Why wasn't there a Turkish Missile Crisis? (Short Animated Documentary)

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  • When the USSR placed Nuclear Weapons in Cuba the United States was quick to publicly demand that the Soviet Union remove them or face war. As many will know they were placed there in response to the USA putting its own nukes in Turkey beforehand. But the USSR never said anything publicly about the US deploying atomic weapons on its own borders nor did it demand their removal. So why not? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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  • @Wowjustwowjustwow
    @Wowjustwowjustwow Před rokem +9880

    why don't we ever ask the missiles where *they* want to be based?

    • @half-hazard8903
      @half-hazard8903 Před rokem +1551

      people always ask "where are the missiles?" but never "how are the missiles?"

    • @AnotherLuckyStar
      @AnotherLuckyStar Před rokem +563

      The missiles already know where they are based.
      They know this because they know where they aren't.

    • @senbontorii2680
      @senbontorii2680 Před rokem +175

      By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.

    • @adamcetinkent
      @adamcetinkent Před rokem +67

      Self-identity hadn't been invented yet.

    • @RampantFury925
      @RampantFury925 Před rokem +206

      Missiles are based
      -Sun Tzu....probably

  • @Isaacqhz
    @Isaacqhz Před 10 měsíci +744

    USA: Places nukes pointed at USSR
    USSR: Places nukes pointed at USA
    USA: *Panics*

    • @kevonedon6872
      @kevonedon6872 Před 10 měsíci +63

      Lol exactly bullies

    • @deprogramm
      @deprogramm Před 9 měsíci +10

      They were only in turkey because before Russia had aimed and caused the euro missle crisis

    • @brieflyPlay
      @brieflyPlay Před 4 měsíci +34

      @@deprogramm LOL

    • @user-ou9qd9no5n
      @user-ou9qd9no5n Před 3 měsíci +7

      You're forgot what USSR say what don't send missiles to Cuba. USA get missiles officially, USSR as always lies about it.

    • @meretricioussimp7759
      @meretricioussimp7759 Před 2 měsíci +19

      @@deprogrammhow dair they place missilesc in their home country

  • @guntherdergarstigeganter6431

    That always bugged me about my history class. Our teacher told us something along the lines of: "The USSR tried to station nukes in Cuba and thereby risked escalating the cold war to a nuclear armageddon. In order to deescalate the US agreed to withdraw its' missiles from Turkey"
    Which, you know, kinda weird not to mention that the nukes in Turkey were there first?
    Edit: Seems the cold war continues in the replies to this comment :)

    • @dont_drop_the_cat
      @dont_drop_the_cat Před rokem +238

      I think you could argue that there were already nuclear weaponry in European countries, so stationing them in turkey didn't threaten the ussr more than nukes in the UK or France did. On the other hand Cuba is much more close to the US then the ussr was before

    • @fasillimerick7394
      @fasillimerick7394 Před rokem +785

      To borrow from another series of animated history shorts: "because that's not how 'victim mentality' works".

    • @SovietYugoslav
      @SovietYugoslav Před rokem +1

      Nazi US history classes love to favor the capitalist fasicst system over the rightful socialist state. It would look bad if the us were the aggressors. Which in every Cold War scenario, they were. They prompted dictatorships everywhere while the USSR was on its backfoot

    • @smilingearth5181
      @smilingearth5181 Před rokem +221

      Because that would make America look bad. You probably also weren't told we knew where most of the USSR's ground-based silos were.

    • @Random-ob7dc
      @Random-ob7dc Před rokem +79

      @@smilingearth5181 That's not it. Turkey was a member of USA's nuclear program (and still is) which allows USA to station nukes there by request of the government in turkey. Most NATO countries did that, nothing out of the ordinary for cold war europe

  • @andredias5284
    @andredias5284 Před rokem +2989

    Placing missiles in Cuba was their reaction to the US placing missiles in Turkey and Italy. Kruschev says in his memoirs that they were impressed and scared by how the US panicked due to the cuban situation. To the soviets, the US placed nukes around the USSR; so, the USSR would place nukes around the US. This was just assuring the ballance of power, which was far from being a new concept back then. The US almost invaded Cuba, which would have been a very agressive and messy movement, as it could have easily gone wrong in so many ways.

    • @danielkjm
      @danielkjm Před rokem

      Not almost invaded, they did invade, but it end up in disaster for USA

    • @Hypogean7
      @Hypogean7 Před rokem

      If the USA didn't respond as they did, then that would politically kill the Kennedy administration, and could've fragmented NATO.

    • @Hypogean7
      @Hypogean7 Před rokem

      @TheHighwayman Just like with Hong Kong, China's government wants absolute control over its territory, and for decades China has considered Taiwan part of its territory. The only thing that stopped China decades ago was that most of their fleet was controlled by the Nationalists that fled to Taiwan. Ever since they fully modernized they've been cranking up the pressure, and only American guarantees stop them from actually trying something.

    • @naoyanaraharjo4693
      @naoyanaraharjo4693 Před rokem

      ​@TheHighwayman screw you, just because Taiwan has peaceful connection with PRC. Doesnt mean PRC will do nothing to Taiwan
      Damn PRC also claims SCS islands. Even protesting Indonesia drilling oil in Natuna. PRC also sent fishing boats guarded by PRC coast guard to ilegally fish in non PRC water
      Are we SEA nations just an ant in your eyes? An acceptable casualty to jack off to the thought the US is always bad?

    • @fludblud
      @fludblud Před rokem +347

      The simple difference was that the Soviets could control public opinion while the Americans were held accountable by it. If the American public did not like the idea that nukes were in Cuba the Kennedy Administration was obliged to do whatever it took to get rid of them even if it was a fair and rational response to the missiles in Turkey. The idea of not being able to control the narrative by jailing dissidents and journalists was terrifying to the Soviets.
      Even now the concept of public accountability is a major stumbling block in international relations with totalitarian regimes like China. Despite funding billions into outreach programmes Chinese diplomats just cannot handle being asked unscripted questions by journalists who can simply fact check the responses and ask why are they lying.

