Luffys tenacity is what makes him a legend to me, idk how you can watch his fights with arlong, crocodile and Rob Lucci and still just boil him down to some stupid guy. He feels genuine anger on behalf of the oppressed, he sheds tears for his friends gets the shit beaten out of him putting his life on the line for others. He does often put them in a difficult situation, but because his intentions are always to help the oppressed, those people end up joining his side and balancing the scales, resulting in a super satisfying victory after a steep and tenacious uphill climb.
Yeah seeing luffy fight with ussop and turn his back while crying after beating him hit me. Charlie wasn’t watching one piece he was watching two halves
Him shitting on skypiea luffy actually hurt my soul because that arc is what made luffy a legend for me The entire arc was built around luffy wanting to prove that the sky island exists, that being said we get to watch luffy just explore and have a goofy fuck around of a time on AN ISLAND IN THE SKY THAT WE NOW KNOW DOES EXIST and all the while he is slowly putting together what’s going on around the island, it takes such a long time to build up that you start to think “wow this luffy guy is really just fucking off around this arc” and then you get to the climax of his enel fight and all of a sudden you realize that THE ENTIRE TIME LUFFY WAS FUCKING AROUND ON THIS ISLAND HE ONLY HAD ONE GOAL SHOOTING THROUGH HIS MIND AND IT WAS TO RING THAT FUCKING BELL DUDE LITERALLY TUNNEL VISIONED AN ENTIRE ARC JUST TO PROVE TO A GUY HE KNEW FOR TWO DAYS THAT THERE REALLY WAS SOMETHING UP THERE AND HIS LIFES WORK WASNT FOR NOTHING it’s just such a grand beautiful payoff, and that’s when I realized luffy wasn’t dumb, he just goes with the flow with only one singular goal in mind and he doesn’t stop until that goal is achieved regardless of everything that gets in his way because he’s just a pirate on his own journey. Skypiea luffy changed the entire game for me and his tunnel vision has held strong through the entire manga and I CANT wait to see the inevitable end. Wish Charlie could see the in between where luffy secretly knows what he wants in every arc and accomplishes it 99% of the time
Luffy is the simple solution to complex problems. Sanji being trapped on Baratie due to a debt is solved by Luffy saying to “just leave”, his solution to Nami’s financially slavery by Arlong is just “ok I’ll beat him up”. His neutrality to everything around him and make the simpliest solutions come true is always wonderful
Facts and once he watches luffys backstory and once luffys actions start having severe consequences. He will fall in love. Certainly. The stakes go from a 3 to a 10 by the end.
@@jimjason5146I have a hard time believing he’ll love Luffy even after Marineford. If it takes that much for you to enjoy a character, especially a mostly stagnant character like Luffy, his opinion won’t change much.
@lesten2707 seeing him repeatedly getting his A** beat for his friends and just what lengths he will go to for his friends adds a lot and makes you respect him more. The way he tries to help his enemies as well is admirable. And once Conquerors haki is introduced, it really explains why he can't back down. For example repeatedly trying to punch the inside of the snake 🤣. He is hard-headed, and through effort alone, he triumphs. And later in the story he gets more serious because they are in actual danger being at war with the yonkos and the marine's OP captains.
Still unfortunate to hear he hated the first 300 episodes so much 😭 definitely starts peaking around water seven but i got hooked at like baratie or arlong park
lol i got hooked when zoro joined and arlong park but it prob helped that i was younger and a lot of the comedy hit a lot more and second time rewatching it i got to enjoy all the details and foreshadowing
Welcome to the journey 💜 glad you finally started to enjoy it. I had basically the same experience as you took me around 2 years to get to where you at but, as like you did started to enjoy it thoroughly that being said and tbh it’s changed my life. It gets better.
youre still just startin dude, and im glad. Cant wait for the many times your mind gets sooo hardly blown by different realisations about the story, oda and so on. MUch fun man!!
I always feel so sorry for him when he talks about how slow the pacing is. Poor guy doesn't know he's still in the "fast-paced" era that actually adapts more than 10 pages per episode
@@harnessedcomic4381ong as soon as i finished Dressrosa i vowed to skip right to the Doffy fight upon rewatch cause Dressrosa is paced so fucking bad. did you know that Rebecca's flashback is shown FIFTY-TWO TIMES throughout Dressrosa's entire course? holy shit.
I feel like so many of Charlie's criticisms can be resolved by simply reading the manga (pacing issues, maintaining interest without dragging on, and shorter flashbacks iirc)
I was hooked immediately after the live action, but I had the advantage of starting the series with an already existent attachment to everyone. I never thought I would ever watch this show, let alone love it like I do, but here I am!
i am so glad you're one of us now, i thought it was too long to get into, and got hooked on Arlong Park, then completely fell in love by Enies Lobby. now im dying in wait for the next manga chapter
I love how Charlie was just like us when we started one piece. “Nobody dies I hate it!” Then Oda started to cook now we don’t want anybody important to die anymore😭
they still need to kill of main characters we still haven't got a single good death it would be much sadder if it was someone we knew for a while then just one arc
It really truly is a “modern odyssey” I started watching it when I was pretty young, so I was honestly hooked pretty much immediately. Im rewatching it for the second time around as I’m older now, and it still maintains that magic
That "300 episodes before it actually starts getting good" is the era of one piece millions of one piece fans wish for to happen again, more interaction with crew, more chill island travel, time on the ship, you cant statisfy everyone i guess, its why some of the show is slice of life other dark and serious and other is fights and action, it has something for everyone, a show kids can watch and adults can enjoy
Yeah,i miss the interaction with the crew and more chill island travel but i guess that will never happen again bcz of how One Piece is in the Final Saga which is Oda gotta be more focused on finding the One Piece and explaining every mystery that ever happen in One Piece
Yeah kinda same? It took a bit for me to get into it too and One Piece got better & more interesting story wise later on but I do miss the chill & laid back parts of earlier one piece. Where I felt the funny crew interactions were actually more funny rather than the same overused jokes later on. I also feel like the later arcs now are quite a bit longer and there's always high stakes & high tension without letting go. Like both eras got their positives & negatives. It did take me a bit to get into One Piece and while I think it's better &more intersting now, I do miss some of the earlier parts as well.
The thing about Luffy before time skip is that Luffy is very casual, outgoing and carefree. But after some events he gets serious and realises that his actions have consequences.
Aka saboudy and marineford and imo that’s where most of his development comes from realizing the scope of which the enemies he’s facing in route to becoming pirate king . And what makes that marineford/saboudy moments so impactful for luffy character is everything we’ve seen up until this point in how luffy always believes he can protect anyone and then seeing he couldn’t even save his brother . I hope he realizes all this whenever he gets there eventually. He has no idea at all about how deep Luffys character eventually gets
the part that really got me wasnt that but when aokiji shows up at the end and stands from outside the party just to tell robin that saul was his friend and to make up for what he was forced to do that day he decided to give her another chance at life and tells her hes glad she finally found friends.
i started watching one piece as a background anime while playing games but i got hooked up after watching jaya, it was such a short but good arc, now i'm at wano after 3 months of watching it and i love it
How can you hate luffy after things like giving nami his hat, or “say you want to live” or, the biggest one for me, luffy vs usopp? That was one of the hardest things he’s had to go through as a captain imo.
Tbh i also remember not liking Luffy as a character in the earlier Arcs ,as i usually compared him with other MCs like Naruto,Eren,Asta all were dumb but had something likeable, however after Sabaody, Marineford,Timeskip Luffy really grew a personality his existence his ties to the story and overall plot moving forward made him likeable
@@unironic-Fe-yi feel like luffy destroying namis room in arlong and luffy protecting the flag for chopper on drum island shows that he’s not just a “stupid” character tho and also idk how charlie liked chopper more than luffy lmao
@@canoMF that shows he's not just a dumb character,but eventually after Sabaody,him leading the show in Amazon,Impeldown,Marineford fleshes out his character completely to show what he feels what his backstory is and how much he values his Nakama until then not everyone can appreciate his goofyness ,his moment with sanji in wholecake is peak depiction of his values but u can see its around ep 800 ,hence good things take time
@@unironic-Fe-yThere's like dozens of other moments of him caring about his friends. He cared two of them up a long mountain, fought the world government over one and used the power of an afro to rescue another.
I kinda like how luffy doesnt kill the villains of the arcs because he views crushing your dreams as a worse fate than dying. Similar how zoro was willing to die for his dream on baratie rather than give up on his dream to live.
The author is so childish not letting the villains die. This is why One piece is catered to kids and manchilds because of the notions of “killing is bad” even if used against the villain.
How could broski not think Luffy had character development after Enies Lobby? It's the arc where the crew gets challenged as a crew, not a traveling group of friends, and Luffy get challenged as an actual captain, not some adventurer with childish dreams just wandering around. He made the hard decision of kicking his BEST FRIEND off the crew because his opinions would endanger the safety of everyone else and Luffy's always had incredible empathy while being very blunt about it.
I like Luffy because of the moments when he shows unexpected amount of emotional intelligence. He will see a crewmate in distress and know exactly what to say or do to snap them out of their funk. In Arlong Park with the hat, the way he immediately looks past the parts of Brook and chopper that they think would scare others. "I still haven't heard you say it" to Robin. It shows that beyond his goofiness he is absolutely paying attention to the issues of the people around him.
The manga takes 1/4 - 1/3 of the time to read as the anime, and arcs like skypiea don't suffer from bad pacing and they're great. The anime does surpass the manga on occasion but it's not as good 99% of the time. But it's still great that you're enjoying the story one way or another.
@@sasagrcevic475 bro emotional intelligence is the understanding and awareness of your own emotions and the emotions of others, that is exactly what luffy is capable of we've seen this especially when it comes to his crew
Im on the same boat as you, charlie. It took me about 6 years of dropping it and coming back to finally get to water 7/enies lobby. Now im loving it, at around ep 540 of the anime. As a fair warning, thriller bark is kinda slow, but the arcs right after it are gold. Good luck and may we all catch up and watch the finale eventually.
