The Battle for Central Park
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This is a video about the different plans for Central Park.
Sources: docs.google.com/document/d/1zXwgRWPZIQ0kPO-L1YalqEcQFtSSl_QlZRwrbLrSL-8/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you @NotJustBikes, @IMPERIALYT, @BobbyBroccoli, @BritMonkey, @PhilEdwardsInc, and @chuppl for helping with the voiceovers.
Thank you to GŁOWA for allowing me to use some his very excellent music: _GLOWA_
Song Name: Somnolence
Source: freemusicarchive.org/music/Ka...
Modifications: Slight EQ changes
Artist: music by Kai Engel License: CC 4.0
This video uses footage licensed by Getty Images - Zábava
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Sources: docs.google.com/document/d/1zXwgRWPZIQ0kPO-L1YalqEcQFtSSl_QlZRwrbLrSL-8/edit?usp=sharing
Feels good when you're the first one to upload the sponsorblock segment : )
Hey Hoog, I haven't watched on CZcams so maybe it's better here, but the audio balance on Nebula is atrocious. There are parts where the music is so loud and the voiceover so quiet you can barely hear what's being said.
@hoogyoutube : I concur with @JimCullen :the audio on nebula is bad in comparison with youtube. The backgroundmusic overwhelms the voiceover, but weirdly on youtube there is no issue. Toch geweldige content en veel dank voor de prachtige films!
@@JimCullenI can confirm this too: I would prefer to watch this on Nebula, but the Audio is all wonky and I sadly see no way on Nebula to leave a comment or message to let you know about it.
This was so well presented i loved it and loved learning about it. Now do Hyde Park London!
They should turn it into a big parking lot instead
Mark my words. It will become residential
So american. Maybe have a better public transportation and limit the city to only HOVs
OMG great idea!!! There's not enough parking in NYC! In fact, they should just bulldoze half the city and turn it into surface parking!
The real American way
I hate this meme so much
The 16 smaller parks naturally wouldn't be remotely as iconic as Central Park, and realistically a single park is more easily protected in practice from being destroyed than when there are lots of "spares", but damn, New York would look so much friendlier and be so much healthier with all of those...
So true
better solution: bigger and plentiful parks.
The urban expansion is too stupid. It may had worked that way before because of the technological constraints but now, we have better materials, better techniques/methods as well as better technology. We can build up and down instead of spreading out. We also require less space for other processes. Imagine the entire coast line of the islands and the coastlines of the mainland surrounding the island were still heavily nature oriented with only a few sections for commercial purpose like ports and harbour or transportation points.
Majority of processes that are in NYC now require little to no brick and mortar as most are jobs that can be done online. The only ones would still require spaces would be for storage, power (electricity), water, and trash. Almost most production jobs are done elsewhere. Other processing that are common would be groceries and butcher shops.
We don't live in logs, skyscraper capabilities are getting better so you can fit more people in them instead of building buildings next to each other (because of weight limitations). As most underground of the island is fairly developed, land sinking from the weight wouldn't be an issue since the base or foundation is unified. Parts of the island wouldn't sink but the entire island would instead. So it's a feasible problem. that can easily be provided a solution.
Yes and NYC has smaller parks too and look them up, however you would have ended up with a more Chicago problem where no parks or plants are in most of city or micro parks too small to help people especially now a bunch of areas with parks are no longer a part of actual Chicago. Problem here in Chicago compared to 99% of other cities is how parts after WWII grew so quick people could not keep up, probably faster then any city in USA due to having people of non white race moving north due to South East USA keeping Jim Crow laws longer then rest of USA even into 1970's for some parts.
People should also fuck/reproduce less. But that's been historically kind of an impossible thing to deal with and even the most megalomaniacal "solutions" (both planned, as well as nature sorta just running its course) didn't actually work.@@wanderingbufoon
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The problem with building up and building down is it creates a natural hierarchy, where the rich live up above and the poor are relegated to the depths. And building up also creates the issue of a lack of natural lighting, making ground level very unpleasant.
Senator Beekman was a real piece of work. He wanted to use a public area to benefit his personal wealth, and then he wanted said area to be paid for by the public that barely benefited from it. He is basically the 19th century equivalent of a sports team owner demanding that the public build yet another new billion-dollar stadium.
Senator Beekman was a real piece of work, like Trump perhaps.
@@diabolicalartificer more so hunter actually
@@LightYagami- how so?
Like 99% of US politicians nowadays. They are only there for personal gains, with inside trading.
