The Godfather "When the Shooting Stopped"
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- It involves George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, Walter Murch, George Spielberg, and co-editor Richard Marks as they examines editing, score and audio, story issues for Part II, and a few related subjects.
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The way they describe the horsehead scene with two pieces of music playing against each other making you queasy and uneasy is so masterful.
My thoughts exactly. That was so perfectly done. In the end, the cinematography, the music, everything -- is like a Mozart symphony -- change anything and it's diminished.
(Yes, I'm paraphrasing Salieri. But I'm right. And so was he.)
I tell you what
" Godfather II " was my favorite out of the three. I really liked the parts where they go back in time, when Vito was a young man. Young Robert DeNiro really killed it, playing that part.
Good actor - horrible person
@@jakeforrest You are right about that, Jake.
-@@jakeforrest - Why do you say he- I think you are referring to Robert DeNiro is a Horrible Person. Just because he doesn't like TRump. I, personally, dont all the Trump bashing that has gone on in the last few years also There is a a lot more things wrong in the USA and in the World than Donald TRump. But whatever evidence do you have that Robert DeNiro is a Horrible person?
Yes it’s my favorite too. But I like to watch them back to back.
@@ronniebishop2496 You, and me both. I have the director`s cut, and have binged watched all three in a row.
Pulling the scream out was pure genius!
Especially with that beautiful music playing in the background & the camera panning the responses & emotions of everyone else. The look on Talia Shire's face was heartbreaking.
The bowl of oranges behind the editor was a nice Godfather touch.
Not for the editor! ☠️
Apparently that was unintentional. The studio kept complaining the movie was too dark so Francis added oranges to brighten the scenes up.
@@BostonsF1nest Behind "The Editor"
No, the oranges were intentional. Coppola used oranges as omens of death in all the films. "Vito gets shot 5 times after buying oranges. Survives this, then dies while playing a trick on his grandson using an orange for a prop. Don Fanucci dies after buying an orange." .and finally, when Michael dies, we see an orange roll from his hand.
I saw the picture right when it first came out, I had just came home for Vietnam and was very young, but even so I knew this was different from anything I’d ever seen before, I didn’t know why I just knew I couldn’t get it all by watching it just one time, and here I am turning 70 the 4th of July and I still can’t get enough of it. It’s a masterpiece and unplanned masterpiece. You can do the best you can but you still don’t know how it will work.
Thanks for your service.
Thank you!!
Truth.
Thank you for your service to our country.
Thank you for your reply post.
It truly is a masterpiece.
Thank you for your service, sir.
I was eleven yrs old when I saw it in the movies with my sister and her boyfriend, his sister my age ,I still watch it up until this day I just love
this movie so much 😁👍
You know you're in for a good documentary on editing when it opens on George Lucas
That little tweak in the music for that Infamous scene made all the difference in the world. Subtleties like that are priceless and ingenious
The scenes in Godfather Part II where Michael testifies before the Senate committee had a special resonance for those who saw the film when it first came out in 1974. The summer before, in 1973, television broadcast the Sam Ervin Watergate hearings, with the testimony of members of the Nixon administration (John Dean; John Erlichman; H.R. Haldeman, etc.). The Senate scenes and set design in the film were an exact duplication of the Senate Judiciary hearing room that audiences at the time (1974) had watched on TV the summer before. This little touch, linking Watergate with the fictional Corleone saga, was widely noticed and appreciated in 1974 but is, for the most part, lost on audiences today.
There's a lot of Watergate and JFK in II. The assassination of Roth looks like the assassination of Lee Harvey Oswald.
@@harizotoh7 .......you are closer to the truth than you know.......in 1963 the CIA and Mafia were PARTNERS........the recently released JFK secret documents included a statement taken by a friend of Jack Ruby's who asked him if he wanted to go with him to Dealey Plaza to see " the FIREWORKS ". Watergate was about Nixon being afraid the the Democrats had evidence in their safe linking HIM and his operatives to JFK's murder. Nixon had been in charge of CIA assassinations while VP to Eisenhower.
It was actually made to look like Bobby Kennedy hearings on the mob.
Yes! I had the same reaction at the time. There is so much that is lost on contemporary audiences. It's sad.
@@johnfoster535 Both Kennedy and Nixon were in debt to the Mafia for favors. Politics, eh?
The ending scream in GF3 always sends shivers through me. So incredibly powerful.
I agree!
