Watch This Before Buying a Scan Tool
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- I made this video to help techs save money by buying the right scan tool from the start.
Does everyone need a $1500 scan tool? Heck no! But for most a simple code reader might leave them wanting for more. Let's take a look at some new and used options out there for the different levels of work.
There are a lot of scan tools shown in this video Amazon is the place to get them:
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Launch X431 Pro3s+
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Launch X431 Pro elite
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I have a pad 7. So far, its been the best mechanic scan tool I've ever used. Launch did an excellent job for the most part but I would not recommend Launch to a locksmith. They'll do almost anything else but they only have basic IMMO abilities, even after purchasing the $500 Immo software, key programmer, and the Prog3 anti theft device. There are a few seasoned veteran locksmiths that can get Launch scanners to fully cooperate in IMMO but i couldn't.
Good to know!
Hilo bro
Do you mean launch immo is not good?
Thank you
@@user-go3fr7cc3o I've never had any issues with programming keys or remotes.
@user-go3fr7cc3o not for Promaster or Ram truck but basic stuff may be OK. A couple of honda and newer toyota was a synch but it struggled with dodge
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Thank you for answer bro
Do you have any idea between these two categories? Autel immo 608pro2 vs immo plus?
I love your videos, I have been a master tech for over 40 years. Bought mant of Snapon and Matco tools. my last one was a Matco, it is just a launch and have had to have it repaired a couple of times, My Matco guy sends it to Launch. I just recieved my new launch tonight, The LAUNCH X431 PRO3S+. It is the same tool Matco sells for 4k. I got it on a lightning deal from Amazon for $921 . Same tool and hooked it up to my car tonight and already like it!
I've been using autel and snap-on for decades. I'm thinking about getting the one you just bought especially for the can buss and key programming. What do you think? Should I grab one they are still right at a grand on Amazon.
The PRO3S+ Is literally the best they offer and is far better than any Snap-on product currently made. I love mine.
Thanks for the educative videos... am a kenyan i have been trying to set up such a garage but capital is an issue,hope one day this vision will come to fruition
Best advice I can give you- Follow your dreams. You don't need to have all the fancy tools and equipment to be a good mechanic. Start out slow and build your way up. Some of the best shops close to where I live and small and older, but they do great quality work, the fancy new places are the ones to watch out for, they are trying to make up all the money they spent buying all the stuff.
Good Luck to you my friend
Some of the biggest things missing in these reviews are
Does it have topology?
What is the refresh rate of data pid graphing?
How many data pids can be viewed in graph at once.
For a diagnostic tech, these are crucial. I appreciate your showing these tools if you could include those points it would be great
You'll need to check out my individual reviews on these tools. I cover ALL of those topics in depth in my scan tool reviews.
True. One of the things I tried to find out before buying a scan tool were the polling rates but unfortunately no one mentions it and the scanners themselves don't show it. You can only have a rough idea by watching the graphs and how fast they react to for example pressing the accelerator pedal. I got a launch crp919e BT and it is fast enough and compared to other much more expensive scanners there's little to no difference. It also depends on the car too and how many PID's you've selected. I know xtool scanners are super slow and there's no use in watching graphs to diagnose something. Scannerdanner said this and it saved me a few hundreds. Opted for the launch.
Yep
That's what I've been chasing for years, all of the above.
It's amazing how the diag everything has changed a lot.
The approach thru to the customer delivery.
Can be easier and streamlined and most miss the boat and struggle without proper scanning of all modules etc before diving into repairs etc ..
Most techs are lost especially on customer service 🐕🦺
guys, graphing over slow connection is poor ....
- Guess why ??
The car own bus gateway is already maxed out with car data.
This slow speed is one of the CAN Bus issue, not only slow scanner.
What module causes that... the Bosch "ABS /ESP" (no fault code detected!)
sir, if I were to buy one of the tools you show in the video, what would you recommend to me?
Great video. Been a DIY for over 30 years. (I maintain three vehicles) I started out with a basic $60 code reader. Then to a Launch CRP123 in 2019. Launch X431 CRP919E Elite Bidirectional in 2023. Launch X431 Pro Elite in 2024.
