The Two Mindsets That Can KILL Your Startup

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  • čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
  • Dalton Caldwell and Michael Seibel discuss the qualities that make a founder overly optimistic or far too pessimistic about their startup. Where is the right middle ground?
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    Chapters (Powered by bit.ly/chapterme-yc) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:30 - Stereotypes
    03:09 - The Two Leaders
    05:45 - Pessimistic mistakes
    06:28 - Expectation setting
    07:14 - Faulty feedback
    08:24 - Demo day goals
    09:20 - Energy drain
    11:22 - Magical thinking
    14:23 - Founder mistakes
    16:03 - Product mistakes
    17:43 - Magical investors
    18:41 - Hiring optimism
    19:57 - Doing what's cool
    21:46 - Cognitive dissonance
    #startups #entrepreneur #tech
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Komentáře • 120

  • @ycombinator
    @ycombinator  Před rokem +16

    How do you develop a realistic view of your startup?

    • @singh.deepak
      @singh.deepak Před rokem +1

      If we exactly know whats working out and what's not.

    • @arjungupta-inventor-iaq
      @arjungupta-inventor-iaq Před rokem +2

      Unplug and try to watch from a distance. Have a few trusted friends who know some about your domain and ask them the right questions. Not questions like will I succeed.

    • @cryptonative
      @cryptonative Před rokem +2

      @@singh.deepak If you have customers paying is working. If people are telling their friends or collegues is also working.

    • @entertainmentyoutube3606
      @entertainmentyoutube3606 Před rokem

      the more solid the idea and execution are, the fewer problems you will encounter, nomad list was profitable from the beginning

    • @chaitanyavaidya7783
      @chaitanyavaidya7783 Před rokem +1

      Pick a growth metric and stick to it

  • @JasonGoodison
    @JasonGoodison Před rokem +17

    Didn't realize the "100 emails doesnt convert to 100 leads" problem was common. The second you said it I realized I fit solidly into that category

  • @chapterme
    @chapterme Před rokem +35

    Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) -
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:30 - Stereotypes
    03:09 - The Two Leaders - Who would you want to work for?
    05:45 - Pessimistic mistakes
    06:28 - Expectation setting
    07:14 - Faulty feedback
    08:24 - Demo day goals
    09:20 - Energy drain - Gave up too early
    11:22 - Magical thinking - Optimism is hard
    14:23 - Startups - Founder mistakes
    16:03 - Product mistakes
    17:43 - Magical investors
    18:41 - Hiring optimism
    19:57 - Doing what's cool
    21:46 - Having balance - Cognitive dissonance

  • @kevinopati5784
    @kevinopati5784 Před rokem +9

    Really hard to find a wiser duo in the startup world. Thank you for everything.

  • @BrendanDell
    @BrendanDell Před rokem +7

    Brilliant topic of discussion, it's the yin and yang of both being grounded in the task ahead but believing that your idea and business have a future that is valuable and worthy of your time and energy. Seibel's comment on the purpose of goals not necessarily being to nail the goal but giving you the drive and the valuable lessons it teaches you along the way- couldn't have said it better. Definitely going to be sharing this with my community. Thank you!

  • @GauravSharma1
    @GauravSharma1 Před rokem +22

    What a fantastic episode. Can so much relate to this. Holding multiple realities in the head and still being an optimist is a super-power.

  • @bowlerkid
    @bowlerkid Před rokem

    Guys, thanks for putting this up! I it’s really helps battle the magical, thinking, as well as the overreliance on pessimism to wish you towards reality.

  • @oldewolf5275
    @oldewolf5275 Před rokem +2

    Great stuff. We (Olde Wolf) applied for this winter batch because of these videos (I hadn't heard of Y Combinator beforehand. I know, shame on me). Your buddy, Justin, also seems like he balances helpfulness with personability as well!
    Cheers, guys.

  • @juanmdq
    @juanmdq Před rokem +1

    Wow! I'm in a stage where this video is just what I needed! Thank u guys!

  • @randy4ii411
    @randy4ii411 Před rokem

    Love your talks guys. I good “startup compass” is very useful when you feel a bit like you are in a possibility wilderness.

  • @dereklough1815
    @dereklough1815 Před rokem +2

    It's so exciting to watch my ego be dismantled in realtime. Thanks for the straight-talk.

  • @derek-yap
    @derek-yap Před rokem +10

    Yup, I feel like a lot of CEOs I've worked for are afraid of not being optimistic when addressing the company at an all-hands or something. To me that always seemed a little disingenuous. Like we're not kids, we know layoffs aren't good, why are you telling us this is actually a good thing. In fact most employees at tech companies are highly intelligent. Just be real.