Facts
The ending "scream" in III was the "culmination" of Pacino has had..his entire acting range is either brooding intensely or screaming..this was a perfect synopsis of his entire career..pacino is the luckiest and the most overrated actor of the last 60 years
@@mitchelll3879 i thought he had some pretty good scenes in 1
That scream is like a soul in hell. Michael is damned to burn in hell by his own words, by his promise to forswear vengeance. Even to save the Pope, God required him to stop killing. Michael put his daughter’s life on the altar, never dreaming she would have to pay.
Walter Murch - film editor and sound designer - freaking genius extraordinaire.
His father, Walter Sr., also happened to be one of the greatest Still Life painters.
@@lads.7715 Thank you--must look up Sr. Jr. is such an extraordinary artist, so gifted and still working as I write this, age 78.
I'll never stope loving The Godfather
I was gonna write: " stoped is not a word."
Neither will I...
Stope it.
Stope it! Youu aare kiling mee
mdd1963 no! You stope it, aaaaaa
The Godfather II is arguably the greatest sequel ever made. This film actually stands alone in its own right as a wonderful piece of cinema independent of the rest of the trilogy. A total triumph. Incredible achievement. They say if you want to understand a bit about the social and political life of Victorian Britain read Dickens. Well if you want to understand a bit about the same of the 2Oth Century United States watch the Godfather movies. Like all great art, it speaks directly to the human condition, exposing it and laying it bare like a mirror to our very souls. Intellectual and emotional entertainment of the highest order.
I’ve seen all 3 in the trilogy hundreds of times…. Each time seeing or hearing something I’d missed over the years. There will NEVER be anything like these films ever again! Incredible!!!!!!!!
I & II...classics. III...I don't know why they bothered.
@@jackfitzpatrick8173 I remember seeing G3 in the theater when it was released. People cheered when Mary died…. Her acting was sooooo bad!
@@italishgirl5601 One awful movie. Duvall opted out as he saw it as a cash grab and felt he deserved to be paid on this dud.
@@robertstv8045 the last one is really awful. I agree
uh, why u watching godfather 3?
When the shooting stoped... they realized Coppola was a bonafide genius for discovering a legend-Al Pacino!
07:14 - "Michael, say goodbye": that to me has always been what the whole saga is about.
I think Michael gives his first hint of becoming the Godfather in the scene where they are discussing killing Solozzo. Sonny briefly passes in front of the camera and then exits; Tom Hagen is in the background and slowly becomes out of focus; the camera gradually zeros in on Michael as he's talking.
It's not personal, it's business.
Now you've gone and made me have to watch all three again. Thanks.
same.
Love how Spielberg looks like he just walked in from raking leaves or tying up the boat down at the dock.
Gonna go watch 1 and 2 again for the 100th time. 😎
Same here😎👍
Same! 👍😎
Each time is like the first time for me
I've never seen it. But now I'm about to binge all three after watching this video!
You're not a true fan unless you watch 3. It's actually a great film.
I didn't care much for Godfather III, but, that scene at the end broke my heart. That scene represented God settling up for the life you lead. We've all been there. When something horrible happens to you and you know, somewhere in your heart, deep down, that you probably had it coming.
To me, the take away was that he had done so many horrible things all for his family only to die alone
Part III is heartbreaking because it reflects Coppola's own failure to live to the success of the first two godfather films.
The Strength of Godfathers 1 & 2 was that they were very realistic. There were scenes in Godfather 3 that were more like out of an over-the-top Action Adventure film that cheapened the whole film. The Godfathers being killed by the Machine gun fire from a circling Helicopter shooting them in a Locked hotel room. or Michaels nephew dressed up as a Mounted Police officer riding up and heroically killing the Main Enemy of Michael was just ridiculous!! NONE of that fit the reality of the mob!
Karma is bs
@@luismarioguerrerosanchez4747 Would you care to elaborate?
Ty✊
Love the transition from the horses head to Brando raising his eyebrows, knowing he just heard what Tom Reagan had to do in order to get Woltz to give Johnny Fontaine the part.
Tom never cut the horses head
Tom just made the offer.
He kept to the legal matters of the Corleone family.
He was that last chance Woltz had
Hagen. But yeah, great editing!
They never say who killed the horse but clearly Tom arranged it
@@glen7318 there is a deleted scene where Vito asks to meet with Luca after Toms visit to Woltz. It implies that Luca did the killing of the horse.
Those idiotic Paramount ‘executives’ just about killed this masterpiece at every turn!!! It’s a miracle that the movie even exists; the greatest motion picture of all-time that almost never was! The Godfather is not only a testament to Coppola’s genius , but also his dogged abilities to reign in the powerful morons of the movie industry.
And it's a pity that when it came out on DVD they cut out some scenes, probably to get it on one DVD.
Absolutely great film !.