  • @ChristopherTyson-be1fy
    @ChristopherTyson-be1fy Před rokem +4219

    Fun fact:
    The US and USSR avoided nuclear war due to the skilful diplomacy of James Bissonette

  • @shubhanjalshukla3879
    @shubhanjalshukla3879 Před rokem +952

    All I can imagine is Turkey sitting in the corner with a smoothie as the US and the USSR argue whilst Cuba is just like 'Can I have a smoothie too?'

    • @berkdikmen95
      @berkdikmen95 Před rokem +183

      Turkish people didn't even know there were nukes in Turkey. The government simply agreed to deploy nukes in Turkish soil and didn't bother to let people know.

    • @erhan28
      @erhan28 Před rokem +91

      The government of turkey was overthrown in 1960 and a military junta in effect. Hence people not in the military didn't know.

    • @graceneilitz7661
      @graceneilitz7661 Před rokem +21

      @@berkdikmen95 I think there still is American nukes in Turkey.

    • @TIME12308
      @TIME12308 Před rokem +21

      No not a smoothie..
      Something more crunchy like popcorn

    • @Ttegegg
      @Ttegegg Před rokem +14

      @@TIME12308 buttered popcorn

  • @mjjoe76
    @mjjoe76 Před rokem +3092

    Potentially underrated factor was that USSR leaders came to realize the Cuban leadership was way too eager to attack the US, and the Soviet Union was alarmed at their enthusiasm.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem +223

      That was something Khrushchev really should have considered.
      His whole plan was very much a "bright idea".

    • @user-fb7ym2fk5h
      @user-fb7ym2fk5h Před rokem +266

      Ah yes! Remember when Cuba invaded US in the Bay of Pigs.

    • @Hypogean7
      @Hypogean7 Před rokem +614

      ​@@user-fb7ym2fk5h Castro and Guevara were more than willing to start WW3 if it meant the end of the USA. The USSR didn't want to start WW3

    • @PANZERFAUST90
      @PANZERFAUST90 Před rokem +1

      ​@@Hypogean7 Yeah they didn't give a fuck because they would be in another part of the world while the bombs destroyed their own country. They couldn't care any less about their people if it meant that the US was blown to ashes and they were both safe somewhere where the fallout couldn't harm them.
      yay, communism

    • @moralfag9454
      @moralfag9454 Před rokem +33

      ​@johnwilliamson3752 вторжение - это помощь местному правительству? США вторгались в Украину?😊😊😊

  • @ttt2080
    @ttt2080 Před rokem +477

    Also, another reason that the Americans agreed to remove the missiles from Turkey was that the first Inter-continental ballistic missile submarines had been developed (The first American ICBM submarine, the USS George Washington completed its first cruise in January 1961). This meant that the missiles in Turkey were now not that strategically important, since the Americans would soon have submarine fleets capable of launching missiles in every ocean around the USSR.

    • @TheFirefox
      @TheFirefox Před rokem +27

      Very important point the video didn’t mention. The missiles in Turkey were largely redundant at that point.

    • @Shaykh-Waleed-White
      @Shaykh-Waleed-White Před rokem +1

      So Turkey just let US missles be placed inside them?

    • @FuadAlvi
      @FuadAlvi Před rokem

      @@Shaykh-Waleed-WhiteTurkey is a NATO puppet, what do you expect?

    • @AntonioDal.
      @AntonioDal. Před rokem +21

      Such submarines did indeed make static nuclear launch sites less important, however due to Turkey’s extremely strategic location (soft belly of USSR, Iraq, Syria and Iran) it still is a headache for modern Russia.
      The black sea also cant be legally entered by any non Turkish navy since a year because of the Ukrainian war.

    • @Celme44
      @Celme44 Před rokem +1

      @@Shaykh-Waleed-White why not lol. we still got 99 b61 nukes ''nato share''

  • @augustvonmackensen3902
    @augustvonmackensen3902 Před rokem +539

    Video suggestion: Why is Valga divided? A video about the history of the border between Latvia and Estonia. As a Brit, I was astonished to find out that, somehow, this one was us too, despite Britain never really having too much to do with north eastern Europe.

    • @andrzejnadgirl2029
      @andrzejnadgirl2029 Před rokem +42

      Well, splitting some cities after WW1 when ethno-states arised and population split was problematic to do it cleanly isn't that rare. There was similar case between Poland and Czechoslovakia.
      And the referendums to set the borders were absolute mess with everyone cheating as much as they could.

    • @littlebrit
      @littlebrit Před rokem +23

      Yeah, there was a British guy living for some time in Valka. So, he took part in the commission. Latvian side didn't demand much, so they basically gifted their town to Estonia. Moral of the story: if you don't properly declare your demands, you will not receive much.

    • @scaper12123
      @scaper12123 Před rokem +4

      You'd think it would have been Napoleon

    • @igorsmihailovs52
      @igorsmihailovs52 Před rokem +21

      You don't forget that Latvian government was in debt of honour to Estonia for their help with getting rid of both Bolsheviks and German Landeswehr. In the school this was usually mentioned as the reason for this partition when I was studying there (2005--2009)

    • @igorsmihailovs52
      @igorsmihailovs52 Před rokem +1

      And also for them hosting the "North Latvian Army" led by Col. J. Zemitāns.

  • @19MAD95
    @19MAD95 Před rokem +37

    I love this channel because of all the Easter eggs. 0:50 they painted red stripes to go faster. Love that 40k reference

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem +1

      What's that?

    • @RipRLeeErmey
      @RipRLeeErmey Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@maazkalim To do the lame thing and explain the joke:
      In the Warhammer 40K universe, there is a race called the Orkz. Whatever they believe becomes reality if they believe in it hard enough; and all of them believe that painting something red will make it go faster... and because they believe that, it's made true, and objects that are painted red and piloted by Orkz can go at ludicrous speeds they otherwise should not be able to.

  • @iamjohnfarlow
    @iamjohnfarlow Před rokem +52

    I love the added detail of a flash outside Khrushchev's window

  • @ArthurCSchaperMR
    @ArthurCSchaperMR Před rokem +296

    Please do videos on the following subjects:
    1. Why did the People's Revolution of 1848 fail in the Gernanies and Spain?
    2. Why do people drive on different sides of the road in different countries?

    • @adamcetinkent
      @adamcetinkent Před rokem +24

      Fun fact: same reason!