I think Charlie will start liking Luffy a little more when he reaches the Saobody Archipelago arc through to Marineford. I feel like Luffy is a lot less dumb and more focused throughout these arcs compared to when he's just goofing off and having an adventure in the earlier arcs with the crew
That's exactly what I was thinking myself based on what he said he doesn't like about him in this video. I can't really remember myself but I kind of remember myself feeling similar to Charlie, not that I didn't like Luffy but in these early arcs he was basically too strong for what they were fighting so Oda always had to find a way to sideline him to make the arcs longer whcih meant he would fall asleep, get lost, or something like eaten by a snake for half the arc before someone would free him and then the finale would begin. Kind of during and after Thriller Bark I think that starts to change once you're on the Warlords and up enemies. And when you get to the Emperors its almost the opposite where he may come to blows with them early just to show how outclassed he is.
@@JohtoBurglar like charlie said it’s either u like him or don’t. i’ve always liked him but i can understand y people wouldn’t. i think luffys role as captain plays a huge role. like imagine zoro attitude as captain. he plays the right hand man perfectly. plus then when luffy does get serious yk something is wrong
@@lorenzosaudito sorry deleted it. i purposefully left out who.. he said his girl watched it so he knows some deaths so i didn’t think twice. but my bad
Luffy has a very subtle character arc, on the surface, he is exactly how you described him, however, as the show progresses and you start to pay more attention to the fine details, it becomes apparent that there is more depth to him than meets the eye. The first sign of inner wisdom was on jaya when luffy and zoro spoke with Blackbeard, as Blackbeard becomes more important, that interaction will also change your outlook on luffy. Luffy vs ussop also sets the tone for how luffy will grow as a character, that was one of his first true tests of his resolve as a captain and we’ll see more of that side of him in the future.
Nope. He is one of the main shounen protagonists that doesn't change. And theres nothing wrong with that. I hate critics who say that a good character is the one who goes through changes. *Character development.* Thats the problem allegedly. What about *character influence?* Naruto, Goku. Talk no jutsu? Luffy doesn't change. They change the people around them. Luffy changed Zoro, Nami , Sanji, Usopp, just to name a few. He got them to join his crew and die for him. That's a solid character. Accepting Ace's death is development. Luffy getting everyone to his side, which is 99% of his character, thats influence. You know what's crazy? We don't judge a person's character this way in real life. Because by this standard, a prison inmate who turned his life around has a better character than a person who has no criminal record. *Because character development.* No. You judge unchanging characters from what others say about him. What he did for others.
To defend Charli a little After 20+ years of reading one piece, Luffy's most prevailing character trait is Stupid and Hungry. Is it true he has other qualities like loyalty, kindness, and empathy, but in all arc Luffy's Stupidity somehow always handicaps him in the first act of every arc just so someone else helps him in the 3rd act.
Kind of crazy as i was in after the first episode. Been watching it since march this year. And absolutely loved my journey so far. Its already my favourite anime. Out of the 300 i've watched. Love the crew. Absolutely love how political the show gets. My favourite story arcs are detailed world building and political and history heavy arcs. So alabasta and fish man island are some of my favourites so far. The actually fighting scenes i'm kind of colder on. Even though i know the power levels and the fighting is the main draw of the show for alot of people and the shonen crowd but for me thats my least favourite parts of the show. I actually prefer the slower character building moments. But the action is still entertaining and the huge battles scenes are epic and necessary for the story. Marineford and impel down were both really great as well. But i like that it feels like its a show that has a little something for everyone.
One of the things I’ve always enjoyed about One Piece was the scale of the world Oda built. We aren’t just following Luffy and his crew, people are out and about doing their own thing and making their own moves. It makes the world feel so much more alive. The Ace vs Blackbeard fight was one of my favorite moments. We the audience knew it happened, but Luffy didn’t have a clue. So the tension was immediately raised in the following arcs. Oda just does a fantastic job at world building and making his world constantly feel alive and moving.
Absolutely. This is even more evident if you read the manga and see the little stories that go on in the title cards. Every character we meet truly matters and exists, and that's an amazing aspect of One Piece that I, as a reader of a looot of Shounen Jump, can appreciate
Funny that you mention the rest of the world making their moves and mentioned specifically Ace vs Blackbeard since *spoilers* In the manga we see all of the schemes of Blackbeard coming into fruition right now and the chapter that released just today is about Garp's fight against his commanders (notably Aokiji) to rescue Koby who had been kidnapped
It's a shame he doesn't like Luffy, Hell I like pre time skip Luffy more than post time skip Luffy because he has so many memorable moments, His fight against Ussop, Him charismatically holding Zoro hostage with either death or freedom at their first encounter. One of Luffy's greatest aspects is his emotional Intelligence, he can always read his crewmates emotions, respecting Ussops duel, Waiting for Nami to ask him for help first during Arlong park, Forcing Robin to say what she actually feels despite her sacrifice, The entirety of his relationship with Sanji during Whole cake island arc. That level of understanding keeps his crew together and boiling down his character to this goofy loudmouth idiot that is practically useless for 10-20 episodes before fighting the big bad is understandable but letting that side of his character affect your perception of what truly makes him a great character and leader is a bit undeserving.
luffy is one of the very few protagonists in anime(and media in general) to consistently rank number 1 in every popularity poll in his series. luffy gets series when needed, and he's much more perceptive than people give him credit for. he subtly develops as time goes on, his battles are extremely interesting to watch, his battle IQ is incredible. luffy just keeps getting better and better. the key to enjoying one piece is honestly just "Patience" expecting instant gratification will not get you anywhere with this show. or just read the manga for the amazing pacing
I think a lot of Luffy's emotional intelligence just makes him seem like an idiot because the Shounen genre and a lot of popular anime in general have the common trait of dense or outright stupid main characters. A lot of Luffy's development as well is seen better in hindsight once you've reached certain points of the story. The first few times where Luffy is being actually smart is easily written off as a coincedence but slowly it begins to add up and you realize who Luffy really is and why he does what he does.
One major flaw with the anime in general is that it was constantly being produced while the manga was being made. There’s no breaks between seasons so that the next manga chapters can finish, which leads to some parts being dragged on for 20 episodes (AKA Luffy in the snake) so that the manga can get ahead of the anime
It speaks to the strength of the story that people actually watch the anime. When I read the manga I get how it’s the most popular manga of all time but I can’t fathom the people who watch the anime.
Its even worse now. They just stretch everything out so much with extra reactions and extra flashy stuff, which really destroys the pace. The anime these days is better to watch the canon clips of good manga moments on yt. You still have to play it on 1.25 speed tho
I don't blame you. It took me forever to get to Water 7. Once I got there, I caught up faaaast to episode 1035 (it was the latest episode released at the time I caught up) and I'm on my second rewatch now.
I think it’s worth pointing out that Pel was supposed to die in the explosion, but the chapter of the manga where the bomb goes off came out literally just a few days before 9/11, and so Oda decided having a character die in an explosion was in bad taste, so he basically retconned it so pel survived even though he didn’t have an explanation for how he lived
A character based in a middle-east inspired country, no-less. Its understandable but I wonder if he'd be willing to un-retcon it now that time has passed. Like in a Remastered version
I think you have to look back at Luffy’s big moments and see that when he switches goober mode off, he’s so fun to watch. Arlong, Crocodile, Rob Lucci; these fights force him to zone in during the fight and realize what is at stake. It’s not just the fights either, it is also when his crew needs him. Throughout the entire series, any time a member of the crew or a future member of the crew is in need, he fights for their freedom. Nami in Arlong Park and Robin in Enies Lobby are the two biggest examples, but they happen more often than you think.
Yeah but he has to turn goober mode off, which means charlie would presumably go back to not enjoying his character until the next time he’s out of goober mode . If you don’t enjoy a character like 60-80% of the time it’s safe to say you don’t like that character
@@boopinoop4545idk man the goober man is still part of luffy's core of freedom and adventure, which pairs along with his serious freedom fighting. I get not liking dumbassery but man hating the whole character for it means something is not being understood
@@DJ-sn2wn it’s that situation of “expecting the characters to always be smart in anime” when the whole cast of characters are for the most part not really smart at all, they are just human, which makes One Piece so relatable
The childish nature of Luffy and the humorous moments that occurred in the pre-timeskip arcs are what drew me in. I was hooked since the Arlong Park arc. Seeing Luffy get serious was so rewarding. Once you hopefully catch up, you’ll come to miss these old arcs and the older animation style. There’s also an incredible amount of foreshadowing in the first few arcs that get explained in much later arcs.
I agree, everyone says that it only gets good later but I thought it was great from the start. My hot take is that I think the beginning arcs in the anime are better than what we have currently
Early Luffy was really goofy, and that honestly was only enjoyable for those fans who started OP as a kid. It’s why some adults like Charlie starting the show later on, are not a fan of early Luffy.
Although there are certain biases against killing characters and such due to it being originally written for a younger audience, those mostly go away later in the show. I would say that one piece is a show that matured with it's audience over time, and if that is your main criticism then you will only start to like it more and more as you get further.
At the time that Enies Lobby was airing, the anime was dangerously close to catching up to the manga and running out of material to adapt. The studio wanted to keep up the weekly episodes rather than take a break, and that’s why they added those weird filler episodes in the middle of such a climactic moment. That’s also why Luffy was stuck in the snake belly for so long back in Spypeia. The anime really likes to play up Luffy’s lack of awareness for the sake of padding time.
Yeah I always thought of that as well, if it gets too close to the anime then they either have to delay the episodes or do a fullmetal alchemist and go it's own route which is a very heavy gamble and also not the story oda wants
Thats a really weak excuse, if they dont have chapters to adapt, wait... thats the most obvious decision and what most anime do to make it enjoyable, adding filler and dragging shit out for the sole purpose of not wanting to take a break is fucking braindead...
I was hooked by Arlong Park cause how can you not be??? Luffy's enthusiasm is contagious, and that whole arc is just perfect. The scene where Nami's crying and trying to cut her tat off and kicking sand at Luffy but he gives her his hat. GOD DAMN
@@TheWarden04well put, yeah I got into one piece really heavy around baratie when Mihawk shows up. I was in it for the adventure so the lengthbwas exciting for me and the quality and payoff has been huge since specially in terms of the lore and world building that comes together
This was me. I was so close to giving up after skypiea. My friend begged me to wait till water 7. I’m so glad I did. I’m on dressrosa now and I’m just so obsessed
I can't wait for Charlie to get to Marineford, I 100% understand why he sees Luffy as annoying, so I'm interested in hearing what Charlie has to say once Luffy begins maturing and developing as a character from that arc forward
So weird that you committed to 300 episodes before you actually enjoyed it. I read it so my experience was different, but I was gripped from chapter 1 and enjoyed a lot of the East Blue saga. Baratia was the first arc that really got to me continue the series. The Aarlong Park is THE arc that decides if you’ll be a fan of the series.
