Thanks brother Steve, for that message amen. When you rightly divide the word of truth, you have a better understanding of the truths contained therein. I would say you are well able in teaching these truths. Amen. Paul. Ayrshire Scotland U.K.
You can find "church father" quotes that suggest that some were premillennial. You can even find quotes of them saying "faith alone" word for word 1000 years before Luther: "And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen." Clement of Rome (the forth pope), in a letter to the Corinthians "Again, they said that he who adhered to faith alone was cursed, but he shows that he who adhered to faith alone, is blessed." John Chrysostom, Commentary on Galatians Others, like Justin Martyr, seem to have not even had access to Paul's letters. But as you said, yes, most Church Fathers do not agree with Paul on many topics. Thank you for the lesson.
"Who are the church fathers?" I was once a member of a mega Baptist church and was in what they call "small group" instead of Sunday School. One of the pastor was leading group while the class pastor was on Sabbatical. The pastor leading out group was teaching the subject "Where did Jesus go when He died". The pastor gave us a couple of verses and no more. I stopped him and ask him about a verse by Peter and ask why he didn't mention that scripture. He replied, "Oh, the Church Fathers don't allow us to talk about that scripture." I assumed he was speaking of some men in the local church. I knew right then I was in the wrong church. But who are the church fathers? Sound like they were Catholic. Why would the SBC obey the will of Catholic fathers?
@@GraceBibleAmbassadors Wow, why in the world would the SBC agree to follow these Catholic traditions. This make no sense to me. I'm happy I came out from among these false denominations several years ago. I cannot wait to receive my booklet or booklets from you.
I'll have to educate myself on that one. Haven't come across one personally. From my 5 second google search, it looks like they've decided to rip Gal 3:25 out of their Bibles....
Latin _mille_ means "thousand". People have heard the common word _century_ which refers to 100 years. Technically today we are living in the end of the second millennium, or possibly in the beginning of the 3rd, since Jesus' death and resurrection. Accurate calendars are a controversy. God's accounting of time is different than common Gentile accounting of time, as well. During God's operating through the Nation of Israel, their calendars revolved around lunar periods, rather than solar. _And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:_ Genesis 1:14 KJB
Thanks brother Steve, for that message amen. When you rightly divide the word of truth, you have a better understanding of the truths contained therein. I would say you are well able in teaching these truths. Amen.
Paul. Ayrshire Scotland U.K.
Thank you Steve.I was in err several years.
You can find "church father" quotes that suggest that some were premillennial. You can even find quotes of them saying "faith alone" word for word 1000 years before Luther:
"And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen."
Clement of Rome (the forth pope), in a letter to the Corinthians
"Again, they said that he who adhered to faith alone was cursed, but he shows that he who adhered to faith alone, is blessed."
John Chrysostom, Commentary on Galatians
Others, like Justin Martyr, seem to have not even had access to Paul's letters.
But as you said, yes, most Church Fathers do not agree with Paul on many topics.
Thank you for the lesson.
Thanks. Always a blessing.
"Who are the church fathers?" I was once a member of a mega Baptist church and was in what they call "small group" instead of Sunday School. One of the pastor was leading group while the class pastor was on Sabbatical. The pastor leading out group was teaching the subject "Where did Jesus go when He died". The pastor gave us a couple of verses and no more. I stopped him and ask him about a verse by Peter and ask why he didn't mention that scripture. He replied, "Oh, the Church Fathers don't allow us to talk about that scripture." I assumed he was speaking of some men in the local church. I knew right then I was in the wrong church. But who are the church fathers? Sound like they were Catholic. Why would the SBC obey the will of Catholic fathers?
Church fathers would be folks like Augustine, Irenaeus, Tertullian, Origen, etc..
@@GraceBibleAmbassadors Wow, why in the world would the SBC agree to follow these Catholic traditions. This make no sense to me. I'm happy I came out from among these false denominations several years ago. I cannot wait to receive my booklet or booklets from you.
I cannot tell you how many are excited to ride down with Jesus on their horse. I'm sure you know already.
Could you do a teaching on this group calling themselves " The hebrew Roots movement " is it a biblically sound movement what is it?
I'll have to educate myself on that one. Haven't come across one personally. From my 5 second google search, it looks like they've decided to rip Gal 3:25 out of their Bibles....
My class continues
Latin _mille_ means "thousand". People have heard the common word _century_ which refers to 100 years. Technically today we are living in the end of the second millennium, or possibly in the beginning of the 3rd, since Jesus' death and resurrection. Accurate calendars are a controversy. God's accounting of time is different than common Gentile accounting of time, as well. During God's operating through the Nation of Israel, their calendars revolved around lunar periods, rather than solar.
_And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:_ Genesis 1:14 KJB
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