    • @lmaousack2993
      @lmaousack2993 Před rokem +5

      @@adamcetinkent huh? wait how

    • @sybrandwoudstra9236
      @sybrandwoudstra9236 Před rokem +43

      @@lmaousack2993 Some former French artillery leutenant called Napoleon Bonaparte.

    • @occamraiser
      @occamraiser Před rokem +9

      2) because everyone is too stubborn to just do it correctly like the English do.

    • @amckittrick7951
      @amckittrick7951 Před rokem +3

      ​@@sybrandwoudstra9236napoleon was dead by 1848?? Ofc napoleon the third rose to power from the 1848 French revolution

  • @corymorimacori1059
    @corymorimacori1059 Před rokem +194

    Nikita Khrushchev:You know if you just remove your missiles out of Turkey, we remove ours from Cuba.
    John F Kennedy: yeah that sounds good to me.
    Later*
    Robert McNamara: Prime minister Castro, this missile crisis has been he last straw. We almost blew ourselves up! Now we invited you here in good faith to sort this thing out

    • @georgeamesfort3408
      @georgeamesfort3408 Před rokem +33

      And the world breathed one gigantic sigh of relief, except for one guy, who was bloody livid

    • @Mikebumpful
      @Mikebumpful Před rokem +12

      That's a quote from Oversimplified, right?

    • @hafizhhadiawan4507
      @hafizhhadiawan4507 Před rokem +23

      Phew let's hope that's the biggest crisis of my presidency

    • @ChristopherTyson-be1fy
      @ChristopherTyson-be1fy Před rokem +4

      @@hafizhhadiawan4507 His presidency was to end with one…

    • @sodadrinker89
      @sodadrinker89 Před rokem +29

      COD Black Ops Zombie mode.

  • @iordachevictor6029
    @iordachevictor6029 Před rokem +374

    Video Idea: Why was Khrushchev removed from power? Most of the answers will say it's because of the Cuban Missile Crisis, but after seeing this video, it seems that "USSR had more in 1962, than it did in 1960", so I think it's a pretty interesting and complex question.

    • @MC-yt1uv
      @MC-yt1uv Před rokem +145

      In politics, perception is more important than reality. Someone will get way more support for looking successful than quietly being successful. Even though the USSR benefitted it still looked like Khrushchev got pushed around by the Americans so he lost support.

    • @icecold1805
      @icecold1805 Před rokem +72

      The key issue for Kruschev, was that the USSR censored the news about the missiles in turkey, while the americans cried to the winds about the missiles in turkey. In the end, from the soviet point of view, it seemed as if the USSR had backed down and got nothing in return.
      Or in other words: many times winning and crying is the best strategy.

    • @000anon
      @000anon Před rokem

      The Cuban Missle Crisis result looked like the USSR backing down internationally. Ask anyone today about the crisis and hardly anyone will know about the removal of missiles from Turkey.

    • @cabellones
      @cabellones Před rokem +25

      @@icecold1805 yeah but is far more complex than that, Kruschev had a lot of opposition for more hardliners and he even did try a early perestroika, it backfired by KGB interference, he had major support of zhukov, but Kruschev mislead the man and ended without him, his position was weak and stable trying to succeed Stalin.
      There was also the Fallout with china... Little nicky try it's best but was unsuccessful in the end in trying to modernize URSS and avoid the stagnation.

    • @wesleyfravel5149
      @wesleyfravel5149 Před rokem

      It's important to note, the Turkey missiles were removed secretly 6 months later. It looked like Khrushchev had just gotten the guarantee from the US on Cuba, and that was purposeful. JFK wanted to remove the nukes from Turkey, but he couldn't be seen as abandoning them to save the US or he would have been sunk politically. So to everyone else, Khrushchev basically folded.

  • @RexCrimson_
    @RexCrimson_ Před rokem +84

    1:19 Cyprus is now rightful Austrian clay.

  • @prim16
    @prim16 Před rokem +1355

    It's always irked me how this aspect of history was taught here. The US stationing missiles on the Soviets' doorstep was clearly provoking a similar response. In my American history classes, they conveniently glossed over the stationing of nukes in Turkey, and focused instead on the "Soviet provocation". Because clearly, we have to omit details to make ourselves look like the good guys...

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 Před rokem

      Easy; US was in a position of power and yet didn't abuse it. USSR in contrast abuses it relentlessly; so by default they're the bad guys. Or something like that.

    • @DarkwarriorJ
      @DarkwarriorJ Před rokem +292

      A lot of US history and actions are taught in this way; it's the most common spin in western history. That said, once you start asking the other side for their own history, you'll find that they have their own spins (some rather silly and obvious, like North Korea's :p)

    • @LHSMeleeClub
      @LHSMeleeClub Před rokem +118

      this is why the internet educating the new generation will be monumental in the worlds development imho. the internet literally created a dawning of a new age for information sharing .___.' for better or for worse but im hoping its overall for the better

    • @stephenjenkins7971
      @stephenjenkins7971 Před rokem +2

      @@LHSMeleeClub No it won't. Only Westerners bother doing this thing; most stick with their national narrative and justify their brutality and imperialism.

    • @thehussiteking
      @thehussiteking Před rokem +67

      Oh yeah because the Soviets were so much better than the Americans. 🙄

  • @Kalah_
    @Kalah_ Před rokem +139

    As Sergej Khrushchev (Nikita's son) said it, those missiles just replaced other threats that the Russians were used to have on their doorstep; French armies or Turkish armies... It wasn't such a big shock to them as having missiles on Cuba was to the Americans.

    • @pakboimsal8498
      @pakboimsal8498 Před rokem +8

      Or German armies

    • @lewakar
      @lewakar Před rokem

      joke on you, your name is Kalah

    • @Kalah_
      @Kalah_ Před rokem +1

      @@lewakar I don't get it.

    • @pdruiz2005
      @pdruiz2005 Před rokem +26

      Yep, sounds about right. The Soviets were long used to having powerful neighbors ready to invade their nation. Hell, that happened when they were also the Russian Empire. To the officials in Moscow the movement of missiles to Turkey just seemed normal. But the Americans had long been used to "splendid isolation," surrounded by weak neighbors they could easily bully around. A powerful nation placing their nukes right next door was too much and they freaked the f*ck out, almost dragging the world into nuclear armageddon. The Soviet miscalculation was in believing the Americans thought exactly like the Soviets with regards to national threats.