@@LightYagami- hunter doesn't even have 1/10ths of land owned compared to trump
The way that the quotes are presented visually is utterly perfect and unique. Then the additional voice over put the cherry on top
i r eally really liked it lol
I'm actually not a big fan. It pushes away my attention
@@FrankDijkstra What, how? Such a tranquil and mesmerizing voiceover, also fits into the video well.
@@HistoryBuff_0 ADHD 🙂
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The voice-overs were a nice touch!
its like dune
I had to double check the years because I thought they were actual historical recordings. But I really appreciate the atmosphere they lend to the video.
they were all british for some reason
@@CausticLemons7 Yeah I thought they were recordings too until I recognized Jason from NJB :D
@@haukauntrieGood ear!
If both Central and Jones Parks had been built then I bet the land in between would see massive skyscrapers with a view of both areas.
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John Griscom was a genius and a visionairy, yet his wikipedia is like 50 words. My God imagine being born when George Washington was fighting the brits and ending up with a mind that, in the 1800s, understood how 2000s and on property development and related unequality unfolds. He was spot on, we needed 8, or 16 parks, not one big one.
EDIT: you guys need to realise; this was a man with an egalitarian, democratic, looking after the downtrodden in the big cities, mindset in the age of GEORGE WASHINGTON. EVERYTHING we have going on right now he expected while the industrial revolution didnt even reach the entire county.
Impressive
Well he could have also observed what had happened in London's parks. The video shows that a park in a city was not unprecedented
It was pretty remarkable too that the cooling effect of his proposal was correct when there was no concrete data about urban heat islands and the like.
I have to strongly object to this sentiment. Allowing it to be split up into many disparate parks opens each of them up to be eventually shut down one by one, making everyone worse off in the long term. One gigantic park, whilst suboptimal, puts up more resistance than one small park.
Feels like symptom control@@maxlife459
Many great European parks used to be private gardens owned by the royalty and aristocracy and they simply became open to the public at some point. Meanwhile, in NY, a city of 750k people there was not a single man willing to give their land to the public. It seems the good of the people was the least of their concern.
Royalty and aristocracy already had a park set up that they weren't using for anything other than a garden. And since thet had such large private gardens they most likely had money to burn. Out of the 75k people only a few had that much land, and they were more businessmen, who obtained the land to gain more money. Plus all that land was undeveloped so no matter if they wanted to make a park or business, money needed to go in. Less about goodness of people, but more econimics.
And then came Chicago and democratized the park system. The city has a vast system of parks all around the city and was the first one to establish community centers within.
Sounds like NYC
Only problem was over time it never did reach that level that NYC was able to achieve
Did I just hear Nacho's Bikes in the voiceover?
Not just bikes?
I thought I recognized him too!
@@user-yh1nm1vy3i yes! Nacho's bikes!
Nacho's Bites, sounds tasty where is it
thought i was the only one that thought that
edit: yep the description confirms it
I love the quote "deficient in sound reasoning"
Hey Hoog, you can barely hear the voiceovers in the Nebula release with how loud the ambient music gets. It’s a lot better in the CZcams release
Came here to say the same thing
Yeah, Nebula edition was all over the shop with the audio levels. CZcams is fine though, sounds are excellent!
yup same here; was wondering if it was just me
Came here to say the same thing!
The audio mixing on nebula is very frustrating. I'm so happy to hear the voiceover and coordination, but I can barely hear it.
For 1800 standards this is radical eco renewal something most cities today wouldn’t dare try
Also John Griscom practically predicted the future knowing the rich would obviously benefit having a large park compared to those in the inner city who wouldn’t be able to afford to go there dude was ahead of his time his idea should’ve been thought more about before approving Central Park
I really hope you do a follow up to this going into the details of how it was built after being finalized. And also talk about Seneca village, which was seized through eminent domain.
This. The forced displacement of Seneca Village, Manhattan’s first significant settlement of Black property owners, was a significant event in the creation of Central Park.
its a disappointment they didnt even mention anything about seneca village in this whole video. seriously? at one point theyre reading out a document mentioning that the area is largely unsuitable for development, why not mention it there as a correction?
I love your channel and "Not Just Bikes", but there is one thing I love more: You guys working together!
Not the orange man he is as bad as r/fcars with their anti car socialist propaganda
@@davisdelp8131 lol? Not just bikes is goated
@@davisdelp8131 seethe harder, carbrain
@@davisdelp8131 r/fuckcars is based af
@davisdelp8131
You dislike him because he speaks the uncomfortable truths that challenge the status quo.
Central Park was modelled of Birkenhead Park on the Wirral, England.