I can’t imagine a show taking 300 episodes to get good. Like sailor moon is only 300 episodes, One piece took the entirety of sailor moons run to get good
@yamiyugi6031 It's all a matter of subjectivity. Some people like it from the start, some people think it gets good after 100, 300, 800 episodes, or whatever. And some fully catch up and don't like any of it (there are people like that, seriously). I say all this to state that I think that the show is good from the start, and I disagree that it takes that long to get good. It's about taste, perspective, and preference in storytelling. It doesn't have to be for everyone, but you say it like it's a fact that EVERYONE thinks it's bad till Ep.300.
Props to you for putting up with 200+ episodes till you made it. Double props for joining team Zoro! Can't wait to see when Charlie sees the deaths he wants so badly. See you in the war arc!
The fact that you said you fell asleep during a lot of one piece is very understandable but also crazy to me, guess the better parts do come after the crew gets brook
I think the complaints about Luffy are valid, but I think it's more understandable when you know his motivation. Luffy essentially just wants to have fun and go on an adventure. It's why he doesn't bat an eye when Buggy is about to chop his head off. It's why he doesn't go out of his way to kill the villains. Luffy just wants to be free and go on adventures with his friends. One thing i think is easy to miss is how he so readily and fully believes in his friends' dreams no matter how ridiculous. Nami and Sanji for example almost always get laughed at even by their closest friends for having ridiculous goals, but Luffy just believes them right away. To him it's just a matter of fact that they'll one day achieve their dreams even if everyone else would say otherwise. All his crew in turn trust him completely as well. It's his power to bring people together and make them believe in each other so completely that makes him a good protagonist imo.
@@EthanP. I think it entirely depends, part of Luffy's charm is that he's silly, goofy, stupid, but gets serious when he actually needs to. It's a bit like Goku but even more stupid and silly. People either really like that or really dislike that. Most One Piece fans have Luffy in top3 because they either liked him from the beginning or watched enough for Luffy to have fights that make you really like him because of the fights and eventually fell in love with his charm as well. People who don't have Luffy in their top3 normally just didn't put in the time because an unenjoyable MC is normally a motivation for people to drop a series and if they dropped it then they can't really be called a "one piece fan" because they watched 20 episodes and decided the annoying MC is too annoying and they cba to watch a show with an annoying MC.
@@Maiyukiii ive never met someone IRL that didnt like luffy off rip. goku comparison is great tho always kinda say luffy as a better version of goku tho they do have clear differences. namley gokus fighting obsession to the point hell endanger the entire world for a good fight
It’s unfortunate it took you that long to enjoy one piece but I understand. Personally I enjoyed it from the beginning and like the character interactions and found the humor funny. After being caught up I thought back and appreciated the earlier stages of one piece how it was less serious and had more crew interaction. The story overall is amazing and the later arcs get so much better.
Seriously, i was skeptical before starting it. But the pre time skip humor and drama especially before the grand line instantly clicks with me, post time skip is great but lacks a certain charm for me, but the fights and animations definitely improved by lots.
Personally I find arcs too long for nothing. I still read until the end of wano arc but seriously so dam long. That's why I prefer nowadays mangas better except if they ( old mangas ) are really good. Like I kind of liked DBZ and Naruto. Bleach, OPM are prob my fav. Not counting isekai I read since a lot of them are shit compared to these shows. But One Piece, meh. Just my opinion. I have a friend who watch the anime and it's the only anime he watches. One of my teacher too and I still respect them. But ain't no way I would be able to watch the whole thing. The pacing is soooo slow.
Fyi Charlie, there's only 98 filler episodes in One Piece. Oda doesn't make Filler, he makes Fan Fiction about his own stuff and gives it to us. Those flashbacks aren't filler, they'll be important later.
Luffy’s development is significant but more human and grounded he doesn’t just completely change after something traumatic happens he does learn but he always slips up and it makes his character so much deeper and human than any other in the show
eh not really, he’s still his normal self, but yea he does become a bit more dependable but he is still doing things that gets him and his crew in trouble
@@dblevsTM- it’s actually his crew that gets him in trouble. Like literally any request the crew makes Luffy answers half of it except for the turning back parts and even then it gets out voted.
Luffy starts getting more serious whenever the situation is serious. I understand why you don't like him but I genuinely love his character, he is a good blend of serious and happy. He's the embodiment of happiness.
@@adam-lu4vr I kind of get him because I feel the same way towards goku in db super. He's way too immature and doesn't take anything seriously 90% of the time.
Luffy's personality is a hold over from all the other main protagonists of the time when the manga was originally written. A lot of Shonen anime had the dumb happy go lucky protagonist that loved to eat is just that now a days all those manga stopped and the only big characters that are still like that are Goku and Luffy. Times have definitely changed
Yeah a lot of His complaints about no stakes luffys character and no one getting killed off his reaction once he makes the time skip I look forward to it
Luffys development after enies lobby was a more important one imo, post marineford luffy learned he needed to be stronger, and found out the true scope of the world and how much stronger he needed to become, but enies lobby/water 7 taught luffy that he has responsibilities, being strong and beating up the strongest guy can’t solve everything, he needed to become someone they cud follow without hesitation, someone who would be their guide, which imo is the most important for luffy as his role as captain on his ship, which I think critikal majorly looks over in his watching of the series
@@K1_Trains I have serious doubts he'll be able to get through the Paramount War. He despises Luffy cause he can't stand his carefree and dense personality and there's literally like 200 episodes of just following Luffy by himself
Water 7 is the point where One Piece hits different is because that’s when the straw hat crew truly feels like they earned the title of pirate. It’s a lovely story. I love one piece… it’s worth the journey, especially right now.
I agree with the no killing thing. What really pissed me off was when Conis's father was struck down my Eneru's wrath, and supposedly died, but then mysteriously comes back, claiming to have been in the clouds. It really pisses me off.
My half-brother has been watching this show since 2009, and he has completed the show around ten times. I didn't believe that mf until he told me every detail of every episode. Absolutely crazy.
Worst part if OP is they basically have to do one ep a week. The terrible pacing and filler later on really taints the series. Its so refreshing reading the manga and waiting for anime. Just all story
The dude not dying in the nuke explosion is something i knew would be brought up somewhere and he's not the only one who didn't die when he cleary should have
I really think a lot of his complaints about pacing stem from the fact that he’s watching the anime. It drags absolutely everything out, even the punches which you’d tend to imagine as fast from how their depicted in the manga. For example, in Long Ring Long Land they added a whole bunch of extra things that weren’t in the manga, making it like thirty episodes longer than it should’ve been. The manga is just the superior version of the story in my opinion, and I can say this considering that I watched over 200 episodes of the show and dropped it. After that I was told to read it instead, which turned out to be a much better experience. Now it’s one of my favorite pieces of fiction.
That's fair, the manga pacing is like 10x better. That being said towards the latter half of one piece (mainly wano) the fights go harddd, I'd recommend watching those, plus the special moments when they say smth inspirational or emotional or whatever
I agree that the manga is overall superior when it comes to pacing, but I still have one huge gripe with it. Oda's artstyle has severely regressed after the timeskip. Current one piece manga has this awful thick linework with messy ink and the shading is often this weird patchy spiderweb. Panels with nice composition are ruined with a bunch of reaction faces, most likely to give the "1 episode of manga to 1 episode of anime" toei pacing some stuff to padd out the episode runtime. Oda also has a nasty habit of adding pointless clutter to his drawing, like a bunch of "energy lines" flying out when a character throws a punch (and I am not talking about haki here). The characters also have this strange white fade around them to help them stick out from the cluttered background, which again he wouldn't even need to do is he didn't clutter the pages with fuzzy ink. Go and look at the latest chapter and then go check out the first. The difference is night and day and it is not a good improvement.
The pacing wasn’t bad until the time skip. Also ik it’s a sacrilege to say that and I’ve been reading the manga for years now but the anime is better than the manga. You get voice acting, animation, music etc. It’s more fun to follow the anime (until dressrosa)
i'm sad to hear that it took until Enies Lobby to finally rope you in, but i am delighted to hear that it DID. i was hooked in Arlong Park and a lot of the fans agree with me when i say Nami's Plea is a pivotal moment in the show, but i understand that it's not a show for everyone. either way, huge props to you for actually staying on the ride and legitimately keeping an open mind and waiting to see if the show spoke to you. im glad that it got there eventually! also Enies Lobby has always been my favorite arc and i doubt that will change until our goofy band of misfits finally makes it onto the final island and uncovers the greatest treasure in the world
I absolutely agree with you. To me, arlong parked really pulled me in with the emotions they up in. Before that, all bosses just seemed so boring and weak and I could really acre less about them but then arlong came along and really showed me how satifying it was for luffy to destroy him.
I started watching it recently and the crew have just landed in alabasta. So far I'm enjoying it and zoro, nami and new addition chopper are all great but genuine question, when do luffy and usopp get more fleshed out? so far I'm with Charlie that Luffy is BY FAR my least favourite character. He seemed more intelligent and emotionally mature as a child in his flashback then he does currently and his "always on" stupidity really takes away any tension the show tries to build if Luffy is in the scene. I enjoyed Usopps introduction and his compulsive lying to make others feel better and liven up his town was a neat switch-up on an otherwise negative characteristic but there has been so many moments already where it feels like he's resolved himself and is going to change and make more of an effort and then next episode he immediately reverts back. I plan on continuing the show egardless but I'd mostly like to know if this is something I'm gonna have to deal with throughout or if they actually have a character arc and become more likable people with more nuance to their character, especially Luffy who right now is just "hehe im stupid, I like meat and am stupidly strong" on NON STOP REPEAT. Hell Goku was dense but he was never as outright stupid like Luffy is sometimes which is saying something lmao.
@@reindogfan that's entirely fair honestly, I can see how Luffy looks one-dimensional early on. I would argue that very soon after Alabasta Luffy begins to realize that he has to take his journey much more seriously, as the main villain of Alabasta kinda fucks him up a bit 😂 As for Usopp, he has a much more hidden growth that's hard to see unless you really pay attention to who he is as a character. I don't want to say anything else because parts of it are pretty solid spoilers but I hope you enjoy the rest of your journey!
