Brian McNaught - Debates Anita Bryant Ministries - John Hasen "ex-gay" Part 1/4

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • After being fired for being gay by the Michigan Catholic newspaper in Detroit, Brian debates the head of ex-gay ministries for Anita Bryant on popular Miami TV program

Komentáře • 78

  • @bmcnaught
    @bmcnaught  Před 10 lety +16

    I want everyone who has watched this video to know how grateful I am that youmtook the time to do so, and that some of you even shared your reactions. I was just a kid when this was taped. I was in my late 20s, had been recently fired for being gay, and I found myself being asked to speak about gay issues. I ended up doungnit for forty years, but I never take for granted the gift of time people give me to talk about my experiences.

    • @danseabreeze1404
      @danseabreeze1404 Před 7 lety +2

      Brian you were (and probably still are) s'damn CUTE! : D

    • @janedoh2625
      @janedoh2625 Před 4 lety

      Aww! Thanks for sharing the vid.

    • @christopherscheiber1439
      @christopherscheiber1439 Před 2 lety

      John, i remember in the seventies, seeing anita Bryant interviewed by phil Donohue. When he brought up the subject of sexual orientation ( vs. Sexual behavior) you could see the fear in Bryant's eyes. Could it be that her subjectivly comparative sense of moral superiority was threatened? Any thoughts on my earlier comments in this thread?

    • @christopherscheiber1439
      @christopherscheiber1439 Před 2 lety

      I remember as a kid seeing anita bryant interviewed by phil Donohue. When he brought up the idea of homosexuality fundamentally being an orientation ( verses a behavior) there was a distinct fear in Bryant's eyes. Could it have been due to the fact that a more in depth, complex view of homosexuality threatened her subjectivly comparative sense of moral superiority?

    • @0808Sista
      @0808Sista Před rokem

      How long do you have to “practice” before you become a professional?

  • @jollysincere
    @jollysincere Před 12 lety +17

    I wonder how the ex-gay feels about Miss Bryant, who divorced her husband to remarry, while the first husband was alive. That same bible that he used to condemn homosexuality, condemns Miss Bryant as a adulteress! Just check out Romans 7:2&3. That would label Mr. Hasen as a hyopcrite, for choosing what SINS are okay, and which are not.

  • @bmcnaught
    @bmcnaught  Před 10 lety +9

    I tried to correct misspellings but was unable to do so. I've been educating others on lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender issues for 40 years. It's been a gift to me to do so.

  • @MEpianist
    @MEpianist Před 13 lety +10

    Brian McNaught is a fire-brand, a strong performance!

  • @Robotron90
    @Robotron90 Před 12 lety +7

    You can't give up being gay or "practice" bing gay. You are just gay just like people are just straight. same shit, leave it alone

  • @Mr1958louief
    @Mr1958louief Před 13 lety +6

    "Practicing Homosexual" we don't Practice. We are not a Sports Team. We are Humans. The Heterosexuals I guess "Practice" their sexuality. The Best Part is when the "guy" said "He" and Brian said, "Or She" tried to sidestep it placing He as meaning both Men and Women. I Love how "Religion" still make Women second class.

  • @bmcnaught
    @bmcnaught  Před 12 lety +7

    Actually, the word "gay" became popular in the 1970s in the gay community. I agree with your mom that many heterosexual people didn't become comfortable with the issue until the 1990s.

    • @Dr_JSH
      @Dr_JSH Před 4 lety +1

      I was born in 1970. When I was growing up, the word "gay" was NEVER said out loud in my house. My parents did their best to avoid the topic completely, but if it was unavoidable, they'd use the euphemism "that way," as in, "He's that way, ya know."
      Times have definitely changed for the better.
      I credit Justice Kennedy on the Supreme Court. He was a deep-red conservative in most ways, but his passion for travel brought him in contact with judges from around the world. He was close to judges on the European Court of Human Rights and the supreme courts of nations like South Africa, the United Kingdom, Austria, etc. These judges called Kennedy out for how backward in thinking the Rehnquist and Roberts courts were, so much so that US jurisprudence had lost the allure of American exceptionalism. Developing countries no longer PRESUMED the US judiciary and legislation were the best exemplars, especially on the topics of capital punishment and human rights.
      In Romer v. Evans and Lawrence v. Texas, Kennedy joined the liberal justices to declare that gays were FULLY equal to straight people and could no longer be presumed criminals by their very existence -- something #TheReligiousWhite particularly enjoyed.
      Lawrence v. Texas was especially invigorating for gays.
      Then came Windsor v. United States, which declared the federal Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional for violating the Due Process and Equal Protection Clauses of the 14th Amendment.
      And, finally, Obergefell v. Hodges, which recognized gays fundamental right to marry the person they choose.