    • @1994mrmysteryman
      @1994mrmysteryman Před rokem

      ​@@pdruiz2005Lmao. The Russians drifting in tanks, wrestling bears, living in - 60 temperatures and casually prepared for armageddon, wondering what all the fuss is about.

  • @prettypuff1
    @prettypuff1 Před rokem +69

    Of all the history channels on CZcams, this one is the best.
    Consistent hilarious history

  • @duchevet
    @duchevet Před rokem +62

    Funny theory my history teacher brought up back in the day, but the USSR might very well have voluntarily let the americans spot the missiles by placing them on the boats' decks rather than inside said boats (which is verifiable given the missiles were spotted by spy airplanes), specifically in order to get those turkish missiles removed by essentially blackmailing the USA. They didn't plan to actually attack the USA, hence their "let's not do that" reaction to Cuba's enthuisasm at the prospect. In that sense, the USSR was the true winner of the Cuban missile crisis, being the only nation that actually got anything from it.

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 Před 3 měsíci +1

      But But But it makes John F Kennedy look weak! We can't have that!

    • @armyboy0579
      @armyboy0579 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I'm sorry which country was threatening nuclear Armageddon if the missiles weren't removed from Cuban soil in a matter of days?

    • @mdsaad9805
      @mdsaad9805 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@richardthomas5362Cia got him tho

  • @warmstrong5612
    @warmstrong5612 Před rokem +15

    You ask every time if we enjoyed this episode, dude we enjoy EVERY episode.

  • @jamesbissonette8002
    @jamesbissonette8002 Před rokem +42

    I love this channel!

  • @Nimish204
    @Nimish204 Před rokem +11

    1:20 I love how Cyprus is now a part of Austria

  • @nomic655
    @nomic655 Před rokem +241

    Think about it. If the USSR was to call out the US for putting missiles in Turkey, they would only really scare people without having a legitimate strategic response. But when the US did the opposite, they already had their missiles in Turkey, so it's not like if Moscow said "no" Washington couldn't transport their own missiles closer to be on the same level.

  • @itzadam9359
    @itzadam9359 Před rokem +410

    Video idea as a loyal Patreon supporter. Why was Finland 🇫🇮 given autonomy in the Russian Empire ?

    • @formalist6096
      @formalist6096 Před rokem

      Bro stfu ur always making the same comment.

    • @luket.9113
      @luket.9113 Před rokem +36

      That would be nice. To me, Finland is one of the countries in Europe whose history should be explained more often.

    • @Ile-17
      @Ile-17 Před rokem +70

      1. No russians there 2. Didn't want the headache rioting Finn's would cause if they would be suppressed 3. Large Swedish pop and their own language 4. The fact that their "government" worked and they were relatively ok with the Russian overloads.

    • @MimOzanTamamogullar
      @MimOzanTamamogullar Před rokem +32

      If I recall correctly, the Russians took Finland from Sweden. That means that the Finns were mostly fine with autonomy and thus didn't really try to separate. If they tried to govern Finland directly, there would be resistence.

    • @tomasbeltran04050
      @tomasbeltran04050 Před rokem +7

      A comment isn't ðe best way to communicate your suggestion ðo

  • @stormsand9
    @stormsand9 Před rokem +9

    1:47 "but we can hide in the Urals so we'll be fine" kek

  • @carlbates9110
    @carlbates9110 Před rokem +158

    It should be noted that while the video shows the Cubans happy about war being avoided, they weren’t. Castro and Guevara both wanted and pushed for WWIII during the crisis, and thought the Soviets were cowards for making a deal.

    • @mjjoe76
      @mjjoe76 Před rokem

      Apparently Castro and Guevara were almost eager for a fiery death for the glory of communism, but Soviet leaders were far more pragmatic.

    • @writerconsidered
      @writerconsidered Před rokem +14

      No. they were suicidal idiots for not knowing what would happen to Cuba. They could literally wipe out the entire Island and not leave a living soul alive. Castro himself would have been dead and his Island with him. The Cuban people were probably relieved.

    • @kingdedede333
      @kingdedede333 Před rokem +22

      That's a weird interpretation of it lol. Castro was willing to use nukes in case of another US invasion of Cuba. Khrushchev was on board with this, as preventing another US invasion was the reason the Soviets sent nuclear weapons to Cuba in the first place.

    • @carlbates9110
      @carlbates9110 Před rokem +25

      @@kingdedede333 Castro publicly expressed outrage when the Soviets came to a deal with the United States. They absolutely wanted a war over giving up the nukes.

    • @Banjomike97
      @Banjomike97 Před rokem

      This is only partially true. They did not want WW3. Yes they felt betrayed by the Soviets because they were sure without the Nukes the US was going to invade them. The nukes in Cuba were never meant for attack.

  • @lillyie
    @lillyie Před rokem +405

    us: places missiles near turkey to try and hit the ussr
    ussr: places missile near cuba to try and hit the usa
    us: NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT

    • @shakebraza196
      @shakebraza196 Před rokem +99

      True Hypocrisy

    • @John.McMillan
      @John.McMillan Před rokem +129

      Summs up American foreign diplomacy perfectly. Just look at Ukraine lmao

    • @amckittrick7951
      @amckittrick7951 Před rokem +46

      ​@John.Mcmillan say you don't know American foreign policy without saying you don't know American policy

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer Před rokem +16

      are you unironically supporting the Soviet union in this

    • @user-rl8hf8kt1r
      @user-rl8hf8kt1r Před rokem +87

      ​@@siyacer why not.....they stopped neaclear war and saved Cuba from tearning into Vietnam with just diplomatic efforts

  • @Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm

    I very appreciate the constantly improving quality, like that first page of Pravda fully filled with text at 1:45. "All expenses paid happy camp" is definitely one way to put it 😅

  • @minigamerguy1232
    @minigamerguy1232 Před rokem +21

    0:44 soviet technology has gone too far, they can censor glass now

  • @Aggie1295
    @Aggie1295 Před rokem +15

    I suspect on the US side, the general view of the US having a sphere of influence in the Americas dating back to the Monroe Doctrine coupled with the American feeling that there are oceans between us and our enemies, made the idea of missles being 90 miles away as being unacceptable. However, Russia and Turkey have been getting into it for centuries, so a potential threat in Turkey was nothing new. My understanding is that the US and Nato viewed a nuclear deterent as necessary because Soviet conventional forces were so much larger. I've read that the Soviet army's ability to overwhelm Nazi Germany by shear numbers created an intimidating factor in the West. The American forces in Western Europe were a tripwire for a Soviet invasion, just meant to buy time. I do recall reading a news story back in the 80s that stated the Soviets had huge numbers when reserves were factored in. Looking at it today, its worth questioning how effective the Soviets would have been. The Falklands and the Gulf War demonstrated how much a difference a highly trained professional military with cutting edge technology can be.