Im not too far into One Piece considering how long its been since i started watching (Ep 263) but One Piece has just got a grip on me now especially after i made it water 7. I felt so worn put from foxy pirates but water 7 was there to bring me right back especially because i finally got to see SogeKing and Ussop in general was really interesting this arc i cant wait for Luffy vs Lucci since their rematch is happening as of this comment being written.
Oda said he doesn't like to kill characters because he enjoys the parties at the end of the arc and death puts a damper on that, which I can respect and for a protagonist that's so innocent/only gets serious when it's needed is nice. That said the deaths that do happen hit hard and have major impacts on the character/world. It's not conventional but Oda expressly didn't want Luffy to be a cookie cutter version of the typical shonen protagonists
Oda might not like killing off his characters, but when he does… it’s truly something special. So not having many deaths in the story makes the deaths that do happen much more emotional.
@@asoleieifretton7578 yeah, its REALLY hard for people to not know Ace dies before he dies these days. It's posted so often on every related One Piece, pretty much any OP Forum has decided that things are not spoilers unless it hasnt been animated yet.
Special my ass. Nothing is shocking about one piece‘s death scenes. Until now only WB and Ace died who we have seen basically nothing about. I mean the flash back came right after ace died which was the dumbest decision ever. We should know the characters first before they get killed off. Also in over 1000 episodes only 2 characters died and that in the same arc. And you call that special?
Honestly Robins whole story is one of the best/saddest next to Sanjis. Her best friend telling her "No ones born to be alone" speech while him and everyone she knows dies around her by the world government hits me HARD even know I get goosebumps... one of the best speech's in the show so far.
@@felixgutierrez993 It hits close for me. I bounced around in foster homes until a wonderful family took me in. I know how it feels to be rejected by everyone until finally someone accepts you.
@@ulrald8864 I have teared up a few times across a handful of anime, outside of that the only other type of media that has made me get the sniffles. Was the one scene in 'I am legend' where will smith has to strangle his dog to death. But outside of that no other movie, show, or game has done it.
One Piece always had me from the start, personally (episode 1). It's not for everyone, but the main "hook" was "The Walk" from Arlong Park for me, where I saw just what this series was capable of, and then Water 7 was the moment One Piece reached true elevation for me. Glad to see Charlie's found his moment, even if it did take longer than expected.
as a kid, i used to watch one piece while its still ongoing. It was in arlong park at the time. But then i stopped and a few years later, i rewatch back from the start and knew im gonna love it the moment that goofy rubber ball jumped out of the barrel
Enies lobby was when i really started to like the show too, but it wasnt until marineford that i truly fell in love with it, after dressrosa it became my favorite show of all time, its definitely a slow burn but you fall more and more in love with it as you go
Welcome aboard, Charlie
what
@@nhtdushbro was flabbergasted
Edit: to definitely be that guy thanks for the likes
Edit 2: it’s joever, I’m cooked I can never recover from edit 1.
Charlie got Crunchyroll himself commenting 😭
Get crunched Charlie.
Rrrr, I pirate my anime
The fact he made it through the foxy arc means he's a real fan
Real
Long ring long land is where laugh tale is
Bro i hated him and the anime makes it worse haha
👀
The Davy back fight seems like filler, but it’s actually not, when they meet again at that resort place is filler tho
Luffys tenacity is what makes him a legend to me, idk how you can watch his fights with arlong, crocodile and Rob Lucci and still just boil him down to some stupid guy. He feels genuine anger on behalf of the oppressed, he sheds tears for his friends gets the shit beaten out of him putting his life on the line for others. He does often put them in a difficult situation, but because his intentions are always to help the oppressed, those people end up joining his side and balancing the scales, resulting in a super satisfying victory after a steep and tenacious uphill climb.
Yeah seeing luffy fight with ussop and turn his back while crying after beating him hit me. Charlie wasn’t watching one piece he was watching two halves
Him shitting on skypiea luffy actually hurt my soul because that arc is what made luffy a legend for me
The entire arc was built around luffy wanting to prove that the sky island exists, that being said we get to watch luffy just explore and have a goofy fuck around of a time on AN ISLAND IN THE SKY THAT WE NOW KNOW DOES EXIST and all the while he is slowly putting together what’s going on around the island, it takes such a long time to build up that you start to think “wow this luffy guy is really just fucking off around this arc” and then you get to the climax of his enel fight and all of a sudden you realize that THE ENTIRE TIME LUFFY WAS FUCKING AROUND ON THIS ISLAND HE ONLY HAD ONE GOAL SHOOTING THROUGH HIS MIND AND IT WAS TO RING THAT FUCKING BELL
DUDE LITERALLY TUNNEL VISIONED AN ENTIRE ARC JUST TO PROVE TO A GUY HE KNEW FOR TWO DAYS THAT THERE REALLY WAS SOMETHING UP THERE AND HIS LIFES WORK WASNT FOR NOTHING
it’s just such a grand beautiful payoff, and that’s when I realized luffy wasn’t dumb, he just goes with the flow with only one singular goal in mind and he doesn’t stop until that goal is achieved regardless of everything that gets in his way because he’s just a pirate on his own journey. Skypiea luffy changed the entire game for me and his tunnel vision has held strong through the entire manga and I CANT wait to see the inevitable end.
Wish Charlie could see the in between where luffy secretly knows what he wants in every arc and accomplishes it 99% of the time
The problem is anybody that's been watching anime for years knows you can find that same "Tenacity" in 9/10 Shonen protagonists
But he is stupid tho, I'm already in manga chapter 806 and he still is kinda anoying
@@fernandoruizayala5040 hate to tell you this but you reading a lil too sloppy if u still boil him down to just stupid by that point in the story
Starting at Thriller Bark I only watch the manga canon episodes and that works wonders for the one piece grind. Happy watching Charlie!
Luffy is the simple solution to complex problems. Sanji being trapped on Baratie due to a debt is solved by Luffy saying to “just leave”, his solution to Nami’s financially slavery by Arlong is just “ok I’ll beat him up”. His neutrality to everything around him and make the simpliest solutions come true is always wonderful
Facts and once he watches luffys backstory and once luffys actions start having severe consequences. He will fall in love. Certainly. The stakes go from a 3 to a 10 by the end.
thats the way he does it, he got ultimate freedom
@@jimjason5146I have a hard time believing he’ll love Luffy even after Marineford. If it takes that much for you to enjoy a character, especially a mostly stagnant character like Luffy, his opinion won’t change much.
@lesten2707 seeing him repeatedly getting his A** beat for his friends and just what lengths he will go to for his friends adds a lot and makes you respect him more. The way he tries to help his enemies as well is admirable. And once Conquerors haki is introduced, it really explains why he can't back down. For example repeatedly trying to punch the inside of the snake 🤣. He is hard-headed, and through effort alone, he triumphs. And later in the story he gets more serious because they are in actual danger being at war with the yonkos and the marine's OP captains.
@lesten2707 but you may be right, it is subjective, but IMO he's the dopest Shonen character ever, with ichigo being my 2nd.
Still unfortunate to hear he hated the first 300 episodes so much 😭 definitely starts peaking around water seven but i got hooked at like baratie or arlong park
i got hooked when he punched out the barrel tbh i love this series
the first 300 are my favourite. same as jojo s1 its something completely different and enjoyable
Yeah I got hooked by Arlong Park too.
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lol i got hooked when zoro joined and arlong park but it prob helped that i was younger and a lot of the comedy hit a lot more and second time rewatching it i got to enjoy all the details and foreshadowing
Welcome to the journey 💜 glad you finally started to enjoy it. I had basically the same experience as you took me around 2 years to get to where you at but, as like you did started to enjoy it thoroughly that being said and tbh it’s changed my life. It gets better.
youre still just startin dude, and im glad.
Cant wait for the many times your mind gets sooo hardly blown by different realisations about the story, oda and so on.
MUch fun man!!
I always feel so sorry for him when he talks about how slow the pacing is. Poor guy doesn't know he's still in the "fast-paced" era that actually adapts more than 10 pages per episode
If he’s struggling now I feel like he has no chance of getting through dressrosa
🥲🥲🥲 imagine dressrosa in anime 😭. At this point he HAS to read the manga.
@@harnessedcomic4381ong as soon as i finished Dressrosa i vowed to skip right to the Doffy fight upon rewatch cause Dressrosa is paced so fucking bad. did you know that Rebecca's flashback is shown FIFTY-TWO TIMES throughout Dressrosa's entire course? holy shit.
@@p-__ bro what
Exactly just wait till u reach the doflamingo arc charlie, that shit is the slowest thing ever
I feel like so many of Charlie's criticisms can be resolved by simply reading the manga (pacing issues, maintaining interest without dragging on, and shorter flashbacks iirc)
My thoughts exactly.
"reading" the manga? only nerds read 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
guys this was a joke stop being so pressed lol
boy he's gonna be in for a rough ride in dressrosa if he elects to watch it instead of read it lol
Exactly, all of the problems he mentions are anime only problems, except for character deaths of course
@@heathenisedjust say you have the attention span of a goldfish
I was hooked immediately after the live action, but I had the advantage of starting the series with an already existent attachment to everyone. I never thought I would ever watch this show, let alone love it like I do, but here I am!
i am so glad you're one of us now, i thought it was too long to get into, and got hooked on Arlong Park, then completely fell in love by Enies Lobby. now im dying in wait for the next manga chapter
Boyo doesn't like Luffy or believe in freedom...how is he one of us?