    • @Bearcade
      @Bearcade Před 3 lety

      Heck, in the 90s I wasn’t comfortable with myself and didn’t know why I was different or how I was different.

  • @upcycle
    @upcycle Před 12 lety +7

    What ever happened with John Hasen? Brian McNaught seems to have had a successful life and relationship with his partner of 35 plus years.

    • @frejat3306
      @frejat3306 Před 4 lety +1

      Could this be him? CZcams-video:
      2016-01-17 SERMON | Rev John Hansen | Holy Trinity Lutheran Church

    • @TeeRexington
      @TeeRexington Před rokem

      Nope, the john hansen from the video passed away in 2003.

  • @revol121
    @revol121 Před 11 lety +11

    That queen John is just evil because the cute guy wont give him the time of day. If I hear the word homosexual one more time I am going to fall on the floor laughing.I am sure that John is in the gay bar now doing drag shows.

    • @tommym321
      @tommym321 Před rokem +1

      Yes, he is evil but I also feel empathy for him. He has absorbed the teachings of others- likely from an early age- that told him homosexuality was not a natural state of being. These teachings have undoubtedly caused him tremendous unhappiness.

    • @jv-ep2tc
      @jv-ep2tc Před 28 dny

      I would love to know what he is doing now

  • @jollysincere
    @jollysincere Před 12 lety +4

    he likely faded into the sunset after Miss Bryant went against biblical teachings, divorced her husband Bob Green, and remarried another man while Mr.Green was very much alive. He saw that ole Anita was just an everyday adulteress happily living and frolicking in her SINS all while condemning homosexuals. He may have even fell back into some long overdue Gay Lust!, You see with hypocrites like he & Anita, they never think that their sins will track them down.

  • @jessicarowley6010
    @jessicarowley6010 Před 4 lety +3

    Well now we the priests and nuns did act out their homosexuality

  • @chrish4309
    @chrish4309 Před 2 lety +2

    Thank you for uploading this Brian. This is my grandfather, John. I'm his granddaughter, a transgender and pansexual lady. He passed away in 2003 after a long battle with cancer when I was six.

    • @bmcnaught
      @bmcnaught  Před 2 lety +3

      Chris, there are an army of sacred souls, earthly and heavenly, who support you unconditionally. I admire and applaud your courage in affirming your true self.

    • @Valkonnen
      @Valkonnen Před rokem

      You have the similar mental condition as your Grandfather, You can be as you like, but just don't be in delusion and c consider yourself "Christian"

  • @bmcnaught
    @bmcnaught  Před 13 lety +7

    @TheStrong32 It was in 1979.

  • @raymondkymsuttle
    @raymondkymsuttle Před 5 lety +6

    The ‘practice of homosexuality’ is the practice of love.

  • @dckimchi117
    @dckimchi117 Před 13 lety +3

    he is a practicing homosexual.. practicing? nice...

  • @MrMrLemons
    @MrMrLemons Před 13 lety +3

    "Practicing homosexual"

  • @JeffersonDinedAlone
    @JeffersonDinedAlone Před 11 lety +1

    This person never said that their mother was comfortable with the issue; they said that their mother had not heard the word used in correlation to homosexuals until the 90s.

  • @davidnjonathan7
    @davidnjonathan7 Před 13 lety +2

    What happened with John Hansen (Hasen)? I did not find any info on the web. Not even google find him!! Is he alive? Is he still a "ex-gay" activist?

    • @frejat3306
      @frejat3306 Před 4 lety

      Could this be him? YT-video:
      2016-01-17 SERMON | Rev John Hansen | Holy Trinity Lutheran Church

  • @TruAgape123
    @TruAgape123 Před 12 lety +2

    That "ex-gay" didn't want to admit that homosexuals can still have the desire without acting on it cause it would mean that he too is a homosexual. Fortunately for bias Christians, there's a biased translation of scripture to suite both tastes. The NIV 1st edition condemns "homosexuals". The second edition condemns "practicing homosexuals". So see, when you change scripture the first time, you feel less guilty when you change it the second time. It's not like the Greek ever mattered in the fi

  • @leahparrilla2706
    @leahparrilla2706 Před 7 měsíci

    This kid was soooo brave. Anita Bryants grand daughter is getting married. Never heard of her so I came to CZcams. OMG.