    • @armyboy0579
      @armyboy0579 Před 2 měsíci

      It sounds like the west or a bunch of sore losers that resort to nuclear weapons because they can't win conventionally.
      The West vaporized two Japanese cities as a message telling Stalin to fuck off. only for Stalin to have the rational response of "I want those toys too"

  • @quuaaarrrk8056
    @quuaaarrrk8056 Před rokem +329

    "Why wasn’t there a Turkish Missile Crisis?"
    Because having two crises with a 50% chance of nuclear war each is supposedly unhealthy.

    • @elephantman6117
      @elephantman6117 Před rokem +55

      SpongeBob: Barnacles! What could be worse than a missile crisis?!
      Patrick: Oh, I know! *Blows Bubble* Two missile crisis's!
      SpongeBob: NOOOOOOOO!!

    • @lukasschmitz7231
      @lukasschmitz7231 Před rokem +8

      looking back at the cold war era, i really do believe that both the ussr and the usa were ruled by spongebobs and patricks

    • @pedronabais1456
      @pedronabais1456 Před rokem +4

      @@lukasschmitz7231 why? i mean arm races have existed since the half monkey humans learned to put rocks on their sticks... the cold war was like any other arm races, but because it was the never weapons people got more scared (as always)

    • @quuaaarrrk8056
      @quuaaarrrk8056 Před rokem

      @@lukasschmitz7231 Seems to be a long tradition of great powers. But yes, they definitely were.

    • @encycl07pedia-
      @encycl07pedia- Před 5 měsíci

      @@elephantman6117 crises*
      Learn English.

  • @FrankM
    @FrankM Před rokem +20

    1:11 "Brand new, not shot, President John F. Kennedy". Too soon.

  • @sharption7405
    @sharption7405 Před rokem +3

    Love your videos and artstyle

  • @cgt3704
    @cgt3704 Před rokem +12

    0:36 this image taken out of context could start a war in the comment section

  • @Agamon
    @Agamon Před rokem +1

    Awesome as always!

  • @davidwhite533
    @davidwhite533 Před rokem +46

    The Soviets also knew that the Atlases stationed in Turkey (by Eisenhower) were scheduled for planned obsolescence by '65 already, and were not nearly the threat that B-52s were (even before cruise missiles).
    Fun fact (admitted years later by... I think Andrei Gromyko?): the Soviets had both strategic (missile-based) and tactical (bomb) nukes in Cuba. Khrushschev made a big deal about no longer stationing those, but never said a mumbling word about the bombs. And he may have done this as an ace-in-the-hole However, when advised that the Americans would go to war if they found out about them later on, he tried to call them back -only to have Castro inform him that he considered them ‘gifts’ and would not, in fact, relinquish control. There was some delicate diplomacy to get them out. Between that, and the revelation to the Politburo during the actual crisis that the Soviet ground commander had been given independent launch authority directly by Khurshchev WITHOUT informing the rest of the military… well, Khrushchev was a bit of a loose cannon, and there were reasons he was removed from power.

  • @trollman1296
    @trollman1296 Před rokem +122

    TLDR: The USSR knew and got used to it and used it as a leverage to remove the Turkish Missiles for in exchange for the Cuban Missiles

    • @adamcetinkent
      @adamcetinkent Před rokem +40

      It's only a three-and-a-half minute video, mate. TLDR seems a bit extreme.

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T Před rokem +21

      @@adamcetinkent Attention spans don't exist in today's world.

  • @jasonquigley2633
    @jasonquigley2633 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I think an important unexplored factor here is the role of Turkey (and Cuba) in all this. Part of the reason the USA stationed nukes in Turkey, I'm assuming is that the Turks wanted it, and without the American Nukes as a "shield" would have instead developed their own nuclear weapons. Stationing American nuclear weapons in such countries is a method by the USA to prevent nuclear proliferation and maintain good relations with countries under their umbrella. The same is true of Japan, which is perfectly capable of also creating their own nuclear weapons, but because of the American nuclear umbrella do not feel the need to.
    In discussing the cold war, it's important to realise that there wasn't just two players, the USA and USSR, but that all the other countries in their respective blocs were also pursuing their own interests (though far less so on communist side, as most of the regimes were de facto soviet puppets, with the notable exceptions of Yugoslavia, Albania, China, Cuba and Vietnam)

    • @islammehmeov2334
      @islammehmeov2334 Před 6 měsíci +3

      In fact there are 50 NUCLEAR BOMS in TURKIYE withc AMERICA is holding in INCIRLIK and if AMERICA try to take them then TURKS will make there own NUCLEAR WEAPONS so this is way AMERICA still have NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN INCIRLIK

  • @intuitivme
    @intuitivme Před rokem

    I love the animations you use!!!!

  • @man49231
    @man49231 Před rokem

    Thank you for clearing this up !!!

  • @Jotari
    @Jotari Před rokem +6

    Way I've always looked at it is that the Cuban Missile Crisis was the Turkish Missile Crisis.

  • @dustinprewitt
    @dustinprewitt Před rokem +5

    My high school US history teacher couldn't answer this when I asked the same question. Thanks for posting!

    • @richardthomas5362
      @richardthomas5362 Před 3 měsíci

      Your high school history teacher probably thought President John F Kennedy was a great man. Answering that question would end up making him look weak.

  • @paulkurilecz4209
    @paulkurilecz4209 Před rokem

    I very much enjoy the topics that you present.

  • @eacalvert
    @eacalvert Před rokem +2

    Amazing as always and pausing to read the newspaper always bringns me joy.