I love how Charlie was just like us when we started one piece. “Nobody dies I hate it!” Then Oda started to cook now we don’t want anybody important to die anymore😭
sabo gave me a heart attack
@@zuhayerkhan2957i wish sabo died
they still need to kill of main characters we still haven't got a single good death it would be much sadder if it was someone we knew for a while then just one arc
1087 had me shivering
@@BlueDiorr are you caught up with the manga? Because boy you’re in for a treat
“He’s either stupid, or stupid and hungry.” The funniest thing is that Charlie doesn’t even realize the crew feels the exact same way😂😂
Like wait until you hear the crew explain to Law about Luffy 💀😂
@@HenryHaskie-un3rrthat’s literally how they view him😭😭 and sorry you got two bots to respond to you, my condolences
Stupidly loveable is what he is. 🥹 i love my luffster sm
This Charlie guy lacks media literacy
@@luffyzzz8022 I disagree at least the was able to start one piece.
everyone's first thought
"how did this happen?"
charlie: "i just finished water 7 and enies lobby"
"oh so thats how"
It really truly is a “modern odyssey” I started watching it when I was pretty young, so I was honestly hooked pretty much immediately. Im rewatching it for the second time around as I’m older now, and it still maintains that magic
That "300 episodes before it actually starts getting good" is the era of one piece millions of one piece fans wish for to happen again, more interaction with crew, more chill island travel, time on the ship, you cant statisfy everyone i guess, its why some of the show is slice of life other dark and serious and other is fights and action, it has something for everyone, a show kids can watch and adults can enjoy
So true 😂
Yep
Yeah,i miss the interaction with the crew and more chill island travel but i guess that will never happen again bcz of how One Piece is in the Final Saga which is Oda gotta be more focused on finding the One Piece and explaining every mystery that ever happen in One Piece
Yeah kinda same? It took a bit for me to get into it too and One Piece got better & more interesting story wise later on but I do miss the chill & laid back parts of earlier one piece. Where I felt the funny crew interactions were actually more funny rather than the same overused jokes later on.
I also feel like the later arcs now are quite a bit longer and there's always high stakes & high tension without letting go.
Like both eras got their positives & negatives. It did take me a bit to get into One Piece and while I think it's better &more intersting now, I do miss some of the earlier parts as well.
Yeah ngl I miss those days
The thing about Luffy before time skip is that Luffy is very casual, outgoing and carefree. But after some events he gets serious and realises that his actions have consequences.
@@p-__ what the fuck?
Aka saboudy and marineford and imo that’s where most of his development comes from realizing the scope of which the enemies he’s facing in route to becoming pirate king . And what makes that marineford/saboudy moments so impactful for luffy character is everything we’ve seen up until this point in how luffy always believes he can protect anyone and then seeing he couldn’t even save his brother . I hope he realizes all this whenever he gets there eventually. He has no idea at all about how deep Luffys character eventually gets
@@p-__I agree
"nobody dies in this show" oh boy
after he gets an order of donuts, and they end up burned, he has his epiphany.
3 months after this video released, I have started and caught up to one piece. It became an obsession I never thought I would have. WE ARE !!!!!!
Bro wtf
IN 3 MONTHS! brother how jobless do you gotta be to have time for that
@@0hubi funny enough I watched it at work haha
Holy fuck
I recently started watching One Piece too and Water 7 was such an amazing saga. Everything i’ve seen past there has been great too
The scene in enies lobby where robin says she wants to live, that whole sequence never fails to make me cry. Shit hits me hard
And just so you didn't miss it, they replayed it in like 10 sequential episodes lol
THIS COMMENT RIGHT HERE
Trueee
the part that really got me wasnt that but when aokiji shows up at the end and stands from outside the party just to tell robin that saul was his friend and to make up for what he was forced to do that day he decided to give her another chance at life and tells her hes glad she finally found friends.
after that, the death of going merry. that shit hits you the 2nd time haha
Marineford is like the point of no return. Once the epicness of Whitebeard and his legacy are witnessed there’s no more doubt.
Such a crazy arc, so many emotions, sad moments, crazy fights, lots of new characters introduced
the only deaths in onepiece leave real impact
Honestly the only time I liked One Piece
If you don’t like ONE PIECE after Marine Ford then you should probably quit watching cause that’s as good as it gets
@@sovietonion4487Wano is better
i started watching one piece as a background anime while playing games but i got hooked up after watching jaya, it was such a short but good arc, now i'm at wano after 3 months of watching it and i love it
4:32 you just wait until he learns about donuts in a future arc
How can you hate luffy after things like giving nami his hat, or “say you want to live” or, the biggest one for me, luffy vs usopp? That was one of the hardest things he’s had to go through as a captain imo.
yeah I can see luffy being dumb being a turn off but it's definitely not all he is
Tbh i also remember not liking Luffy as a character in the earlier Arcs ,as i usually compared him with other MCs like Naruto,Eren,Asta all were dumb but had something likeable, however after Sabaody, Marineford,Timeskip Luffy really grew a personality his existence his ties to the story and overall plot moving forward made him likeable
@@unironic-Fe-yi feel like luffy destroying namis room in arlong and luffy protecting the flag for chopper on drum island shows that he’s not just a “stupid” character tho and also idk how charlie liked chopper more than luffy lmao
@@canoMF that shows he's not just a dumb character,but eventually after Sabaody,him leading the show in Amazon,Impeldown,Marineford fleshes out his character completely to show what he feels what his backstory is and how much he values his Nakama until then not everyone can appreciate his goofyness ,his moment with sanji in wholecake is peak depiction of his values but u can see its around ep 800 ,hence good things take time
@@unironic-Fe-yThere's like dozens of other moments of him caring about his friends. He cared two of them up a long mountain, fought the world government over one and used the power of an afro to rescue another.
I kinda like how luffy doesnt kill the villains of the arcs because he views crushing your dreams as a worse fate than dying. Similar how zoro was willing to die for his dream on baratie rather than give up on his dream to live.
You just sound stupid 😂😂😂 “ohhh let them live because they have dreams too and I don’t want to crush them omg 😱 “ you OP fans are literal Kids
Also the villains come back stronger or as allies which is more interesting than never seeing them again
This aged horribly
not confirmed dead! we all thought bird man in alabasta was dead and hes not.@@andrew_ds0
The author is so childish not letting the villains die. This is why One piece is catered to kids and manchilds because of the notions of “killing is bad” even if used against the villain.
You gonna love the next arcs.
you should try one pace. it makes the pacing so much better and removes filler. after timeskip it is torture
How could broski not think Luffy had character development after Enies Lobby? It's the arc where the crew gets challenged as a crew, not a traveling group of friends, and Luffy get challenged as an actual captain, not some adventurer with childish dreams just wandering around. He made the hard decision of kicking his BEST FRIEND off the crew because his opinions would endanger the safety of everyone else and Luffy's always had incredible empathy while being very blunt about it.
Its because he still is very annoying lol
@booba1989 but he grow as a character. Just not how you wanted
@@Booba-1L take he that's just a gag
@@Bestkorok A gag that lasts forever isn't funny 💀
@@kflow250 He can grow as a character sure, but that doesn't change the issue had with him so it isn't gonna keep me in lol
I like Luffy because of the moments when he shows unexpected amount of emotional intelligence. He will see a crewmate in distress and know exactly what to say or do to snap them out of their funk. In Arlong Park with the hat, the way he immediately looks past the parts of Brook and chopper that they think would scare others. "I still haven't heard you say it" to Robin. It shows that beyond his goofiness he is absolutely paying attention to the issues of the people around him.
Absolutely this 👏
Emotional intelligence is a great word to use for him
He's so good at reading people, especially his crewmates
he's literally like momonosuke mentor
Luffy is trash. Gojo could easily destroy him
JJK > One Piece
listening you talking about pre timeskip characters makes me think, "do i even know all of them?" imma rewatch all one piece
Arlong park was what got me really hooked. I’m now post timeskip and almost done with fishman island. It’s actually such an incredible show
The manga takes 1/4 - 1/3 of the time to read as the anime, and arcs like skypiea don't suffer from bad pacing and they're great. The anime does surpass the manga on occasion but it's not as good 99% of the time. But it's still great that you're enjoying the story one way or another.
True, i mainly read manga, but sometimes i will watch anime if I know there is super cool moment and toei will do great job animating it.
That's why One Pace exists
@@krystiano.610 One Pace is not even close to being finished. Not even Baratie arc is 100% done and One Pace can't fix the bad humor and plot armor.
The manga take 1/20 of the time to read compared to the anime.
The anime is only good for boss fights. But... You have to spend 50 episodes like db bs...
Luffy is very smart, in his own way. His emotional intelligence and combat prowess are on another level
@@macca_7th645Nami didn’t really cause Alabasta and Arlong park wasn’t something she could fix
@@macca_7th645 You 2 dont know what emotional intelligence is ffs google it at least.
@@sasagrcevic475 i mean they are correct on luffy being emotionally inteligente
@@sasagrcevic475 bro emotional intelligence is the understanding and awareness of your own emotions and the emotions of others, that is exactly what luffy is capable of we've seen this especially when it comes to his crew
He’s so annoying tho
please give us an update on your thoughts, i wanna hear your opinion on 5th gear
Im on the same boat as you, charlie. It took me about 6 years of dropping it and coming back to finally get to water 7/enies lobby.
Now im loving it, at around ep 540 of the anime.
As a fair warning, thriller bark is kinda slow, but the arcs right after it are gold.
Good luck and may we all catch up and watch the finale eventually.
Brace for Dressrosa! ✌
I think Charlie will start liking Luffy a little more when he reaches the Saobody Archipelago arc through to Marineford. I feel like Luffy is a lot less dumb and more focused throughout these arcs compared to when he's just goofing off and having an adventure in the earlier arcs with the crew
@@jacobzukaitis2995spoiler
That's exactly what I was thinking myself based on what he said he doesn't like about him in this video. I can't really remember myself but I kind of remember myself feeling similar to Charlie, not that I didn't like Luffy but in these early arcs he was basically too strong for what they were fighting so Oda always had to find a way to sideline him to make the arcs longer whcih meant he would fall asleep, get lost, or something like eaten by a snake for half the arc before someone would free him and then the finale would begin. Kind of during and after Thriller Bark I think that starts to change once you're on the Warlords and up enemies. And when you get to the Emperors its almost the opposite where he may come to blows with them early just to show how outclassed he is.
yall *have* to let it go, Luffy is an an unlikable character
@@JohtoBurglar like charlie said it’s either u like him or don’t. i’ve always liked him but i can understand y people wouldn’t. i think luffys role as captain plays a huge role. like imagine zoro attitude as captain. he plays the right hand man perfectly. plus then when luffy does get serious yk something is wrong
@@lorenzosaudito sorry deleted it. i purposefully left out who.. he said his girl watched it so he knows some deaths so i didn’t think twice. but my bad
Luffy has a very subtle character arc, on the surface, he is exactly how you described him, however, as the show progresses and you start to pay more attention to the fine details, it becomes apparent that there is more depth to him than meets the eye. The first sign of inner wisdom was on jaya when luffy and zoro spoke with Blackbeard, as Blackbeard becomes more important, that interaction will also change your outlook on luffy. Luffy vs ussop also sets the tone for how luffy will grow as a character, that was one of his first true tests of his resolve as a captain and we’ll see more of that side of him in the future.