Birkenhead Park was the worlds first publicly funded park.
tis a lovely park too :D
I've always been a bit disturbed by the fact that central park is just a big rectangle, I don't why but I feel like that's not how parks should be shaped
It removes feelings of natural flow. I’d like to see parks follow winding streams as they converge into rivers and onwards.
The entire island should have been left alone
Central Park follows the grid. Makes the park have a nice clean shape.
shoulda been suburban sprawl and parking lots instead smh @@vulpes7079
But you don't feel that way when you are in central park.
Love the voiceovers
Great production as always. The visuals and voice overs were great!
love the voice overs. they add such a nice touch
Love the vid! The visuals and audio come together so nicely to articulate the story with drama to what could have been a trivial and dry telling of events
Hoog, I urge you to include *Seneca Village* in your next segment on Central Parks History.
They were a community of Black homeowners who were dispossessed of land via eminent domain. Ultimately, they gave up their houses and were not compensated properly. It's a major aspect of Central Park History.
Loved the video! Its currently black history month in America and it would be a great opportunity to tell that story.
Who cares!
This. Archaeological research has confirmed Seneca Village was a middle class community living in fully furnished houses with expensive goods that they were not given time or resources to move. The contemporary writings that describe it as "shantytowns" are now known to have been assassination pieces written to gain the support of racists who would never dream of actually going and looking at the churches, schools, and homes of their African-American neighbors. There's an abundance of current documentaries about this; it's widely available information. By blithely repeating the propaganda of the time as though it were historical fact... this video kind of shoots its credibility in the foot.
Truth!!!
@@TalyaMaggidah thank you for sharing this!!
I thoroughly enjoyed your awesome depiction of the story around the creation of Central Park and look forward to more of your work. Thank you, I lived most of my life in New Jersey, worked in Manhattan and always wondered why or how such a beautiful park ended up being part of the city!
Incredible production as always, I would love to see how you make such incredible videos that really rival the ones made by bigger (in numbers) youtubers. You'll for sure become one of the top dogs once the algorithm recommends you to more people that deserve to see yourcontent!
Hahaha that Incogni-ad insert was shameless. Damn good job
I absolutely love your videos but as a native Amsterdammer that is obsessed with NYC after visiting, this was the cherry on top for me. I really hope you make more city videos 🙌🏽
10:24 This may be rhe first time i've ever heard you break "character" in all of your videos. I had to listen to it about 3 times before i caught up to lmao.
Great work as always !
I really appreciate the small detail that you export your videos in the correct format. On my ultrawide screen, your work absolutely looks terrifying! Without any black borders. Thank you, that really allows me to enjoy your work at a new level.
this is ur best video yet production wise and it's extremely exciting to see where you'll head next.
This video was very educational. Thanks for everyone's work in it!
And ultimately, John Griscom, was right about the future of the New York and what Central Park would do and become. It's impressive that he could envision what it would be like, back then and also sad that New York did not follow his advice, to go with multiple parks spread throughout the city.
But there are many parks, bigger than Central Park, in the other boroughs.
The ending would have still been the same though. The rich would just be spread out over multiple parks instead of one big central one.
@@JPA65 Yeah you can see this in other cities
What an amazingly edited and crafted video. Great job
Like always- incredible video! Keep up the amazing work.
Very informative! I like how personal and current the opinions of those in the past felt when voiced this way.
If I might make a suggestion, you could lower the bass for your music- it made trying to hear what the voices had to say more difficult.
I like what you're doing here. Good luck.
Coming from Brussels, Central Park is like two of our main parks (Parc Josaphat and Bois de La Cambre - wich is not a wood) would have been melted togheter. On my side of the world there's a lot to understand here...
I don't know how you do that, but every single of your videos is one beautiful way to turn data into an actual warm story we can feel.
Even your voice is a pleasure for the ears.
Thx for the fish and plz keep doing the good stuffs :)
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This is ine of the best videos I have ever seen! Well done!
the visuals in this are just phenominal, amazing work, so well put together
John Griscom was way ahead of his time he KNEW what would happen and it exactly happened like he predicted: super sleek tall penthouse skyscrapers now line the southern edge of Central Park, with rooftops taller than the One World Trade Center's roof, and much higher housing prices on the border of the park. Had Jones Woods existed, there would be even more sleek tall skyscrapers between both parks, undoubtedly changing the face of Manhattan but not really changing the condition of lower class people. Griscom's idea is more similar to what usually happens in most European cities and other American cities like Chicago or Salt Lake City with smaller parks scattered here and about which does provide a more homogenous "aeration" of the city as well as easier access for people to whichever park is closest to them, undoubtedly healthier. Central Park is quite a massive feat and it's always nice to have a large enough green area for people to take a break from the grey urban forests but it's a park that feels very "elitist" and restricted to the wealthier population, even if it's open to everyone and there are still a wide array of people visiting it.