  • @yafiwala
    @yafiwala Před rokem +42

    Growing a Start-up is like Motherhood where you got both emotions daily what if my child(start-up) won't be able to make it and my child(start-up) is going to survive because I'll nurture it. But, it's a beautiful experience just like Motherhood.

  • @georgeopiyo6004
    @georgeopiyo6004 Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks guys you are amazing ! You are impacting so many lives than you can even imagine . Thanks long life and health to you two

  • @mahdi5796
    @mahdi5796 Před rokem

    Insightful as always. Please keep the wonderful serie of conversations

  • @aaronb2551
    @aaronb2551 Před rokem +1

    I like the "cognitive dissonance" part of it. Thanks for enunciating that.

  • @StreamAgency
    @StreamAgency Před rokem +7

    This video offended me both as a pessimist and an optimist; Realists always suffer the most.

  • @whatisrokosbasilisk80
    @whatisrokosbasilisk80 Před rokem +1

    Wow, this was insanely valuable - I never suspected that I, a perpetual cynic, would actually be too optimistic!

  • @MikeWilliamsYoroomie
    @MikeWilliamsYoroomie Před rokem +1

    Such a great conversation and keep these coming!

  • @catwithacowboyhat
    @catwithacowboyhat Před rokem +1

    I love this series! Keep it up please!

  • @ShoaibMahmudOfficial
    @ShoaibMahmudOfficial Před měsícem

    Be optimistic, but don't be too magically optimistic! It feels great to learn directly from you.

  • @josephekpaha
    @josephekpaha Před rokem +2

    Seems you're some kinda startup Knowledge gods. Everything said well enough and perfect 👌

  • @zetendra
    @zetendra Před rokem

    thank you, it's such a wonderful episode

  • @george_davituri
    @george_davituri Před 10 měsíci

    quote: ''you need to get in before everyone thinks it's cool'', brilliant advice. great talk

  • @rossnwilliams
    @rossnwilliams Před rokem +2

    I have a subwoofer and this video has a lot of bursts of sound around 30Hz to 40Hz. I suggest you add a low-cut filter.

  • @jimifash
    @jimifash Před rokem +4

    Cognitive dissonance!
    Be rooted in reality!
    Priceless gems 👌

  • @rockbaby411
    @rockbaby411 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Wild they used a chatbot as an example and said "it was over" - this video came out two months before ChatGPT - shows that even these guys with past success can't predict the future

  • @nidhi2581
    @nidhi2581 Před rokem

    You guys are so goood!!! Looking forward to your next video.

  • @AnomalyHQ
    @AnomalyHQ Před 5 měsíci

    These videos are great, thanks for recording and sharing these

  • @mjmikaelson
    @mjmikaelson Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for sharing this episode gentlemen! I really appreciate it So much! 😊

  • @anirudhm
    @anirudhm Před rokem

    Thanks for doing this!

  • @israeldavid3553
    @israeldavid3553 Před rokem

    Having a vision for your startup, working on the small and big issues. Always being focused and be willing to start small whilst thinking big.

  • @gogemusicimprov4421
    @gogemusicimprov4421 Před rokem

    LOL 1:34 Dalton said Eeyore, but I heard Eol and was impressed he read and referenced silmarillion.

  • @HarisKhan-bh6uj
    @HarisKhan-bh6uj Před rokem

    great episode !!

  • @entertainmentyoutube3606

    9 of 10 businesses fail so you have to be a little crazy to be an entrepreneur and keep trying after every punch but the reward is so fking good that is worth it

  • @yaelfelicia5820
    @yaelfelicia5820 Před 5 měsíci

    Literally the best videos on the Tube for founders - you guys rock. 💪🏽

  • @serkanuz
    @serkanuz Před rokem +7

    I think I am not too optimistic about every subject. But, I am too optimistic about hiring. Being too optimistic, maybe doesn't mean you are too optimistic about every subject. Amazing video, thanks for clarifying all these subjects.

    • @LazizbekYusupov92
      @LazizbekYusupov92 Před rokem +1

      Manda ham shunday odat bor. Bir marta ko’plab odamlarni sihga olishga mas’ul qilindim. Oxiri ko’pchiligi ishni eplay olmay, orqamga pichoq urdi. Bu darsdan keyin odam tanlashda ehtiyotroq bo’ldim.

  • @curiouscarbon1181
    @curiouscarbon1181 Před rokem

    Really like the moving topics format of your videos! Does someone edit the videos and add them manually or do you use some software to generate them?

    • @ycombinator
      @ycombinator  Před rokem +3

      Zach, the video producer here. These are edited in Adobe Premiere. We custom made an Essential Graphics package that allow us to easily duplicate and edit these lists for each video.

  • @chargreen1742
    @chargreen1742 Před 3 měsíci

    This was so encouraging to go forward and apply to YC

  • @AlexCookaacook
    @AlexCookaacook Před rokem

    Fantastic, thanks!

