Palmers Green and Southgate in the 1950's
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- This was filmed as you will see from the credits by John Chard the owner for many years of CameraCraft in Green Lanes where I bought all of my cameras, films, sadly with the digital age they are long gone.
I hope everyone enjoys the nostalgia of this film of a bygone time.
Wonderful post, thanks for sharing. I was brought up in Southgate (lived there from 1963-76), and it was a lovely place to live. A different place now, of course, and a different world.
I will now cry myself to sleep.
Now....driving or parking in both are a nightmare,littered with Banks,food,and charity shops.It would appear that Wet fish/fish and chip/Boot repair/Shoe shop/Clothes shop,Hardware shop/Haberdashery shop/Lyons Tea shop/Camping shop/Electrical shop/Hobby shop/Butcher shop/TV/HIFI shop/Car accessory shop/Fruit and veg shop/Toy shop...to name but a few that have disappeared over the years as trends change? ( sometimes not for the better) Thank you for posting this little gem of my local area,where I was brought up.
....you forgot to mention the 'thriving' Betting Shops which Enfield Council thinks we need more of - seeing how many of THEM they have been okayed to open up in Palmers Green.
I was brought up in Southgate moving there at the age of 3 months in 1951. I lived in Morton Way close to Arnos Park and attended Walker Primary School at the top of Walker Hill. What a fabulous nostalgic journey this film is for me. I recognised so many of the places shown and it brought back some wonderful memories. I guess I didn't know or appreciate just how wonderful the area was at the time I lived there. Fantastic.
Nice to see this. My mother worked at Camera Craft and met my father at Gateway Films. She had many happy memories of these times.
Thank you for making this video available to all who have fond memories of Palmers Green and Southgate. My father died three days before you posted this film and I am lucky enough to have found his copy of the same video. When we visited Broomfield House my father would read the information on the ground floor whilst we children went off to see the stuffed animals and Alice. I would be interested to read the information that was available in Broomfield House.
I lived in Palmers Green for many years' till' i got married to my italian wife and moved back to Abruzzo on the coast! O must say that i loved the area from Wood green to Enfield Town, where i got married with my English teacher Wife! I've got a simple question for you! Has anything to do Broom-Field wih Grain, pastry, bread??? As in Albanian "broom" means exactly this! Perhaps with Hovis, lovely bread??? Sorry for my gramatical errors!!! Thank you
I live in Bounds Green and know Southgate well. Thanks for this video, simpler times with hardly any traffic.
Interesting to see how beautifully well kept Broomfield Park and the ponds were back then. The boating pond is a disgrace now because the Council can't be bothered to clean it properly anymore.
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its a labour borough now and the fact the boating pond is a disgrace is considered as levelling down by them
Wonderful memories
Thank you for showing these old films from the good old day, I loved in new Southgate but i had a wonderful in these parks, keep up the old work in showing these wonderful good old films, once again, thank you.
I was brought up in Southgate and lived there in Morton Way from 1934 to about 1954 when I started my National Service. This led to me being sent overseas. Our house backed onto Arnos Park. I 10:11 recall many hours of childhood play in that park and also Broomfield Park.
Many thanks for posting this. It's a little before my time (I was born in 1950) but I went to MInchenden Grammar School from 1961 to 1968. Many of the other sights are were familiar to me eg from running around Grovelands Park in school games lessons, and the Woodman and Cherry Tree pubs.
Thank y ou. for posting this I grew up in The M all Sou thgate
and went to Walker school.I p layed in Grovelands prk, Broomf ield park,Oakamds park and arnos park. iwent to T ri nit y Gra!mar school Ted Ray lived in Broadwalk.
Superb footage and so many happy memories Paul. Thank you !
I used to play in Broomfield Park, and fish with bamboo sticks wire and hook. The parky...or Park Keeper would always be on patrol. Great days
I grew up here and went to Minchenden. I remember my mum taking me for walks down Blagdens Lane - there were horses in the fields. It wasn't that long ago but I'm afraid the area has gone downhill since then. We had time and space in those days and life was far less hectic than it is now. Very sad.
Excellent film and information. Thank you
When England was England how I wish I was back there
thank you for sharing this its nice to see how Southgate was. Shame it isn't like it now
It's been destroyed Sharky like the whole borough has by over development and overcrowding. How we allow the Councils to do this is beyond belief! Are they still planing on building that huge school on the Green Belt field site. I've seen the plans, it's unbelievable. They have dedicated part of the field as a nature reserve.... I kid you not, you couldn't make it up if you tried!
enjoyed this very much , thank you
I have a photo somewhere of me in the Winchmore Hill wolf cubs, taken in 1951, by Camera Craft. My Father was a friend of someone who worked there, I remember going to the studio and watching him develop and print photographs. He used to play cricket for the Winchmore Hill Cricket Club as did my Dad, Im sorry but forget his name.