The X431 Pro Elite is my favorite. I like being able to take decent pictures with a flash. (Not having to use my cellphone) I like the Android OS and apps. (Mine doesn't have the Google Play Store though) I can save reports in PDF format and send by email to my customer. Having the ES Flie Explore app allows me to organize everything in one place on the tablet scanner. I can even do a Google search if needed. (Again, not having to use my cellphone) I have the TPMS TSgun, Endoscope and car battery tester. Had to pay extra for the addons, but well worth it.
As you said, knowing the features you want, and need is key. I really like having the camera and place to store all documents and pictures. I normally keep hard copies in the house, garage and on my laptop. I will never get rid of the hard copies, but like being able to pull things up digitally while I'm working.
The Elite is such a great tool. I agree that it really ups the game with the shop software it comes with. Makes customer databases all on the tool a reality.
just getting to the process of learning all this knowledge. i must say this video was super concise and informative. thank you!
Thanks for the kind words! I tried to make sure that all levels of people interested in scan tools would be able to make an informed decision after watching.
Don't know if you are aware...but " Zeus " is an actual name of a demon from Hell.....does that make sense now ? yes it does....peace and love man ..great vid Jay.
Yes it does make it clear. Very clear
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thanks for the kind reply....do these scan tools need an update at 2 years ? do they stop functioning if you do not ? and become useless ... thanks in advance ! Jay.
I use a snap on verus. It's not fancy schmancy, but it works just fine
We had a Verus Pro but sold it as it was getting very slow with age.
As a DIYer in the UK with a 2011 Ford S-MAX - I recently had DPF regeneration issue .. first spent £50 on basic OBD reader, then another £50 on a slightly better one to get better code data.
In the end I also got the Launch X431 pros elite for £460 to be able to clear dpf learnt values and prime the vaporiser. Should have got the x431 in the first place. Will need it for further jobs like parking brake reset in near future.
Yup! If you are going to be doing that kind of work, your already a tech! Time to get a good tool for sure. The code readers are fine for new to the industry guys but once you really get rolling, it's time to move up.
you can retract P-brake cylinder with 9 volt battery, and put back the same way.
I like what you've done and information you're giving but the simple fact is most people can't take full advantage of a higher end scan tool. Most don't know how to use them to there full advantage.
My channel aims to help the many techs that really don't know much about cars and help them to understand that these tools are far more than simple code readers.
I love Identifix, but I feel it's making a lot of techs give up on learning the real way to diag a car.
Thanks for the clear guidance. Advanced engineers should go with the Launch x431 pros elite, absolutely good device if you are a DIY.
I've been VERY happy with mine!!
LAUNCH is serious about good software development 👍👍
Does it do immo keys and all keys lost?
Snap on's warranty is for however long they carry the tool. NOT lifetime you own it. So special tools especially warranty ends the sec they stop it from sales.
And yet they could continue to sell their final upgrade forever. They just choose to screw the customer instead.
I bought the pro3s+ because of your video last year, It still works well! Thank you
I love mine. It was a lot to spend, but it's been worth it!
Check out the topdon brand, it cost 180 and does EVERYTHING
I have used some of there stuff before, they were decent for the price
Back then an better scan tool , not obd2 , for one brand car was around $3000 , today one that do all cars all systems is around 300 . Here China really did some good .
Yup! Times certainly changed!!
And Europe
Lol remember buying the "cards/chips"
Currently useing the autel mp808. It's been an excellent scanner.
Autel makes some good stuff!
Thanks for the good info! I just have a OBDLink Bluetooth reader right now but I’m not an expert tech or anything. I’d like to find a less expensive Bluetooth OBD tool that can program Fords using Forscan
To program will require a pro level tool like the ones shown here.
I want one that will read codes clears troubles and can program keys as well so what would be a good one
The Launch X431 Elite will do that with a lot of extras to boot!