    • @barakato
      @barakato Před rokem +1

      Fuck i didn't notice them all these years.

  • @8thFurno
    @8thFurno Před rokem +3

    History Matters: Answering the questions that I never thought to ask.

  • @YourVintageStick
    @YourVintageStick Před rokem +4

    Both sides bickering over where they should be able to put their toys

  • @ianmetcalfe7389
    @ianmetcalfe7389 Před rokem +2

    As always excellent

  • @DanWatchesYoutub1000
    @DanWatchesYoutub1000 Před rokem

    Always so informative.

  • @WaterShowsProd
    @WaterShowsProd Před rokem +83

    This is a question I've been asking for 35 years, and I have successfully annoyed people by calling The Cuban Missile Crisis "The Turkish Missile Crisis" and equating it to The U.S. being terrified of an even playing field. In fact, I'm going to continue doing that because this video essentially supports that analogy.

    • @juanchololgamex8653
      @juanchololgamex8653 Před rokem +11

      Never was an even playing field, supposedly while the US had reliable long-range ICBM’s, Soviet Union didn’t and Soviet missiles took helluva long time to launch

    • @BorderLanderr
      @BorderLanderr Před rokem

      Because the USSR was no better than Germany had been just a few years earlier. They murdered tens of millions of people and invaded everyone around them who wasn't allied with the US and/or UK.
      IDK why people seem to think there is some sort of virtue to agreeing to be equal to your enemy, instead of trying to overcome them without having to nuke the world.

    • @Tundrawrath
      @Tundrawrath Před rokem

      ​@@juanchololgamex8653still an ICBM is kinda big deal

    • @juanchololgamex8653
      @juanchololgamex8653 Před rokem

      @@Tundrawrath True, but they weren't nearly as good or reliable as the US'

    • @User-he6zd
      @User-he6zd Před rokem

      I'm sure you don't wonder why Turkey and Eastern Europe would push so hard for stronger US security guarantees and missile and base placements. Definitely not because the USSR had carved up and ruled parts of Europe with an iron fist and pointed their own nukes at the rest.
      This is why the USSR crumbled and overall lost the Cold War. Failure to learn that lesson is why Socialists will continue to lose

  • @the_fixer2593
    @the_fixer2593 Před rokem +42

    Great video as always.
    "Why is the DelMarVa peninsula split between three states?" Would be a good video next I think.

  • @sceema333
    @sceema333 Před rokem +1

    im reading more news papers in these videos than actual news papers, because yours are just legendary

  • @chrislj2890
    @chrislj2890 Před rokem +2

    2:30 "Oh lawd they comin'." This guy kills me!

  • @Emir-ny5iq
    @Emir-ny5iq Před rokem +11

    when you're located so near to the middle east everyday feels like a crisis.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Před rokem +268

    The problem was that the whole thing made Khrushchev look weak which was why he was deposed soon afterward.
    There was a plan to leave the battlefield nuclear missiles for the Cubans but when the Russians realised that Castro was bat crap crazy and that if they left them there Castro would use them they quietly shipped them back to Russia.

    • @Darkfawfulx
      @Darkfawfulx Před rokem +14

      Seemed like he did the tight thing here though.

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem

      ​@@Darkfawfulx
      He did the right thing in the end, after a couple of years doing the wrong thing.
      He was very foolish to treat JFK as a young whippersnapper he could bully.

    • @thecuddlyaddict
      @thecuddlyaddict Před rokem +42

      Castro was absolutely not crazy. The US had invaded like a year prior and had tried to kill him multiple times. He also did not desire nuclear or conventional war with the USA, as a small island nation directly adjacent to the worlds foremost military, nuclear and economic power would surely beat the snot out of Cuba. Do people even think when they make statements like these? Like what on earth would Cuba stand to gain from war with their superpower neighbour?

    • @User-he6zd
      @User-he6zd Před rokem +62

      ​​@@thecuddlyaddict He berated the Soviets for making a deal and continuously called for war against "imperialist powers" lol

    • @deamon002
      @deamon002 Před rokem +83

      @@thecuddlyaddict From Wikipedia: "A few weeks after the crisis, during an interview with the British communist newspaper the Daily Worker, Guevara was still fuming over the perceived Soviet betrayal and told correspondent Sam Russell that, if the missiles had been under Cuban control, they would have fired them off.[184] While expounding on the incident later, Guevara reiterated that the cause of socialist liberation against global "imperialist aggression" would ultimately have been worth the possibility of "millions of atomic war victims"."
      So by their own words, yes, they were zealous nutjobs ready to start WWIII.

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639

    Another amazing video

  • @ooglyboogly6258
    @ooglyboogly6258 Před rokem +1

    Super good! I miss the longer videos tho ;-;

  • @TheSayk
    @TheSayk Před rokem +58

    The Russians used Cuba to get the missiles removed from Turkey, but in the process there was almost a nuclear war. For those that don't know, there was a Russian submarine with nuclear missiles on standby in case the Americans sank the ship which was carrying the nuclear missiles that was going to Cuba. For some reason communication was caught off between the Russian submarine and the Russian command center and people in the submarine thought that WW3 had started and were debating if they should deploy their nuclear warhead. Usually, for such a decision there are 2 people responsible and both would have to agree in order to deploy the nuke. That day, both people responsible for the deployment of the nuke were in favor of deploying it, thinking that WW3 had already started. Fortunately, that day there was a high ranking official that happened to be in the submarine and the decision for the deployment of the nuke also fell onto him and all 3 of them would have to agree. If it wasn't for that high ranking official that HAPPENED to be in the submarine that day, the submarine would have fired the nuke and would have started WW3.

    • @gimmethegepgun
      @gimmethegepgun Před rokem +7

      Also that submarine in question underwent what appeared to the crew to be depth charge attacks against it. They weren't, they were training charges being used as a warning or whatever, but they had no way to know that.

    • @killer3000ad
      @killer3000ad Před rokem +13

      Comms between the sub and the Soviet command was cut because the US Navy was chasing it and hammering it with training depth charges. These weren't enough to sink the sub but enough to keep rattling the crew. The sub desperately needed to resurface to recharge it's batteries but doing so would expose them to the US surface fleet. As carbon dioxide built up in the sub, the submarine captain became increasingly unstable and believed nuclear war had already broken out and wanted to fire the nukes. Saner heads amongst the officers prevailed and in the end the submarine gave up and surfaced and was then escorted out of the area by the US Navy.

