Advanced Dungeons & Dragons A Get Started Guide
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Never played Advanced Dungeons & Dragons but thinking about checking it out? Did you play as a kid and are thinking about playing it again with your kids or friends? Coming from 5e and want to know what the deal is? Been a Pathfinder 1 and 2 player and never really played AD&D? Do you just absolutely love the original old school RPG? This video is for you.
Links to everything
Player's Handbook (*.pdf or print on demand as hardback)
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Dungeons Master's Guide (*.pdf or print on demand as hardback)
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Monster Manual I (*.pdf or print on demand as hardback)
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Fiend Folio (*.pdf or print on demand as a softcover)
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Monster Manual II (*.pdf only)
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World of Greyhawk -includes *.pdf of Darlene's classic map
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Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide (*.pdf only)
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Forgotten Realms Atlas by the late Karen Wynn Fonstad
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Got some 5e'ers actually ready to go old school in my new world build once current campaign is finished, Sooo looking forward to it!
That's awesome! Be sure and capture that old school Greyhawk or Forgotten Realms sense of story and adventure!
Don't forget magic items are FUN, so be sure and dig through your Dungeon Master's Guide and pick out really special items for your players!
Last tip: Restrict yourself to Fiend Folio monsters. it will make you more creative!
How did it go?
@@Classic_DM It is going GREAT! They were a little chuffed about not having 50+ juiced up lvl 1 races and they found out 5e had nerfed a lot of monsters but we've been rolling for, well since before Thanksgiving and they are really enjoying the challenge and flavor! None of them had ever been thru several of these old school adventures which has been awesome and I'm having an absolute blast running them, White Plume has been a big highlight!
@@Snoil Awesome! Be sure and check out my White Plume Mountain DM's guide!
czcams.com/play/PL4eDfZIBxlUaz1D5IcOB2T9CKne2ekMTZ.html
@@Classic_DM Just building a new crew (they came to me, they are mine precious! lol) so yeah heading there soon!
Moldvay Basic (BX) page B61:
PLAYING SURFACE: Combats are easy to keep track of when
large sheets of graph paper, covered with plexiglass or transparent
adhesive plastic (contact paper), are used to put the figures on. The
best sheets for this use have 1" squares, and the scale of 1" = 5'
should be used when moving the figures. With water-based
markers or grease pencils, an entire room or battle can be drawn in
just a few seconds. When the battle is over, the board may be
wiped off, leaving it ready for the next combat.
It's always worth remembering that AD&D was intended to be played as an open table style of game, with more players playing the campaign as a whole than can necessarily sit at the table in any one session, with multiple parties in the same world potentially adventuring in the same places at different times. It was expected that most players would eventually have two or three active characters, so while one was spending time training for a new level or healing from injuries sustained in the last adventure (or even just out of play until other characters catch up with them chronologically), another could be played.
Of course, how a game is played and how it's intended to be played are different things.
AD&D changed everything, despite some of its goofy numbers for movement and combat time.
5e measures everything in feet. 1e measures movement in feet within confined spaces such as dungeons. However its measured in yards outdoors. If the base movement of a human is 12 feet in a dungeon, then it is 36 feet outdoors.
In 5e the range of a longbow is up to 150 feet indoors, or outside. 1e the range is 70 feet indoors, and 210 feet outside. 5e uses a disadvantage attack rolls for maximum range of 600 feet. Meanwhile, 1e uses a -5 to attack roll modifier. When firing to hit a a target from a maxium range of 210 feet indoors, or 630 feet outside.
I kinda know why there are no comments here. As a AD&D player since Dec. 1978, I still remember how to to play this . I am retired and living in the town where I learned how to play, and I figured that there would be kindred souls, here... but I was wrong. And people look at me funny when I mention playing AD&D.
I thank you for your effort on this project.
Us old school folks have limited time to dork around on CZcams maybe. Still, AD&D is amazing and fun.
@@Classic_DM The nostalgia is weak on these people.
Man, get online and get playing again! I've used Fantasy Grounds for the last 12 years or so... play 3 nights a week.
@@PeterNorthsLeftTesticle I loved Foundry VTT until the latest release that killed all my PDFs.
@@PeterNorthsLeftTesticle working my way to that.
Nothing wrong with House Rules. It's what makes the D&D world go round.
The hardest part of getting new players to play 1st edition AD&D, is getting them to realize "this is the game" (show them the 3 books), and make them understand, they only need the PHB. And there won't be any other books (for the players). Not many races, not many classes but most importantly 1st level is very dangerous. They likely will die before 2nd level. Only the skilled gamer makes it to 3rd level. There is no mercy in real AD&D. Protect your magic user, do as your cleric tells you, and make sure the fighter gets the best weapons and armour.