Here's the novel idea make every car manufacturer have a OBD scanner built into their dashboard and they're required to put it there so we can look and see what's wrong with their junk instead of having to buy a $400 scanner to look it up or take it to a mechanic and find out they fix things that there was nothing wrong with it these cars are so complicated this needs to be a must I push to have an OBD scanner built into every car so we can tell the real story of what fails on these things rather than work on trust with a mechanic and then the people that enjoy working on their cars would have some clue as to where to start with these complicated space shuttles with wheels I think that be a great idea but you'll never see it that would lose money for the manufacturers of the automobiles they never do it they're too much of a capitalist society that they exist Within
They can't do that because it makes sense. Many times you can go to advance auto and get the codes read for free
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs yes I have done that with the parts store here in town that loaned out their scanners with the idea that when you found out what was wrong you would return the scanner and buy the part from them then in itself was a good and a Humane thing to do for our fellow man instead of concentrating on how much money we can get from him thank you for commenting
I just looked into the Launch X431 Pro Elite on Amazon and "lightning deals" based on some comments here. I just saw a lot of unhappy people saying their units were used, have no support from Launch, the ones received don't support American vehicles (chinese region only), and the seller/tech support is in China. Reviewers say they like their Autel better. So many options, not enough reviews, too many bad reviews (as with most electronics nowadays).
I don't know where those comments come from, but I suspect it's from Launch's USA PR. I've owned several models now and had very few issues. When I do have an issue, I contact Kingbloen (the US distributor) and they always take care of me. US Launch costs 3x as much and offer exactly 0% more than the global version. my best guess is they are spamming global sellers to make them look like a bad pick.
I have a Xtools D9 pro and it sucks really bad....slow to connect, tests that don't work that should, doesn't recognize modules that are there. I've since used a Launch x431 and it's way better!!!
-regretful Xtools buyer
Thank you for sharing your opinion, it is sure to help another user out
Thanks for saving me from wasting gunpowder
Question on the subscription aspect of scan tools, is that for the unit to function OR to have the latest database to work from?
The subscription is simply for updates. Once it expires the tool will still work fine, it just can't be updated to work on newer cars.
Ha ha. I brought a snap on modis ultra. Biggest rip off I've ever owned. Also have the old maxidas and a really pld launch. A nd now I have the launch eiro tab 3. Which is great. The only thing I don't like is that they do take a lot longer to load things. I own my own shop here in Australia
I'm sorry you got suckered like I did with a Snap on tool. They really screw people over these days.
What scanner should I buy to work on Toyota and Lexus Hybrid battery systems?
The Launch x431 Elite or ProS3+ would both be perfect for that kind of work. PS- I was a Toyota/Lexus tech back in the day, they are great cars
What is the most economical option that will allow you to view a gm vehicles mileage?
Any of the mid-level scan tools I show here will have that function. Are you concerned that someone tampered with milage?
Good day mate. I'm looking to buy a used car in Europe. The problem is that most cars there have fake mileage. I don't know which car yet. If you can tell me which scanner ( which can I buy In Australia ) , can read the right mileage from the largest number of the cars. Thanks.
MOst of the mid level and pro level will show mileage based off the ECM. I am not sure how they are faking the mileage on the cars. It is highly illegal in the US, so I never looked too far on how they were doing it. I am sorry there are so many bad people out there who do stupid stuff like that. Good luck to you
They need to start making oscilloscopes maybe some version of the snap on vantage pro
That's about the only missing. A scope module would be great!
I need to be able to check TCMs on big trucks.
You'll need to look for a scanner with HD coverage.
You won't find a decent aftermarket unit.
Non will code injectors, non will really get into it. The Pacar guys don't read DD or Cummins, and the TCM talks to the ECM, even clutches are adjusted with a scanner tool on Automatic Trans. Years ago I worked at a Cat dealer, and already in the late 90 s we were coding every week though our dealer link to Cat, password changed every week to my Service Managers email,as techs were loading their personal laptops so they could scan on weekends, all the big HD are gone to that. So it's hard, but a few pirate systems are out there, but again, each and every brand had their own system
Great informative video but I do have a question. I'm about to get a Ford Transit Connect XLT 2012. The seller tells me there's a small issue of that the car will slip in first gear but besides that the car works perfectly. He went on and had it checked out but the problem was they told him the transmission was fine or at some point they told him the transmission needed to be changed. So some person suggested to me a diagnostic tool of like the ones that you show. And to go into the diagnostic and clear the transmission data that should realign the transmission to work in the right way. Would you recommend getting one of these tools or just having someone who has one of these devices come and reset the vehicle? Help me Obi-Wan and thank you
I would not recommend purchasing that vehicle at all. Lots of times if you use a scan tool to realign the transmission can cause it to fail. If it starting to slip, that is a red flag. Do your self a favor and walk away from this one- you will be happier if you did.