    • @davidharris453
      @davidharris453 Před rokem

      The entire world's destruction was risked that day in a game of brinksmanship punctuated by a destroyer depth charging a Russian submarine, an act of war, that was carrying nuclear tipped torpedoes carried for the specific purpose of destroying the fleet that was attacking it......and we somehow have fashioned this into the Americans being the sane good guys.....hmmm?!!!

    • @vladof_putler
      @vladof_putler Před rokem +2

      Vasily Arkhipov 🔥🔥🔥

    • @mrchangcooler
      @mrchangcooler Před rokem +3

      If there was nuclear war from it, the US would have been the ones to start it. The nukes in cuba were defensive, and it was the US that was willing to lash out for it. The US wouldve started WW3, not the USSR. This was an aggressive initiative by the US.

  • @qy9MC
    @qy9MC Před rokem +5

    Such a lost opportunity for Italy to change sides as a prank.

  • @julian0murray
    @julian0murray Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @nik65stgt60
    @nik65stgt60 Před rokem

    Great content!

  • @IDanielGarrido
    @IDanielGarrido Před rokem +65

    "why was spain never able to annex portugal permanently?" please make this

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 Před rokem +17

      Mostly because of the English/British.

    • @kensho6263
      @kensho6263 Před rokem +2

      I think spain having all the other parts of the country under control is the fascinating thing

    • @andrzejnadgirl2029
      @andrzejnadgirl2029 Před rokem +11

      @@secretname4190 overstate or not, their alliance was quite critical for keeping Portugal independent as forming Spain meant that kings had serious aspirations towards taking Portugal.
      And Spain and UK were competing colonial powers so checking Spain in control just made a lot of sense.

    • @IDanielGarrido
      @IDanielGarrido Před rokem +4

      @@Toonrick12 The english helped us a lot and we still take our alliance seriously :P but we also had a brilliant tactician called Nuno Álvares Pereira who was undefeated while all his battles were won outnumbered often 1 to 5 or more, i think it would make an interesting video

    • @pedronabais1456
      @pedronabais1456 Před rokem

      mostly because of theultiple indepencence wars that made it too costly to annex...
      also after a few problems during the rise of portugal the portuguese court started getting more hostile towards castillian influence in the court

  • @bobbobby3085
    @bobbobby3085 Před rokem +42

    You would’ve thought the Soviet Union would jump at the chance to invade turkey for the billionth time

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 Před rokem +9

      Nah, they had enough birds after 1917.

    • @stc3145
      @stc3145 Před rokem +1

      They should have so we would not have to have them as the leech they are in nato

    • @alanpennie8013
      @alanpennie8013 Před rokem +15

      ​@@Toonrick12
      The USSR had negotiated a pretty sweet deal about The Straits in 1936 and had no real beef with Turkey.
      It's true Stalin did make some aggressive noises in the 1940s, and as a result Turkey joined NATO in 1952.

    • @MugOfJoe
      @MugOfJoe Před rokem

      @@Toonrick12turkey didnt have enough yet huh

    • @dkz8394
      @dkz8394 Před rokem +3

      soviet union helped turkey be an independent country as it is, what the hell are you talking about

  • @newperson4889
    @newperson4889 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the videos man, you educate us with no agenda except just history as it happened

  • @jahenders
    @jahenders Před rokem +2

    I'm glad you made this video. Everyone knows about the Cuban Missile Crisis, but far fewer know about the shady, backroom deals and what we gave up to get those missiles out of Cuba.

  • @failuretv814
    @failuretv814 Před rokem +5

    "Brand New Not Shot President Kennedy"
    This one hits harder than the bullet

  • @babywolf3049
    @babywolf3049 Před rokem +4

    USA still has around 50 nukes (B61) in Türkiye and back in 2001 it was around 90. Right now they're at İncirlik Airbase located in Southeast Türkiye. The thing is spesific warplanes of USAF have been rejected and not allowed to land on İncirlik, which means USA can't use those nukes in need according to politic treatment. However for some reason Turkiye has special air squadron that capable of carrying nuclear weapons.

    • @armyboy0579
      @armyboy0579 Před 2 měsíci

      That's what happens when you put a Muslim extremists in charge of Turkey

  • @GenralWAV
    @GenralWAV Před rokem

    This is the earliest I've been to one of these!

  • @prakashghumaliya2002
    @prakashghumaliya2002 Před rokem

    Thank you for video sir

  • @Jacob07111
    @Jacob07111 Před rokem +55

    Could you please explain why the Federal Republic Of Central America (FRCA) dissolved?
    Counting that nowadays the people in the former territory of the federation seem pretty positive with the idea of unification, and the president of El Salvador has shown interest in the topic, why didn't the federation succeded?

    • @theotherohlourdespadua1131
      @theotherohlourdespadua1131 Před rokem +12

      Same reason why Gran Colombia didn't succeed either: geography and politics...

    • @Desmaad
      @Desmaad Před rokem +3

      @@theotherohlourdespadua1131 More detail, please?

    • @fsexplorer9727
      @fsexplorer9727 Před rokem +13

      @@Desmaad Simple answer: It would threaten US hegemony in the region.

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T Před rokem

      @@fsexplorer9727 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • @fsexplorer9727
      @fsexplorer9727 Před rokem +1

      @@ARG0T Give a point. The US has fought to remove Latin American leaders that weren't US-friendly leaders, every fucking person knows this. Look up Salvador Allende.

  • @blakebauman9654
    @blakebauman9654 Před rokem +7

    Your next video should be on what happens to embassy personnel when their countries go to war.

  • @oliversherman2414
    @oliversherman2414 Před 5 měsíci

    Interesting video 👍🏻

  • @swaminathanbalakrishnan1399
    @swaminathanbalakrishnan1399 Před 4 měsíci

    1:44 your "papers" are amazing lol

  • @tommy_clayton
    @tommy_clayton Před rokem +3

    Calling Khrushchev "Khrusha" in the newspaper was the funniest thing I've seen in ages 😅

  • @davidvasquez08
    @davidvasquez08 Před rokem +5

    1:40 NEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOW

  • @bizmen81
    @bizmen81 Před rokem

    Interesting as always! Maybe another on other countries reaction to the Cuban Missle Crisis?
    Or about Sealand?