I agree completely. I always suggest players start out at level 3 or so with max hit points.
Thats what keeps me playing 1st and 2nd ed, THE DANGER LEVELS! Newer versions almost make you a GOD, and almost impossible to kill. Look at Energy Drain for example.
@@geofftottenperthcoys9944 I have little experience with the older systems at the table. Mostly played them in older video games. But weren't high level characters in 1e and 2e also absurdly powerful, specially wizards? I feel like at some point they get even stronger than 5e ones.
The AD&D advice is great, the house rules not so much.
“Spells are really powerful in AD&D”
“Assume everyone (including magic users) have max hp. “
“Make all spells require 1 round to cast (except the ones that take turns)”
In other words, take the system where the biggest flaw is how powerful magic users are compared to everyone else and make them even more powerful.
Magic Users are powerful but only when they have spells they can cast that express that power, in my opinion.
Many times, the MU is relied on for utility spells and damage output, but thus is very limited even at level 10+. This means a MU's first instinct is to not cast and hold back until casting turns the tide of the battle. Spell recovery is quite long for all casters which is probably why every subsequent edition fiddled with this.
Lsstly, like the monk, 1d4 H.P. per level, often with no CON bonus, bad AC, useless martial abilities (darts, daggers, staves, can't land a hit etc) makes MU/ILL feel like a black powder musketeer on the battlefield surrounded by Vikings, Knights, or Apachees.
Imagine being level 14 in the Vault of the Drow and your H.P. on average is 20.
Even so, AD&D is perhaps the most creative, content robust, original, and magical game system ever created that changed everything.
Thanks for watching and I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Classic Traveller videos and the 4E Design and Features video too!
Thank you, I was having such a hard time finding videos on ad&d
Thanks for making the time to pass along feedback. It very cool of you! Please let your friends know!
Thank you for the video. Long story short, I only started playing D&D in 2020, but was first introduced to it in 1980. Being a child of the 70's and 80's I have a hankering to play an AD&D 1e campaign. Since I can't find others who are interested where I live, I may have to start my own online group to explore some of the early campaigns.
It's REALLY tough to get a game of the older editions since most younger folks are playing 5e or Magic the Gathering. There are a few Facebook groups with older players who like to play online!
facebook.com/groups/837061783726944
facebook.com/groups/dungeonsanddads
facebook.com/groups/1631263480503022
facebook.com/groups/OSRIC1E
@@Classic_DM This is fantastic. Thank you! I've also registered to attend GaryCon virtually and was able to get onto an old-school campaign there as well. Super excited!
So glad I still have original copies of all of these books.
Awesome!
I loved that "what was that" when some random battle roar in chill background music appeared
Hahah! Scary business those Adrian von Ziegler tracks!
www.youtube.com/@AdrianvonZiegler
At first I thought I would really like 4th Edition because it seemed to scale down the melee rounds until I had to deal with powers (utility, encounter, daily, etc) which was like having to memorize complicated spells for any class. I started with 1E, I was 12 when it first came out, after all these years and many versions I am returning to my favorite edition, 1E.
I love AD&D with just a few minor house rules for time and movement. 4E is a really robust system, but has almost too many attack options.
@@Classic_DM Delete all the powers (utility, encounter, at will) and it would have been a great setup. The last thing I wanted was to play a fighter but have to memorize spell like abilities.
Great video bud 😁 I got OSRIC myself has things cleaned up a bitI like it. I am running Shadowdark with an OSRIC megadungeon (OSRIC is AD&D anyway) using good bit of the rules from it pretty much a hybrid mix of the two to a homebrew set. All of these things and other OSR games work together with little to no work. I have tons of PDFs from older adventures, again they work so well I love it all. I think I might end up running Just OSRIC system with the adventures. Again it's just easier to read tbh. Again great video. I liked your 4th Ed video. It was my first system
Thanks for the cool comments and feedback! I REALLY miss playing!!
I play AD&D games with friends once a month. We usually play for 8-10 hours at a time. I'm so happy I kept all my old books.
You are blessed. All we have around here is MTG, Lorcana, 40k, and 11 year olds. : (
Loved the video. Really good recap of the best parts of this underrated fun system. Running a 1e game twice a month and loving it!
I'm happy to hear that and thank you for the kind words! I love AD&D with a few little house rules around time, movement, and the melee round.
There are so many really neat modules to play that are dirt cheap on Drive Thru RPG as well.
The mean value for the ability score checks appear to be wrong. Rolling 3d6 has a mean value of 10.5, not 7.5, the same as for a single d20. 4d6 has a mean value of 14, while 5d6 has 17.5.