Well what do you expect...that’s what “those” people do
Robert Evans in his book... The Kid is Still in the Picture...claims credit for his changes saving the movie
Robert Evans was the man.
He fucking saved Paramount from bankruptcy and then the executives stabbed him in the back.
the soundless scream at the end of part 3 was magnificent
Absolutely brilliant
This is my favorite sequence in the entire trilogy. It was brilliant that they took the time for those long moments of silence as he sobs and THEN when he inhales we hear him scream in agony. Part 3 may be flawed but the ending is so powerful.
I always considered that scene to be unintentionally funny.
Any father of a daughter would agree,,,it would kill me
any father would rather die than go through that kind of pain. that is hell on earth, even for a souless murderer.
I agree!
Damn, all these years I was thinking That Godfather lll scream was some really good acting. To learn it was editing is just as impressive.
Dear Lord... Just listening to the flawless soundtrack that underscores this interviews brings me to tears. What an amazing feat this movies were.
The end of gf3 got me in the heart . I will never forget it . Masterpiece
Worth watching the film for those last few scenes alone
You can hate #3 all you want but that fucking ending...it redeems it all. Beautifully tragic.
Godfather 3 is my favorite Godfather film said nobody ever.
It was 💩💩💩
While 3 got beaten up by critics I have warmed up to it over the years. It has some strong elements. Not perfect but doesn't deserve the drubbing it gets.
I love how there’s an Oscar on the tables in the horse head scene..
It's not just a movie, it's a batton hand off from a veteran cast (Richard Conte, Richard Costenello, Abe Vigoda, Marlon Brando, Michael Gazzo ) to a younger cast (Al, Bobby, DuVal, Caan, John Cazale). Even the time piriod dovetails the careers of these actors to one another and we all went on to enjoy their careers all the more.
Amazing video. I got very emotional with the ending. Michael dancing with her daughter
The first two films were a cinematic miracle.
Godfather I and II .... the best ever
IMHO, Godfather II would not be rated higher than the first one by many, if it hadn't preseved what makes so many first movies in a series so good: the transformation arc of the main character. Part II preserves that element by showing Vito's trauma, escape, survival, rise and ultimately his successful vendetta. Michael is still transforming in Part II, too but not only are the negative elements of that highlighted making the character less likeable, the cat and mouse game with Hyman Roth, the Senate hearings, Kaye and Fredo in combination also just don't stand that well on their own without Vito's story.
Kay*
The Godfather Saga, all 9 1/2 hours, with all the deleted scenes added and in chronological order, is best way to view this. So much added from the originally deleted scenes. The early life, with a young Tessio & Clemenza great.
A masterpiece.
III was 💩💩💩
It's a pity the chronological version isn't available on DVD.
@@nicky29031977 It's a shame none of the services such as NetFlix doesn't run the saga.
@@doraran2138 Probably because they'd have to pay too much copyright fees to FFF and Paramount.
@@nicky29031977 It was licensed I think to NBC in late 1988's as TV version, and as an R rated VHS collection, so it had been licensed out in past. Don't think it made it to DVD though.
👏 bravo!!! Grazie Francesco Coppola for giving us the best 2 films of all time
Jorge L De Jesus best 3 films
Wow what a great film the godfather was.....
Template for once upon a time in america....and then the rest..
This is one of the most illuminating documentaries on film-making I've ever seen. This should be required in every film school if it's not already.
Very good, the soundless cry, just amazing. You just want to say BREATHE!💜
Excellent video !
I keep wondering, WHY the creators of this Masterpiece, do not make a Whole Edition of the Trilogy, by including Every deleted scene. Even if it lasts 4 hours each, i know that everyone would enjoy it, and feel that they "live" inside that story !
exactlyyyy!! brilliant idea! I would love to see that too!
Each of the movies was riveting. I could only imagine how interesting the deleted parts would be if placed back into the movies.
Loved the film, the music , brilliant and Al Pacino. I am in love with him. He's so gorgeous 👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Mia amore ciao
...not any more...he hasn't aged "gracefully"
@@22ergie lmao what a ridiculous statement, Pacino is 80 years old and you can't even tell.
What 80 year-old men do you think have aged so gracefully by contrast?
@@22ergie well he don't look bad for 80. He's walking ok for starters,be ain't got arthritis. He looks ok to me ,he's got hair. You don't know what u will look like and feel like when you 80 if u get there.☹️👍
@@Tom-rg2ex Charlie Watts is one of the few examples . . . he'll be 80 in June 2021.
Ladies and gentleman: Art
I never noticed it until now that there's an oscar statue on the bedside table. Quite appropriate considering how well the film was critically received.