It's uncanny, the architecture is largely unchanged. It's the fashion and mannerisms that have vastly altered. Those whispy haired gentlemen with horn-rimmed glasses you don't see anymore. Ah heady days.
I don't think you can call the Scottish "immigrants"!
Michael Johns
....sorry...but who mentioned Scottish people - immigrant or not on this thread???????
Fascinating ...
Paul Downes this is a marvellous film and a delightful walkthrough places I've regularly visited with my children, albeit 30 plus years from being made. Regularly used Cameracraft from the mid 80's onwards until digital saw an end to films :-( The jewel in the crown for me are the stained glass panels in the Memorial garden which watching this film, is the first time I've seen them as plain coloured panels now stand in there place. Would you happen to have any photographs of all three panels as The Friends of Broomfield Park have received a grant to refurbish the garden but only the central panel can be seen ? Kind Regards, Grahame.
Oh God, I lived here some years ago. Was closer to the gas station by the A406. Oakwood drive. There was a mosque there at that time. NOt sure if its still there.I remember the "Inn on the green", the library and ofcourse "safeways" which became Morrisons. I remember the william hill and ladbrokes and the braclays branch and the mcdonalds etc. Lovely place. The albanians moved in and I have to say the place became rather iffy what with them hanging out at the wialliam hill and ladbrokes and abrupt eruption of violence between them etc.
Well you’re a fucking racist,
@@cars.796 aww did that hurt you mate? Did you go crying to mummy?
this I am assuming was before the re drawing of Borough boundaries which included the creation of the London Borough of Enfield
Did athletics at the running track around 79-81&played in the Middlesex Cup final u17 final on the pitch there.
16:10 Southgate station: 60 years hence at 10:50pm in 2010 a woman will tell me to "fuck off" for enquiring when the 121 is due.Great Scott...
He was the owner of CameraCraft the most prominent photography business in the area, they had many clever people there. It was managed by John Tomlins for many years.
Fascinating stuff. I was raised in Southgate N14 from 1984 onwards. But how on earth did the cameraman get hold of a colour video camera in 1950!? Anybody know?
He didn't and couldn't. This was obviously made on 16mm colour film.
Rural No Longer. My Mother used to queue up at Tom Maish's toy shop in Bowes Road for Dinky toys for me, around 1948 / 49
With the council place it's still looking like that now although they have finished changing it
Shame it was cut off at the end
There is a Part 2!
I lived in Palmers Green, on the borders of Southgate for years, and i love the area up to Enfield Town, where i got married 20 years ago and moved to Abruzzo on the coast line with my wife ( english teacher) Knowing that this north side of London is closely to Hovis Family, grain, pattisserie, bread, baking producers, i've got a question! Has anything to do Broom-Field with the "Wood" used for mixing the "Paste" of bread??? Before we separate on equal portions and Cook it on the oven? Simply because on my mother languagge, Albanian it's exactly what it means! Broom-Brum=paste!!! Thank you
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I think Enfield Council Parks Dept hope Broomfield House will 'fall down' of its own accord seeing as they've done NOTHING to help restore it . It stands there (just about) looking like an enormous Carbuncle in this once pretty park since attempts were made to burn it down.
I agree . Then they can sell it off for luxury flats no doubt . I cannot believe they cant raise the money to restore it with the number of people who remember it so well . Used to spend a lot of time in the park and museum ...happy days !!
It seems extraordinary that the old borough could afford to buy the land for all those parks at a time when the population of Southgate was quite small and now with all the extra people and dwellings and high council tax the money can't be found to restore the lovely old house.
RIP England
England died in 1066 check your history books anything after that was just a bonus
I thought this was a Gateway Film??
not one UPVC winndow in sight. looks much better than the array of UPVC windows we have today
What does UPVC mean / stand for? I don't know.
i lived in palmers green 6 years the park atleast not danger at all which is the safety reasons behind that because of me old after i watched this i loved it back in that time i wish it could be liked that now the park sadly got ruined also there are rude people is well indeed
Lol now chavy af
Wouldn't call southgate chavy. It's hardly council
The narrator's voice is seriously affected & unpleasant to listen to.
Obviously you have no idea how the English used to speak. It is not like all the immigrants now who speak street talk.
@@johnalex7078 Yes I take your point, but the narrator's voice is like many other's of the time who all seem to emmulate what they considered to be “proper speak, i.e. BBC speak“. No one speaks like this now.
@@kungazopa2831 and we are worse off for it. Silly arse!
@kungazopa2831 accents evolve and change as a result of mass media and immigration and generally fluidity in society. Today we have Thames Estuary English.
Lovely accent to listen to in comparison to the street trash we have to listen to today.