  • @HarvestStore
    @HarvestStore Před rokem

    Great video.

  • @mukkah
    @mukkah Před 6 měsíci +3

    0:04 the reporting we don't deserve; the reporting we need

  • @plinkitee
    @plinkitee Před rokem +4

    "Not shot John F. Kennedy" made me laugh more than it should've. 😂

  • @MARPOLO13
    @MARPOLO13 Před rokem

    The explanation that the Cuban Missile Crisis was a crisis, in Cuba, involving missiles was probably the best explanation on the topic I could have ever gotten.

  • @khukri_wielderxxx1962
    @khukri_wielderxxx1962 Před rokem +2

    0:15 I love how the nukes are propped up with a stick in the ground

  • @mattdavis9601
    @mattdavis9601 Před rokem +3

    0:31 - I love the Scorpions reference here.

  • @gamerz1172
    @gamerz1172 Před rokem +11

    Honestly while people are pointing out "Lol not so much the good guys USA" I do want to point out kennedy getting ready to offer the withdrawal of missiles from turkey that he decided against the second Khruschev demanded he leave Berlin or else it would be war...... Like I didnt fully understand before this video why the Soviet leadership blamed Khruschev for the crisis, but honestly after hearing that bit I see why they did

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 Před rokem +7

      The fact people are asinine enough to make this a "good guys bad guys" thing is silly on its own. People just have agendas to push.

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem

      Well..
      That's precisely the case with the escalation of Russo-Ukraine conflict with pundits( read "experts") nowadays, so.. -​ Mr "@@johnroscoe2406".

    • @johnroscoe2406
      @johnroscoe2406 Před rokem +6

      @@maazkalim 1. That is wholly irrelevant
      2. Just say you like Putin

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem

      Okay.
      ...And?

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem

      *P.S.* So you got perfectly nothing, then?
      Alas..
      That means your "no good guy" theory even it comes to the U S of A's criminal culpability after its role becomes undeniable, only reveals your own kin-selection bias.

  • @riccarrasquilla379
    @riccarrasquilla379 Před rokem

    thanks for the information

  • @kittenkommentries5796
    @kittenkommentries5796 Před rokem +1

    0:49
    I've just noticed that the missile has a small spoiler on the end of it. Priceless.

  • @bearistotle2820
    @bearistotle2820 Před rokem +9

    Did you have the US air force paint the missiles red because "red makes things go fasta"?

  • @chill-lady-brook
    @chill-lady-brook Před rokem +10

    The USSR was happy enough to leave alone if it meant they could get Sokolov back. C’mon guys, MGS3 made this easy to understand.

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem

      “MGS3”???

    • @ihysro404
      @ihysro404 Před rokem

      @@maazkalimmetal gear solid 3

    • @maazkalim
      @maazkalim Před rokem

      Aahhh...
      The military-industrial gaming complex.
      Gotcha'!
      Thanks for chipping-in o/b/o "the OP", assuming you are not "her" one of alter-egos, "@@ihysro404".
      May you have a blissful future with good-health and all the success in your [egalitarian ]endeavours[ ahead].

    • @armyboy0579
      @armyboy0579 Před 2 měsíci

      I don't know, whatever that sokolov guy was working on must have been so important enough if they were willing to withdraw missiles from Cuba

  • @mikealphatangosierracharli9589

    I love, how the missiles are just hold up and vaguely pointed with forked sticks. ❤

  • @agbook2007
    @agbook2007 Před rokem

    2:28 made me chuckle... Carry on, General. :D

  • @KonigGustavAdolph
    @KonigGustavAdolph Před rokem +18

    "Cuban Missile Crisis" just sounds better than "Turkish Missile Crisis".

    • @sadpumpkinpie1756
      @sadpumpkinpie1756 Před rokem +8

      As a Turkish, this was one of the few things that our name wasn't mentioned within a crisis.
      ...
      So thanks History matters.

    • @adamcetinkent
      @adamcetinkent Před rokem +3

      Turkish Missile Crisis sounds much tastier!

  • @looinrims
    @looinrims Před rokem +4

    Should do a video on the 1983 war scare, less known but even more dangerous than the 1962 crisis

  • @AndersAlsDieAnderen9
    @AndersAlsDieAnderen9 Před rokem

    SO GRATEFUL for this episode, I wondered about that for a long time!

  • @mr.serperior7002
    @mr.serperior7002 Před rokem +2

    First time getting a video about something I was actually wondering

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Před rokem +8

    Despite being a net gain for the USSR, Khrushchev was seen as a weak and terrible leader by the Soviet politburo after the Cuban Missile Crisis and it effectively ended his career as Premier and ushered in Brezhnev.

  • @luket.9113
    @luket.9113 Před rokem +34

    Another video about Africa would be nice. I have a few ideas:
    1. Why did the union between Senegal and The Gambia fail?
    2. Why did Tanganyika and Zanzibar unite?
    3. Why did Sudan split into two?
    4. A video about the Algerian War of Independence
    5. Why was Haile Selassie I overthrown?

    • @thecrow9820
      @thecrow9820 Před rokem

      @johnwilliamson3752 There are no sudanese arabs, they're muslims which is a true fact and they're either sudanese or nubians, if they were arabs they would have lived under a tent taking care of goats

  • @germanicbear7677
    @germanicbear7677 Před rokem +1

    Good video

  • @AdamMounam
    @AdamMounam Před 6 měsíci

    I love short form history videos
    (It's Midnight, i have a science exam tomorrow, and I haven't studied anything)

  • @blazingangel1_
    @blazingangel1_ Před rokem +6

    This is a question I never thought about but now I'm interested. Thanks!

  • @RomeItaly-ym2es
    @RomeItaly-ym2es Před rokem +3

    Video idea.
    Why did the Taiping rebellion happen and why was it so deadly.

  • @maximus0928
    @maximus0928 Před rokem

    That what’s new part got me lol

  • @h0ckeyd
    @h0ckeyd Před 7 měsíci

    Love that "sneaky bois" line there :D