The car works "Perfectly" is your key word that there are issues.
Thanks for this educative video.I am from PNG,what is ur opinion on a Ottofix scanner?
I was very happy with the Otofix. Very snappy and good coverage.
Excellent video, w helpful info on the various levels of features and functionality. Towards the end of the video, you mentioned diagnostic options that are "software only," designed to be installed on a laptop or PC, similar to TIS. I'm interested in this alternative solution, and what your thoughts are on this approach. Do you have any recommendations or videos covering this topic, and the products that are available? Specifically, what software is available for the "All Makes & Models" Diagnostic Techs & Mechanics, that don't work at a "Manufacturer OEM Specific" dealership.? TIA
So when it comes to pure software based tools. Nearly all that I have worked with are model specific. Toytota uses TIS, Volvo Uses VIDA, and so on. The only (Now extinct) program I recall that was a "Bring your own laptop" kind of solution came from OTC and it was the Genysis touch program. They stopped supporting it a few years back though.
I just replace my camshaft position sensor (Bank 1) code P0340 on my 2014 Mustang GT 5.0 Coyote. What affordable Scan Tool can I use to relearn the new sensor that was just installed?
Nearly all of the mid level and pro level tools shown will do that for you. Good luck!
Check out “X Tools” brand scanner. Model D7. Good price, unreal scanner w programming. Give them your VIN # before you purchase and they will answer your question/needs before purchase.
Will all of them delete codes
Yes, in all systems.
This is absolutely inspirational💥 Maybe next time you could take us into consideration lol
I love your tool! As much as I wanted to include every tool I own or have reviewed, some did indeed get left out. I did however link to your tools on Amazon.
Don't worry, this isn't the last video on the subject!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs It's so nice of you for all that. We know how much effort you've put into creating such amazing videos. Take it easy ;)
U need a scan tool mainly for engine /transmission /abs/airbags
Not as a pro! I spend more time actuating blend doors in climate systems, than in the ECM.
I need to program a new abs module for a 2017 chevy truck. What is the lowest priced Autel setup that will do this? The choices are overwhelming. I know I have to purchase access to software and use a laptop. Any ideas would be appreciated.
I can't say for sure since I haven't had to program one. are you just marrying the module to the new car?
What asían brands does it cover?
Quite literally all of them, There are many different scan tools, but most of them cover the asian models
I have one question. Will the launch flash a body control module for a super duty ford diesel? Please help!
Some of them can marry a new module.
i am searching for tool that can just do coding vin number when module fails on electric cars. i would appreciate if you would tell me which launch model can do that . i dont need for high voltage battery i just need for modules.
I am sorry, I just don't know that one. I'd reach out to Launch via Kingbolen's website to ask them.
can any of these from video code for example module on electric cars like ioniq 5 or kia or volkswagen id3 ? when i say code i mean write vin number to new module when replacing it
See my other comment. I just don't know as I haven't run into that issue here.
I am looking for a scanner the works on HD trucks and doesn't need a subscription to the company.
You may need to seek a OEM solution if you need programming ability.
I live in Southern NH, and quite a few garages(dealerships) are disciplining mechanics that fail to uptick every customer twice - two times. I have written estimates in-hand, totally false. And I have parts still on the shelf that I purchased on the pretense of false info. Sorry for such a negative comment. (DIY about 80 yrs.) I wonder if anyone could help me with cartridges for a Mastertech 3100? GM and Toyota1995+/- to the end or so.
Man I had a Mastertech. Toyota and Lexus used them. I'd check eBay for used carts. As for the upselling and outright lies, yes, it's a sick part of the industry brought on by greed, poor quality techs and the root cause is of course the outdated flat rate system that encourages cutting corners.
What is your opinion of a Innova SDS 50
Im working, have a 04 duramax, 04 Volvo XC 70. I know its not a Vida, as i have a pre 16 Ross Tech for our VW, so I know its not factory level, but your thoughts, I looked at the Launch stuff, dang so many option, lost me. Thanks
I haven't had a chance to play with one of those yet, but I can say the X431 line of Launch tools are all pretty decent.
Have you checked out any of the Otofix scan tools that are powered by Autel?
I have not. I'll check them out!
I own the Otofix D1 proS and otofix im1. Can confirm they are legit!!