Your videos are the definition of excellence quality.
Loved the animation in this one. Especially the animation on all the quotes 👍
Yooo the voiceovers are amazing!
I really love your storytelling. Just mindblowing.
Loved this video. As someone in New York it’s cool to learn the history of the city this way
incredibly well researched and edited video! wow
This editing is so amazing!
Great video! Super informative and interesting - love the visuals too
Banger format with historical voiceover!
Yesss een nieuwe video! Hier ga ik ff voor zitten
Your productions are always so inspiring.
Damn good production! And super fascinating..
superb storytelling, surprising for the themes it's about, that is, urban planning and park landscaping.
History is truly a fascinating thing. I hope the video on the parks internals get made.
You have caught my attention with these videos. I could see in another video that you use Blender to render (at least some) of your scenes. I am really interrested in knowing how you set it all up : ). Keep on going, the videos are fantastic!
Your videos are pure perfection.
Wow, this is genius. I really really LOVE your channel, KEEP IT UP 👍🔥
hi hoog fellow dutchman here, i love what u do with the ai voices and real voices its a great improvement u made keep it up
Love the eloquent language in the meetings
This brings me back
great quality, love it
Well done. I expect something even better next time. Really great stuff and very professionally done. Bravo.
"I expect something even better next time." doesn't feel like a compliment.
@@theothertonydutch yep, I agree with you.
amazing video. this is one for the history books!
Absolutely loved this video! Im so impressed with the voices, how did you achieve this? Did you pay voice actors for each quote or use some ai voice over tool?
central park history boils down to "New York sucks so much, let's create a place that isn't like it"
Born and raised in nyc and I never knew any of central parks history, cool to know all this stuff now
Thanks for providing this very interesting information about Central Park's creation!
Our state capital of NSW, Sydney (Australia), has many parks in the city and surrounding suburbs, including Hyde Park in the center of the central business district (CBD). However, despite the combined parkland of the Botanical Gardens & The Domain (to the east of the CBD) more than doubling the area that city workers & visitors can access, the reality is that the total area occupied by Sydney's CBD would almost fit inside NYC's Central Park!
Your videos are very impressive!
1:46 bro I would love to listen to an entire audiobook with this style. Such a cool vibe
It's AI
@@SamTheShamAndTheCat I meant the visual style not the voice
@@wordlespoems oh fair enough
The thing is London has got some huge parks, but it also has smaller ones dotted sound. London is extremely green.
Smaller and more spread out arguably would have been better but you’d still end up either way with rich people living round them, they’d just be more spread out.
bruh ur videos r so good
The renders are on another level this time. Must have taken ages
So glad - the park is there ! You can get away from all the concrete - and enjoy the trees and bridges
NYC should have kept joneswood too. They didn’t realize how big a city could become. The double park plan was thinking centuries in advance, but didn’t register.
Videos like these are why no one watches TV anymore - this is produced like a big budget feature film, I love it
BRO I RECOGNIZED NOT JUST BIKES VOICE
Great work!
Thank you Ed!
Griscom: Poverty, public health, social equality
Beekman: Dude i don't own lands there!
Everybody else: Not majestic enough for carriage rides..
This video is crazy good!!!
Cool video. The sound mixing seems off though (or my headphones are broken?) but lots of the voiceover was drowned out by the music (on the nebula version at least)
Beautiful video❤
Awesome video! Would you consider making one about Prospect Park in Brooklyn?
good video as always
Awesome! Never knew the parks story
Great video! Also a battle of how to take land from the poor and marginalised ensued, like the fate of Seneca Village.
Awesome video!
Such a good channel. Fern too 😩
Subbed another city planning channel in last 10 days
What a fantastic vid.
Such good stuff
i LOVE the aspect ratio
It's incredible how you can make city council debates interesting
level of production>>
I think the best idea for citys is network of linear parks. connected network, where you can be while move to your destination on foot or by bycicling, surrounded by large shadowy trees, silence and fresh air.
NotJustBikes doing the voice over, Nice!
Those of you who do not know them, look him up!
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Lol, i knew it was just another soulless company trying to make money rather than concerned people alarmed by the state of the internet and wanting to make change as soon as i heard "you can get 30% off".
they all do
Let's keep it 100% Central Park was a black neighborhood that was set on fire to build Central Park.
1:05 Love the Notjustbikes cameo
wild had no idea they had voice recording back then /s
Dang I missed the @bobbybroccoli voiceover. Gonna have to rewatch.