Wait til he watches usopp go backwards as a character in wano lmao he's gonna be pissed
Not even that far in the series in arlong park, pay attention to how he treats nami before he marches to the fight
Nope. He is one of the main shounen protagonists that doesn't change. And theres nothing wrong with that. I hate critics who say that a good character is the one who goes through changes. *Character development.* Thats the problem allegedly.
What about *character influence?* Naruto, Goku. Talk no jutsu? Luffy doesn't change. They change the people around them. Luffy changed Zoro, Nami , Sanji, Usopp, just to name a few. He got them to join his crew and die for him. That's a solid character. Accepting Ace's death is development. Luffy getting everyone to his side, which is 99% of his character, thats influence.
You know what's crazy? We don't judge a person's character this way in real life. Because by this standard, a prison inmate who turned his life around has a better character than a person who has no criminal record. *Because character development.* No. You judge unchanging characters from what others say about him. What he did for others.
A whole autobiography
To defend Charli a little
After 20+ years of reading one piece, Luffy's most prevailing character trait is Stupid and Hungry. Is it true he has other qualities like loyalty, kindness, and empathy, but in all arc Luffy's Stupidity somehow always handicaps him in the first act of every arc just so someone else helps him in the 3rd act.
Kind of crazy as i was in after the first episode.
Been watching it since march this year. And absolutely loved my journey so far. Its already my favourite anime. Out of the 300 i've watched.
Love the crew. Absolutely love how political the show gets. My favourite story arcs are detailed world building and political and history heavy arcs. So alabasta and fish man island are some of my favourites so far.
The actually fighting scenes i'm kind of colder on. Even though i know the power levels and the fighting is the main draw of the show for alot of people and the shonen crowd but for me thats my least favourite parts of the show.
I actually prefer the slower character building moments.
But the action is still entertaining and the huge battles scenes are epic and necessary for the story. Marineford and impel down were both really great as well.
But i like that it feels like its a show that has a little something for everyone.
I put this serious off for so long and when I finally gave it a chance I became overalls obsessed. I’m right there with you brother
One of the things I’ve always enjoyed about One Piece was the scale of the world Oda built. We aren’t just following Luffy and his crew, people are out and about doing their own thing and making their own moves. It makes the world feel so much more alive. The Ace vs Blackbeard fight was one of my favorite moments. We the audience knew it happened, but Luffy didn’t have a clue. So the tension was immediately raised in the following arcs. Oda just does a fantastic job at world building and making his world constantly feel alive and moving.
Facts I love how the world moves on without the main characters
Absolutely. This is even more evident if you read the manga and see the little stories that go on in the title cards. Every character we meet truly matters and exists, and that's an amazing aspect of One Piece that I, as a reader of a looot of Shounen Jump, can appreciate
@@skullpants3and spoiler
Especially with what's going on rn imu and the Godknights
Funny that you mention the rest of the world making their moves and mentioned specifically Ace vs Blackbeard since *spoilers*
In the manga we see all of the schemes of Blackbeard coming into fruition right now and the chapter that released just today is about Garp's fight against his commanders (notably Aokiji) to rescue Koby who had been kidnapped
We got him boys!
How the hell did you end up here
I thought you would be playing blox fruits
Sup enyu
@@Rodan_0 no shit
@@Rodan_0 I was just wondering why it was on a moistcritikal vid
I am about to complete the water 7 arc.
I started one piece from scratch and got here in about a month
I'm at punk hazard ark ATM. And my room is already covered in one piece merch. Even got my wife to start watching it.. Lol
It's a shame he doesn't like Luffy, Hell I like pre time skip Luffy more than post time skip Luffy because he has so many memorable moments, His fight against Ussop, Him charismatically holding Zoro hostage with either death or freedom at their first encounter.
One of Luffy's greatest aspects is his emotional Intelligence, he can always read his crewmates emotions, respecting Ussops duel, Waiting for Nami to ask him for help first during Arlong park, Forcing Robin to say what she actually feels despite her sacrifice, The entirety of his relationship with Sanji during Whole cake island arc. That level of understanding keeps his crew together and boiling down his character to this goofy loudmouth idiot that is practically useless for 10-20 episodes before fighting the big bad is understandable but letting that side of his character affect your perception of what truly makes him a great character and leader is a bit undeserving.
nahh luffy is hungry or fight man! There is no in-between!
@@cryfly1 /sarcasm sorry, guess i laid it on too thick
luffy is one of the very few protagonists in anime(and media in general) to consistently rank number 1 in every popularity poll in his series.
luffy gets series when needed, and he's much more perceptive than people give him credit for. he subtly develops as time goes on, his battles are extremely interesting to watch, his battle IQ is incredible.
luffy just keeps getting better and better.
the key to enjoying one piece is honestly just "Patience" expecting instant gratification will not get you anywhere with this show.
or just read the manga for the amazing pacing
he is watching on Sub or Dub? ! Luffy in Dub is torture!!
I think a lot of Luffy's emotional intelligence just makes him seem like an idiot because the Shounen genre and a lot of popular anime in general have the common trait of dense or outright stupid main characters. A lot of Luffy's development as well is seen better in hindsight once you've reached certain points of the story. The first few times where Luffy is being actually smart is easily written off as a coincedence but slowly it begins to add up and you realize who Luffy really is and why he does what he does.
One major flaw with the anime in general is that it was constantly being produced while the manga was being made. There’s no breaks between seasons so that the next manga chapters can finish, which leads to some parts being dragged on for 20 episodes (AKA Luffy in the snake) so that the manga can get ahead of the anime
It speaks to the strength of the story that people actually watch the anime. When I read the manga I get how it’s the most popular manga of all time but I can’t fathom the people who watch the anime.
@@cbertstienCause it’s GAHT DAMN HEAT
Its even worse now. They just stretch everything out so much with extra reactions and extra flashy stuff, which really destroys the pace. The anime these days is better to watch the canon clips of good manga moments on yt. You still have to play it on 1.25 speed tho
@@darquanjrrecently the anime has been very good
@JosephTGuy The animation has gotten better, but the pacing is as bad as it’s ever been.
I don't blame you. It took me forever to get to Water 7. Once I got there, I caught up faaaast to episode 1035 (it was the latest episode released at the time I caught up) and I'm on my second rewatch now.
Enies Lobby is also my favorite arc it’s so good, a literal masterpiece.
I think it’s worth pointing out that Pel was supposed to die in the explosion, but the chapter of the manga where the bomb goes off came out literally just a few days before 9/11, and so Oda decided having a character die in an explosion was in bad taste, so he basically retconned it so pel survived even though he didn’t have an explanation for how he lived
A character based in a middle-east inspired country, no-less. Its understandable but I wonder if he'd be willing to un-retcon it now that time has passed. Like in a Remastered version
@@SuperBeast641 pell is literally used later in story its not a recon. The creator just sucks at killing characters off
@@HollowfiedNaruto Well no shit hes used in the story if he fucking survived. Are you on the spectrum? And yes oda does suck at killing characters.
@@HollowfiedNaruto You dont know what retcon means.
@@HollowfiedNaruto using something after a retcon doesn't mean it's not a retcon
I think you have to look back at Luffy’s big moments and see that when he switches goober mode off, he’s so fun to watch. Arlong, Crocodile, Rob Lucci; these fights force him to zone in during the fight and realize what is at stake. It’s not just the fights either, it is also when his crew needs him. Throughout the entire series, any time a member of the crew or a future member of the crew is in need, he fights for their freedom. Nami in Arlong Park and Robin in Enies Lobby are the two biggest examples, but they happen more often than you think.
Yeah but he has to turn goober mode off, which means charlie would presumably go back to not enjoying his character until the next time he’s out of goober mode . If you don’t enjoy a character like 60-80% of the time it’s safe to say you don’t like that character
@@boopinoop4545idk man the goober man is still part of luffy's core of freedom and adventure, which pairs along with his serious freedom fighting. I get not liking dumbassery but man hating the whole character for it means something is not being understood
People don't get luffy, he's shown incredible emotional intelligence but because the show doesn't let you read his mind people disregard him
Agreed
@@boopinoop4545goober man is projection lol just luffy smiles a bit makes him a goober man sounds like your depressed my man 😢
Water 7 is where my friend got super invested too. It's such an incredible arc
i started one piece 3 months ago and i loved it instantly and was hooked by arlong park and right now its even better (currently on marineford)
I will never understand your take on Luffy. He's the beating heart of the show for me. One of my favorite fictional characters of all time.
Exactly, its bizarre. Its complete opposite of for me and his stupidity makes the show funnier and amazing.
I feel the same way, his whimsy and goofiness is totally intoxicating!
I just want to know if his favorite character from naruto is sasuke/itachi then it would all make sense. lol
@@DJ-sn2wn it’s that situation of “expecting the characters to always be smart in anime” when the whole cast of characters are for the most part not really smart at all, they are just human, which makes One Piece so relatable
HE JUST HAS TO GET PAST MARINEFORD. hey doesn’t like luffy. YET
The childish nature of Luffy and the humorous moments that occurred in the pre-timeskip arcs are what drew me in. I was hooked since the Arlong Park arc. Seeing Luffy get serious was so rewarding. Once you hopefully catch up, you’ll come to miss these old arcs and the older animation style. There’s also an incredible amount of foreshadowing in the first few arcs that get explained in much later arcs.
I agree, everyone says that it only gets good later but I thought it was great from the start. My hot take is that I think the beginning arcs in the anime are better than what we have currently
The foreshadowing and nostalgia I get from old art style is what makes early OP great.
Early Luffy was really goofy, and that honestly was only enjoyable for those fans who started OP as a kid. It’s why some adults like Charlie starting the show later on, are not a fan of early Luffy.
problem is it doesnt change after ts
im currenly on skypiea arc and i really love the goofy and wholesome moments they have. im worried they stop having those after timeskip.
Although there are certain biases against killing characters and such due to it being originally written for a younger audience, those mostly go away later in the show.
I would say that one piece is a show that matured with it's audience over time, and if that is your main criticism then you will only start to like it more and more as you get further.
Yes bro, enies lobby got me hooked too.
