings :=)
And a bad casting is always bad...
...most know not what it means.
A .083 and a clogged up pilot?
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No need for the impact driver 🤦🏻♂️😂
I have stripped a lot of these cheap Chinese screws without the impact driver it makes your life a whole lot simpler and will cut out all the questioning of whether it's going to come out on the first try or not so yes if you have one use one
@@IFixShet 😂😂 it’s a 50cc ped mate nothing that uses a Phillips or flathead needs an impact driver so no u don’t need it and as proved in ur video you’ll most likely mess up ur carb when ur smacking it cuz ur not holding the carb at the same time using a normal screwdriver is much easier believe me I use a £20 socket set
@@Nowaybro420 lol I've been doing this type of work since 2002 my friend there's nothing you can tell me that will change my mind good luck bud it's a big world out there some of us like to make things simpler for other people I'll just say you're welcome and leave it at that
@@IFixShet or in ur case make work harder as ur smashing the carb around n well remind me never to bring a bike to u I’d rather set it on fire tbf 🤦🏻♂️
@@Nowaybro420 Okay.... Does this comment supposed to go somewhere or make me feel some type of way? A person on the Internet is supposed to make me feel bad? Wait a minute you mean my 5 million views and 2300 videos posted on CZcams To help people And I'm supposed to care about one lonely individual? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nice try my little Internet Warrior. You can bring a bike to whoever you want to matters not to me I'm gonna enjoy my Google adsense paycheck every month Regardless of what you think.
Thanks mate you did nothing
Your welcome 🙏
U have Facebook I have a problem with this bike
Idle is too high