    • @bmcnaught
      @bmcnaught  Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thank you, Leah. I’m not totally sure where my confidence came from, but in my upcoming memoir I credit my family, faith, and maybe DNA. I’m now celebrating 50 years of full time work as an educator on LGBTQ issues. I’ve got gray hair but the fire is still there.

  • @goodgirlkay
    @goodgirlkay Před 13 lety +1

    The "ex-gay" is upset because if homosexual is used in it's proper term to include anyone who has sexual desires for persons of the same gender, then he would have to conclude that he isn't actually "ex-gay". I wonder where this man is today! I would love to know how his life turned out!

  • @dickstueland4009
    @dickstueland4009 Před 9 měsíci

    Remember the Bible was written at a time when most of Europe was in the stone age.

  • @MsNooneinparticular
    @MsNooneinparticular Před 4 lety +2

    lol @ "practicing homosexual". Like it's a career or smtg. A person is a "practicing podiatrist" or "practicing orthodontist..." Not a "practicing homosexual." It's called being your authentic self rather than living a lie & dragging some innocent straight person into your deception.

  • @dickstueland4009
    @dickstueland4009 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’ve known as friend six Catholic religious Everyone practicing. Celibacy is not even realistic. Sexuality is expression of Love Flush these oddballs down and out.

    • @bmcnaught
      @bmcnaught  Před 9 měsíci

      I agree, Dick. It ought to be optional for those who feel the need for abstinence. Otherwise, celebrate sexuality as a possible wonderful means of expressing love and/or sharing intimacy.

  • @rodolfoerdogan4983
    @rodolfoerdogan4983 Před rokem

    A practicing homosexual. Well, you know what they say:
    How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice practice practice!

  • @gavi7627
    @gavi7627 Před 11 lety

    That was one of the worst digressions I'ver ever seen. From homosexuality to the proper use of pronouns. Wow.

  • @electraglide9357
    @electraglide9357 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm John Hansen with Dateline NBC, please take a seat and explain why you brought legos and pizza for a 12 year old boy! 👦 Okay, you're free to leave but cops will pummel your a$$ in the driveway on your way out!...lolz

  • @PeterShieldsukcatstripey

    John Hansen was making a good point about using the term him as a pronoun to mean all in the common langauge and Shirley Peters was not listening to him. Very unprofessional on her part.

  • @tommym321
    @tommym321 Před rokem +1

    As abhorrent as the garbage views and teachings of “John” are, I feel empathy for him. He is a self denying and self loathing gay man, which makes me incredibly sad. I’m sure that his internalization of such garbage has caused him tremendous unhappiness (and of course, he in turn has caused unhappiness in others). And I say that as just some middle aged white heterosexual guy in case that matters

    • @bmcnaught
      @bmcnaught  Před rokem

      Thanks, Tommy. You’re right. It always breaks my heart when I see a guy with his wife but his eyes glued on another guy in the restaurant. I never stayed in touch with John, but not long ago heard from his lesbian granddaughter that he finally came out before his death. You’re a perceptive man.

  • @peteraschaffenburg1
    @peteraschaffenburg1 Před rokem

    0:24 "A practicing homosexual"

  • @hijack3
    @hijack3 Před 4 lety +1

    This debate is poorly driven. Key questions are not asked, The "dignity" guy is dominating.... I dont think this has much value

  • @TruAgape123
    @TruAgape123 Před 12 lety

    (cont) in the first place, right?

  • @davidnjonathan7
    @davidnjonathan7 Před 13 lety

    @RodTalon00 No, it is hard to despair like that with today's technology, I am impressed

  • @aimperator
    @aimperator Před 11 lety +1

    Does anyone know if shirley Spellerberg still hosts this show, or what she's doign today? I remember seeing her on Good Morning America a few times,she takes the role of such a good Christain here, but she is oen of the most full of hate people I have ever seen.

  • @danseabreeze1404
    @danseabreeze1404 Před 7 lety +1

    "A hamasexshual"

  • @speedx50
    @speedx50 Před 13 lety

    everyone here is saying the word homosexual and not the word gay, did that word not exist back then?

  • @GreatReplacement
    @GreatReplacement Před 2 lety

    I am an ex gay

  • @johnjohnston7580
    @johnjohnston7580 Před 11 lety

    for the purpose of clarification...little miss tubby on the left was the one who queried john's use of "his" ...then tried to blame him for taking issue with what SHE wanted to say!
    listen again folks and hear for yorself