At the time that Enies Lobby was airing, the anime was dangerously close to catching up to the manga and running out of material to adapt. The studio wanted to keep up the weekly episodes rather than take a break, and that’s why they added those weird filler episodes in the middle of such a climactic moment. That’s also why Luffy was stuck in the snake belly for so long back in Spypeia. The anime really likes to play up Luffy’s lack of awareness for the sake of padding time.
Yeah I always thought of that as well, if it gets too close to the anime then they either have to delay the episodes or do a fullmetal alchemist and go it's own route which is a very heavy gamble and also not the story oda wants
Thats a really weak excuse, if they dont have chapters to adapt, wait... thats the most obvious decision and what most anime do to make it enjoyable, adding filler and dragging shit out for the sole purpose of not wanting to take a break is fucking braindead...
That's why it's better to just read the Manga.
@@Spriqqanyea prob because they wanted to keep making money or something thankfully nowadays they take breaks
and years later this is still the issue one piece anime is literally unwatchable to me the show peaks at marineford and falls off hard after
I was hooked by Arlong Park cause how can you not be??? Luffy's enthusiasm is contagious, and that whole arc is just perfect. The scene where Nami's crying and trying to cut her tat off and kicking sand at Luffy but he gives her his hat. GOD DAMN
Some people watch for entertainment and to get hooked into the story, others are just waiting for the "Greatness"
Faxxxx
@@TheWarden04well put, yeah I got into one piece really heavy around baratie when Mihawk shows up. I was in it for the adventure so the lengthbwas exciting for me and the quality and payoff has been huge since specially in terms of the lore and world building that comes together
Arlong park has to be the most mid overrated arc in anime
@@carson12515 🤣 what's your favorite anime?
This was me. I was so close to giving up after skypiea. My friend begged me to wait till water 7. I’m so glad I did. I’m on dressrosa now and I’m just so obsessed
Dang this actually made me realise how much Luffy has developed bro it was so gradual and sinister how they slowly increased Luffy's intelligence
I can't wait for Charlie to get to Marineford, I 100% understand why he sees Luffy as annoying, so I'm interested in hearing what Charlie has to say once Luffy begins maturing and developing as a character from that arc forward
not to mention “outright refusal to kill characters out of flashbacks” and similar phrases
@@crossgalaxies9711yeah it changes the tone after water 7 a looot
Yeah, looking forward to his take on it for sure
i cryd evrytim
@@crossgalaxies9711 donut.....
So weird that you committed to 300 episodes before you actually enjoyed it. I read it so my experience was different, but I was gripped from chapter 1 and enjoyed a lot of the East Blue saga. Baratia was the first arc that really got to me continue the series.
The Aarlong Park is THE arc that decides if you’ll be a fan of the series.
I hated Arlong Park, but enjoyed the series after that
@@hydrocy.9165 How?
@@hydrocy.9165 what did you not like about it?
I can’t imagine a show taking 300 episodes to get good. Like sailor moon is only 300 episodes, One piece took the entirety of sailor moons run to get good
@yamiyugi6031 It's all a matter of subjectivity. Some people like it from the start, some people think it gets good after 100, 300, 800 episodes, or whatever. And some fully catch up and don't like any of it (there are people like that, seriously).
I say all this to state that I think that the show is good from the start, and I disagree that it takes that long to get good. It's about taste, perspective, and preference in storytelling. It doesn't have to be for everyone, but you say it like it's a fact that EVERYONE thinks it's bad till Ep.300.
YES! I started it in January and am at episode 700 now. I liked it a lot sooner (around Alabasta) and I LOVE IT.
As soon as Franky got introduced and they went into his backstory, I was hooked.
Hope you keep enjoying the rest of the show 😁 Be Interesting once you catch in another 2 years to see that video 😂
First
Second
EDP MAKES BETTER CONTENT THAN THAT SHOW
@@sirajthebrownsfan NOBODY CARES
TRUMP DOESNT CARE AND EDP DOESNT CARE
@@unbeso8858 STOP ANNOTING ME
U ARE THE SAME GUY WHO MADE FUN OF EDP
For me it was the Baratie that hooked me, Zoros moment, and Sanji crying at the end really hit me. Glad to see someone else is liking it!
Agreed and Skypeia nearly lost me it was awful
@@watermelon58I loved Skypeia, its one of the arcs I always go back and read.
@@watermelon58 Skypiea was mostly really boring but its one of the most important arc
@@21quepasa maybe its portrayed better in the manga
@@watermelon58 couldn't get past the buggy arc on the anime, but the manga is so much better
Props to you for putting up with 200+ episodes till you made it. Double props for joining team Zoro!
Can't wait to see when Charlie sees the deaths he wants so badly. See you in the war arc!
The fact that you said you fell asleep during a lot of one piece is very understandable but also crazy to me, guess the better parts do come after the crew gets brook
I think the complaints about Luffy are valid, but I think it's more understandable when you know his motivation. Luffy essentially just wants to have fun and go on an adventure. It's why he doesn't bat an eye when Buggy is about to chop his head off. It's why he doesn't go out of his way to kill the villains. Luffy just wants to be free and go on adventures with his friends. One thing i think is easy to miss is how he so readily and fully believes in his friends' dreams no matter how ridiculous. Nami and Sanji for example almost always get laughed at even by their closest friends for having ridiculous goals, but Luffy just believes them right away. To him it's just a matter of fact that they'll one day achieve their dreams even if everyone else would say otherwise. All his crew in turn trust him completely as well. It's his power to bring people together and make them believe in each other so completely that makes him a good protagonist imo.
i disagree. most one piece fans have luffy in their top 3 characters, i personally think hes one of the best shonen protags
@@EthanP. Luffy is top 1
@@EthanP. I think it entirely depends, part of Luffy's charm is that he's silly, goofy, stupid, but gets serious when he actually needs to. It's a bit like Goku but even more stupid and silly. People either really like that or really dislike that. Most One Piece fans have Luffy in top3 because they either liked him from the beginning or watched enough for Luffy to have fights that make you really like him because of the fights and eventually fell in love with his charm as well. People who don't have Luffy in their top3 normally just didn't put in the time because an unenjoyable MC is normally a motivation for people to drop a series and if they dropped it then they can't really be called a "one piece fan" because they watched 20 episodes and decided the annoying MC is too annoying and they cba to watch a show with an annoying MC.
@@repzts for me #1 is doffy
#2 is luffy
#3 is zorro
@@Maiyukiii ive never met someone IRL that didnt like luffy off rip.
goku comparison is great tho always kinda say luffy as a better version of goku tho they do have clear differences. namley gokus fighting obsession to the point hell endanger the entire world for a good fight
It’s unfortunate it took you that long to enjoy one piece but I understand. Personally I enjoyed it from the beginning and like the character interactions and found the humor funny. After being caught up I thought back and appreciated the earlier stages of one piece how it was less serious and had more crew interaction. The story overall is amazing and the later arcs get so much better.
I got hooked from the arlong park arc
Seriously, i was skeptical before starting it. But the pre time skip humor and drama especially before the grand line instantly clicks with me, post time skip is great but lacks a certain charm for me, but the fights and animations definitely improved by lots.
Same I liked it from the start mainly because of luffy's powers
i can't agree more
Personally I find arcs too long for nothing. I still read until the end of wano arc but seriously so dam long. That's why I prefer nowadays mangas better except if they ( old mangas ) are really good. Like I kind of liked DBZ and Naruto. Bleach, OPM are prob my fav. Not counting isekai I read since a lot of them are shit compared to these shows. But One Piece, meh. Just my opinion. I have a friend who watch the anime and it's the only anime he watches. One of my teacher too and I still respect them. But ain't no way I would be able to watch the whole thing. The pacing is soooo slow.
Fyi Charlie, there's only 98 filler episodes in One Piece. Oda doesn't make Filler, he makes Fan Fiction about his own stuff and gives it to us. Those flashbacks aren't filler, they'll be important later.
The thing about death in one piece is that it never happens, but when it does, it hits REALLY hard
Luffy’s development is significant but more human and grounded he doesn’t just completely change after something traumatic happens he does learn but he always slips up and it makes his character so much deeper and human than any other in the show
eh not really, he’s still his normal self, but yea he does become a bit more dependable but he is still doing things that gets him and his crew in trouble
@@dblevsTM- it’s actually his crew that gets him in trouble. Like literally any request the crew makes Luffy answers half of it except for the turning back parts and even then it gets out voted.
@@dblevsTMThat's just Luffy we wouldn't love him if he changed
No luffy is just a dumbass what
That's a lot of words to say he's stupid and will never change.
Luffy starts getting more serious whenever the situation is serious. I understand why you don't like him but I genuinely love his character, he is a good blend of serious and happy. He's the embodiment of happiness.
Yeah his hate for him is just blinding him from seeing this, luffy has alot more character than what he says. Love Charlie but this is a L take
@@adam-lu4vr I kind of get him because I feel the same way towards goku in db super. He's way too immature and doesn't take anything seriously 90% of the time.
How can people not like luffy man... I don't know how
Luffy's personality is a hold over from all the other main protagonists of the time when the manga was originally written. A lot of Shonen anime had the dumb happy go lucky protagonist that loved to eat is just that now a days all those manga stopped and the only big characters that are still like that are Goku and Luffy. Times have definitely changed
I call it embodiment of stupidity
I just started too bro and yea ennis lobby sold it for me and it gets better n better trust
Charlie: "nobody dies" oda: "I got you"
Luffy's development after the Paramount War is one of the biggest changes I remember from One Piece
Yeah a lot of
His complaints about no stakes luffys character and no one getting killed off his reaction once he makes the time skip I look forward to it
he didnt change at all
Luffys development after enies lobby was a more important one imo, post marineford luffy learned he needed to be stronger, and found out the true scope of the world and how much stronger he needed to become, but enies lobby/water 7 taught luffy that he has responsibilities, being strong and beating up the strongest guy can’t solve everything, he needed to become someone they cud follow without hesitation, someone who would be their guide, which imo is the most important for luffy as his role as captain on his ship, which I think critikal majorly looks over in his watching of the series
@@K1_Trains I have serious doubts he'll be able to get through the Paramount War. He despises Luffy cause he can't stand his carefree and dense personality and there's literally like 200 episodes of just following Luffy by himself
@@thehumanity0200 episodes of Luffy trying to save his brother. It’s mostly serious for the most part.
Water 7 is the point where One Piece hits different is because that’s when the straw hat crew truly feels like they earned the title of pirate. It’s a lovely story. I love one piece… it’s worth the journey, especially right now.