Is launch crp 919x bt okay to do coding and unlocking functions? or should i go with pros elite?
You'll want the Pro Elite for that.
Buy a scan tool. Two days later you will find a better one you wish you had bought.
Get one that has a return policy= no regrets that way
Do you know anything about Kingbolen scanner?
I have not used one, but they appear to be very similar to the Launch scanners.
Hi can you pls make a review for the x431 immo plus? Thank you
I don't own that, but I will look into it.
Which j box do you recommend for factory diagnostics you showed on the computer?
I actually use 3 of them right now. None are all that fancy. Two of them are generic USB type obd-2 connectors. One for Toyota and one for VW. The third I use with Volvo is the usb driven DICE unit.
Ive seen the super expensive oem ones as well as the drewtech or even the “pass through” options on the more expensive scan tools. I’ve also seen the ebay or amazon no name brands, how do I tell if the unknown brand on amazon will work and hopefully not damage the car?
Bro, Can I do ACC calibration (ADAS) with xtool D7S for my jeep 2022 ?
I sent mine back. Features are not for all vehicles even though they may be listed. Also, the app had a hard time initializing at first, and random app freezing.
Either way, for ADAS, you need to purchase the rigging for the calibration.
ADAS needs a lot more than just the software to preform. Do you have the wall chart and other items?
What is a good scanner that can still run diagnostics with a mismatch vin ?
So a stolen car?
Manually enter VIN.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs no, I bought the car. I took it to Brake Masters for a diagnosis and they told me to take it to the dealership bc of mismatch vin number that was interfering of the diagnosis process. Told us that someone needed to reprogram the computer with the correct vin.
@@iam1smiley1 Do you know how? Or what equipment/device I need bc even the dealership said that they couldn't fix the mismatch vin problem but they were still able to diagnose it
The xTool doesn't work for American vehicles older than around 2005.
Are you sure? I don't work on American stuff often here as most drive Asian cars around here, but I can read stuff back to the 90's with it.
I have xtools d9, it sucks and doesn't work well on older vehicles. I've got an old Snap-on Modis for older vehicles updated to 2014.
Great video. Will any of the three bring screens help Me bleed the breaks on a yukon 05.? Thanks in advance
All three! These all have the ABS bleed function.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thank you you sir. Again great video.
Can i use one of these on a 2011 renault megane or do i need to use a CLIP (renault) diagnostic tool? I bought a OBD2 device but wasnt sure if i plugged this in it would cause more issues
It should work fine!
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs brilliant thank you.
I use the Thinkscan SR6 and works great on both our Cars 2013Renault and a 2018 Mazda. Has five free maintenance/ service features added.
How do you find out what vehicles they will work on exactly
I am not joking here, but a lot of times, you buy it and find out! That is why I own many of these scanners. No one scan tool can do it all. Even the crappy Snap-on Zeus sucks with certain cars.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs okay I just thought maybe there was a way to see if it would work before I buy one but I guess not
@@brianbichanich6085 With XTool you just email them. Their response time is supposed to be very good.
Ask manufacturer of tool
I was looking for a key programmer for 1999 Discovery 2 . And they said there us practically no machine that can do the 1999 discovery 2 land rover😢
Torque-Pro?
Have not heard of that one.
You can write your own pid code library
Much open source available
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs it's software
I need to program a new body control module in my gm truck, can the launch x431 do that level of ecu programming?
Thank you
If the unit just needs to be married to the car, then Yes, I believe it will work. If it needs software flashed to it from a website, then no. you'll need an OEM solution.
Help no. God bless 👍
Happy to help!
that was 5.57 where you swapped tools
The video shows many many tools. It's not a video of one scan tool. There is no problem with the video.
Another good video of why NOT to get into the Automotive business,,,,
Oh come on, we make money hand over fist! The headaches are worth it.
you swapped tools 25.52 with no explanation need to reedit video
There are a ton of different scan tools in this video, I did not think it needed an explanation.
His hands are very distracting
Sorry, I tried to remove them but I found it hard to use the tools
You blew it when you started bashing Snap On.
No, they blew it with overpriced scan tools that consistently come up short.
Which Scanner is a good one. I want to program key fob to. I heard bad things about Snap-on and Autel Scanner.
Snap-on is a waste of $$ for sure, but most Autel scanners are great. Launch also makes great tools.