I would rather go with 2d6 (7) for easy, 3d6 (10.5) for simple, 4d6 (14) for difficult, and 5d6 (17.5) for extremely difficult. Just remember that the chances are all on a bell curve, that is most rolls will fall at or near the average value.
Great catch and suggestions! Thank you.
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I have read a LOT of Forgotten Realms books, BUT only adventure in Greyhawk!
Question If I am just getting into AD&D and I recently bought the POD versions, is it still worth it to get the originals? I know on ebay they can be a bit pricey but is there any reason to or just stick with what I already have?
Nope! Stick with reprints.
Zero difference
Except boogers, old glue, and Billy Waverson's name in ballpoint ink inside.
I have the PoD items likely better physical books than the originals.
As much as it's good to have the reprints, it's also good to have the originals. It's nice to have something physical, you can print those by scanning them as much as you want, and they're just nicer.
@@TheGateShallStand I'd normally agree, but you will either have to have had them for 50 years (and treated them very kindly, or settle for getting used 50 year old books. (and hope they were treated kindly). As for scanning, well that was already down many years ago. It's just nice that we can order a new hardcover often for close to the price to have it printed out by a professional (and not hardcover.
Monster Manual II is amazing - just WOTC and not releasing many of these resource to being PoD.
I am planning run 1e next year
Great! You'll have tons of time to prepare!
When you sit down to run the game, be sure and find a good old school module to run and don't limit yourself to level 1-3 as this is when player characters are the absolute weakest.
Are you sure you got spell recovery right? You don’t need to spend 8 hours memorizing but just sleeping/resting.
I also think the means for the ability checks are not 100% accurate…
But I liked the video very much! :-)
It's up to you really. House rules and what not. 8* hours works as well. It really only effects casters as martial characters have no combat abilities to "reset"
The good thing is whatever you do passes as fast as a sentence and maybe a wandering monster roll.
Me math = not Marc MIller!
You need a certain amount of rest and then a certain amount of time per spell level to memorize. It is in the DMG.
@@PeterNorthsLeftTesticle That works! Got a table for that?
I see that a lot of things in the first editions of D&D are calculated with percentages. Isn't this a hassle to calculate sometimes? Or is it all just in intervals of 5%, and you can just roll a d20 to determine the percentage?
Use 2, d10s www.dicedragons.co.uk/blogs/dice-advice/how-to-roll-a-d100
How do you work the interrupting of spells?
If you take damage.
Any spell that 1 round or more is succeptible to being hit.
@@Classic_DM I think I understand how it works. I haven't dm-ed enough to get it. Thank you.
@@Classic_DM watching your frost giant thing. I have been looking into solo dnd. I have the stuff to do it.
@@Classic_DM Here in Fl, there is convention for Old RPGers- they only play rpgs from the 70s and 80s. I'm the only gamer I know that likes this stuff. It's in the bowels of Orlando. I'd never find it.
@@DaftPhully Oh?? Hell let me know where it is. I'm in St Johns area.
I think you are bringing a lot of stuff that takes the fun out of AD&D, by using a lot of new rules from 5e. 1e/2e are so much different than 5e, if you start bringing a lot of rules from 5e into the original AD&D, you are really taking away the joy of the older games. Just not a fan of the later editions. I started with 1e, and we brought some things in from 2e, but mostly kept the basis of 1e in one campaign and used mostly 2e in a second campaign. The uniqueness of 1e/2e is really, really destroyed by just one or two 5e rules. I hate to hear is someone is killing the old time game.
Also, I think it's strange that you talk about tactics and strategy near the end (running instead of fighting or, as we used to do... PARLEY!), but the first house rule is max hit points. We had max hp at 1st and 2nd level. After that you rolled and lived with what you got. That created MORE, not less, strategic decisions and made it that much more fun.
For initiative, we always rolled a d20.
Critical hit and flub were in our campaigns also.
Finally, we had a temple we could go to for raising the dead. The cost was staggering and often required the individual to be in DEEP debt and/or do something ridiculously difficult for the church IMMEDIATELY. It was like casting a wish spell. Anything could happen, and usually did. So it wasn't something we did often unless someone was VERY tied to their character or their character was a major plot motivator/mover. One time a player had to change sex (from a she to a he), another time a player had to change class and become a cleric of the God, and once a fighter was only allowed to use hammers as weapons (by being raised by a cleric of Thor). Lots of interesting stuff, lots of interactions with the Gods themselves, being given choices of life or whatever. Fun times.
I don't even play 5e.
I think changing the melee round to 6 sec (from 60 seconds) and adjusting the movement rate to match makes the moment-to-moment combat more engaging.
Everything else stays the same.