I agree. Water 7 and Enies Lobby are my favorite arcs.
not to mention FRANKY
Well when people ask when u normaly get hooked to op its
-> ep1 , arlong , water 7
fishman island, punk hazard and the first half of dressrosa are absolute dog ass
true after wano the manga is crazy it's at it's peak
I agree with the no killing thing. What really pissed me off was when Conis's father was struck down my Eneru's wrath, and supposedly died, but then mysteriously comes back, claiming to have been in the clouds. It really pisses me off.
I watched this video when it was uploaded and i started watching it. 10 months later i'm now at episode 450 and love it!!
My half-brother has been watching this show since 2009, and he has completed the show around ten times. I didn't believe that mf until he told me every detail of every episode. Absolutely crazy.
Me fr
10? My god
10?!
I WATCHED IT 6 TIME AND I THOUGHT I WAS A GOD
How did he complete a show that is still running?
@@Gandhi_Physique i think he means stuff like catching up to the latest episode
Most of the pacing issues are not a plot problem, but rather an animation problem. They really wanted to extend the time for each episode...
Worst part if OP is they basically have to do one ep a week. The terrible pacing and filler later on really taints the series. Its so refreshing reading the manga and waiting for anime. Just all story
The dude not dying in the nuke explosion is something i knew would be brought up somewhere and he's not the only one who didn't die when he cleary should have
I can't wait to hear what Charlie thinks of impel down.
I really think a lot of his complaints about pacing stem from the fact that he’s watching the anime. It drags absolutely everything out, even the punches which you’d tend to imagine as fast from how their depicted in the manga. For example, in Long Ring Long Land they added a whole bunch of extra things that weren’t in the manga, making it like thirty episodes longer than it should’ve been. The manga is just the superior version of the story in my opinion, and I can say this considering that I watched over 200 episodes of the show and dropped it. After that I was told to read it instead, which turned out to be a much better experience. Now it’s one of my favorite pieces of fiction.
That's fair, the manga pacing is like 10x better. That being said towards the latter half of one piece (mainly wano) the fights go harddd, I'd recommend watching those, plus the special moments when they say smth inspirational or emotional or whatever
I try to keep up with the manga but I still don't like it and it drags for me.
I agree that the manga is overall superior when it comes to pacing, but I still have one huge gripe with it. Oda's artstyle has severely regressed after the timeskip. Current one piece manga has this awful thick linework with messy ink and the shading is often this weird patchy spiderweb. Panels with nice composition are ruined with a bunch of reaction faces, most likely to give the "1 episode of manga to 1 episode of anime" toei pacing some stuff to padd out the episode runtime. Oda also has a nasty habit of adding pointless clutter to his drawing, like a bunch of "energy lines" flying out when a character throws a punch (and I am not talking about haki here). The characters also have this strange white fade around them to help them stick out from the cluttered background, which again he wouldn't even need to do is he didn't clutter the pages with fuzzy ink. Go and look at the latest chapter and then go check out the first. The difference is night and day and it is not a good improvement.
From what I’ve seen, the anime’s pacing only gets worse, especially after the timeskip.
The pacing wasn’t bad until the time skip. Also ik it’s a sacrilege to say that and I’ve been reading the manga for years now but the anime is better than the manga. You get voice acting, animation, music etc. It’s more fun to follow the anime (until dressrosa)
i'm sad to hear that it took until Enies Lobby to finally rope you in, but i am delighted to hear that it DID.
i was hooked in Arlong Park and a lot of the fans agree with me when i say Nami's Plea is a pivotal moment in the show, but i understand that it's not a show for everyone.
either way, huge props to you for actually staying on the ride and legitimately keeping an open mind and waiting to see if the show spoke to you. im glad that it got there eventually!
also Enies Lobby has always been my favorite arc and i doubt that will change until our goofy band of misfits finally makes it onto the final island and uncovers the greatest treasure in the world
Dude Namis plea sucked me into one piece. That was the moment I became an addict. The moment I became a FIEND was Robins plea.
@@josephmoore64 Arlong Park hooked me, Alabasta goodbye i got tattooed, and I Want to Live sealed my soul into this story.
I've never looked back
I absolutely agree with you. To me, arlong parked really pulled me in with the emotions they up in. Before that, all bosses just seemed so boring and weak and I could really acre less about them but then arlong came along and really showed me how satifying it was for luffy to destroy him.
I started watching it recently and the crew have just landed in alabasta. So far I'm enjoying it and zoro, nami and new addition chopper are all great but genuine question, when do luffy and usopp get more fleshed out? so far I'm with Charlie that Luffy is BY FAR my least favourite character. He seemed more intelligent and emotionally mature as a child in his flashback then he does currently and his "always on" stupidity really takes away any tension the show tries to build if Luffy is in the scene. I enjoyed Usopps introduction and his compulsive lying to make others feel better and liven up his town was a neat switch-up on an otherwise negative characteristic but there has been so many moments already where it feels like he's resolved himself and is going to change and make more of an effort and then next episode he immediately reverts back.
I plan on continuing the show egardless but I'd mostly like to know if this is something I'm gonna have to deal with throughout or if they actually have a character arc and become more likable people with more nuance to their character, especially Luffy who right now is just "hehe im stupid, I like meat and am stupidly strong" on NON STOP REPEAT. Hell Goku was dense but he was never as outright stupid like Luffy is sometimes which is saying something lmao.
@@reindogfan that's entirely fair honestly, I can see how Luffy looks one-dimensional early on.
I would argue that very soon after Alabasta Luffy begins to realize that he has to take his journey much more seriously, as the main villain of Alabasta kinda fucks him up a bit 😂
As for Usopp, he has a much more hidden growth that's hard to see unless you really pay attention to who he is as a character.
I don't want to say anything else because parts of it are pretty solid spoilers but I hope you enjoy the rest of your journey!
Im not too far into One Piece considering how long its been since i started watching (Ep 263) but One Piece has just got a grip on me now especially after i made it water 7. I felt so worn put from foxy pirates but water 7 was there to bring me right back especially because i finally got to see SogeKing and Ussop in general was really interesting this arc i cant wait for Luffy vs Lucci since their rematch is happening as of this comment being written.
Oda said he doesn't like to kill characters because he enjoys the parties at the end of the arc and death puts a damper on that, which I can respect and for a protagonist that's so innocent/only gets serious when it's needed is nice. That said the deaths that do happen hit hard and have major impacts on the character/world. It's not conventional but Oda expressly didn't want Luffy to be a cookie cutter version of the typical shonen protagonists
I’ve basically loved every arc. Can’t help it. The manga right now has been literally jaw dropping screaming out loud fun.
@Susnation532nerd
i'm still in disbelief that anyone actually likes one piece
dude the final saga is BONKERS
@@cat-le1hf it's really good, ive liked it since episode 1
Even Dressarosa?
Oda might not like killing off his characters, but when he does… it’s truly something special. So not having many deaths in the story makes the deaths that do happen much more emotional.
mad glazzaing
Just wait till he gets to aces death 😢
@@REPT0did you not watch the video? He already knows ace dies
@@asoleieifretton7578 yeah, its REALLY hard for people to not know Ace dies before he dies these days. It's posted so often on every related One Piece, pretty much any OP Forum has decided that things are not spoilers unless it hasnt been animated yet.
Special my ass. Nothing is shocking about one piece‘s death scenes. Until now only WB and Ace died who we have seen basically nothing about. I mean the flash back came right after ace died which was the dumbest decision ever.
We should know the characters first before they get killed off. Also in over 1000 episodes only 2 characters died and that in the same arc. And you call that special?
When Nico Robin Screams " I WANT TO LIVE! TAKE ME WITH YOU!" I literally burst into tears. 😭
the best to come !
"I want to live" is the most intense and emotional scenes of all time. I don't care what anyone says.
I cringe at that moment im sorry
Honestly Robins whole story is one of the best/saddest next to Sanjis. Her best friend telling her "No ones born to be alone" speech while him and everyone she knows dies around her by the world government hits me HARD even know I get goosebumps... one of the best speech's in the show so far.
@@felixgutierrez993 It hits close for me. I bounced around in foster homes until a wonderful family took me in. I know how it feels to be rejected by everyone until finally someone accepts you.
@@felixgutierrez993 Sanji backstory isn't that sad. Nami had it worse.
Robin story really hit me emotionally, same with Nami.
One Piece got me to cry over a boat, I don't cry due to a show, but man, One Piece got me, twice even, over a boat.
No way in hell you haven’t cried over other media
Boat and Brooke man.
Boat and Brooke
Watch Clannad. Way better.
@@ulrald8864 I have teared up a few times across a handful of anime, outside of that the only other type of media that has made me get the sniffles. Was the one scene in 'I am legend' where will smith has to strangle his dog to death. But outside of that no other movie, show, or game has done it.
Ive cried quite a few times playing games and tripping on acid
This makes me so happy an bro it only gets better i promise you!
It just keeps getting better and better from here
Yeah no lie charlie the episodes they are putting out for wano currently is some of the best animation in anime period. Absolutley incredible.
Yup only 900 ep’s to get there
Ufotable has better animation and Mappa
@@CloudH2Obecause it's new🥶🥶🥶
@@CloudH2Oit’s almost as if the anime has been releasing for over 25 years 😱
@@indominusblade3 doesnt matter its still the most popular anime
One Piece always had me from the start, personally (episode 1). It's not for everyone, but the main "hook" was "The Walk" from Arlong Park for me, where I saw just what this series was capable of, and then Water 7 was the moment One Piece reached true elevation for me.
Glad to see Charlie's found his moment, even if it did take longer than expected.
arlong park is still an amazing arc to this day. def one of my favorites
Same here! I was one of the “it’s too long” type of people before eventually starting it but then it had me from the beginning
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4 dudes walking was your hook for seeing what the series is capable of?
Same, it was mainly the Emotional Nami scene where she stabs herself that got me, that leading into The Walk made me a viewer for life.
as a kid, i used to watch one piece while its still ongoing. It was in arlong park at the time. But then i stopped and a few years later, i rewatch back from the start and knew im gonna love it the moment that goofy rubber ball jumped out of the barrel
Enies lobby was when i really started to like the show too, but it wasnt until marineford that i truly fell in love with it, after dressrosa it became my favorite show of all time, its definitely a slow burn but you fall more and more in love with it as you go