  • @arjungupta-inventor-iaq
    @arjungupta-inventor-iaq Před rokem +4

    Being rational and not far on either sides is the goal! Good to know you guys see pessimist founders often. I always thought founders are all stars in the eyes always optimistic

  • @lboogy1708
    @lboogy1708 Před rokem

    Best of both worlds, every entrepreneurs should learn how to wear both hats from day 1 and welcome the reality to judge

  • @singh.deepak
    @singh.deepak Před rokem

    Great Conversation. 🙂✌👍

  • @CaliforniaRussianRiverBees

    Great Information 🕹💻 thank you Gentlemen🎙I tell people 🏆🏆The law of averages will kick in if you knock on enough doors. You guys are great telling the truth 🫵🏼🍾🎉💵💵💰💰

  • @sivashankarimurugesan7120
    @sivashankarimurugesan7120 Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you.guys...its very useful😊

  • @adarshalt1161
    @adarshalt1161 Před rokem +3

    Balance is key.

  • @justingirard7476
    @justingirard7476 Před rokem

    The wider the psychological range, the more analytical concepts (optimistic and pessimistic) a person can use to frame reality. This is a muscle, and I have a process to enter both states, and it is a critical import toolset

  • @engr-lynx
    @engr-lynx Před rokem

    Great episode! But I dislike the resolution that one needs cognitive dissonance to be in a balance. It suggests that pessimism-optimism is binary. When in fact, it's a spectrum. Furthermore, you can be at different points of that spectrum for various situations. In fact, the ability to apply the correct amount means you're a realist.
    They say that a pessimist sees the glass as half empty while the optimist sees it as half full. But I'd add to that that the realist just sees a glass that needs to be filled or emptied depending on the desired outcome.

  • @michaelmcwhirter
    @michaelmcwhirter Před 2 měsíci

    This is one of the greatest videos you guys made!

  • @christopherjskinner
    @christopherjskinner Před 6 měsíci

    Results driven systems thinker startup mindset of leadership is what gets you to success.

  • @benditovicentecosta1710
    @benditovicentecosta1710 Před rokem +1

    Summing up what I did get:
    Aim to the stars, and get to the moon

  • @jaredbeckwith
    @jaredbeckwith Před rokem +1

    Have a right balance of pessimism and optimism!

  • @andgo
    @andgo Před rokem

    What would be better?, to think of yourself as an optimistic (but not overly optimistic) person or as an objective (or realistic) person?

  • @James-mk8jp
    @James-mk8jp Před rokem +4

    Founders have no choice but to be optimistic.

  • @shermanmcdermott4211
    @shermanmcdermott4211 Před rokem

    what advice would you give to a startup in an extremely technical space? a B2B product that is not intended for the mass market? is it a good idea to only talk about the benifet, and gloss over the technical detail that makes it realistic, or is it a better idea to 'dumb it down' to be easily digestible?

  • @alexf7414
    @alexf7414 Před rokem +2

    A pessimistic sees a u-turn at every intersection, an optimistic runs the red light most of the time.

  • @Okeh_Emmanuel
    @Okeh_Emmanuel Před rokem +2

    ...and the ultimate Reality is, users and payimg customers

  • @AmarAmte6644
    @AmarAmte6644 Před rokem

    The planets are aligning haha. Rainbows and Ponies omg haha

  • @kdietz65
    @kdietz65 Před rokem +1

    On the pessimistic thinking side, this is exactly why I don't like Lean Startup. It sets too high of expectations on the early feedback cycle and makes you vulnerable to overly pessimistic thinking. If prospects don't immediately hit an aha moment, if they don't throw rose petals at your feet right away, then according to Lean Startup you're supposed to do what? Give up? Or pivot too early? It just doesn't make any sense. It encourages you to let the tail wag the dog and make decisions that are too big based on too little early feedback. I've definitely been waved off of very good ideas because the people I talked to didn't get it right away. Getting very early feedback that is also accurate is quite difficult to do in my experience. You're better off following your intuitions and doing general market research on the Internet vs. talking directly to people. You can talk to people if you want, just don't make any actual decisions based on what they say.

    • @juanmdq
      @juanmdq Před rokem +1

      Balance is the key here...there are. No manuals ..

  • @briank624
    @briank624 Před rokem

    Magical thinking comes from business school and media. No one starts with the answer. We stumble through. 20/20 narrative is great

  • @waxcomb
    @waxcomb Před rokem +2

    Is Michael on the blood transfusion program Peter Theil is on. Skin is so luminous

  • @diegoallcore
    @diegoallcore Před rokem +2

    1:42 my dog stepped on a bee?