@Oldenvye6432 That’s most likely the Oscar Coppola won for co-writing “Patton” in 1970.
I love George Spielberg's contribution to "When the shooting stoped"
hoo da fuq is george spielberg
One of my favorite movies I've seen a hundred times, and I always get a different perspective of scenes from time to time, the Spielberg commentary just gave me another, so now I shall watch again!
The dancing, the art, the passion and the music
It makes my hearth open up and cry
I wonder what was going through the heads of the 40 led people who dislike this. It would be fascinating to hear their reasoning?
they work for Paramount
This is great! Love hearing the thought process for some scenes
I gotta watch this again. I’ve watched it 2 or 3 times I think. Still feel like I can’t really remember what happens. I feel excited to watch it again
Yes it is so intricate and complex that no matter how often you watch it, you find something new each time
Kay's line that she thought (he wasn't going to become like his father) reveals the transformation didn't end up on the cutting room floor, it was implied in her statement. You're welcome, Steven..
The Audience gets robbed of an emotional scene where Michael first returns to New York and is reunited with his family. Also the foundation where Michael gets brief on everything going on, and Vito officially passing the torch to Michael. With the Hindsight of “The Godfather” being top 3 movies of all time the movie studio should’ve given Francis Ford Coppola a blank check and told him to make the movie as long as he wanted. I would’ve loved a 5 hour Godfather movie.
Thank you guys! You did great giving us the Godfather trilogy.
3 was awful. 1 and 2 were perfection, though.
3 is just an epilogue to the first two films. Its not that bad honestly.
Brilliant behind the scenes. Thank you.
Such a great series enjoyed watching this on the dvd
After the death of Appelonia Michael is never seen smiling in the remainder of the movies. His last shred of humanity was gone at that point.
Very Insightful!!
Grace and Peace
Ralph in CT
He smiles very little, but he is seen smiling.
True in the sense of the actual movie, but in GF 2, Micheal smiles and even somewhat laughs when Sonny’s daughter and fiancé ask “uncle Micheal” for his blessing. This scene is however only viewed in the deleted scenes.
They cut out the scene where Tom found out that Jack Woltz was a pedo and reported it back to Vito, probably because it would've offended a lot of Hollywood higher-ups at the time.
The scene is included with the extras in the dvd box set.
Good call out
The actress is not even a child. Clearly over 18. The book is more explicit.
When it was first released to theaters that scene about the pedophile was in the flick.
There was a scene where Paulie Gatto (Clemenza's protege) and some muggs fulfilled the promise of the Godfather to the guy in the opening scene of the movie.
I don't know if they changed the movie after the initial release, but I do know that the broadcast television and the VHS versions were far different from what I saw in the show.
At one point The Godfather Saga was released (iirc it was done for a national broadcast television network) that put 1&2 in chronological order with deleted scenes included.
An even later version added Godfather 3, I'm told...
@@KC______ The Paulie scene is in the book but I've never seen it as a deleted scene from the movie.
The Godfather Is the best move ever !
I like when George Lucas gets to talk about other people’s movies
The greatest movies of all-time.
After seeing this video's title, I'm wondering when the literacy stopped?
I know, it's like spelling doesn't matter anymore. You see it all the time.
@Peter Lemonjello It's a completely fair and obvious question, "snowflake," who just judged me.
Nothing wrong with spelling correctly
@Peter Lemonjello I think he missed your obvious re-use of the title misspelling. lol
why "stupe" to their level? I honestly believe it's a simple(ton) typo?!?
Never get tierd of watching this movie one of my favorite everything come together perfectly
The silent scream, that was brilliant editing. Using Fellini's music man was another great choice.
God father 1&2 . That's it!
I love this movie never get old and Al love ❤️ him don’t care how he gets 💕💕💕💕
This is wonderful. Thank you.
Kind reminder to everyone to watch "The offer", it's brilliant!
I love Dinero as young Vito, it's my FAVORITE 💋😍 performance of his 🇮🇹💜🇮🇹♥️🐐🐐🐐
Great video... Adds something to the whole experience.. 😀
Godfather 1 is possibly one of the best American films ever made. GF 2 is excellent, but GF 3, while it rounds out a story so we needn't speculate, is not in the same field. Had they included Robert Duval as Tom Hagen, it might have lifted the film some. Overall, as a trilogy, they rank among the finest films in a genre.
third one was my favorite, great resolution to the story
Very good piece.
the greatest movie of all time
It is also quite telling how our memory works. Or betrays. Even Coppola didn't remember how beautiful the film looked. Perhaps.
Godfather 2 is my favorite because life and the mind games was deeper and darker for the family. And I love how every time I watch it I pick up new things.