  • @sebastianlueders6399
    @sebastianlueders6399 Před rokem +1

    Somehow I think I jump from pessimist to optimist on a daily basis... Startup life is way more volatile than advertised

  • @woodsdog22
    @woodsdog22 Před rokem

    Jump into and check the OARBED mindset. A lot of the things discussed here are to do with the wrong mindset. But if you need something to live by and that is easy and actionable, check it out. It’s powerful and the team can lean into it really easily.

  • @quasa0
    @quasa0 Před rokem +1

    Dalton feels a bit anxious in this video. And all of us (I'm not the only one right?) do frequently. Could you share your advice on how do you deal with anxiety and bad mood / etc periods that are constantly coming up? I did see the founders habits video with some advice on this, but I feel like you have more ideas to share, especially from your experience with founders

  • @angcil88
    @angcil88 Před rokem +1

    Used to be very optimistic, now I'm pretty much a skeptic.. slightly pessimistic sometimes lmao

  • @jungtarcph
    @jungtarcph Před 11 měsíci

    This made me laugh.... Remember Alan Greenspan as head of FED in 1999 when he just thought there was some magical new economy 🤣🤣😂😂😊😊🙌🙌

  • @chumaggots666
    @chumaggots666 Před rokem

    what about pessimism of strength?

  • @thetrends5670
    @thetrends5670 Před rokem

    🖤

  • @angiekarasek
    @angiekarasek Před rokem

    What about optimistic people who are over thinkers?

  • @dominicwood3750
    @dominicwood3750 Před 3 měsíci

    How come SV tends to only fund book smart people? The business world is full of people who aren’t academics.

  • @entalpa
    @entalpa Před rokem

    There are people who don't need Michael to build a good startup and there are people who need Michael the build a good startup and there are people that even with help of Michael can't build a good startup. Where do you fit?

  • @gabormilisics6853
    @gabormilisics6853 Před rokem +1

    Good content but please say "like" a bit less frequently

  • @redditrecap7
    @redditrecap7 Před rokem

    I am overly pessimistic, what should I do.

    • @juanmdq
      @juanmdq Před rokem

      Set realistic expectations ;)

  • @amirMahmed
    @amirMahmed Před rokem

    I Am Very Optemistic Guy

  • @BrianMartensOfficial
    @BrianMartensOfficial Před rokem +1

    Heroin vs. Cocaine.

    • @leonsvideos
      @leonsvideos Před rokem +1

      that's why I go for the balance in the middle: Crack

  • @danielbeltran5020
    @danielbeltran5020 Před rokem +1

    what is all those cringe laughs guys haha, other than that, very good talk!!

  • @d7ffab979
    @d7ffab979 Před rokem

    16:45

  • @knyansa1569
    @knyansa1569 Před 9 měsíci

    I am ambimistic

  • @cryptonative
    @cryptonative Před rokem

    Who’s eeyore?

    • @rickhmason
      @rickhmason Před rokem

      A character from the Winnie the Pooh book series. He is generally described as pessimistic and depressed all the time.

    • @cryptonative
      @cryptonative Před rokem +1

      @@rickhmason I see. In my language they name him Gary for some reason!

  • @abdulazizalanazi5822
    @abdulazizalanazi5822 Před 6 měsíci

    When I first saw the thumbnail I thought Michael was announcing being gay 💀

  • @d7ffab979
    @d7ffab979 Před rokem

    11:30

  • @chumaggots666
    @chumaggots666 Před rokem

    I just wanna die a victorious death

  • @ollydix
    @ollydix Před rokem

    I think you got confused between pessimistic and depressed 😂

  • @yamilletrivas8041
    @yamilletrivas8041 Před 6 měsíci

    Your definition of magical thinking should be called "delusional thinking" because magical thinking is definitely not that lol. (Although I want to see Michael at the airport and get funded etc etc lol!

  • @MrNewAmerican
    @MrNewAmerican Před měsícem

    Please don’t giggle. You’re not a teenage girl and this is not a teenage sitcom.

  • @bernardmomanyinyagaka1051

    "Oh we have this big problem in the company, and we think hiring a marketing person or sales person will come and solve the biggest problem in the company that we ourselves haven't figured how to solve"
    This is hilarious, talking to us😂😂

  • @mcano3375
    @mcano3375 Před rokem +2

    Jesus-Christ est le Fils de Dieu. Fils de l'Homme, et l'image de Dieu. il sauve ceux qui croit en lui.
    lisez la bible surtout le nouveau testament

  • @allenmandikutse
    @allenmandikutse Před rokem +1

    Tarpit ideas 😑

  • @alok1
    @alok1 Před rokem

    So insighful

  • @rahulnath1912
    @rahulnath1912 Před rokem

    dalton what's your address? I gotta send you a mic, dude

  • @CaliforniaRussianRiverBees

    Great Information. Build good relationships to execute and hopefully the Ideas are good, put testing is better. Love what you do💼 thank you🏌