The first two films are Masterpieces, and they should have left it right there. My favorite 2 movies of all time
III was 💩💩💩
@@floridagator1765 STRAIGHT TRASH ‼
In my opinion the best film (movie) ever made.
I always thought his heart 'clogged up' when they blew up his first wife....SHE was the one he really loved
True
Sorry, as a non-native english speaker I was a bit confused by this sequence. Could you explain what it means to have a clogged up heart ?
@Thegreatokie Thank you very much ! I wondered if I missed something !
@@alexsbt It is a reference to Steven Spielberg's metaphor linked below. Spielberg notes that there has been a jump in time between the scenes in Sicily and Michael's reappearance in New York during which a profound transformation has taken place in Michael - his heart has become hardened, or "clogged up" to use Spielberg's words.
czcams.com/video/lAUpAA3qltw/video.html
They never did catch that weasel fabrizio!
Godfather 2 work of genius
Loved this
I saw The Godfather on network TV as a kid. (Back when there were 3 channels). The part where Carlo belts Connie in the bathroom freaked me out. My parents fought like that, except for the belt part.
Beautiful
If Hollyweird remakes this masterpiece i will cut my legs and protest until i bleed out and die😂😂😂
This movie, The Godfather is Beethoven's Ninth Symphony in cinema, just perfect
If The Godfather won 9 Oscars out of 29 nominations, then I really want to see the movies that beat it in the other categories 😳
The oscars are often about temporary hype. Godfather did not win for Cinematography but now American Society of Cinematographers vote Godfather in their top 5 while the one that won oscar that year is probably not there in their top 100.
@@aliensconfirmed3498 Though it's nice to see a favorite movie or actor get an oscar, people shouldn't put so much stake in it. There's no guarantee that the oscar voters have even seen every movie that was nominated.
@@MrJellyton That's roughly what I was saying. Awards are not totally accurate. Not even half may be. A Godfather would even even more than it did while some movies shouldn't win but they win.
@@MrJellyton
I call it Two pets and a baby syndrome.
America Funniest Videos would end with three finalists... if two of the videos are of pets, then the video of the baby wins..
Regarding the Academy Awards, similar type movies might split their votes causing a Longshot to be front and center
Most people who make these generalisations generally haven't seen the other movies in question
Absolute masters of their craft.... Besides someone like Paul Thomas Anderson - you simply will NOT see artists & film makers, both in front of & behind the lens giving their ALL to a forgotten era in cinema. Now we just have studios & Silicon Valley merchants in a sausage factory making bubble gum & nothing but NOISE for the kiddies. This generation will miss something very important if they do not see WHY the ART of filmmaking NEEDS to be made in this way & not today’s. Sacrifice the BIG MONEY & focus on the collaborative ART, with ARTISTS of making stories into classic cinema & we will forever carry Coppola’s legacy which he built for an entire future generation of film makers. For that we OWE the Don of cinema in the 70’s that much.... respect. GODFATHER.
In my opinion, the best movies were made in the 70's with the two Godfather films at the top. Today's audiences wouldn't have the attention span nor the interest for those films.
Studio: "You need to make some edits"
Coppola: (8:43) "Guys, no one leaves this room until every edit is done"
Team (days later): "Alas, we finished a single splice!" (8:45) {{cheers and drinks}}
Resolve, Premiere, Final Cut User: "Oh, edits? Finished those in the bathroom 5 min ago."
10:15 The problem with G2 not getting good reviews at first is G1. People loved 1, and 2 is so different your first viewing is tainted by 1. But when 2 has a moment to settle in, it’s clearly as good - but different - and maybe better.
Hmm I think that's how it was
G2 doesn't have the depth and complexity of G1.
They left a "p" on the cutting room floor.... Brilliant!!
What a movie 🤓 love it! part 1 & 2 🎥
Janneman Vaarwater and three.....!
@@marysaddington8024 part 3 is oké
Let's hope the new edit version will give the movie some extra touches
Thank you
Brilliant
Best movie ever the Godfather
one of the few movies where the sequel is better than the original.
I have that sound track as my ringtone.
Didn't plan on crying today but I did
13:23
This video almost makes me want to forgive filmmakers from taking dramatic license. Seemed like it took more than 15 minutes but it gave insight into post-production and how the director and editors want to impact the audience. I have to forgive 'em anyway....
EXCELLENT!
They simply need to release all three parts again with ALL deleted scenes put back in, end of story.
They did release the God Father Saga which had 1 and 2 but was in chronological order plus deleted scenes . Very good but hard to find . My copy is really rough .
Bravo!!